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Tony Houghton

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Apr 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/19/99
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Right, we've had a children's TV thread, now lets have a children's
books thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes these. Although
I'm not personally too brain fogged to cope with adult ones, I like
the old children's ones now and again; they're kind of soothing, like
being tucked up in the "grey chair" [1] with tomato soup for lunch
when you're ill.

I find I've gone off Enid Blyton now, but I still love the Just
William books (and I enjoyed it when they came back in fashion for a
while), and Jennings. On a whim, while I was ordering a tecchy
computer book from Amazon UK last night [2], I searched for Anthony
Buckeridge and found a ncie treasure trove of Jennings books.
Brilliant! I haven't ordered any yet, because I've been a bit
concerned about the amount I'm spending lately with a holiday coming
up (that's another story), but when I've got over all that I'll order
4 or 5 all at once and be in schoolboy heaven for a while :-). The
last time I had access to so many of those was when I was a student in
Bristol and had 4 libraries within cycling distance which hadn't yet
"modernised" (ie thrown out all the best books).

[1] We had a chair where the bottom could be folded out to support the
legs, but I can't remember whether the back went down to turn it into
a bed. It was our ritual furniture for ill people.

[2] As I write, I've just remembered that Janie (IIRC) has some sort
of concession thing going with them, sorry I forgot. Or does it only
apply to ME books anyway?

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cary charles

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Tony Houghton <to...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hmmm . . .
Well, my mum used to love reading to me - *very* special moments those were!
Possibly our favourite was written by S. A. Wakefield and called
'Bottersnikes and Gumbles' - I still have a copy and the blurb on the back
says it all really, a real hoot:

"Deep in the Australian bush, there are some very unusual creatures -
Bottersnikes and Gumbles. Bottersnikes are ugly. They have green faces with
slanting eyes, noses like cheese graters, and mean little mouths. They have
wrinkly skin, and their ears turn red whenever they are angry, which is
often. They are also probably the laziest creatures in the whole world. They
are too slothful to dig burrows, like rabbits, or to build nests, like
birds, so they find their homes readymade in rubbish heaps among rusty old
tins and pots and pans.

Gumbles are little creatures who love to paddle in ponds (they can't
actually swim) and are hopeless when they go all giggly.

When some Bottersnikes caught some nice round little Gumbles they discovered
they could squeeze them to any shape they liked without hurting them, and
that if they were pressed very hard they flattened out like pancakes and
couldn't get back to their proper shapes without help.

'Useful' growled the Bottersnike king. 'We can pop 'em into jam tins and
squash em down hard so's they can't get away, and when I want some work done
they will be ready and waiting to do it."

But of course, the gumbles were *much* too clever to stay stuck in those
pesky tins for long!

Ah that was worth a load of cosy giggles, that book. (cover price was 50p -
ah them were the days! )

We also loved Mrs. Pepperpot and a really randy ginea pig by the name of
'Olga da Polga' - sadly not in print any more otherwise I would rush out and
buy a copy just for the memory of it ;o)

Precious moments . . .
BFN,
Cary ;o)

Heather Knowles

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Apr 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/19/99
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In article <7fg8e5$abr$3...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, cary charles <cary@charle
sc.spamless.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>
>Hmmm . . .
>Well, my mum used to love reading to me - *very* special moments those were!
>Possibly our favourite was written by S. A. Wakefield and called
>'Bottersnikes and Gumbles' - I still have a copy and the blurb on the back
>says it all really, a real hoot:

Hey, I read that, too - I still call my son 'Gumble' as a term of
endearment!

>We also loved Mrs. Pepperpot and a really randy ginea pig by the name of
>'Olga da Polga' - sadly not in print any more otherwise I would rush out and
>buy a copy just for the memory of it ;o)

Written by Michael Bond, who wrote Paddington!

