Re: New Orleans Police Department Fire 51 Cops for Desertion
Pookie
"Andy" <andy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> New Orleans Police Fire 51 for Desertion
>
> By MARY FOSTER,
>
> Associated Press Writer
>
> 10/29/2005
>
> NEW ORLEANS - Amid the chaos that ensued as Hurricane Katrina struck
> the city, dozens of police officers and civilian employees left their
> posts unexpectedly and were not heard from again.
>
> On Friday, the New Orleans Police Department fired 51 of them, 45
> officers and six civilian workers, for abandonment.
>
> "They either left before the hurricane or 10 to 12 days after the
> storm and we have never heard from them," acting police superintendent
> Warren Riley said.
>
> Police were unable to account for 240 officers on the 1,450-member
> force following Katrina. The force has been investigating them to see
> if they left their posts during the storm.
>
> The mass firing was the first action taken against any of the missing
> officers. Another 15 officers resigned when placed under investigation
> for abandonment.
>
> "This isn't representative of our department," Riley said. "We had a
> lot of heroes that stepped up after the storm."
>
> Another 45 officers have resigned from the force since the Aug. 29
> storm. The resignations were for personal reasons ranging from
> relocation to new employment, Riley said.
>
> The officers fired Friday won't have the right to appeal, Riley said.
> "The regulation says that if you leave the job for a period of 14 days
> without communication you can be terminated," Riley said.
>
> Lt. David Benelli, president of the New Orleans police union, said he
> had no sympathy for those who abandoned their post. "The worst thing
> you can call a police officer is a deserter," Benelli said.
>
> He said none of the officers had contacted the union about fighting
> the dismissals.
>
> Two former New Orleans police officers and a New Orleans firefighter
> were rejected for jobs in the Dallas Police Department because of
> allegations they deserted their jobs during Hurricane Katrina.
>
> Dallas Deputy Chief Floyd Simpson said there were approximately seven
> to 10 recent applicants for his department from New Orleans' police or
> fire departments. Three were rejected because of the desertion
> allegations and two were moving through the process after it was
> determined that they left the police department under proper
> circumstances. He did not provide the status of the others.
>
> "When you are ready and take an oath of office and you do not fulfill
> that office, that's an issue for us and it should be an issue for law
> enforcement in general," Simpson said.
>
> Hearings for New Orleans officers who remain under investigation for
> abandonment will begin Nov. 8, Riley said.
>
> "The hearings will take us four to six months to do," he said.
> "Decisions on what to do with those officers based on the hearings
> will be made within 48 hours."
>
> Riley said the decisions will be made weekly as the hearings are
> complete.
>
> The department is also investigating the beating of a man during his
> arrest and the assault on an Associated Press television producer.
>
> "It's still ongoing, but we hope to have a conclusion within a few
> weeks," Riley said.
>
>
Sandman
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> New Orleans Police Fire 51 for Desertion
........what about firing those police officers who were filmed LOOTING a
walmart?
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
R Sweeney
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:45:03 -0600, "Pookie"
> <melissa...@missing.com> wrote:
>
>>And every single one of them was a Negro! Sheeeeesh!!!!!!
>
> the story.
>
> Did you think all police in NOLA were Black?
A racist merely assumes...it's the laziness of prejudice.
I. M. White
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By "racist", do you mean someone who is a realist that relies on statistical
probability rather than the feel good emotions of political correctness?
Racist (new age definition) n. 1) Anyone who supports color-blindness
and equality rather than racial preferences and affirmative action in
jobs, education, housing, and public accommodation. 2) Anyone who
dares reveal data and facts that reflect negatively on a "preferred"
minority group. 3) Anyone who suggests that all people should take
personal responsibility and remove themselves from the victim
plantation.
--
What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think
about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
I. M. White
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:40:39 -0400, "I. M. White" <imw...@afn.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"R Sweeney" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:7PWdnd8hitM...@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Andy" <andy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:b5h7m1hagasjqbm0b...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:45:03 -0600, "Pookie"
>>>> <melissa...@missing.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>And every single one of them was a Negro! Sheeeeesh!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> How do you know that? There is nothing mentioned about their race in
>>>> the story.
>>>>
>>>> Did you think all police in NOLA were Black?
>>>
>>> A racist merely assumes...it's the laziness of prejudice.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>By "racist", do you mean someone who is a realist that relies on
>>statistical
>>probability rather than the feel good emotions of political correctness?
>
> Answer the question.
>
> Prove that all the police that were fired in NO were all Black or shut
> the hell up.
I never addressed the "question", moron. I simply asked a question in
reference to YOUR remark accusing someone of being racist; a question that
you conveniently evaded like the coward you are showing yourself to be.
>
>
>>
>>Racist (new age definition) n. 1) Anyone who supports color-blindness
>>and equality rather than racial preferences and affirmative action in
>>jobs, education, housing, and public accommodation. 2) Anyone who
>>dares reveal data and facts that reflect negatively on a "preferred"
>>minority group. 3) Anyone who suggests that all people should take
>>personal responsibility and remove themselves from the victim
>>plantation.
>
> Oh, you are a racist alright,
By the new definition provided, absolutley! And unlike you, I am a realist
who is not afraid of the truth. That's much better than being a loud-mouth
punk like yourself who has been taught what to think rather than how to
think all in the name of political correctness.
but go ahead, boyo, and show us the
> proof that only Black police officers were doing the looting and
> deserting.
>
> You cant, and YOU know it, laddy.
Do show where I made any mention of whether the "po'leese off'suh's" in
question were NIGGERS or not. You can't, and YOU know it, because being the
mental midget you expose yourself to be has reduced your only defense to
being a an outright liar. Furthermore, don't try and change the topic as to
whether the police fired were looters or not, the topic was desertion,
pea-brain. And you thought I wouldn't notice!
Not only are you unable to keep up with the topic, you are unable to
comprehend what I stated. Why am I not surprised?!!
Joe Bridgehouse
> "R Sweeney" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>"Andy" <andy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:45:03 -0600, "Pookie"
>>><melissa...@missing.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And every single one of them was a Negro! Sheeeeesh!!!!!!
>>>
>>>How do you know that? There is nothing mentioned about their race in
>>>the story.
>>>
>>>Did you think all police in NOLA were Black?
>>
>>A racist merely assumes...it's the laziness of prejudice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> By "racist", do you mean someone who is a realist that relies on statistical
> probability rather than the feel good emotions of political correctness?
>
>
> Racist (new age definition) n. 1) Anyone who supports color-blindness
> and equality rather than racial preferences and affirmative action in
> jobs, education, housing, and public accommodation. 2) Anyone who
> dares reveal data and facts that reflect negatively on a "preferred"
> minority group. 3) Anyone who suggests that all people should take
> personal responsibility and remove themselves from the victim
> plantation.
>
>
were white, and said so when they got home, were they telling porkies????
