Silent Confidence
Hiscoming
"When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid; And went
again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But
Jesus gave him no answer." John 19:8-9
Confidence. It is expressed by many through brash actions, arrogance, and
not caring what others think or say. But in His confrontation with Pilate,
Jesus displayed an entirely different kind of confidence: He was silent.
This silence amazed Pilate, the man who represented the Roman Empire and all
its might. He had the authority to spare life or order death. He had seen
countless prisoners beg for their lives when appearing before him. Many had
argued their innocence, been defensive, or appealed for mercy. But Jesus'
silent confidence totally disarmed Pilate.
This silence was possible because Jesus was confident that nothing could
shake Him or influence Him outside of the Father's will. He wasn't
intimidated by Pilate or moved by his pomp and power. Jesus showed no fear
or worry.
In His silence, Jesus was drawing on a strength that a man like Pilate could
never understand. Jesus was so focused on the Kingdom of God that the
kingdoms of this world didn't really matter. He knew that "unless a grain of
wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it
bears much fruit" (John 12:24).
Just the evening before, Jesus had an intense time of prayer in which He
told the Father, "Not My will, but Yours be done" (Luke 22:42). He was
strong in the Spirit and prepared to do the Father's will, regardless of
what that required-though it meant going to the Cross.
Today, God wants you to have this kind of confidence. He wants you to trust
Him completely, in any situation. Refusing to be intimidated, you can be
prepared to be silent, or to speak, as the Spirit leads.
Pray:
Father, thank You for your awesome Presence in my life. I place my trust in
You. Give me boldness to stand for You. I dedicate my life to serving you!
In Jesus' name. Amen.
PG
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<snip children's fairy story>
Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are having an intelligent discussion
here, you'll only get bored and start to chew your nails in frustration. If
you really aren't tired, go away and play with all the little fundies,
there's a good chap. They're about as usual, playing hide and seek the
invisible friend.
pg
Hiscoming
"PG" <pg...@alpesprovence.net> wrote in message
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> "Hiscoming" <salv...@salvation.sal> a �crit dans le message de news:
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>
> <snip children's fairy story>
>
> Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are having an intelligent
>
> pg
There is a difference between wisdom and intelligence.
graham
"Hiscoming" <salv...@salvation.sal> wrote in message
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Ian Smith
>
> Pray:
Thanks.
You pray for me, and I'll think for the both of us.
At least one of us ought to!
regards, Ian
PG
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Excellent. Have you got one of those for people who insist on signing off
"God bless", or similar?
Hiscoming
"Ian Smith" <news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote in message
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> Hiscoming wrote:
>
>>
>> Pray:
>
> Thanks.
>
> You pray for me.
>
I will pray for you.
The DA
"Hiscoming" <salv...@salvation.sal> wrote in message
Hiscoming
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I will pray for all of you.
Isaiah 55:
10For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not
thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it
may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return
unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall
prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
12For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains
and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees
of the field shall clap their hands.
13Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier
shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for
an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
Ian Smith
> I will pray for all of you.
>
> Isaiah 55:
Excellent. Quoting all this superstitious twaddle to people here
just makes you look a complete fruitcake!
regards, Ian
Hiscoming
That is the problem I notice about you.
You never apply the word of God to your or any situation before passing your
judgement.
One will expect you that demand for proof will supply the proof that the
word has not worked for you.
Get real.
PG
I've blocked him along with DILV, there's no point wasting valuable time
over IDiots and drivel.
pg
Ian Smith
>
> That is the problem I notice about you.
I'm glad you noticed that. I've always had a problem with allowing
the facts to get in the way of my opinion. I just can't help it, but
not to worry - its obviously not a problem for you.
> You never apply the word of God to your or any situation before passing your
> judgement.
> One will expect you that demand for proof will supply the proof that the
> word has not worked for you.
> Get real.
Indeed - so let us get real:
What 'god'?
There are many hundreds of prospects here. Can you supply:
- verifiable evidence that such a god exists
- verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about,
and not some other god (known or unknown).
- verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
As far as I am concerned, there is a wealth of 'god mythology' out
there but no single scrap of evidence that any of it is 'real'.
So - Put up or Shut up time!
regards, Ian
Hiscoming
> Hiscoming wrote:
>
>>
>> That is the problem I notice about you.
>
> I'm glad you noticed that. I've always had a problem with allowing the
> facts to get in the way of my opinion. I just can't help it, but not to
> worry - its obviously not a problem for you.
