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Goromoff

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May 30, 2009, 3:44:19 AM5/30/09
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This is a phrase that I grew up with and still use. I know what it means, or
do I?

As I grew up in the mining village, populated by people of all
'nationalities- Geordies, Scots, Lancs, Welsh, Yorkies and so on, this was a
much used word.

"Stop wittling woman" or "stop worrying".

'He wittled on and on about it' could easily have used the word 'prattling or
jabbering or chattering' to the same effect.

I've looked up, or tried to look up, 'wittling/to wittle/wittled' but cannot
find it.

Can anyone help - am I simply misusing the word or is so local that it hasn't
reached the dictionaries yet?

Jackie

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May 30, 2009, 4:07:06 AM5/30/09
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>
I have heard a similar expression which is `wittering` Goro but don't know
anything about it.
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wtwjgc (Joe)

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May 30, 2009, 4:13:05 AM5/30/09
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OED has 'witling'
A petty wit (see WIT n. 9, 10); one who fancies himself a wit; a
pretender to wit (see WIT n. 5, 7); one who utters light or feeble
witticisms.

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Bernadette

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May 30, 2009, 4:23:58 AM5/30/09
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Jackie wrote:

Good morning Goro. Could it be "whittling" which was a word I heard used as
a child. It is to cut small bits or pare shavings from (say) a piece of
wood. It referred to someone who kept going on about something and just
kept wearing away at it. See: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whittling

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MCC

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May 30, 2009, 4:24:46 AM5/30/09
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I recognise 'wittering on' and I recognise 'whittling' as in carving a piece
of wood but I've not heard of 'wittle' before.

P.S. Neither has my spell checker because it has just underlined the word in
red <LOL>
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MCC
30/05/2009 09:24:46

wtwjgc (Joe)

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May 30, 2009, 4:29:37 AM5/30/09
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That's also the one I know. OED has this for 'witter':-
colloq. (orig. Sc. and dial.). Also whitter. [Perh. a variant of WHITTER
v.: cf. WHITTER n.1] To chatter or mutter; to grumble; to speak with
annoying lengthiness on trivial matters. Occas. trans. Freq. const. on.
Hence {sm}wittering ppl. a.

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Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 8:50:55 AM5/30/09
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Goromoff put fingers to keyboard and typed :

From the *Oxford English Dictionary*:

*whittle, v.2*

II. 4. intr. To worry or fret. Occas. trans. dial.

1880 N. & Q. 6 Mar. 205/2 When I was a boy my mother daily used this
word to express fidgetiness or uneasiness. ‘What are you whittling
about?’ seems to ring in my ears at this moment. 1913 D. H. LAWRENCE
Sons & Lovers viii. 202 ‘How do you think I'm going to manage?’ ‘Well,
it won't make it any better to whittle about it.’ 1984 Daily Tel. 23
Oct. 10/3 ‘I'm whittled to death about the future of the mining
industry.’ These, or words like these, are attributed to Mr. Michael
Eaton, the new character in the long-runnning serial story of the
mining dispute.
Hence whittled (-()ld) ppl. a.; also whittled-down; whittling vbl.
n., (a) the action of the verb (also attrib.); (b) concr. (in pl.)
fragments cut off in whittling, shavings; also fig.; whittling ppl. a.,
that whittles, addicted to whittling. Also whittler, one who whittles,
or is addicted to whittling as an idle trick.

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Goromoff

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May 30, 2009, 9:27:55 AM5/30/09
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Gareth <gar...@homedotcom.invalid> wrote in news:mn.f33e7d95520bd89b.9103
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> Also whittler, one who whittles,
> or is addicted to whittling as an idle trick.
>
> --
>

thanks folks. Most kind of you to go to the trouble. I had found both
'witter' and 'whittle' in the word book, but neither seemed to fit, so I was
a little concerned for my sanity!!!!!!

But, yes, whittling does now and I shall make the necessary spelling
correction and continue using it.

Thank you.