R Sweeney
"I. M. White" <imw...@afn.org> wrote in message
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> "R Sweeney" <DockS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Andy" <andy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:b5h7m1hagasjqbm0b...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:45:03 -0600, "Pookie"
>>> <melissa...@missing.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>And every single one of them was a Negro! Sheeeeesh!!!!!!
>>>
>>> How do you know that? There is nothing mentioned about their race in
>>> the story.
>>>
>>> Did you think all police in NOLA were Black?
>>
>> A racist merely assumes...it's the laziness of prejudice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> By "racist", do you mean someone who is a realist that relies on
> statistical probability rather than the feel good emotions of political
> correctness?
Yes... except you are not a realist. Prejudiced is the word.
Racists assume they know something about someone because of the color of
their skin. Using stereotype beliefs instead of personal knowledge - which
may or may not be backed with population statistics.
People are INDIVIDUALS
One can not point to any person and know from gross population statistics
ANYTHING about them.
Take Condi Rice for instance, by statistics she could be an uneducated,
inarticulate, poor, unwed mother.
But she's not, is she?
Yet if you saw her on the street, you would wrongly assume that because she
was a black woman that you knew something about her.
This is the arrogant laziness of racism.
R Sweeney
"Joe Bridgehouse" <joe...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> But all the brits who took shelter in the dome were threatened cos they
> were white, and said so when they got home, were they telling porkies????
I don't doubt them at all.
You think that racists come in one color?
Let's assume that 10% of the population is seriously racist.
That means there were 5000 angry mostly black racists in the Superdome
looking to get even with the race of their choice - like the small group of
white Europeans.
Sandman
>>........what about firing those police officers who were filmed LOOTING a
>>walmart?
>>
>>Sandman
>>http://SurvivalCache.com
>>
>
um......i think _they_ should be fired.....dont you? or do they get a free
pass because they happened to be black also?
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
Sandman
> And you "know" they were all Black too, isn't that correct?
>
> So absolutely no white officers did any looting at all?
drop your hypersensitive bullshit already. my statement CLEARLY concerned
the officers who were videotaped looting and yes, they were black. my
statement was CLEARLY limited to those officers.
.......now instead of avoiding it, how about answering my original
questions. dont you think the officers videotaped looting should also be
fired, or do they get a free pass from you because they happen to be black
(and you feel guilty over something that ended 140 years ago)? my
statements were factual and neutral. _nothing_ in my statements are racist
to anyone not desperately seeking to turn any mention of blacks into racism.
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
CD
Thats exactly what happened. Check these links for the full story
Valenti and her husband, two of very few white people in the almost
exclusively black refugee camp, said she and other whites were threatened
with murder yesterday.
"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come
last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said,
sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away
because we would all be killed if the buses came - that's what the people in
charge told us this morning."
Other survivors recounted horrific cases of sexual assault and murder
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16475025,00.html
"He saw murders, stabbings and rapes in there," Mr McNeil said.
Mr McNeil said about 100 military personnel and police in the dome were
struggling to cope with the huge crowd.
"It was just getting worse by the hour and there were gangs in there who
were killing each other," he said.
Mr McNeil claimed African Americans in the Superdome had abused foreign
tourists and demanded they be rescued ahead of them from the crowded
football stadium, where conditions were stifling.
The 60 foreign tourists were escorted from the Superdome by military
personnel. They spent one night at a medical aid post in a nearby building
before they were moved to the Hilton.
CD
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> And every single one of them was a Negro! Sheeeeesh!!!!!!
Probably not. But here's a link to a film of the cops looting.
CD
"CD" <c...@nospam.com.au> wrote in message
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Lets try that again
http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown-looting-in-walmart/
I. M. White
Cherry picking one on one vitals is a game for cowardly losers.
Gary, IN: 85% NIGGER
Amherst, NY : 88.3% White
Gary, IN: America's Most Dangerous City
Amherst, NY: America's Safest City
SOURCES:
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/cb01cn176.html
http://www.amherstida.com/facts/population.htm
http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity5.htm
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http://www.americancivilrightsreview.com/africanfailure.html
The fact that Whites outnumber Blacks by an approximately 7 to 1 ratio would
suggest that not only should Whites be committing more murders than Blacks,
but also Whites would be killing more Blacks than Blacks are killing Whites.
Most blacks think that incidences such as the Wichita murders are
"justifiable" due to "racism" and "fo' hunnerd yeers of OHpression".
Kill ratios Averaged for Five Years
B on W W on B
1994 1306 469
1995 1110 454
1996 1077 417
1997 974 343
1998 839 362
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Total 5306 2045
Average 1061.2 409
White Population in *thousands*
98 97 96 95 94
223,001 221,317 219,623 218,010 216,365
Total 1,098,316,000
Average 219,663,200
Black Population in *thousands*
98 97 96 95 94
34,431 33,973 33,518 33,098 32,654
Total 167,674,000
Average 33,534,800
Black average of White murders / Black average population per 100,000
1061 / 33,534,800 x 100,000 = 3.16
White average of Black murders / White average population per 100,000
409 / 219,663,200 x 100,000 = 0.186
3.16/0.186 = 16.99
BLACKS ARE 17 TIMES (1700%) MORE LIKELY TO KILL WHITES THAN WHITES ARE TO
KILL BLACKS
So, do you think the ratios are insignificant? What if White people killed
blacks at the same rate that blacks killed whites??
Let x = dead negroes killed between 1994-2003
x / 219,663,000 x 100,000 = 3.16
x = (3.16)(219,663,000) / 100,000
x = 6941 per year
6941 x 10 years = 69,410 dead negroes
This is over TEN THOUSAND MORE DEATHS THAN WERE SUFFERED BY AMERICANS DURING
THE ENTIRE VIET NAM WAR.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/ovrace.txt
http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/intfile3-1.txt
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CD
"I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
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Interesting figures. In Australia we have similar statistics with the
Indigenous (Aboriginal) population. While they make up approximately 2% of
the total population, yet they represent 21% of the prison population and
are involved in 15.7% of all homicides.
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi210.html
http://www.aic.gov.au/topics/indigenous/statistics.html
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig099.html
CD
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:12:43 +1100, "CD" <c...@nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>"I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
>>news:dk3q0j$66m$0...@pita.alt.net...
>
> Because the white man stole their land and held them down, just like
> whitey in the USA did with Blacks, making them work as slaves?
>
> That couldn't be it, could it ?
>
> Nah!!!
No, not correct. I guess you have no idea what you’re taking about.
Indigenous Australian are not held down as you claim. In fact, both the
federal and each state government have many assistance programs specifically
in place to help Indigenous Australians. These include free housing, job
assistance and the employer, education assistance, discounted loans, free
legal assistance and many more programs not available to non aboriginal
Australians.
He's a few links
http://www.housing.qld.gov.au/renting/indigenous/applying/bedroom.htm
http://www.oodgeroo.qut.edu.au/students/atas.jsp
http://www.aboriginaleducation.nsw.edu.au/index.html
https://www.wageassistance.gov.au/default.asp?AboutWAPage
>
missi...@gmail.com
with absolutely no intellegence or skill, who probably caught his mama
with a black man a few times?