>
>> You never apply the word of God to your or any situation before passing
>> your judgement.
>> One will expect you that demand for proof will supply the proof that the
>> word has not worked for you.
>> Get real.
>
> Indeed - so let us get real:
>
> What 'god'?
>
graham
"Hiscoming" <salv...@salvation.sal> wrote in message
"Iam" is the name of a pet food!
The DA
BTW I don't know if you noticed the irony in your subject line. If you're
so confident, how about staying silent about it?
Ian Smith
>>
>> What 'god'?
>>
> God our Father who art in Heaven whose name is "I AM" (Jehovah)
Good. We'll take that as a complete lack of any evidence then!
So, you've chosen the cop-out and, presumably as far as this debate
goes you've just thrown in the towel.
regards, Ian
Hiscoming
My reply was to your question.
Read your question again and read my answer.
Any further question will be answered.
Ian Smith
Good, 'cos you seem to have missed these from the very same posting:
> There are many hundreds of prospects here. Can you supply:
> - verifiable evidence that such a god exists
> - verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about, and not some other god (known or unknown).
> - verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
I shan't be holding my breath.
regards, Ian
Christopher A. Lee
Any theist who begs the question which is only asked to get him to put
up or shut up, who resorts to these copouts to avoid doing either, is
stupid, intellectually disonest, sociopathic and deserves all the
contempt he gets.
>regards, Ian
Hiscoming
>
>> There are many hundreds of prospects here. Can you supply:
>> - verifiable evidence that such a god exists
>> - verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about, and not
>> some other god (known or unknown).
>> - verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
>
> I shan't be holding my breath.
>
> regards, Ian
There is God. The true God is the Creator of heavens and earth.
His name is Jehovah ("I AM").
I will show you how you can know Him, understand Him, feel Him, see Him,
hear Him, touch Him and speak to Him
Since the godless are very shallow in their thinking, I have to start from
the scratch to wake you up.
It is through this scenario I will connect your mind with God.
Can you tell me how you know that the person you call your father is your
father?
What evidence do you have to show that the man is your father(genitor)?
I will be waiting for your answer. Please be patient for we can only get
knowledge in patience.
Ian Smith
> "Ian Smith" <news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote in message
> news:aJSdnc98qs0bvInW...@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>> There are many hundreds of prospects here. Can you supply:
>>> - verifiable evidence that such a god exists
>>> - verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about, and not
>>> some other god (known or unknown).
>>> - verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
>> I shan't be holding my breath.
>>
>> regards, Ian
>
> There is God. The true God is the Creator of heavens and earth.
> His name is Jehovah ("I AM").
>
> I will show you how you can know Him, understand Him, feel Him, see Him,
> hear Him, touch Him and speak to Him
> Since the godless are very shallow in their thinking, I have to start from
> the scratch to wake you up.
>
> It is through this scenario I will connect your mind with God.
So, you've failed, yet again, to answer the questions, instead
responding with mumbo-jumbo.
So, are we to understand that you've taken a decision to believe
what you believe with a total absence of any evidence whatsoever?
Surely not! That would be completely ludicrous - wouldn't it?
> Can you tell me how you know that the person you call your father is your
> father?
> What evidence do you have to show that the man is your father(genitor)?
> I will be waiting for your answer. Please be patient for we can only get
> knowledge in patience.
Yes, of course - no need for patience. A simple genetic test can do
that. The margin of error is so low that the result can be taken to
be beyond doubt.
In the same way, evolution is now supported by such an overwhelming
amount of evidence, from many interlocking branches of science (and
now verified by genetic analysis - a branch of science unknown when
evolution was first proposed), that it can be considered to be
scientific fact.
Now, stop wasting time - please provide the verifiable evidence you
were asked for (and you have offered to provide).
regards, Ian
graham
"Hiscoming" <salv...@salvation.sal> wrote in message
>
> "Ian Smith" <news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote in message
> news:aJSdnc98qs0bvInW...@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>
>>> There are many hundreds of prospects here. Can you supply:
>>> - verifiable evidence that such a god exists
>>> - verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about, and
>>> not some other god (known or unknown).
>>> - verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
>>
>> I shan't be holding my breath.
>>
>> regards, Ian
>
> There is God. The true God is the Creator of heavens and earth.
> His name is Jehovah ("I AM").
>
> I will show you how you can know Him, understand Him, feel Him, see Him,
> hear Him, touch Him and speak to Him
How? By taking a psychotropic drug?
