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ironjustice

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Feb 25, 2011, 4:25:55 AM2/25/11
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http://www.cbc.ca/afternoonedition/2011/02/17/doctor-weighs-in-on-so-called-liberation-therapy/

Doctor weighs in on so-called Liberation Therapy
It's not unusual to hear from people in Saskatchewan with Multiple
Sclerosis who've had the so-called liberation procedure. Guest host
Amanda Marcotte speaks with a doctor who has MS and who had the
treatment.


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evilzona

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Feb 25, 2011, 9:14:21 AM2/25/11
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On Feb 25, 2:25 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@rock.com> wrote:
> http://www.cbc.ca/afternoonedition/2011/02/17/doctor-weighs-in-on-so-...

>
> Doctor weighs in on so-called Liberation Therapy
> It's not unusual to hear from people in Saskatchewan with Multiple
> Sclerosis who've had the so-called liberation procedure. Guest host
> Amanda Marcotte speaks with a doctor who has MS and who had the
> treatment.
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

appears CCSVI is hit or miss, just like everything else.
It appears to improve circulation with some , something like that
could be misinterpreted as MS symptom improvement.
The problem is, if blocked arteries is truly the cause of ms,
unblocking them
is obviously not the solution.
Unclogging a water supply wont bring the dead vegetation back to life.
We're hoping
that new vegetation can take its place. But the soil might now be too
depleted and dry.

BigArtie

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Feb 25, 2011, 6:14:01 PM2/25/11
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"evilzona" <davei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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nice analogy


Michael B

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Mar 3, 2011, 6:49:34 AM3/3/11
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On Feb 25, 6:14 pm, "BigArtie" <XXX@.com> wrote:
> "evilzona" <daveino...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I disagree with the analogy.
And am disappointed to be the one to change the peace and quiet.
The characterization was wrong.
It isn't arteries that are blocked, it is the primary veins. And
indeed,
not all MS patients have the restricted flow.

A more appropriate analogy is called for.
Plenty of examples where something is good, but more is not better.
Since a soil analogy was made, I'd see it as a stream in California.
Water delivered to what is otherwise desert terrain, all of a sudden
you can grow most anything. But the nutrients that came with that
water build up. Such as iron, from iron-rich areas further upstream.
So the iron accumulates and starts causing a toxicity instead of the
previous vitality.
Mentioning iron because that is being seen as a possible culprit in
the CCSVI issue. And really quite surprised that "Iron Man" didn't
make a big pitch about it, unless he doesn't realize.

Now, I really don't know much about this issue, because it's been
over six months ago that I looked into it, a lot may have happened
since then. So if I'm wrong on what I've said, just let me know.

As you all know by now, I view the issue as the immune system
not having adequate signal of what it needs to attack, and with
the molecular mimicry of the wheat protein and the nerve sheath,
I feel that the issue is one of enhancing signal level, accomplished
with LDN.

evilzona

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Mar 4, 2011, 9:24:20 AM3/4/11
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veins..arteries...who cares.
The point I was trying to make is that, just like SCT,
ccsvi is quickly becoming a cause for disappointment in the MS
arena.
The only difference is it isnt something you can fill a needle with
and inject into your veins(arteries?) while your wallet gets lighter.
Every one of us is looking for that magic bullet, and every once in a
while
something comes along that seems to be 'it'.
Recognizing the difference between something that could simply help,
and
something that claims to 'cure' you back to normal is the key.
Many of the (ex)doofuses that were stuck to this forum (like that
sticky crap
that you accidently put your hand in, and say 'ew, what the f was
that?!)
had it in their tiny brains that LDN fell into that 'cure' category,
and
not the 'help' category.
I'm not disappointed at all, its quite refreshing to not have to read
the
repetitive redundant ramblings that once permeated this forum.
The forum is quite pleasant now, carry on....... :0)

Michael B

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:34:31 PM3/4/11
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On Mar 4, 9:24 am, evilzona <daveino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Many of the (ex)doofuses that were stuck to this forum (like that
> sticky crap
> that you accidently put your hand in, and say 'ew, what the f was
> that?!)
> had it in their tiny brains that LDN fell into that 'cure' category,
> and
> not the 'help' category.

I was aware of some of it, and stepped back from it,
stayed elsewhere. Anybody that doesn't subscribe to the
"Until there's a cure, there's low dose naltrexone" dictum,
I don't have any interest in changing their mind.

evilzona

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Mar 7, 2011, 9:21:13 AM3/7/11
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..neither do I.
Especially some of the characters I've seen on this forum..

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