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 9:29:52 AM5/30/09
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Goromoff put fingers to keyboard and typed :
>> Also whittler, one who whittles,
>> or is addicted to whittling as an idle trick.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> thanks folks. Most kind of you to go to the trouble. I had found both
> 'witter' and 'whittle' in the word book, but neither seemed to fit, so I was
> a little concerned for my sanity!!!!!!
>
> But, yes, whittling does now and I shall make the necessary spelling
> correction and continue using it.
>
> Thank you.

Stop whittling and get on with it. ;-)

Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 10:56:26 AM5/30/09
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Goromoff wrote:

>
> I've looked up, or tried to look up, 'wittling/to wittle/wittled' but cannot
> find it.

Partridge's Dictionary of Slang, 8-th edition: 'To talk at length to
little point; to talk nonsense [...] later C.20. Heard in E. Midlands
[...]'

It's not in the Shorter 4-th edition.

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Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 10:59:45 AM5/30/09
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Gareth wrote:

> From the *Oxford English Dictionary*:
>
> *whittle, v.2*

No aitch in Goromoff's word.

gruffydd

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May 30, 2009, 11:32:12 AM5/30/09
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try 'whittering' [spelling?] that is a word


shaz

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May 30, 2009, 11:35:39 AM5/30/09
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"Goromoff" <goro...@godknows.com> wrote in message
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I grew up in Lincolnshire and it was used in mine childhood and I still use
it today. Meaning stop worrying

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Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 11:58:40 AM5/30/09
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Frederick Williams sauntered in and penned :

>> From the *Oxford English Dictionary*:
>>
>> *whittle, v.2*
>
> No aitch in Goromoff's word.

I'm quite aware of that which is why he couldn't find it! i.e. he spelt
it wrong!

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 12:00:12 PM5/30/09
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shaz penned the following:

>> This is a phrase that I grew up with and still use. I know what it means,
>> or
>> do I?
>>
>> As I grew up in the mining village, populated by people of all
>> 'nationalities- Geordies, Scots, Lancs, Welsh, Yorkies and so on, this was
>> a
>> much used word.
>>
>> "Stop wittling woman" or "stop worrying".
>>
>> 'He wittled on and on about it' could easily have used the word 'prattling
>> or
>> jabbering or chattering' to the same effect.
>>
>> I've looked up, or tried to look up, 'wittling/to wittle/wittled' but
>> cannot
>> find it.
>>
>> Can anyone help - am I simply misusing the word or is so local that it
>> hasn't
>> reached the dictionaries yet?
>
> I grew up in Lincolnshire and it was used in mine childhood and I still use
> it today. Meaning stop worrying

My relatives in Bedfordshire & Northamptonshire still use it.

noreen @ home

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May 30, 2009, 12:02:16 PM5/30/09
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"Jackie" <Jack...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I would have said "wittering" too Jackie as in stop "wittering woman ";-)))
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to you ( but not yet) ;-)


Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 12:28:49 PM5/30/09
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noreen @ home sauntered in and penned :

>> I have heard a similar expression which is `wittering` Goro but don't know
>> anything about it.
>
> I would have said "wittering" too Jackie as in stop "wittering woman ";-)

The 'Witterings' are coastal villages in West Sussex, east of Hayling
Island.

East Wittering and West Wittering. ;-)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4DSGI_en-GBGB304GB304&q=West+Wittering&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=uk&ei=610hSoaDCpm7jAfnwJy-Bg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

Goromoff

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May 30, 2009, 12:49:46 PM5/30/09
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Gareth <gar...@homedotcom.invalid> wrote in news:mn.f3fc7d9502302ebe.9103
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> My relatives in Bedfordshire & Northamptonshire still use it.
>

thanks Shaz and Gareth. It's obviously a colloquialism that's used only in
certain areas.
Back to me story then, and change the word back to how I'd written it!

wtwjgc (Joe)

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May 30, 2009, 12:55:33 PM5/30/09
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Wittering is the village next to Burghley (of horse trial fame)

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Graham

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May 30, 2009, 1:04:22 PM5/30/09
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 16:55:33 GMT, wtwjgc (Joe),
<news:9ydUl.35836$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com> expounded this
theory:

> Wittering is the village next to Burghley (of horse trial fame)

And RAF Wittering is "The home of the Harrier" :)

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Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 1:20:10 PM5/30/09
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Goromoff wrote in message :

>> My relatives in Bedfordshire & Northamptonshire still use it.
>>
>
> thanks Shaz and Gareth. It's obviously a colloquialism that's used only in
> certain areas.
> Back to me story then, and change the word back to how I'd written it!