Hiscoming
You have not answered my questions.
How did you arrive to decision to call that man your father and that woman
your mother?
What type of evidence did you base your this decision?
I am a sociologist - behavioural scientist- and I know with experience of
carrying out research, that there are so many methods of getting the truth.
All I am trying to do is to help you and all the other atheists reading this
dialogue to come out of bondage of demonic and shallow thinking.
After you answered the questions, I will show you the evidence of God and
how you can talk to Him and He will reply you and reveal Himself to you. You
have nothing to fear, for He loves you and He is waiting for you.
The Magpie
>
> There is God. The true God is the Creator of heavens and earth.
> His name is Jehovah ("I AM").
>
Jon Skinner
> I will pray for all of you.
Hmmm... nup, it doesn't seem to be working. I'm still an atheist.
Are you sure you're doing it right? Are you praying to the right god?
(There's quite a selection, I understand.) Are you praying hard enough?
Maybe you need to redouble your efforts.
Keep trying. I'll let you know if there's any movement at this end.
--
Jon
Ian Smith
>
> After you answered the questions, I will show you the evidence of God and
> how you can talk to Him and He will reply you and reveal Himself to you. You
> have nothing to fear, for He loves you and He is waiting for you.
Sorry, my friend. You started this thread and it is perfectly
reasonable for you to be called upon to justify your position.
You've been asked pertinent questions about the evidence you have
for your position (and you have offered to provide answers).
We are under no obligation to provide you with answers to your
questions as part of some game prior to you justifying your position.
Now, to repeat myself yet again:
Can you supply:
- verifiable evidence that such a god exists
- verifiable evidence that this is the god you are talking about,
and not some other god (known or unknown).
- verifiable evidence that we know what the 'word of god' is
regards, Ian
Ian Smith
No, but to be fair no properly constituted test has ever found any
benefit to prayer and common sense wouldn't predict any.
regards, Ian
Hiscoming
> Hiscoming wrote:
>
>>
>> After you answered the questions, I will show you the evidence of God and
>> how you can talk to Him and He will reply you and reveal Himself to you.
>> You have nothing to fear, for He loves you and He is waiting for you.
>
> Sorry, my friend. You started this thread and it is perfectly reasonable
> for you to be called upon to justify your position.
>
> You've been asked pertinent questions about the evidence you have for your
> position (and you have offered to provide answers).
>
> We are under no obligation to provide you with answers to your questions
> as part of some game prior to you justifying your position.
>
I do not understand why you refused to answer simple questions.
It is through your answers I will lead you to know God and communicate with
God our Heavenly Father.
These are the questions again:
How did you arrive to decision to call that man your father and that woman
your mother?
What type of evidence did you base your this decision?
When you are ready to know God, let me know.
This is the scientific methodology that I use to help the atheist to know
the truth.
Most atheists do not carry out any research before they arrive at any point
because of shallowness of atheism.
Ian Smith
> "Ian Smith" <news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote in message
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>> Hiscoming wrote:
... more mumbo jumbo
Oh, I do love these exchanges. It is wonderful watching you squirm.
You have now failed, after three times of asking to provide any
evidence for your assertions at all, so I think that we can now
write them off as superstition based on ancient mythology.
regards, Ian
Javi
> "Ian Smith" <news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote in message
> news:wradnXfXFpwiU4vW...@brightview.co.uk...
>> Hiscoming wrote:
>>
>>> After you answered the questions, I will show you the evidence of God and
>>> how you can talk to Him and He will reply you and reveal Himself to you.
>>> You have nothing to fear, for He loves you and He is waiting for you.
>> Sorry, my friend. You started this thread and it is perfectly reasonable
>> for you to be called upon to justify your position.
>>
>> You've been asked pertinent questions about the evidence you have for your
>> position (and you have offered to provide answers).
>>
>> We are under no obligation to provide you with answers to your questions
>> as part of some game prior to you justifying your position.
>>
>
> I do not understand why you refused to answer simple questions.
> It is through your answers I will lead you to know God and communicate with
> God our Heavenly Father.
>
> These are the questions again:
> How did you arrive to decision to call that man your father and that woman
> your mother?
> What type of evidence did you base your this decision?
I was a child are my parents. Not to talk of the multiple evidences of
that (medical records, birth certificate, friends, relatives...). Their
claim is not extraordinary, so, common evidences are acceptable. Anyway,
if evidences appeared against it, such as a DNA test, I would be willing
to change my opininion.