I was a big Blyton fan (sorry!), especially of a book called 'The Boy
Next Door', which featured a houseboat - I always wanted a houseboat! I
also loved Elinor M. Brent-Dyer (the Chalet School books), Anthony
Buckeridge (Jennings), and Arthur Ransome (the Swallows and Amazons
series). In fact, I still have a lot of them, and one of my hobbies is
collecting girls' school stories (they cost a fortune these days, unless
you find them in charity shops!).

--
lotsa luv, Heather xxxx

Tony Houghton

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> I was a big Blyton fan (sorry!), especially of a book called 'The Boy
> Next Door', which featured a houseboat - I always wanted a houseboat! I
> also loved Elinor M. Brent-Dyer (the Chalet School books), Anthony
> Buckeridge (Jennings), and Arthur Ransome (the Swallows and Amazons
> series). In fact, I still have a lot of them, and one of my hobbies is
> collecting girls' school stories (they cost a fortune these days, unless
> you find them in charity shops!).

Yes, I loved The Boy Next Door. It's been rereleased as part of the
"Riddle" series, along with some of her other one off adventures,
which have been slightly rewritten so they all have the same
characters.

Another really good one was about some kids who found a treasure map
and saved their grandparents' home from being sold to evil developers.

And I like girls' comics like Bunty, they were so much better than the
boys' ones. My sister and I still used to get a couple delivered until
a few years ago when we decided to cancel all the papers because they
were unreliable at delivering and we didn't really have time to read
them.

chris

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Apr 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/19/99
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In article <slrn7hmvs...@tonyh.tcp.co.uk>, Tony Houghton
<to...@tcp.co.uk> writes

>Right, we've had a children's TV thread, now lets have a children's
>books thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes these. Although
>I'm not personally too brain fogged to cope with adult ones, I like
>the old children's ones now and again; they're kind of soothing, like
>being tucked up in the "grey chair" [1] with tomato soup for lunch
>when you're ill.

Tried that, but even on big Brian the Brain Frog days, I can't get my
mind down to the level of the books I used to read as a child. I used to
love the Billy Bunter books, Enid Blyton, most of the school based ones
(especially Mike and Psmith by P G Wodehouse), and the horsey type (Pat
Smythe IIRC was top of the list on these).
Sad, but I just can't re-read them any more.
--
chris

Be wary of strong drink - it can make you shoot at tax collectors
- and miss
(Time Enough For Love, R Heinlein)

Vernon Webster

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Tony Houghton <to...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> Right, we've had a children's TV thread, now lets have a children's
> books thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes these.

I'm afraid I can't join in much as I don't read much that
isn't on this screen or in my computer magazine. Two books that I have
enjoyed as an adult are 'Wind in the Willows' and 'Alice in Wonderland'.
Apparently there is a lot of symbolism in the later, eg., the painting
of roses from white to red (I think that's the right way round) is meant
to represent the roses of Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Vernon.

Jackie Fill

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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>Tony Houghton <to...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
>Right, we've had a children's TV thread, now lets have a children's
>books thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes these. Although
>I'm not personally too brain fogged to cope with adult ones, I like
>the old children's ones now and again; they're kind of soothing <snip>

One book from my childhood which I have read and enjoyed many times is
"Little Women".

The only book I still have from my *much* younger days is called "Into The
Happy Glade" - a mighty tome all about a community of birds and animals that
have to move to a new location before developers move in. (Sounds riveting,
doesn't it? Bet you all want to borrow it! :o)

I re-read it a few years ago out of curiosity, and enjoyed it! I remember my
dad bought it for me to read when I had measles. Considering it's a small
child's story there are amazingly long words in it! Was the reading standard
higher in those days do you think?

I particularly enjoy reading out loud the stories in the 'My Naughty Little
Sister' series by Dorothy Edwards, which were written in the 1950's but
which I only discovered when Joanna was small. I recently bought the
compilation in hard back, although Jo's too old for them now!

