ntl webmail

[Pam the goose]

https://mail.ntlworld.com

Anybody use this address for picking up ntlworld mail?
If so can you tell me how on earth you find the bin to empty it
since they updated the site?
Mine must be full to overflowing cos I can't find it to empty!
And there used to be a delete-for-ever option but that's gone
now. At least that option didn't fill your bin!
--
Pam the goose

[Patrick]

Clicking that link redirected me to VM-Webmail, here is picture of the
'Bin'.
http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=07ddcf8

[wtwjgc (Joe) on laptop]

I thought VM was now using Google's mail service. If so you'll have over
10 gigabytes of storage so won't be full yet.
Bin should be in left hand column. If it isn't check settings (little
cog at top right) - Labels.
The bin should automatically empty after 30 days.
All above presuming it IS Google's mail servers.

--
wtwjgc (Joe) on laptop
<http://welcometowakefield.org.uk/>

[Ali]

On Thu, 10 May 2012 18:55:54 GMT, Pam the goose commented

> https://mail.ntlworld.com
>
> Anybody use this address for picking up ntlworld mail?
> If so can you tell me how on earth you find the bin to empty it
> since they updated the site?

It's down the left side, with all the other folders.


However I am getting a notice saying "Some important features may not work
in this version of your browser, so you have been redirected to the Basic
HTML version." probably because they think I have an out-of-date browser.
I have and it suits me to NOT get 'improvements' as you describe.
But the 'Select All' and 'Clear Spam' buttons have gone :^(

I'd rather have a plain POP3 mailbox that deleted mails when asked to,

> Mine must be full to overflowing cos I can't find it to empty!
> And there used to be a delete-for-ever option but that's gone
> now. At least that option didn't fill your bin!

Perhaps you can find a link to the 'Basic HTML' version?


--
Ali
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/my.web.pages/ Don't go there.
UPS/FUNTO April stats: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/my.web.pages/stats/
Nearly Nine and a quarter years of reporting!

[Pam the goose]

Patrick wrote:
>
> Clicking that link redirected me to VM-Webmail, here is picture
> of the
> 'Bin'.
> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=07ddcf8

Yes, ntl is really VM, they've just stuck to the name for us with
an ntlworld email address;-)
Thanks, Patrick, but my page doesn't have those buttons on it and
I can't sort out how to get them!
I've changed nothing in the settings so the page is exactly as it
came when they got together with google. I've looked at the
settings but can't see anything that will alter the buttons on
the page. I'd rather ask for help than blindly click settings.
However I can see I'm going to have to blindly click and see if
they appear.
They're there on Ray's page.
--
Pam the goose

[Pam the goose]

Oh, yes, they've got together with google:-)
It's since the get-together that I've not been able to totally
delete mail, it's always gone to the bin.
OK, which settings to I need to alter to show the bin? I'm not
usually defeated by these things but I cannot see what I should
tick or cross to get my bin showing - plus to get the permanently
delete button.
I've not clicked any of the settings because they don't really
tell me what they do, well, not in a meaningful way.
--
Pam the goose

[Pam the goose]

Ali wrote:
>
> It's down the left side, with all the other folders.

Down the left I have mail, compose and chat, that's all.

> However I am getting a notice saying "Some important features
> may not
> work in this version of your browser, so you have been
> redirected to
> the Basic HTML version." probably because they think I have an
> out-of-date browser. I have and it suits me to NOT get
> 'improvements'
> as you describe.
> But the 'Select All' and 'Clear Spam' buttons have gone :^(

At least you did have Select All and Clear Spam buttons - I've
never had them.
I wonder if me using plain text has something to do with it.

> I'd rather have a plain POP3 mailbox that deleted mails when
> asked to,

Me too, Ali, me too:-)

> Perhaps you can find a link to the 'Basic HTML' version?

Have searched the settings but not found anything:-(
--
Pam the goose

[Frogman]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 00:18:25 +0100, Pam the goose croaked:

> I've not clicked any of the settings because they don't really
> tell me what they do, well, not in a meaningful way.