Now, let me ask you a question? How did you arrived to believe in your
god? Only because a book said that? Why did you choose that book instead
of other books that talk about different gods and goddess?
>
> When you are ready to know God, let me know.
> This is the scientific methodology that I use to help the atheist to know
> the truth.
> Most atheists do not carry out any research before they arrive at any point
> because of shallowness of atheism.
On the opposite. Being atheist is much more difficult than being a
believer, whatever religion you choose. I a religion you only agree what
your superiors say is good or bad, because the know the "word of God",
and you can't oppose God. An atheist must think by himself, be rational,
and, if he makes a mistake, assume the consequences, without blaming
anybody else than himself.
Ian Smith
>
> On the opposite. Being atheist is much more difficult than being a
> believer...
I don't understand.
An atheist simply has no belief in a god. How can that be more
difficult than anything else? It doesn't require any thought -
simply no belief in a god.
You don't need to have thought about it all - just have no belief in
a god.
regards, Ian
PG
I think you are missing the point. There is no supernatural safety net. No
comfort zone 'it's ok we've only got to pray for forgiveness, and
everlasting life in paradise is waiting for us'. No father figure to watch
over us. No peer group comforts (at least not to the same extent as for the
religious). No guide books to behaviour - we have to arrive at a moral
framework by other means. The chilling reality of our insignificance, our
mortality and the oblivion that faces us all. By way of compensation that
knowledge means that we are very lucky in another way, to be able to see
things as they truly are. I wouldn't have it any other way. But it would be
a lot easier of course to live in the fantasy world that the likes of
Christianity provides.
pg
Javi
you are fully responsible of your decisions. An wheter you are wrong or
right, you can't expect any reward/punishment. That's much more
difficult that following some weird rules somebody thinks are 'God's word'.
sdm_sax
> When you are ready to know God, let me know.
Been there - it didn't happen.
> This is the scientific methodology that I use to help the atheist to know
> the truth.
What?
> Most atheists do not carry out any research before they arrive at any point
> because of shallowness of atheism.
And where do you get that piece of misinformation? In my own
experience the vast majority of atheists I've come across have done
quite a bit or research. Often they grew up in religious households.
We often get religious people coming in here assuming we've never
picked up a Bible or been to church. It's completely false. Most
atheists have experienced religion(s) and read scripture and books
about god(s). It is often because the claims of religion and
scripture don't hold any water that people move away from organised
religion. Some turn to other things whilst agreat many have realised
the chruch gets it wrong.
Christopher A. Lee
<news0807R...@orrery.e4ward.com> wrote:
>Javi wrote:
>
>>
>> On the opposite. Being atheist is much more difficult than being a
>> believer...
>
>I don't understand.
They can't think outside the box and project their own insecurities -
which they don't understand are part of the same box.
[..]
>regards, Ian
Ian Smith
>
> I think you are missing the point. There is no supernatural safety net. No
> comfort zone 'it's ok we've only got to pray for forgiveness, and
> everlasting life in paradise is waiting for us'. No father figure to watch
> over us. No peer group comforts (at least not to the same extent as for the
> religious). No guide books to behaviour - we have to arrive at a moral
> framework by other means. The chilling reality of our insignificance, our
> mortality and the oblivion that faces us all. By way of compensation that
> knowledge means that we are very lucky in another way, to be able to see
> things as they truly are. I wouldn't have it any other way. But it would be
> a lot easier of course to live in the fantasy world that the likes of
> Christianity provides.
No, I'm not missing the point at all. I understand the point you
both make and I agreed with almost all you say.
Javi said:
> Being atheist is much more difficult than being a believer.
You can't make any such generalisation about 'atheists'. It may be
true of most, but it isn't necessary to be an atheist.
You can be an atheist and never have thought about it all.
I'd argue that religion just adds worthless baggage and
contradiction to the workings of your moral compass.
regards, Ian
Ian Smith
> On 2 Dec, 21:56, "Hiscoming" <salvat...@salvation.sal> wrote:
>
>> When you are ready to know God, let me know.
>
> Been there - it didn't happen.
>
>> This is the scientific methodology that I use to help the atheist to know
>> the truth.
>
> What?
>
>> Most atheists do not carry out any research before they arrive at any point
>> because of shallowness of atheism.
>
> And where do you get that piece of misinformation? In my own
> experience the vast majority of atheists I've come across have done
> quite a bit or research.
... go to school, have to attend religious knowledge classes, have
an act of christian worship every day, go the Sunday school...
regards, Ian