I. M. White
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:12:43 +1100, "CD" <c...@nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>
> Because the white man stole their land and held them down, just like
> whitey in the USA did with Blacks, making them work as slaves?
>
> That couldn't be it, could it ?
>
> Nah!!!
>
Yet another brainwashed liberal makes an ass out of himself. No surprise
there!!!
First, NIGGERS were never in what is now the USA, so how did whites take
their land from them?
Second, whites bought the NIGGER slaves fair and square from their
africoonian "bro's". IOW, NIGGERS were capturing and then selling the
NIGGER slaves to the whites. And since people have been selling and buying
animals for centuries, your point is???
Third, I note that you don't dispute the statisitics about NIGGERS, but
instead, make excuses for them.
Finally, don't fret none about my having made an ass out of you, as better
men than you have tried to debate me about the failed NIGGER race and lost
miserably.
James
Jim
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Sandman
>>drop your hypersensitive bullshit already. my statement CLEARLY concerned
>>the officers who were videotaped looting and yes, they were black. my
>>statement was CLEARLY limited to those officers.
>
because someone else had already addressed the issue of the officers who
walked off the job. my question for you was clearly limited to the officers
that were videotaped looting.......and youve avoided giving me an answer.
> YOU white Americans did that all by yourselves!!
hey fuck-twit, ive never enslaved _anybody_.
>>my
>>statements were factual and neutral. _nothing_ in my statements are
>>racist
>>to anyone not desperately seeking to turn any mention of blacks into
>>racism.
>
> Utter Bullshit!
lol.......so according to you, if i think the officers should be fired for
looting it makes me a racist because they happen to be black. _nothing_ i
said was racist. i simply asked you if they should be fired. you liberal
twits sure are quick to attempt to cloud the discussion by throwing out
"racist" but it just wont work. boy, wouldnt it throw a wrench in your
little plan if i told you that i was a conservative republican black
american? :-)
which im not.......or maybe i am......maybe its irrelevant to our
discussion, or maybe its not. regardless, your pitiful attempt at labelling
me racist for asking a simple question is nothing more than just
that.......a pitiful attempt.
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
Sandman
> First, NIGGERS were never in what is now the USA, so how did whites take
> their land from them?
oh c'mon now......dont confuse him with the facts!
while i dont endorse your blatent racism, i most certainly do recognize your
god given right to love or hate anyone you so choose, and i recognize the
facts that support your off color (pun intended!) statements. sometimes the
truth isnt pretty, but statistically......well......the numbers speak for
themselves even if some refuse to acknowledge them.
> Second, whites bought the NIGGER slaves fair and square from their
> africoonian "bro's". IOW, NIGGERS were capturing and then selling the
> NIGGER slaves to the whites.
black on black crime? :-)
> I note that you don't dispute the statisitics about NIGGERS, but instead,
> make excuses for them.
liberal SOP.
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
I. M. White
"Sandman" <spamb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Liberals go to one of two wells when they are losing an argument:
"You are a Racist/bigot!"
"You are a Nazi/Fascist"
It's the only defense that they can muster.
I. M. White
> "I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
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>> First, NIGGERS were never in what is now the USA, so how did whites take
>> their land from them?
>
> oh c'mon now......dont confuse him with the facts!
>
> while i dont endorse your blatent racism, i most certainly do recognize
> your god given right to love or hate anyone you so choose, and i recognize
> the facts that support your off color (pun intended!) statements.
> sometimes the truth isnt pretty, but statistically......well......the
> numbers speak for themselves even if some refuse to acknowledge them.
Blatent racist?!!! That depends on what your version of the meaning of
"racist is. Here's mine:
Racist (new age definition) n. 1) Anyone who supports color-blindness
and equality rather than racial preferences and affirmative action in
jobs, education, housing, and public accommodation. 2) Anyone who
dares reveal data and facts that reflect negatively on a "preferred"
minority group. 3) Anyone who suggests that all people should take
personal responsibility and remove themselves from the victim
plantation.
I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth. Furthermore, I
don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal. I simply recognize
them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I would do if I
encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume that the bear
will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual bear. Most bears
will kill you if given the chance, as will a high percentage of NIGGERS as
shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate bears.
>
>
>> Second, whites bought the NIGGER slaves fair and square from their
>> africoonian "bro's". IOW, NIGGERS were capturing and then selling the
>> NIGGER slaves to the whites.
>
> black on black crime? :-)
LOL!!!! It appears so.
>
>
>> I note that you don't dispute the statisitics about NIGGERS, but instead,
>> make excuses for them.
>
> liberal SOP.
That it is!
Regards,
I. M. White
R Sweeney
and you think this tells you all you need to know about any individual?
You can go to Gary, pick any white person there and they are always going to
be just like a white person from Amherst?
Like I said, arrogant laziness at best.... and bitter hatred at worst.
R Sweeney
"CD" <c...@nospam.com.au> wrote in message news:43660bab$0$27299
> No, not correct. I guess you have no idea what you’re taking about.
> Indigenous Australian are not held down as you claim. In fact, both the
> federal and each state government have many assistance programs
> specifically in place to help Indigenous Australians. These include free
> housing, job assistance and the employer, education assistance, discounted
> loans, free legal assistance and many more programs not available to non
> aboriginal Australians.
wonder if the Aborigine still remember the virus infected blankets given to
them from the friendly govermnent up until a hundred years ago?
or the stealing of their children just 50 years ago?
R Sweeney
"I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
> Blatent racist?!!! That depends on what your version of the meaning of
> "racist is. Here's mine:
>
> Racist (new age definition) n. 1) Anyone who supports color-blindness
> and equality rather than racial preferences and affirmative action in
> jobs, education, housing, and public accommodation. 2) Anyone who
> dares reveal data and facts that reflect negatively on a "preferred"
> minority group. 3) Anyone who suggests that all people should take
> personal responsibility and remove themselves from the victim
> plantation.
>
> I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth. Furthermore, I
> don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal. I simply
> recognize them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I would do
> if I encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume that the
> bear will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual bear.
> Most bears will kill you if given the chance, as will a high percentage of
> NIGGERS as shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate bears.
You are quite a case if you can't tell the difference between people and
bears.
You must be terrified to leave your home.
You see bears driving cars, bears at the grocery, bears at the movies
and bears in the schools with the little white sheep.
oh my!
I. M. White
People??? We are talking about sub-human NIGGERS. Do try and keep up.
And what part of the following equates into people and sub-human NIGGERS
driving, grocery stores, and movies?
And I quote, "if I encountered a bear in the woods".
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
CD
It seems where drifting far from the topic of this thread. But I'm happy to
continue this debate and watch you make a fool of yourself. I note with
interest how you've failed to provide any support for your claims. How
typical of the PC apologist. Your type love to make your feel good claims,
but never seem happy to support it with evidence.