David likes the ghastly R.L.Stine Goosebumps books, which I think are
dreadful, really badly written and hard to read out loud. (Bet they've made
him rich, though). Jo
likes The Ghosts of Fear Street series, also by Stine.

Jackie

Janie Thomson

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Tony Houghton <to...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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> [2] As I write, I've just remembered that Janie (IIRC) has some sort
> of concession thing going with them, sorry I forgot. Or does it only
> apply to ME books anyway?

It applies to anything <g>. If you go to the Amazon search page from my
page I get 10% commission if you subsequently buy something. If it is a
book I have specifically recommended and provided a direct link to, I get
15%. You get up to 20% off in either case (but you would get that ordering
from Amazon anyway!).

I don't want upscm people to feel pressured into ordering from my page, I
just thought that if I was recommending books anyway I might as well provide
the link. I haven't earned anything yet. <sniff> But I didn't really
expect to. If you're ordering something anyway and can be bothered to do it
through my page, feel free, I'll be delighted :o) There's a link to the
search page from the bottom of the ME homepage, or follow the link to the
books page for specifically ME related books. But don't feel guilty if you
forget, or just choose to order directly from Amazon's page.

--
Janie
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katya robin

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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chris wrote in message ...

>
>Tried that, but even on big Brian the Brain Frog days, I can't get my
>mind down to the level of the books I used to read as a child

I'm just about managing teenager's books
the livewire section form the women's press is quite good.
- issue based stuff
i enjoyed ' Junk '
and short thrillers
i just read Ripley's ' That Angel Look'
which is about an attack by a neo nazi group called web 18 on an Asian swat
shop

what is the nazi link with 18?
as the group that claimed the Brixton bomb was combat 18.

Btw I find these things interesting cos I'm a 2nd generation cultural-Jewish
emigree
my dad came over just before the war

as a kid one of my favourite books was The Silver Sword

katya robin

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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>We also loved Mrs. Pepperpot
>- sadly not in print any more otherwise I would rush out and
>buy a copy just for the memory of it ;o)

o yes it is

cary charles

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <7fg8e5$abr$3...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, cary charles <cary@charle
> sc.spamless.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >Hmmm . . .
> >Well, my mum used to love reading to me - *very* special moments those
were!
> >Possibly our favourite was written by S. A. Wakefield and called
> >'Bottersnikes and Gumbles' - I still have a copy and the blurb on the
back
> >says it all really, a real hoot:
>
> Hey, I read that, too - I still call my son 'Gumble' as a term of
> endearment!

How amazing!!!!! I never expected anyone else to have read it!!!! Or even
heard of it for that matter.

>
> >We also loved Mrs. Pepperpot and a really randy ginea pig by the name of

> >'Olga da Polga' - sadly not in print any more otherwise I would rush out


and
> >buy a copy just for the memory of it ;o)
>

> Written by Michael Bond, who wrote Paddington

ah, now at least I know who I am looking for ;o)
I will have to do some hunting!
BFN,
Cary :O)

cary charles

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <7fg8e5$abr$3...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, cary charles <cary@charle
> sc.spamless.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >Hmmm . . .
> >Well, my mum used to love reading to me - *very* special moments those
were!
> >Possibly our favourite was written by S. A. Wakefield and called
> >'Bottersnikes and Gumbles' -

I also just remembered that I used to love the 'Hardy Boys' books - but only
after the TV series with Parker Stevenson, who used to . . . . um, interest
me ;o)
Yum yum!
BFN,
Cary ;O)