But spelt with the *H* ;-)

shaz

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May 30, 2009, 2:18:47 PM5/30/09
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"Gareth" <gar...@homedotcom.invalid> wrote in message
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> Goromoff wrote in message :
>>> My relatives in Bedfordshire & Northamptonshire still use it.
>>>
>>
>> thanks Shaz and Gareth. It's obviously a colloquialism that's used only
>> in
>> certain areas.
>> Back to me story then, and change the word back to how I'd written it!
>
> But spelt with the *H* ;-)
It it here under D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/content/articles/2005/08/19/voices05_derbyshire_dictionary_feature.shtml
Dunna wittle!
Don't worry about it.


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Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 2:28:03 PM5/30/09
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Gareth wrote:
>
> Frederick Williams sauntered in and penned :
> >> From the *Oxford English Dictionary*:
> >>
> >> *whittle, v.2*
> >
> > No aitch in Goromoff's word.
>
> I'm quite aware of that which is why he couldn't find it! i.e. he spelt
> it wrong!

I'm not so sure: see my other post.

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 3:48:44 PM5/30/09
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shaz penned the following:

>>>> My relatives in Bedfordshire & Northamptonshire still use it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> thanks Shaz and Gareth. It's obviously a colloquialism that's used only in
>>> certain areas.
>>> Back to me story then, and change the word back to how I'd written it!
>>
>> But spelt with the *H* ;-)
>
> It it here under D
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/content/articles/2005/08/19/voices05_derbyshire_dictionary_feature.shtml
> Dunna wittle!
> Don't worry about it.

It's not the first time the BBC has made a spelling mistake. ;-)

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 3:52:29 PM5/30/09
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Frederick Williams penned the following:

>> I've looked up, or tried to look up, 'wittling/to wittle/wittled' but
>> cannot
>> find it.
>
> Partridge's Dictionary of Slang, 8-th edition: 'To talk at length to
> little point; to talk nonsense [...] later C.20. Heard in E. Midlands
> [...]'
>
> It's not in the Shorter 4-th edition.

But it is in the OED
http://dictionary.oed.com/

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 3:54:58 PM5/30/09
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Frederick Williams wrote in message :

>> I've looked up, or tried to look up, 'wittling/to wittle/wittled' but
>> cannot
>> find it.
>
> Partridge's Dictionary of Slang, 8-th edition: 'To talk at length to
> little point; to talk nonsense [...] later C.20. Heard in E. Midlands
> [...]'
>
> It's not in the Shorter 4-th edition.

Full title:
The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English

Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 4:47:01 PM5/30/09
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Gareth wrote:
>
> Frederick Williams wrote in message :
> >
> > Partridge's Dictionary of Slang, 8-th edition: 'To talk at length to
> > little point; to talk nonsense [...] later C.20. Heard in E. Midlands
> > [...]'
> >
> > It's not in the Shorter 4-th edition.
>
> Full title:
> The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English

There is no 'New' in the title of the work I was referring to, it's just
_A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English_. 8-th edition, as I
said.

By 'Shorter' I meant the Shorter OED.

Sorry for any confusion.

Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 4:48:17 PM5/30/09
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Gareth wrote:

> But it is in the OED
> http://dictionary.oed.com/

I'm not a subscriber.

Gareth

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May 30, 2009, 4:49:16 PM5/30/09
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Frederick Williams wrote in message :
>> But it is in the OED
>> http://dictionary.oed.com/
>
> I'm not a subscriber.

That's why I posted what it said.

Frederick Williams

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May 30, 2009, 4:56:08 PM5/30/09
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Gareth wrote:
>
> Frederick Williams wrote in message :
> >> But it is in the OED
> >> http://dictionary.oed.com/
> >
> > I'm not a subscriber.
>
> That's why I posted what it said.