As for your first alligation. I presume your referring to smallpox? Perhaps
you can provide some proof that this was a deliberate act and not just
another example of an isolated race being exposed to a new disease that has
killed millions across all the world. BTW the first case happened over 200
years ago and the last was 140 years ago. Not exactly relevant to today.
And you second allegation. I assume you referring to the so called 'stolen
generation'. Happy to debate this to myth. Perhaps you can firstly provide a
reference to any successful prosecutions or law suit?
Eagerly awaiting your reply
CD @ Sydney
R Sweeney
my source is a Victoria Ethnography Museum (Melbourne) exhibit on Aborigine
history - around 1992 as I recall. I think now it is called Museum Victoria.
Sorry, but I saw the exhibit first hand - so no internet cites.
I was shocked that the official Australian policy of genocide lasted so
long - and it stuck.
R Sweeney
"I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message news:dk6dj4
>>> I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth. Furthermore, I
>>> don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal. I simply
>>> recognize them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I would
>>> do if I encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume that
>>> the bear will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual
>>> bear. Most bears will kill you if given the chance, as will a high
>>> percentage of NIGGERS as shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate
>>> bears.
>>
>> You are quite a case if you can't tell the difference between people and
>> bears.
>>
>> You must be terrified to leave your home.
>> You see bears driving cars, bears at the grocery, bears at the movies
>> and bears in the schools with the little white sheep.
>
>
> People??? We are talking about sub-human NIGGERS. Do try and keep up.
>
> And what part of the following equates into people and sub-human NIGGERS
> driving, grocery stores, and movies?
>
> And I quote, "if I encountered a bear in the woods".
>
>
> Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
So you equate the mindless violence of animals to the behavior of all black
people to support your predjudice. You think we didn't know this?
Turn in your "white guys" membership card immediately!
You are embarassing all of us.
Sandman
> Blatent racist?!!! That depends on what your version of the meaning of
> "racist is.
it can be difficult to debate terminology. although statistically rare, i
have nothing against self sufficient blacks who go to work and do their best
to raise their families just like im doing. on the other hand, the hip-hop
generation of "g's" running around with their asses hanging out of the tops
of their pants.....you all know exactly what im referencing although most
are scared to acknowledge it.....those thugs that the liberal shits make
excuses for and try to "understand" but would shit bricks if they found
themselves amonst them......well, i just have nothing for them beyond 230
grains of love should they get within range of me or mine.
when i lived in the south east i was a lot like you......i had a lot of
prejudice towards blacks because the majority of them in the south east are
the exact type of thugs youve referenced. in fact, i picked up my entire
family a couple years ago and moved them 2500 miles away (to montana)
specifically to get away from the exact thugs you reference. up here
though, i see something that ive never seen before. in best buy a black
employee approached me. immediately i thought "oh shit, here we go again
with the yo-yo-you bullshit". to my surprise, he waved at me and said "hi,
how are ya" with a smile on his face. in 35 years it was the first time a
black man ever waved at me with more than one finger.
the bottom line i guess, while i recognize the truth in the statistics that
you quote, i now try my best not to pre judge based simply on color. now
when i see the shit on tv about the new orleans thugs it tends to dump it
all out the window....but i try to remain objective.
> I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth.
agreed, although if you worded it differently you wouldnt be dismissed
immediately by many. there is undeniable truth in what you say. the
liberals will make excuses and attempt to change the subject to how bad you
are instead of directly addressing your proven and factual statistics. when
you use a word like "nigger" though, many see that and dismiss everything
else you have to say immediately without even looking at your overall
statement objectively. if youre simply expressing yourself, it works for
you. if youre trying to make a point or change the thinking of others
though, many wont get passed the word "nigger" because theyve been
programmed to dismiss anything once you use the forbidden word (er, if youre
white anyway).
> I don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal.
heh......i dont care who you are.....racist or not......ignorant or
informed........._thats_ funny! :-)
> I simply recognize them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I
> would do if I encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume
> that the bear will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual
> bear. Most bears will kill you if given the chance, as will a high
> percentage of NIGGERS as shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate
> bears.
heh.......i certainly cannot deny you your logic there. whether i agree
with you or not, your feelings are certainly well thought out.
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
James H. Hood
> Because the white man stole their land and held them down, just like
> whitey in the USA did with Blacks, making them work as slaves?
Whitey stole Black land in the US? Say WHAT?
James
"NIGGERS" so please explain that to us so we can understand why not think
NIGGERS are not quite human? And if that is racist so be it!
Jim
Michael Ejercito
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Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: The December born are trash!!
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:27:08 -0000
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>Want proof? Click the link below.
>http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/interracial_rapes.htm
When people not born in December commit violence, they to it to the
December born 8.3% of the time. Those with a December birthday, on the
other hand, choose victims born in other months more than 90% of the
time.
Must be the cumulative effect of years of only getting one present.
Regards
Daran
I. M. White
> "I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
> news:dk66si$dne$0...@pita.alt.net...
>> Blatent racist?!!! That depends on what your version of the meaning of
>> "racist is.
>
> it can be difficult to debate terminology. although statistically rare, i
> have nothing against self sufficient blacks who go to work and do their
> best to raise their families just like im doing. on the other hand, the
> hip-hop generation of "g's" running around with their asses hanging out of
> the tops of their pants.....you all know exactly what im referencing
> although most are scared to acknowledge it.....those thugs that the
> liberal shits make excuses for and try to "understand" but would shit
> bricks if they found themselves amonst them......well, i just have nothing
> for them beyond 230 grains of love should they get within range of me or
> mine.
>
30 years of living in apelanta will open the eyes of even the most staunch
NIGGERphile. I'm living proof!
Those nice "black families" are usually the first to scream "racism"
whenever those "g's" are properly delt with.
And as for "self sufficient" those are the rare exception and not the rule.
As a group, however, knee-grows are a not "cost efficient".
http://christianparty.net/blackcosts.htm
> when i lived in the south east i was a lot like you......i had a lot of
> prejudice towards blacks because the majority of them in the south east
> are the exact type of thugs youve referenced. in fact, i picked up my
> entire family a couple years ago and moved them 2500 miles away (to
> montana) specifically to get away from the exact thugs you reference. up
> here though, i see something that ive never seen before. in best buy a
> black employee approached me. immediately i thought "oh shit, here we go
> again with the yo-yo-you bullshit". to my surprise, he waved at me and
> said "hi, how are ya" with a smile on his face. in 35 years it was the
> first time a black man ever waved at me with more than one finger.
A knee-grow in Montana?!!!!!! Please tell me it isn't
so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> the bottom line i guess, while i recognize the truth in the statistics
> that you quote, i now try my best not to pre judge based simply on color.
> now when i see the shit on tv about the new orleans thugs it tends to dump
> it all out the window....but i try to remain objective.
>
>
>
>> I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth.
>
> agreed, although if you worded it differently you wouldnt be dismissed
> immediately by many. there is undeniable truth in what you say. the
> liberals will make excuses and attempt to change the subject to how bad
> you are instead of directly addressing your proven and factual statistics.