cary charles

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Janie Thomson <Ja...@wyndford.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Tony Houghton <to...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrn7hmvs...@tonyh.tcp.co.uk...
> > [2] As I write, I've just remembered that Janie (IIRC) has some sort
> > of concession thing going with them, sorry I forgot. Or does it only
> > apply to ME books anyway?
>
> It applies to anything <g>. If you go to the Amazon search page from my
> page I get 10% commission if you subsequently buy something. If it is a
> book I have specifically recommended and provided a direct link to, I get
> 15%. You get up to 20% off in either case (but you would get that
ordering
> from Amazon anyway!).
>
> I don't want upscm people to feel pressured into ordering from my page, I
> just thought that if I was recommending books anyway I might as well
provide
> the link. I haven't earned anything yet. <sniff> But I didn't really
> expect to. If you're ordering something anyway and can be bothered to do
it
> through my page, feel free, I'll be delighted :o) There's a link to the
> search page from the bottom of the ME homepage, or follow the link to the
> books page for specifically ME related books. But don't feel guilty if
you
> forget, or just choose to order directly from Amazon's page

Ah Janie, this cracks me up. I too am associated with Amazon.Com. I was
quite a while back actually, but still have never got anything from it. Not
even a hit let alone a purchase. Still, I get those lovely emails saying how
I haven't had any success so far, and that I should make them more prominent
on my pages with bigger logos etc. (yeah, right!!!!!)
To be fair though, I hardly promote it since I don't want it to take from
the character of the site. Might be a tad more obvious in the new site
design, coming soon. There will be a quirky Photoshop section and also a
help section about depression, CFS / ME and coming out. Obviously, I will
run the CFS / ME stuff by you all first - as soon as it is online you can
vet it and smack my wrists if I get it wrong ;O)

BFN,
cary ;o)

cary charles

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Jackie Fill <jac...@the-barns.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>

> One book from my childhood which I have read and enjoyed many times is
> "Little Women".

Ah, cannot say i have read the book, but I got all excited about the film,
but hated it on seeing it finally. Everyone was *so* nice and in their place
somehow. All girls had to be 'nice' girls etc. Struck me as very repressed.
I felt like I wanted to slap them just to give them some depth and reality
:o) I only survived the first third of it, mind you.
Heeee heeeee!
>
BFN,
Cary (who would never have slapped any of them really ;o)

Tony Houghton

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In <7fhfa9$klj$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Jackie Fill <jac...@the-barns.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> I particularly enjoy reading out loud the stories in the 'My Naughty Little
> Sister' series by Dorothy Edwards, which were written in the 1950's but
> which I only discovered when Joanna was small. I recently bought the
> compilation in hard back, although Jo's too old for them now!

Ooh, I loved "My Naughty Little Sister". Remember the one where she
cut up a wedding dress because she loved the way the scissors went
scrr scrr?

Tony Houghton

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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In <7fhv2f$8q7$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, katya robin <k...@katyarobin.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> what is the nazi link with 18?
> as the group that claimed the Brixton bomb was combat 18.

Adolf Hitler's initials are the 1st and 8th letters of the alphabet.

What a choice I've got, sharing initials with him or a first name with
a smarmy PM :-/.

katya robin

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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>I also just remembered that I used to love the 'Hardy Boys' books -

I just adore William Wegman's Hardy Boys with weimeraner dogs as all the
characters

Jodi

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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The children's books that I find work well as an adult too is Susan
Cooper's "The Dark is Rising" series. When I was a kid, it was 5
kid-sized books. In the early 90s, they packaged it all in one volume.

It's about some kids who get caught up in a series of celtic fairy/
otherworld type adventures.

I also re-read some Alan Garner books last year. "Red Shift" was
actually pretty adult in its theme.

Jodi

katya robin

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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Tony Houghton .freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> what is the nazi link with 18?
>> as the group that claimed the Brixton bomb was combat 18.
>
>Adolf Hitler's initials are the 1st and 8th letters of the alphabet.
>
"i knew that" like asian St Jean on Goodness Gracious Me.

I feel stupid how could I completely forget something I knew?
colander brain or wot not?

Jackie Fill

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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cary charles wrote in message <7fi3fv$cq$5...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
>Jackie Fill wrote

>> One book from my childhood which I have read and enjoyed many times is
>> "Little Women".
>
>Ah, cannot say i have read the book, but I got all excited about the film,
>but hated it on seeing it finally.<snip>I felt like I wanted to slap them

just to give them some depth and reality


I hated the most recent film - it was, as you discovered, very shallow
compared with the book. You don't get to know what they're thinking, why
they're doing things, you just don't get to *know* the characters.