Oh that's easy Pam,
The first setting changes the thingy me bob, the second one changes the
whats a ma call it, the third one changes the ows ya Father and so on,
quite meaningful and easy to follow ;-)
If you get stuck press the thing e me bob :-)
--
Regards
Frogman,

[Frogman]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 00:18:25 +0100, Pam the goose croaked:

> Oh, yes, they've got together with google:-)
> It's since the get-together that I've not been able to totally
> delete mail, it's always gone to the bin.
> OK, which settings to I need to alter to show the bin? I'm not
> usually defeated by these things but I cannot see what I should
> tick or cross to get my bin showing - plus to get the permanently
> delete button.
> I've not clicked any of the settings because they don't really
> tell me what they do, well, not in a meaningful way.

Pam, on a serious note,
If it is the same as Gmail, when viewing in basic HTML the settings to
display the items is not available, if you log in and view it in normal
mode, click on settings then labels and from there you can "show" or "hide"
all of the system icons, such as bin etc.
--
Regards
Frogman,
In God we trust, ALL others pay CASH.

[biffo]

"Frogman" <uk_fr...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > Oh that's easy

Pam,
> The first setting changes the thingy me bob, the second one changes
> the
> whats a ma call it, the third one changes the ows ya Father and so on,
> quite meaningful and easy to follow ;-)
> If you get stuck press the thing e me bob :-)
> --
> Regards
> Frogman,

And what about "haws your Farther" you forgot that Froggie..


Biffo.....<(.ż.)>

[Frogman]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:48:54 +0100, biffo croaked:

> And what about "haws your Farther" you forgot that Froggie..

I didn't Biffo, that setting won't help Pam on this occasion ;-)
--
Regards
Frogman,
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked
something.

[biffo]

"Frogman" <uk_fr...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

news:1umkyji073ikk$.dlg@frogman.plus.com...

Froggie..
>
> I didn't Biffo, that setting won't help Pam on this occasion ;-)
> --
> Regards
> Frogman,

So it was hit and miss time then..


Biffo.....<(.ż.)>

[Frogman]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:08:26 +0100, biffo croaked:

> So it was hit and miss time then..

One never knows :-)
--
Regards
Frogman.
Great men are not always idiots!

[Pam the goose]

Frogman wrote:
>
> Pam, on a serious note,
> If it is the same as Gmail, when viewing in basic HTML the
> settings to
> display the items is not available, if you log in and view it
> in
> normal mode, click on settings then labels and from there you
> can
> "show" or "hide" all of the system icons, such as bin etc.

I have no choice over which mode I view it in.
That is the URL they gave me and that's the only one I've got.
Ray's gone to copy down all his settings and we'll check mine are
like his, where they aren't we'll change 'em.
Mind you, there's so many settings I could still be w*rking on
them this time next week. So if we're gone till the end of next
week you'll know its because we are busy sorting out the email
settings;-)
--
Pam the goose

[Pam the goose]

Just to let you all know I am digesting every message in this
thread in the hopes I can get somewhere.

Now I went to the left hand side of the page and very slowly
moved/hovered my cursor to and fro, up and down.
At one stage I got those double lines that mean you can move this
table row down and see what's missing! So I did and I did! There,
sitting amongst a list of things was SPAM 57. I knew there must
be a lot there!

So I clicked that SPAM and I saw the 57 mails I had in there -
all pure spam, vm is good at sorting spam from real;-) - and I
deleted them.

Next, there on the left in that list I could see bin so I went
there. And, lo & behold, there were the 57 I'd just deleted plus
2 I had deleted yesterday and when I selected them all it offered
me a permanent-delete button so they've all gone!

It really has been the efforts of each one of you who've joined
in this thread that has got me where I wanted to be so thanks to
each and every one of you:-)

Now all I've got to be able to do is remember how on earth I did
it when I next want to empty my bin!
--
Pam the goose

[wtwjgc (Joe) on laptop]

One thing to remember with Google taking over old NTL mail system -
Stuff in bin or spam are automatically deleted after 30 days, so you
don't really need to delete them yourself.
Also the amount of storage is massive.
I've over 6000 messages on one email account and I'm only using 2% of my
allocation.