> when you use a word like "nigger" though, many see that and dismiss
> everything else you have to say immediately without even looking at your
> overall statement objectively. if youre simply expressing yourself, it
> works for you. if youre trying to make a point or change the thinking of
> others though, many wont get passed the word "nigger" because theyve been
> programmed to dismiss anything once you use the forbidden word (er, if
> youre white anyway).
I started out years ago with the nice guy approach and finally realized that
there are only sheep and thinkers. The thinkers already know what I post is
true and usually just chuckle knowing what the liberal responses will be.
Regardless of the delivery, whenever the sheep are presented with a dose of
reality that goes against their programming, I've found that they
immediately go on autopilot without pause and begin with the accusations
racist, a bigot, hater, nazi, etc., etc., because that's what they have been
brainwashed to do and lack the courage to think on their own. Bill Cosby
himself was ridiculed and viciously attacked for doing nothing more than
speaking the truth in the most eloquent manner, and he's black!
>
>
>> I don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal.
>
> heh......i dont care who you are.....racist or not......ignorant or
> informed........._thats_ funny! :-)
>
>
>> I simply recognize them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I
>> would do if I encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume
>> that the bear will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual
>> bear. Most bears will kill you if given the chance, as will a high
>> percentage of NIGGERS as shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate
>> bears.
>
> heh.......i certainly cannot deny you your logic there. whether i agree
> with you or not, your feelings are certainly well thought out.
>
> Sandman
> http://SurvivalCache.com
>
Unless the responder is nothing but a troll with no purpose in life, even
the most liberal NIGGERphile is unable to dispute the facts against NIGGERS.
That is why there is so much pressure from them to hide the truth.
I. M. White
>
> "I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message news:dk6dj4
>
>>>> I'm just a realist who is not afraid to speak the truth. Furthermore,
>>>> I don't hate NIGGERS anymore than I hate any other animal. I simply
>>>> recognize them for what they are and act accordingly. The same I would
>>>> do if I encountered a bear in the woods. I am not going to assume that
>>>> the bear will not hurt me just because I don't know that individual
>>>> bear. Most bears will kill you if given the chance, as will a high
>>>> percentage of NIGGERS as shown by statistics. That doesn't mean I hate
>>>> bears.
>>>
>>> You are quite a case if you can't tell the difference between people and
>>> bears.
>>>
>>> You must be terrified to leave your home.
>>> You see bears driving cars, bears at the grocery, bears at the movies
>>> and bears in the schools with the little white sheep.
>>
>>
>> People??? We are talking about sub-human NIGGERS. Do try and keep up.
>>
>> And what part of the following equates into people and sub-human NIGGERS
>> driving, grocery stores, and movies?
>>
>> And I quote, "if I encountered a bear in the woods".
>>
>>
>> Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
>
> So you equate the mindless violence of animals of mindless violence of
> NIGGERS?
I fixed your sentence. No need to thank me!
And BTW, "black people" is an oxymoron, moron, as NIGGERS are nothing more
than sub-human animals.
I. M. White
Lucky for you stupidity isn't painful.
The population of niggers in the U.S. is only 12%.
People who make one on one comparisons between niggers and Whites in
the U.S. are trying to hide something. It's about as ridiculous as me
saying, "Most non workers in Africa are niggers'. But that is exactly
what you are doing.
But you know, even on one on one comparisons, niggers still exceed all
others in murder, rape, robbery, and car jackings. Go figure, huh?
The following compliments of Tom Shelly.......................
WHILE ONLY AROUND 12% OF THE U.S. POPULATION AND
OUTNUMBERED BY OTHER RACES BY 9 TO 1:
NIGGERS COMMIT BETWEEN 51% AND 60% OF THE MURDERS
NIGGERS ARE ARRESTED FOR 57- 61% OF THE ROBBERIES
NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 50% OF THE ROBBERIES
NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 50% OF THE RAPES AND CHOOSE WHITE WOMEN TO RAPE
OVER 50% OF NIGGER MALES WILL BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH A SERIOUS
FELONY IN THEIR LIFETIME
NIGGER VIOLENT CRIME TARGETS WHITES OVER 50% OF THE TIME
NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 58% OF THE CARJACKINGS
***NIGGERS COMMIT BETWEEN 51%- 60% OF THE MURDERS:
The FBI Uniform Crime Reports are available on the Internet at
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm.
In one of
these reports, titled Crime in the United States, 1995, we can draw
several interesting conclusions
from Table 2.8. In 1995, there were 10032 US murders having a single
perpetrator and a single victim.
Of these murders, Blacks committed 5175 (51.6%) and "Whites" committed
4476 (44.6%).
Black offenders account for 56 percent of arrests for murder
[FBI, Crime in the United States].
similar statistics hold for the black share of offenders under age 18,
with a
59.5 percent share of murder arrests for black youths
[FBI, Crime in the United States].
African Americans, (12 percent of the total population) accounted for
about 56 percent of all
those arrested for murder and for about half of all those
arrested for violent crimes.
http://www.people.vcu.edu/~jmahoney/crime.htm
Blacks commit ..... 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32)
(27) (6)
6.Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5.
1993
27.Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western
Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535,
Washington, D. C. 20007
32.Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The
Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
Between 1976 and 1999 in the U.S. :
niggers commited 51.5% of the homicides in the U.S.
SOURCE: United States Department of Justice:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
as of 12/.01
Of (MURDER) offenders for whom race was known, 53
percent were black, 45 percent were white, and the remainder
were
persons of other races.
SOURCE:
http://www.murdervictims.com/murder_statistics.htm
Homicide data were reported on 25,180 offenders in 1992. Of these
offenders for whom sex, age and race were reported--
*90% were male
*50% were age 15-24
*55% were black.
SOURCE:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/viocrm.txt
as of 03/02
Since 1986, nigglets committed more murders in the U.S. than Whites
and
hispanics
combined;
SOURCE: Data Source: Federal Bureau of Investigation. Supplementary
Homicide Reports for the years 1980-1997
[machine-readable data
files]. Washington, DC: FBI.
http://www.ojjdp.ncjrs.org/ojstatbb/html/qa137.html
as of 12/01
In 1996 law enforcement agencies reported to the FBI that they
arrested 14,439 murderers. Of these murderers, 7,928 or 55%
were Black.
http://www.kukluxklan.net/index10.html
Ninety-one percent of those arrested for murder in 1995 were males and
9 percent, females. Blacks comprised 54 percent of
the
total; whites, 43 percent; and the remainder, other races (pg 22)
NOTE: Remember, subtract 15% from the white 43% to get
28%. So, blacks 54%, hispanics 15%, whites 28%.
http://www.propaganda101.com/raceand.htm
****NIGGERS ARE ARRESTED FOR 61% OF THE ROBBERIES
Black offenders account for 61 percent of arrests for robbery
[FBI, Crime in the United States].
According to the Uniform Crime Report, 1997, 57% of the people
arrested
for robbery were niggers.