I thought the book was very inspirational when I first read it, and I would
go as far as to say that it helped to shape my moral values at a very
impressionable age!

I related to the character Josephine March who was everything I aspired to
as a teenager : a tomboy - headstrong, reckless and wild; an authoress;
devoted to her family and wooed by Laurie (the boy next door) who was
extremely rich and sounded divine etc. etc. :o)

Worth a read, in my humble opinion! I've been trying to persuade Joanna to
read it, but with no luck so far!

Jackie :o)

katya robin

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Apr 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/21/99
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on a less nostalgic note:
this is a new golden age of children's books
there are so many brilliant kids books in the last few years:^)

< first signs of stationographophillia progressing >

I just unpacked a lovely big parcel of Dorling Kindersley Lego books
- for Cherry's birthday - honest
I went a bit mad and bought the whole set
The Ultimate Lego Book
and 3 Lego adventure puzzle stories

and then there's the new Lego CD Roms on order
at WHSmuts 3 for 40pounds.

I had a big chuck out of the pencil, biro, rubber, sharpener, etc
collections
and am attempting to resist excessive restocking :^(

cary charles

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cary charles

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Jackie Fill <jac...@the-barns.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> cary charles wrote in message <7fi3fv$cq$5...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >
> >Jackie Fill wrote
> >> One book from my childhood which I have read and enjoyed many times is
> >> "Little Women".
> >
> >Ah, cannot say i have read the book, but I got all excited about the
film,
> >but hated it on seeing it finally.<snip>I felt like I wanted to slap them
> just to give them some depth and reality
>
>
> I hated the most recent film - it was, as you discovered, very shallow
> compared with the book. You don't get to know what they're thinking, why
> they're doing things, you just don't get to *know* the characters.
>
> I thought the book was very inspirational when I first read it, and I
would
> go as far as to say that it helped to shape my moral values at a very
> impressionable age

snip


Hmmm. Guess I was inspired by The Exorcist at that impressionable age :o)
No seriously, I had the feeling the latest film did not do the book justice.
BFN,
cary :o)

Vernon Webster

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Apr 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/22/99
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Jackie Fill <jac...@the-barns.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> I hated the most recent film - it was, as you discovered, very shallow
> compared with the book. You don't get to know what they're thinking, why
> they're doing things, you just don't get to *know* the characters.

The older black and white 'Little Women' was one of
Carole's favourite films and we recently sat down to watch the modern
version. Like you we found it very shallow and just down right boring so
switched off after about quarter of an hour.

Vernon's recommendation for next week is the BBC drama "A
rather English Marriage" starring Albert Finney, Tom Courtney and Joanna
Lumley. It's on Sunday night BBC 1 at 22.05. Its gently paced (slow),
humourous and full of humanity.

Vernon

Jackie Fill

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Apr 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/22/99
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Vernon Webster wrote in message
<1dqojbr.91u...@the-spa.demon.co.uk>...

> The older black and white 'Little Women' was one of
>Carole's favourite films

Yes, I remember enjoying the old version, but I haven't seen it for years.
Where are all the repeats when you want them? :o)

>Vernon's recommendation for next week is the BBC drama "A
>rather English Marriage" starring Albert Finney, Tom Courtney and Joanna
>Lumley.

Surely that was on recently, wasn't it?

Jackie


Vernon Webster

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Apr 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/23/99
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Jackie Fill <jac...@the-barns.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >Vernon's recommendation for next week is the BBC drama "A
> >rather English Marriage" starring Albert Finney, Tom Courtney and
> >JoannaLumley.

> Surely that was on recently, wasn't it?

Yes but it's won some awards and I think they're making the most of the
publicity.

Vernon

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