[Pam the goose]

wtwjgc (Joe) on laptop wrote:
>

> One thing to remember with Google taking over old NTL mail
> system -
> Stuff in bin or spam are automatically deleted after 30 days,
> so you
> don't really need to delete them yourself.
> Also the amount of storage is massive.
> I've over 6000 messages on one email account and I'm only using
> 2% of
> my allocation.

Sorry, I've been brought up in the *don't store what you don't
need* generation and I can't help being annoyed by spam sitting
there doing nothing but take up space;-)
--
Pam the goose

[Ali]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:58:19 GMT, wtwjgc (Joe) on laptop commented

> One thing to remember with Google taking over old NTL mail system -
> Stuff in bin or spam are automatically deleted after 30 days, so you
> don't really need to delete them yourself.

Hidden, not deleted. This is Google after all.

On one of my accounts 314 old mails from 2011 have reappeared in 'all mail',
(but not in any other folder), and refuse to remain deleted.

> Also the amount of storage is massive.
> I've over 6000 messages on one email account and I'm only using 2% of my
> allocation.



--

[MCC]

The best thing I ever did was get myself a proper domain name -
mikeclouston.co.uk with associated email hosting and/or forwarding.
This means that my email, hosted by easily.co.uk, is either downloaded from
their servers or forwarded to an email host of my choice. Mine can either
go to PlusNet or I can have it forwarded to any of the other email accounts
I have such as Google, Yahoo or GMX.
If any one of them goes toes up, it's a very simple process to have my mail
forwarded to any of the others.
--
MCC

[Pam the goose]

MCC wrote:
>
> The best thing I ever did was get myself a proper domain name -
> mikeclouston.co.uk with associated email hosting and/or
> forwarding.
> This means that my email, hosted by easily.co.uk, is either
> downloaded from their servers or forwarded to an email host of
> my
> choice. Mine can either go to PlusNet or I can have it
> forwarded to
> any of the other email accounts I have such as Google, Yahoo or
> GMX.
> If any one of them goes toes up, it's a very simple process to
> have
> my mail forwarded to any of the others.

I have my stoke3 the same but I save that address for special
people.
The ntl world addy is the one I use around the world and the spam
people pick it up regularly.
But VM are good at deciding what's spam and what isn't, I don't
think they've made one mistake with mine. They now leave what
they think is real mail on the POP3 server and put a copy of
them, plus all the spam, on the vm/google site.
Because there is still a POP3 server I can check with MailWasher
and see if there is any real mail there. The other one I check
maybe once a day just in case something real has arrived there:-)
My stoke3 domain is hosted by Penguin and I'd recommend them to
anyone:-)
--
Pam the goose

[Ali]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:12:25 GMT, Pam the goose commented

> But VM are good at deciding what's spam and what isn't,

It's Google that does it, and they've called mailshots from VM, and other
legitimate, signed up for, commercial mailshots spam.
This means I have to glance through the spam folder to check.
I really prefered dealing with the spam myself, or rather letting *my*
filters deal with it, a bit at a time as it arrives.

> I don't
> think they've made one mistake with mine. They now leave what
> they think is real mail on the POP3 server and put a copy of
> them, plus all the spam, on the vm/google site.

Rather, the POP3 server serves the contents of the inbox folder.

[Pam the goose]

Ali wrote:
> It's Google that does it, and they've called mailshots from VM,
> and
> other legitimate, signed up for, commercial mailshots spam.
> This means I have to glance through the spam folder to check.
> I really prefered dealing with the spam myself, or rather
> letting *my*
> filters deal with it, a bit at a time as it arrives.

Yes, I prefer it that way, too.

> Rather, the POP3 server serves the contents of the inbox
> folder.

I got it the wrong way round but you knew what I meant!!
;-)
--
Pam the goose

[Bob Henson]

That the sensible way to do it. When I was thinking of changing ISPs a
while back, and hence aware things could go wrong, I moved two full
domains to Penguin. I use two Gmail addresses (disposable) and got
another from TalkTalk when I eventually moved. That's overkill really,
but better safe than sorry. I use POP3 for all of them, but have web
access to them too - so if I can get internet access from anywhere at
all, I can carry on as normal.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK


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