Source: Arrest information by race is from Crime in the United States
1997, p. 240.
Who is the robber? According to the 1998 Uniform Crime Reports of all
arrested robbers:
Robbers are predominately Young, Black and Male.
· 55% were 'Black'
http://www.umsl.edu/~rkeel/200/econcrim.html
Sixty-four percent of all robbery arrestees in 1995 were under 25
years of age, and 91 percent were males. Fifty-nine percent
of
those arrested were black, 39 percent were white, and the remainder
were of other races. (pg 29) NOTE: Again, remember,
subtract 15% from the white 39% to get 24%.So, blacks 59%, hispanics
18%, whites 21%.
http://www.propaganda101.com/raceand.htm
********NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 50% OF THE ROBBERIES
Blacks commit more than half of all rapes and
robberies and 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32)
(27) (6)
6.Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5.
1993
27.Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western
Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535,
Washington, D. C. 20007
32.Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The
Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
According to NCVS data on single-offender crimes, 51 percent of
robbers
were reported by
their victims to be black
Source: Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1994, p. 40
From: The Color of Crime
. According to U.S. Department of Justice
statistics, blacks commit 54 percent of murders,......
59 percent of robberies
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_anchdn-voice.htm
AS OF 06/02
*******NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 50% OF RAPES
Blacks commit more than half of all rapes and
robberies and 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32)
(27) (6)
6.Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5.
1993
27.Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western
Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535,
Washington, D. C. 20007
32.Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The
Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
AND WHEN THEY DO RAPE, THEY RAPE WHITE WOMEN:
Black rapists choose White victims over
half (54.9%) of the time (2) (32) (28)
2.American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 92, pg
822+
28.Social Forces, Vol. 69, pg.1+, Sept. '90
32.Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The
Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY
*********50% OF ALL NIGGER MALES WILL BE CHARGED WITH A SERIOUS FELONY
IN THEIR LIFETIME
Approximately 50% of all Black males
will be arrested and charged with a serious felony
during their lifetime. (27)
27.Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western
Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535,
Washington, D. C. 20007
51 % of nonwhite males could anticipate being arrested for a felony
at
some time during their
lifetimes.
See generally Alfred Blumstein & Elizabeth Graddy, Prevalence and
Recidivism Index Arrests: A Feedback Model, 16
LAW & SOC'Y REV. 265 (1981-82). The cities surveyed were: Birmingham,
Phoenix, Tucson, Oakland, Long Beach, Los
Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Denver,
Washington, D.C., Miami, Jacksonville, Tampa, Atlanta,
Chicago, Indianapolis, Wichita, Louisville, New Orleans, Baltimore,
Boston, Detroit, Minneapolis, St. Paul, Kansas City, St. Louis,
Omaha, Newark, Jersey City, Albuquerque, Buffalo, Rochester, New York,
Charlotte, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo,
Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Portland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Memphis,
Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Ft. Worth, Austin,
Norfolk, Seattle, Milwaukee, and Honolulu.
*************NIGGER VIOLENT CRIME TARGETS WHITES MORE THAN 50% OF THE
TIME
The figures from Table 42 of the NCVS show other facts about
interracial
violence. If
we once Interracial Crime again
concentrate on the group of figures at the top of the
table we can calculate the total
number
of crimes committed by perpetrators of each
race, and the percentage that is
committed against the other race. We find that the
1,140,670 acts of violence committed
by
blacks against whites constitute 56.3 percent
of all violent crimes committed by
blacks. That is to say that when blacks commit
violent crimes they target whites
more
than half the time or, put differently, there is
more black-on-white than
black-on-black
crime. Similar calculations for whites show
that of the 5,114,692 acts of
criminal
violence committed by whites, only 2.6 percent
were directed at blacks. (Although
homicide is a violent crime, the NCVS does not
include it because victims cannot be
interviewed. The number of interracial murders is
small and does not affect the
percentages and ratios presented here.)
From The Color of Crime, New Century Foundation
available at:
http://jeffsarchive.com/hate%20crime/The%20Color%20of%20Crime.html
as of 12/01
or try:
http://www.amren.com/colrcrim.html
NIGGERS COMMIT OVER 58% OF THE CARJACKINGS
Between 1992 and 1996, 58 percent of all carjackers
were African-Americans. African-Americans make
up 12
percent of the U.S. population.
LU, New York Times, FBI, U.S. Department of Justice
http://speakout.com/activism/issue_briefs/1156b-1.html
AS OF 04/02
CD
I was interested in seeing this exhibit and tried numerous searches at the
Victoria Museum site, including 'smallpox' and 'Aboriginal genocide'. But
nothing!
http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/index.asp
However, I did find some information elsewhere. Apparently there is no
evidence whatsoever of a premeditated act to infect the Australian
Aboriginal population with smallpox.
(The first major smallpox epidemic among Aborigines was in April 1789,
fifteen months after first settlement. The second was in 1829-31, its origin
never determined, according to Frank Fenner in his monumental work on the
disease. The third major epidemic occurred between 1865 and 1869, generated
almost certainly by the visits of Malayan trepang fishermen. Goldsmid has
posited three possibilities about 1789: first, that it was deliberate
decimation, as in America where, as an American scholar asserts,
smallpox-infected blankets were introduced to "extirpate this execrable
race"; second, Aborigines stole bottles of "variolous matter" brought by the
surgeons of the First Fleet and subsequently became infected; third,
accidental Aboriginal infection from a local "variolate" colonist. There is
no evidence whatsoever of premeditation, a view supported by Watkin Tench, a
captain in the First Fleet, who suggested at the time that this was "a
supposition so wild as to be unworthy of consideration".)
Frank Fenner et al., Smallpox and its Eradication, World Health
Organization, Geneva, 1988, pp. 240-41.
John Goldsmid, The Deadly Legacy, University of NSW Press, Sydney, 1988, pp.
29-31.
As for your allegation of aboriginal children being taken from there
families. Well I noticed you left that out all together. I guess you
couldn't find any factual evidence to support your claim. Perhaps you
watched the movie "Rabbit Proof Fence" and that was all the evidence you
needed? If that's the case, then I suggest you read this interesting
editorial on the movie. As usual, it appears this movie had more poetic
licence than fact. Despite claims of it being "A True Story".
CD @ Sydney
Rabbit-proof myths
By: Andrew Bolt
The truth of Australia's past is hard enough to face, and untruths and
exaggerations now will only divide us.
Phillip Noyce claims his new film, Rabbit-Proof Fence, is a true story.
The Hollywood director's publicity blurb repeats the boast: ``A true
story.''
Even the first spoken words in the hyped film, which opens next week, are:
``This is a true story.''
Wrong. Crucial parts of this ``true story'' about a ``stolen generations''
child called Molly Craig are false or misleading. And shamefully so.
No wonder that when Craig saw Rabbit-Proof Fence at a special screening in
her bush settlement last month, she seem surprised.
``That's not my story,'' she said as the credits rolled.
No, it isn't. Instead, it is Craig's story told in a way that would help
``prove'' the ``stolen generations'' are no myth -- that thousands of
Aboriginal children were indeed torn from the arms of loving parents by
racist police.