The post of yours that I read was about 'whittle' not 'wittle'.

Gareth

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Frederick Williams put fingers to keyboard and typed :

>>>> But it is in the OED
>>>> http://dictionary.oed.com/
>>>
>>> I'm not a subscriber.
>>
>> That's why I posted what it said.
>
> The post of yours that I read was about 'whittle' not 'wittle'.

As I've already told you, WITTLE is not in the OED - but in the context
that Goromoff wants to use the word, WHITTLE is the spelling that the
OED shows.

Frederick Williams

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May 31, 2009, 4:56:11 AM5/31/09
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And which word is Goromoff interested in? There is surely no point in
looking up the one that he isn't.

Gareth

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Frederick Williams put fingers to keyboard and typed :
>>>>>> But it is in the OED
>>>>>> http://dictionary.oed.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a subscriber.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I posted what it said.
>>>
>>> The post of yours that I read was about 'whittle' not 'wittle'.
>>
>> As I've already told you, WITTLE is not in the OED - but in the context
>> that Goromoff wants to use the word, WHITTLE is the spelling that the
>> OED shows.
>
> And which word is Goromoff interested in? There is surely no point in
> looking up the one that he isn't.

Read the thread you twat.

Frederick Williams

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I assume that your descent into personal abuse means that you know
you've lost the argument.

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Gareth

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Frederick Williams penned the following:
>>>>>>>> But it is in the OED
>>>>>>>> http://dictionary.oed.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not a subscriber.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I posted what it said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The post of yours that I read was about 'whittle' not 'wittle'.
>>>>
>>>> As I've already told you, WITTLE is not in the OED - but in the context
>>>> that Goromoff wants to use the word, WHITTLE is the spelling that the
>>>> OED shows.
>>>
>>> And which word is Goromoff interested in? There is surely no point in
>>> looking up the one that he isn't.
>>
>> Read the thread you twat.
>
> I assume that your descent into personal abuse means that you know
> you've lost the argument.

No it doesn't, it just means that I'm fed up with your stupidity.

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Gareth

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Wrinklie One ᅵ sauntered in and penned :

>>>>>>>>>> But it is in the OED
>>>>>>>>>> http://dictionary.oed.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not a subscriber.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's why I posted what it said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The post of yours that I read was about 'whittle' not 'wittle'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've already told you, WITTLE is not in the OED - but in the context
>>>>>> that Goromoff wants to use the word, WHITTLE is the spelling that the
>>>>>> OED shows.
>>>>>
>>>>> And which word is Goromoff interested in? There is surely no point in
>>>>> looking up the one that he isn't.
>>>>
>>>> Read the thread you twat.
>>>
>>> I assume that your descent into personal abuse means that you know
>>> you've lost the argument.
>>
>> No it doesn't, it just means that I'm fed up with your stupidity.
>
> Waste not thy breath O erudite.... He trolls for people who know what
> they are talking about and tries to convince them that they don't..

I was not aware that we were having an "argument" until he told me.
:-))

wtwjgc (Joe)

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On 23/06/2009 10:27, Gareth wrote:
> Wrinklie One � sauntered in and penned :

>>>>
>>>> I assume that your descent into personal abuse means that you know
>>>> you've lost the argument.
>>>
>>> No it doesn't, it just means that I'm fed up with your stupidity.
>>
>> Waste not thy breath O erudite.... He trolls for people who know what
>> they are talking about and tries to convince them that they don't..
>
> I was not aware that we were having an "argument" until he told me. :-))
>

He's what killfiles were made for. :)

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Gareth

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wtwjgc (Joe) wrote in message :

>>>>> I assume that your descent into personal abuse means that you know
>>>>> you've lost the argument.
>>>> No it doesn't, it just means that I'm fed up with your stupidity.
>>>
>>> Waste not thy breath O erudite.... He trolls for people who know what
>>> they are talking about and tries to convince them that they don't..
>>
>> I was not aware that we were having an "argument" until he told me. :-)
>>
>
> He's what killfiles were made for. :)

Oh, I'll just ignore him...

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