What's Your Mug Worth?
Michaelangelo
Venture Portraits. They take digital pics and then work on them with
Photoshop to produce kind of 'freaky' results. All very modernistic and
fashionable. If you haven't come across them you can see the sort of
stuff they produce at:
There is a branch just up the road from me. This afternoon I was going to
Sainsburys with my disabled friend, Davie, and, as we came up to the door
of VP's, he announce that he wanted to pop in and get a price list 'cos
his fiancee was interested in getting a pic done of the two of them.
The picture taking session itself costs £25. You then choose the picture
or pictures you want and the size. Your first 7x5 print, in a fairly
basic frame, costs £75 (that's a special offer at the moment reduced from
£125. Subsequent 7x5's will be £125). Their largest size print, framed,
costs a a staggering £900. For that sort of money you coud buy a pc and a
digi-cam and do it yourself (and then do it for all the neighbours and
get your money back in a day).
What a rip-off!
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Michaelangelo
Accessible, self-catering holiday
accommodation for the disabled:
www.woodhead-cottage.co.uk
pmj
news:MPG.1a401e49a...@news.individual.net...
>
> There's a new(ish) national chain of portrait photographers called
> Venture Portraits. They take digital pics and then work on them with
> Photoshop to produce kind of 'freaky' results. All very modernistic
> and fashionable. If you haven't come across them you can see the sort
> of stuff they produce at:
>
>
> There is a branch just up the road from me. This afternoon I was
> going to Sainsburys with my disabled friend, Davie,
& what a downright bloody annoying & *awkward* Website that is!!!
The Main Navigation Menu is a Shockwave Flash thing.
If you don't have ActiveX Controls Allowed in your Browser you see
absolutely *nothing* in the way of Navigation Links!
:-(
Not even any Plain Text Links.
& if you *do* allow the pesky ShockWave Flash Menu to Load & Run, the
Links jump around all over the place, expanding & Collapsing as you
Hover over them!!!
Just when you move to another one, the Links Collapse & the Link you're
looking at & aiming for moves!!!
*very* difficult to Navigate & it completely screws the natural
Hand-to-Eye Coordination that you use when using the Mouse.
& trying to Move around the Links using the TAB Key is a nightmare!!!
<snip>
> What a rip-off!
Well, someone has to pay the bills for the ridiculously
over-complicated, yet virtually unusable Web Design?
:-(
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pmj
Tickettyboo
pmj whispered softly in my ear....:
> "Michaelangelo" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1a401e49a...@news.individual.net...
>>
>> There's a new(ish) national chain of portrait photographers called
> & what a downright bloody annoying & *awkward* Website that is!!!
<big snip>
You didn't like it then pmj?
LOL!
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Ticketty᧧
pmj
news:br5612$28hq1h$1...@ID-106967.news.uni-berlin.de...
Well...
I didn't get any further than the first Page of of it!!!
That overly complex & confuzzling Navigation System was enough
to put me off.
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pmj
Rabbit
digi-cam and do it yourself (and then do it for all the neighbours and
get your money back in a day).
What a rip-off!
I hope you persuaded your friend not to buy any ?
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People will forget what you did, but
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Rabbit
"Rabbit" <Rabb...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: I hope you persuaded your friend not to buy any ?
Why did my reply to Michaelangelo not put in the attribution lines when
other replies had them?
Old Grizzly
<snip>
> Ł900. For that sort of money you coud buy a pc and a digi-cam
> and do it yourself (and then do it for all the neighbours and
> get your money back in a day).
>
> What a rip-off!
Do i get a discount if my mug is already been adjusted by nature? ;-)
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Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live
forever. - Mahatma Gandhi
pmj
> "Rabbit" <Rabb...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:br5and$28o2kl$1...@ID-121225.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> : I hope you persuaded your friend not to buy any ?
>
> Why did my reply to Michaelangelo not put in the
> attribution lines when other replies had them?
If you mean the "Quoting Character" - the ">" (or in your case,
the ":") at the beginning of each Quoted Line in your Reply -
then that's cos you're using OutLook Express & you were replying to
a Post that was sent using "Quoted-Printable" Encoding...
news:MPG.1a401e49a...@news.individual.net
<quote>
From: Michaelangelo <m...@privacy.net>
Newsgroups: uk.people.silversurfers
Subject: What's Your Mug Worth?
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:15 -0000
Message-ID: <MPG.1a401e49a...@news.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1070992839 76788027 213.122.14.140
([115457])
X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60
</quote>
The MicroPlanet Gravity Newsreader has a habit of sending Posts using
Quoted Printable Encoding, when they include anything other than the
standard 7Bit (ASCII) Characters.