In saying this, I mean no disrespect to Craig.
She has had a film (supported by $5.3 million of taxpayers' money) made of
an episode of her life in which she showed extraordinary courage, endurance
and willpower -- but it's a film which can't be trusted to tell the whole
truth. Who could value its praise?
It was 1931 and Molly Craig was just 14, when she and two of her younger
cousins -- Daisy, 8, and Gracie, 11 -- were taken from an Aboriginal camp at
Jigalong, in Western Australia's north, and sent to the Moore River Native
Settlement, 2000km south.
There these girls were to live with other ``half-castes'' and to go to
school, learning skills to help them to adapt to non-Aboriginal society.
But the girls fled after one night, and in an amazing nine-week epic walked
home to Jigalong -- all but Gracie, that is, who was found by police at
Wiluna.
Craig's feat made the papers but was not written up in full until 1996, when
her daughter, Doris Pilkington, who was herself raised at Moore River, wrote
the book on which Noyce has based his film.
BUT Noyce and his scriptwriter didn't stick to the facts Pilkington
uncovered. Instead, the story was rewritten and now supports a monstrous
falsehood -- that we have a genocidal past that is, as Noyce's publicity
material declares, ``more cruel than could ever be imagined''.
Let me show you how they did it -- how they told untruths or only half the
truth in their ``true story''.
THE FILM opens at Jigalong in 1931, and shows a neat bush camp. Molly Craig
is happy and healthy. Her mother is well-groomed. All is well.
THE FACT is many of these bush camps were squalid.
When Doris Pilkington first returned to Jigalong 30 years later, it was
still appalling.
``No one prepared me for the conditions that people lived under,'' she told
ABC radio in 1999.
``It was shocking. I hadn't seen so many dogs in my life. It was just tin
humpies and people just slept anywhere.''
THE FILM shows Molly playing with other children at Jigalong. Everyone is
smiling and seems happy.
THE FACT is Molly was the first ``half-caste'' of her tribe, and the
full-bloods treated her with scorn.
Pilkington says her mother often had to play alone because full-blood
children told her she was neither Aboriginal nor white, and was ``like a
mongrel dog''. She had no father to protect her.
THE FILM suggests Molly and her cousins were removed from Jigalong only
because the state's Chief Protector of Aborigines, A.O. Neville, was a
genocidal racist who wanted to ``breed out the Aborigine''.
It shows Neville outlining his plan to take half-caste children from their
families and stop them breeding with full-bloods. We then see him ordering
that Molly and her cousins be removed because the youngest girl is
``promised to a full-blood''.
THE FACT is the girls were taken after Neville learned they were in danger.
In 1930, he had received a letter from the superintendent of Jigalong
complaining that Molly and Gracie ``were not getting a fair chance as the
blacks consider the H/Cs (half castes) inferior to them''. He asked that
they be removed.
Others were also worried, given how vulnerable half-caste girls then were to
sexual exploitation, particularly by whites.
In December, 1930, a Mrs Chellow from Murra Munda station wrote to Neville
about the girls, warning: ``I think you should see about them, as they are
running wild with the whites.''
This fits with what Neville told the 1936 Moseley Royal Commission into the
treatment of Aborigines: ``The children who have been removed as wards of
the Chief Protector have been removed because I desired to be satisfied that
the conditions surrounding their upbringing were satisfactory, which they
certainly were not . . .''
Even today we rescue Aboriginal children from abuse and neglect -- and in
tragically high numbers.
THE FILM shows a policeman chasing the girls in his car and ripping them
from Molly's screaming mother.
According to Noyce, this scene ``tells the whole story'' of his film.
THE FACT, writes Pilkington, is that the officer rode up on horseback to
tell Molly's stepfather he'd take the girls, and ``the old man nodded''. The
officer put Molly and Gracie on a horse, gave them the reins and asked them
to follow him.
The next day he picked up Daisy and two sick women at another camp. There
was no chase, no struggle.
THE FILM then shows the girls on a train, locked in an iron-barred box for
dogs. They travel the last leg to Moore River tossed in the open tray of a
truck.
THE FACT is the girls were not locked in any box, and travelled most of the
way south by ship, which Pilkington said they felt was as a ``most pleasant
experience''. They saw porpoises, chatted to the crew and walked the decks
before going to bed in a cabin.
They rode the last bit not in a truck, but in a car driven by a matron who
stopped for sandwiches and lemonade.
THE FILM shows the girls arriving at Moore River, where they wear
prison-style sacks and are woken in the morning by a guard who screams and
belts the walls of their room with a club.
THE FACT is photos of children at Moore River show them dressed in European
clothes. Pilkington writes that when her mother ran away, she was dressed in
``two dresses, two pairs of calico bloomers and a coat''.
She also says the girls were woken individually and welcomed by one of the
female staff.
THE FILM shows children at Moore River singing Way Down Upon the Swanee
River for visitors. This shows they're so robbed of their black culture that
they sing fake Negro songs instead.
THE FACT is Molly saw no such concert. And Susan Maushart's book Sort of a
Place Like Home: Remembering the Moore River Native Settlement says this:
``Journalists investigating conditions at Moore River were invariably
impressed by the colourful experience of a staged corroboree.''
THE FILM shows babies left to cry in a room of cots. They, too, seem
``stolen''.
THE FACT is most Moore River children -- 1003 of the 1067 who went there
between 1933 and 1936, according to the Moseley commission -- were not
``stolen'' but sent there by their parents to get a schooling or to be safe.
Many had parents living in the camp next door.
SUCH distortions of the truth, and for what? There are enough cruelties in
our past we must confront -- the theft of black lands, the half-caste
children abandoned by white fathers, and the years of neglect of a people
whose culture and communities are now shattered.
There is so much to make good -- which is why the lies of the ``stolen
generations'' activists are unforgivable.
The Aboriginal leaders who falsely claim they were ``stolen'', the writers
who exaggerate the number of children removed, the silly compensation cases
that collapse and the slick claims of genocide all risk making every claim
of black suffering seem a cynical try-on.
The truth of our past is hard enough to face. Untruths and exaggerations now
will only divide us.
Your film shames not us, Phillip Noyce, but you.
Go through all the famous cases of "stolen" children and you'll hear many
similar stories -- black children needing help, and white officials trying
hard to give it.
This is the truth that some prominent Aborigines, such as activist Nancy
Barnes, have tried to tell.
Barnes, the first Aborigine to head an Northern Territory preschool, grew up
in South Australia's Colebrook Home, along with Lowitja O'Donoghue, later a
patron of the National Sorry Day Committee.
In her autobiography, Munyi's Daughter, Barnes says she was sent there by
her parents in 1934 after she caught poliomyelitis and couldn't walk, and
declares: "We are referred to as the 'Stolen Generation'. I consider myself
saved."
So would many others.
