Re: 4 million suckered into getting New Labour ID cards

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Catweazel

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Mar 30, 2009, 7:56:56 AM3/30/09
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On Mar 30, 10:03 am, Ar <A...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> The New Liebour criminals have suckered 4 million people to getting an ID
> card just to get what is legally entitled to them in the first place. I
> guess those in the military are not that smart after all.

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slowly slowly cookee frog.

True Blue

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Mar 30, 2009, 11:40:27 AM3/30/09
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"Ar" <A...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> The New Liebour criminals have suckered 4 million people to getting an ID
> card just to get what is legally entitled to them in the first place. I
> guess those in the military are not that smart after all.
>
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/veterans-win-fight-for-
> smart-id-cards-1657028.html
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c27sa3
>
> "
> Four million former servicemen and women are to be given veterans' cards
> to ensure they get priority treatment for NHS healthcare and housing, and
> discounts for services such as transport.
>
> The Ministry of Defence plans to introduce the cards at the beginning of
> 2010, The Independent has learnt, in an attempt to begin repairing the
> damage done to the military covenant between nation and armed forces
> under New Labour.
>
> The launch is expected to be formally announced this autumn with the
> first veterans' cards handed to new armed forces leavers in spring next
> year, before being rolled out to the country's four million former
> service personnel.
> "

Well, I'm a former serviceman and I certainly won't be getting one. This
just reinforces Margaret Thatcher's maxim that the real divide in this
country lies between the public and private sector.

Robin Fairbairns

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Mar 30, 2009, 5:57:30 PM3/30/09
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"True Blue" <garyb...@gmail.com> writes:
>"Ar" <A...@127.0.0.1> wrote...

>> The New Liebour criminals have suckered 4 million people to getting an ID
>> card just to get what is legally entitled to them in the first place. I
>> guess those in the military are not that smart after all.
>>
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/veterans-win-fight-for-
>> smart-id-cards-1657028.html
>> or
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c27sa3
>>
>> "
>> Four million former servicemen and women are to be given veterans' cards
>> to ensure they get priority treatment for NHS healthcare and housing, and
>> discounts for services such as transport.
>>
>> The Ministry of Defence plans to introduce the cards at the beginning of
>> 2010, The Independent has learnt, in an attempt to begin repairing the
>> damage done to the military covenant between nation and armed forces
>> under New Labour.
>>
>> The launch is expected to be formally announced this autumn with the
>> first veterans' cards handed to new armed forces leavers in spring next
>> year, before being rolled out to the country's four million former
>> service personnel.
>> "
>
>Well, I'm a former serviceman and I certainly won't be getting one.

how do you know?

>This
>just reinforces Margaret Thatcher's maxim that the real divide in this
>country lies between the public and private sector.

eh? quite apart from anything else, this crowd of loonies are (unlike
even thatcher) aiming to privatise bits of the armed forces. so how
does one compare them, in this case?
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

True Blue

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Mar 31, 2009, 2:59:50 AM3/31/09
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"Robin Fairbairns" <rf...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> "True Blue" <garyb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>"Ar" <A...@127.0.0.1> wrote...
>>> The New Liebour criminals have suckered 4 million people to getting an
>>> ID
>>> card just to get what is legally entitled to them in the first place. I
>>> guess those in the military are not that smart after all.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/veterans-win-fight-for-
>>> smart-id-cards-1657028.html
>>> or
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/c27sa3
>>>
>>> "
>>> Four million former servicemen and women are to be given veterans' cards
>>> to ensure they get priority treatment for NHS healthcare and housing,
>>> and
>>> discounts for services such as transport.
>>>
>>> The Ministry of Defence plans to introduce the cards at the beginning of
>>> 2010, The Independent has learnt, in an attempt to begin repairing the
>>> damage done to the military covenant between nation and armed forces
>>> under New Labour.
>>>
>>> The launch is expected to be formally announced this autumn with the
>>> first veterans' cards handed to new armed forces leavers in spring next
>>> year, before being rolled out to the country's four million former
>>> service personnel.
>>> "
>>
>>Well, I'm a former serviceman and I certainly won't be getting one.
>
> how do you know?

I *assumed* one needed to apply. Reading it again, you may have a point. In
which case, mine will be returned in two pieces.

>
>>This
>>just reinforces Margaret Thatcher's maxim that the real divide in this
>>country lies between the public and private sector.
>
> eh? quite apart from anything else, this crowd of loonies are (unlike
> even thatcher) aiming to privatise bits of the armed forces. so how
> does one compare them, in this case?

The cards will be issued to uniform-wearing, pukka ex-members. Not civilian
support staff.


Ophelia

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Mar 31, 2009, 3:33:20 AM3/31/09
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True Blue wrote:
> The cards will be issued to uniform-wearing, pukka ex-members. Not
> civilian support staff.

ALL ex servicemen? No matter how long ago they finished their service?


True Blue

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Mar 31, 2009, 8:08:22 AM3/31/09
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"Ophelia" <Oph...@Nix.co.uk> wrote in message
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I'm not sure. Off the top of my head, I think current strength is around
200,000. So, 4 million is twenty times that figure....looks like it could
mean just that.

Ophelia

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Mar 31, 2009, 8:21:40 AM3/31/09
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Thanks.


John Bennett

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Mar 31, 2009, 11:38:41 AM3/31/09
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When I received my UKAFV badge it did say there were about 5 million
serving and ex service people in all.
Including of course the two surviving WW1 veterans.
A rather select bunch would you say? :-))

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