& his Post included "£" GBP Pound Signs, which get encoded as =A3
A3 is the Hexadecimal Representaion of Decimal 163 which is the Number
used (in most Character Sets) for a "£" GBP Pound Sign
OutLook Express has always had a known problem when it comes to replying
to Posts sent using Quoted Printable Encoding - it can't determine where
the Beginning of the Lines are, so it can't suss out where to put the
">" or ":" bits in the Reply.
For more info about it have a look here...
168779 OLEXP: No Quote Characters When Using Quoted Printable Format
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168779
Why does OE forget to add reply characters to some of my replies?
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars
HTH
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pmj
Rabbit
"pmj" <po...@newsgroup.for.details> wrote in message
news:QPsBb.1324$Ll1.18...@news-text.cableinet.net...
: If you mean the "Quoting Character" - the ">" (or in your case,
: the ":") at the beginning of each Quoted Line in your Reply -
: then that's cos you're using OutLook Express & you were replying to
: a Post that was sent using "Quoted-Printable" Encoding...
Yep
: The MicroPlanet Gravity Newsreader has a habit of sending Posts using
: Quoted Printable Encoding, when they include anything other than the
: standard 7Bit (ASCII) Characters.
: & his Post included "£" GBP Pound Signs, which get encoded as =A3
: A3 is the Hexadecimal Representaion of Decimal 163 which is the Number
: used (in most Character Sets) for a "£" GBP Pound Sign
:
: OutLook Express has always had a known problem when it comes to replying
: to Posts sent using Quoted Printable Encoding - it can't determine where
: the Beginning of the Lines are, so it can't suss out where to put the
: ">" or ":" bits in the Reply.
Well I've never had this problem replying to Michaelangelo's posts before
which was why I was wondering.
:
: For more info about it have a look here...
:
: 168779 OLEXP: No Quote Characters When Using Quoted Printable Format
: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168779
:
: Why does OE forget to add reply characters to some of my replies?
: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars
Read ( oh and yes I have read them :-) ) ta muchly.
pmj
> "pmj" <po...@newsgroup.for.details> wrote in message
> news:QPsBb.1324$Ll1.18...@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : news:br5as2$29nld6$1...@ID-121225.news.uni-berlin.de...
> : >
> : > Why did my reply to Michaelangelo not put in the
> : > attribution lines when other replies had them?
> : If you mean the "Quoting Character" - the ">" (or in your case,
> : the ":") at the beginning of each Quoted Line in your Reply -
> : then that's cos you're using OutLook Express & you were replying
> : to a Post that was sent using "Quoted-Printable" Encoding...
>
> Yep
>
> : The MicroPlanet Gravity Newsreader has a habit of sending Posts
> : using Quoted Printable Encoding, when they include anything other
> : than the standard 7Bit (ASCII) Characters.
> : & his Post included "£" GBP Pound Signs, which get encoded as =A3
> : A3 is the Hexadecimal Representaion of Decimal 163 which is the
> : Number used (in most Character Sets) for a "£" GBP Pound Sign
> :
> : OutLook Express has always had a known problem when it comes to
> : replying to Posts sent using Quoted Printable Encoding - it can't
> : determine where the Beginning of the Lines are, so it can't suss
> : out where to put the ">" or ":" bits in the Reply.
>
> Well I've never had this problem replying to Michaelangelo's posts
> before which was why I was wondering.
Well...
It happens whenever he (or anybody else who uses MicroPlanet Gravity
or similar Newsreaders) sends a Post that has any 8Bit Characters
(such as "£" GBP Pound Signs, or other stuff such as bits quoted
from Web Pages) in it.
Those Newsreaders automatically switch to using Quoted-Printable,
so as to send those 8Bit Characters as 7Bit ASCII Characters.
> : For more info about it have a look here...
> :
> : 168779 OLEXP: No Quote Characters When Using Quoted Printable Format
> : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168779
> :
> : Why does OE forget to add reply characters to some of my replies?
> : http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars
>
> Read ( oh and yes I have read them :-) ) ta muchly.
Read, but forgotten, eh?
:-)
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pmj
Rabbit
"pmj" <po...@newsgroup.for.details> wrote in message
: > : 168779 OLEXP: No Quote Characters When Using Quoted Printable Format
: > : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168779
: > :
: > : Why does OE forget to add reply characters to some of my replies?
: > : http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars
: >
: > Read ( oh and yes I have read them :-) ) ta muchly.
:
: Read, but forgotten, eh?
: :-)
No not forgotten yet. Stuff only gets forgotten when it has to fall out to
make room for some new stuff so there :-P
Michaelangelo
Rabb...@Hotmail.com says...
>
> "Michaelangelo" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1a401e49a...@news.individual.net...
> For that sort of money you coud buy a pc and a
> digi-cam and do it yourself (and then do it for all the neighbours and
> get your money back in a day).