IN an appeal in 1932, the United Aborigines Mission described the children
it helped at Colebrook: "They came (here) in a state of miserable
malnutrition. One had a broken leg, one had an injured eye, some were
afflicted with that loathsome disease called yaws, some were more than
half-starved."
Colebrook, it added in 1934, "never forcibly takes a child from its native
mother, and every inmate has been rescued from the possibility of
demoralisation or premature death".
These are the realities "stolen generations" activists ignore, trying
instead to "prove" that black children were torn from loving families by
wicked racists.
Many kind people have believed them, vowing never again to let Aboriginal
children be taken from their homes. And what a price some of those children
paid. You see, another truth is that Aboriginal children today are still
beaten, raped or neglected at rates that should horrify us all.
Now mark what happens when that fact meets the "stolen generations" myth.
http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16689026%255E25717,00.html
gashauler
>> which im not.......or maybe i am......maybe its irrelevant to our
> discussion, or maybe its not. regardless, your pitiful attempt at
> labelling me racist for asking a simple question is nothing more than just
> that.......a pitiful attempt.
>
It's was a loaded question. I posted the same incident months ago. And yes
they should be fired even if they're purple. The mistake they made was when
the officer was walking away and saying they're there for the looters. If
she would have said they're there to get shoes for the people they have at
the station it would have a different outcome. And I've got news for you
EVERYONE is a racist at some level.
Sandman
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> The mistake they made was when the officer was walking away and saying
> they're there for the looters.
id have to respectfully disagree. the mistake they made was _looting_.
> EVERYONE is a racist at some level.
certainly. its human nature.
Sandman
http://SurvivalCache.com
John
R Sweeney
"I. M. White" <imw...@whitey.org> wrote in message
> Lucky for you stupidity isn't painful.
>
>
> The population of niggers in the U.S. is only 12%.
>
> People who make one on one comparisons between niggers and Whites in
> the U.S. are trying to hide something. It's about as ridiculous as me
> saying, "Most non workers in Africa are niggers'. But that is exactly
> what you are doing.
>
> But you know, even on one on one comparisons, niggers still exceed all
> others in murder, rape, robbery, and car jackings. Go figure, huh?
So you still think that population statistics allow you to classify any
individual?
lazy... and wrong
So do we have evidence yet that ALL of the deserted NOLAPD were black or are
we still working off of racist assumptions?
Could well be... don't you want know for sure?
Perusal
>
> Interesting figures. In Australia we have similar statistics with the
> Indigenous (Aboriginal) population. While they make up approximately 2% of
> the total population, yet they represent 21% of the prison population and
> are involved in 15.7% of all homicides.
>
>
>
> http://www.aic.gov.au/topics/indigenous/statistics.html
>
> http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig099.html
>
Very true. I am sure wealth (or lack thereof) has a big hand in it too. I
don't really have a viable solution to propose. Do you?
Chris
Perusal
>
> Third, I note that you don't dispute the statisitics about NIGGERS, but
> instead, make excuses for them.
No one can refute those statistics and I am not sure why you would want to.
It's best to admit it and come up with a way to fix the problem. There are
some excuses which are valid contributors, but the problem still remains.
Since the vast majority of the black population are not involved in crime, a
solution needs to focus on the perps rather than the majority of the
innocent population. Degrading names are only really warranted against
those who deserve it, not against the whole group.
Chris
Magic Carpetbomber
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> I don't really have a viable solution to propose. Do you?
The boongs came from the outback. They can always go back to it
Theodore A. Kaldis
> "CD" <c...@nospam.com.au> wrote:
>> Interesting figures. In Australia we have similar statistics with the
>> Indigenous (Aboriginal) population. While they make up approximately 2%
>> of the total population, yet they represent 21% of the prison population
>> and are involved in 15.7% of all homicides.
>> http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi210.html
>> http://www.aic.gov.au/topics/indigenous/statistics.html
>> http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2004/fig099.html
> Very true. I am sure wealth (or lack thereof) has a big hand in it too. I
> don't really have a viable solution to propose.
Nor does Geoff Clark (a white blackfella).
> Do you?
No.
--
Theodore A. Kaldis
kal...@worldnet.att.net
Jean-Paul Turcaud
You have observed nothing at all !
Neither the locust plague in VIC, neither the riots in NSW and the flies
plagues therein !
You have not observed the migration of birds leaving the Eastern coast of
Australia, and moving inland in anticipation of the terrible events at hand
... and the water in the bores of all Australia Eastern border rising up
under the fantastic pressure building in the crust !!!
Have you seen that ? ....dull sectarian bleating sheep !
You hear nothing ... you see nothing .... you blathering idols worshipping
Christian Heathens .... beuuuuulieving in your JC Spook.... while the
noise of the Pacific is rising outside
... and your Islamists mates are likewise in the Mosq, bleating to walls ,
as well as those other fools in their Synaq bleating to a book !!!!
AND THE GREAT SYDNEY QUAKE IS AT YOUR VERY DOOR NOW .... WITH AN ESTIMATED
500 000 DEAD IN LESS THAN 2 WEEKS TIME !!!!
Your attitude really comfort me in my knowledge that your JIC sects are
truly the plague of Mankind, destroying Man's natural ability to turn
towards Nature Laws.... and stand in wonder at the Cosmic Plan of the
Almighty Creator infolding under his very eyes !!!!
If you can't read the wondrous book of the Blessed One written in letters of
Stone everywhere in the relief of our Mountains & of our Plains, if you
aren't able to understand the reasons of all those diseases plaguing
Humanity ... and of course unable to cure them in no time ( as I can do
indeed using no drugs ) .... what are you good for, YOU THE JIC RABBIDS
PREEEST & MULLAHS WORTHLESS VERMINES ?????
No regards
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
True Geologist
Founder of the True Geology
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer and Legal Owner of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines
The Great Sandy Desert of Australia
* The "Golden Rule" or true story of the Discovery of the Telfer Mine
Author Bob Sheppard President of the APLA (Australian Prospectors' Union)
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html ,
* As well as Dr Don Findlay's Geological Site
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
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> Sightings 12/19/05
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> Observing the Holidays
> -- Martin E. Marty
>
> On this day after the Festival of the Nativity, let's take off from
> sighting religious news. Relax -- it's 340 days until the next "December
> wars" break out. This is a "down" week for everyone but store clerks,
> until Saturday, New Year's Eve (St. Sylvester's Day, by the way). Can we
> get "up" with some observances that will not pit us in the battle zone,
> such as over the name of December 25th?
>
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> New Orleans Police Fire 51 for Desertion
> NEW ORLEANS - Amid the chaos that ensued as Hurricane Katrina struck
> the city, dozens of police officers and civilian employees left their
> posts unexpectedly and were not heard from again.
For the most part no one knows whether they are alive
or dead
There was no mention of race in the AP story
Chairman Mao
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Hank McSpank
doesn't that mean that they weren't white? In AU if the papers report a
crime you knwo when whites did it coz they say
whites/racists/supremacists/etc. You know when the perps arent white
here because there is no mention of race in the news story.
Peter Myers
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