>
> What a rip-off!
>
> I hope you persuaded your friend not to buy any ?
Didn't need to - he was as horrified as I was.
pmj
news:MPG.1a412f87e...@news.individual.net...
> In article <7HtBb.1398$ZL1.18...@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> po...@newsgroup.for.details says...
> >
> > Well...
> > It happens whenever he (or anybody else who uses MicroPlanet
> > Gravity or similar Newsreaders) sends a Post that has any
> > 8Bit Characters
Sorry, I was trying to be too brief there!!!
I should have qualified that a bit...
He's using MicroPlanet Gravity 2.60 & it's set so as to send posts
using Quoted-Printable when they include 8Bit Characters.
I'm not sure whether that is a User-Definable Option or if it's
Hard-Wired into the Program.
> > (such as "£" GBP Pound Signs, or other stuff such as bits quoted
> > from Web Pages) in it.
> > Those Newsreaders automatically switch to using Quoted-Printable,
> > so as to send those 8Bit Characters as 7Bit ASCII Characters.
> >
> I have just sent a post using the pound sign in the "Car MOT tests"
> thread & Gravity didn't automatically switch to using
> Quoted-Printable then to send it so in case I have misread the above
> I'm tring again this time copying & pasting from a web page here...
> £40.75 to see what happens to it this time
It seems as if your Version of MicroPlanet Gravity (2.50) *isn't*
set so as to convert posts that have 8Bit Characters in them to
Quoted-Printable.
It's sending them directly as 8Bit.
It's not the "Copying & Pasting" per se that is any prob - I only
mentioned that, cos Copying & Pasting stuff from Web Pages is a
convenient & common way of including 8Bit Characters in Posts.
HTH
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pmj
Michaelangelo
> I didn't think it was really to do with the copying & pasting & now
> after testing I know it isn't :-)
Micro-Planet, who produced Gravity, have long since disappeared. Super
Gravity is an 'unofficial' upgrade which can still be obtained. You can
get more info, including stuff about the 'quoted-printable' issue and
also download it, if you want, from:
http://gravity.tbates.org/super.html
or
Super Gravity looks and feels just like Gravity so there's no new
learning curve to negotiate.
Peter C
trogl...@heypete.com says...
> Thanks for reminding me.
> The problem does seem to be with 2.50
> http://gravity.tbates.org/pics/b2035.html compares 2.50 and 2.6.
>
> And I am a few versions behind. Off to update.
>
>
>
Just got mine up to date with Build 2037.
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Pete
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pmj
> In article <MPG.1a41523b...@news.individual.net>,
> Tr@cie says...
> >
> > I didn't think it was really to do with the copying & pasting
> > & now after testing I know it isn't :-)
>
> Micro-Planet, who produced Gravity, have long since disappeared.
> Super Gravity is an 'unofficial' upgrade which can still be obtained.
> You can get more info, including stuff about the 'quoted-printable'
> issue and also download it, if you want, from:
>
> http://gravity.tbates.org/super.html
> Super Gravity looks and feels just like Gravity so there's
> no new learning curve to negotiate.
Thanks for that URL.
That very neatly & clearly explains what's been happening, regarding
the way that some people's Versions of Gravity send their Posts using
Qouted-Printable encoding.
& for more info about the various ways of coping with the problem
of sending 8Bit Characters in Messages, have a look at the various
MIME-related RFCs...
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/np.html#MIME
In particular...
RFC 2045 Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) Part One:
Format of Internet Message Bodies
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2045.html
RFC 2046 Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) Part Two:
Media Types
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2046.html
RFC 2047 MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) Part Three:
Message Header Extensions for Non-ASCII Text
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2047.html
HTH
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pmj
Peter C
trogl...@heypete.com says...
> Downloading build 2061 from Sourceforge.net
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95245
>
> --
> John the Recycled Teenager
>
>
Thanks John,just downloaded it.Can now see Vals.piccie:-)
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Peter C
trogl...@heypete.com says...
> n article <MPG.1a4163689...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>,
> trogl...@heypete.com says...
> >
> > But not installing as there is no speilchuckler. :-(
> >
>
>
I can blame Gravity then if I make any spelling mistakes:-)
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Peter C
trogl...@heypete.com says...
> Oo I might just change my mind and install it then. <vbwg>
> On second thoughts, will I see any of the others?
>
> --
> John the R-T
>
>
I haven't seen any others yet but perhaps someone else with a piccie
enabled will post so I can check:-)
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Troy
> I haven't seen any others yet but perhaps someone else with a piccie
> enabled will post so I can check:-)
Woof :-)
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Peter C
says...
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Troy
> Ooerrr. I'm going back to a previous version. :-)
BITE !!!! :-)