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Pam the goose

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Feb 10, 2011, 7:23:48 AM2/10/11
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What on earth's one of those? Oh, it's an occupation, by the way:-)

Trying to trace Ray's GtGrandparents, not very successfully, and came across
this on the 1911 census.

Beats plain, common or garden teacher any day;-))
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Michaelangelo

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Feb 10, 2011, 7:30:31 AM2/10/11
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http://www.sirhowy.com/puddler.html

I guess the 'underhand' bit means either he was dishonest and deceitful
:) or that he was under the main puddler in terms of seniority.

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Michaelangelo

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Feb 10, 2011, 7:36:13 AM2/10/11
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Michaelangelo leapt into action and said:

> http://www.sirhowy.com/puddler.html
>
> I guess the 'underhand' bit means either he was dishonest and deceitful :) or
> that he was under the main puddler in terms of seniority.

I meant to say that as job titles go they don't come much better than
'Underhand Puddler'. Kennerth Horne and his gang could have had a field
day with that one. I wish I'd had an 'Underhand Puddler' in my
ancestral line.

Pam the goose

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Feb 10, 2011, 8:03:49 AM2/10/11
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In news:8ri43a...@mid.individual.net,
Michaelangelo <mike...@lineone.net.invalid> typed:

> Pam the goose leapt into action and said:
>> What on earth's one of those? Oh, it's an occupation, by the way:-)
>>
>> Trying to trace Ray's GtGrandparents, not very successfully, and
>> came across this on the 1911 census.
>>
>> Beats plain, common or garden teacher any day;-))
>
> http://www.sirhowy.com/puddler.html
>
> I guess the 'underhand' bit means either he was dishonest and
> deceitful :) or that he was under the main puddler in terms of
> seniority.

Was too busy at the time to go searching.
Thanks, MA, it sounds an interesting j*b but not one *I'd* like to be
doing:-(
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Pam the goose


wtwjgc

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Feb 10, 2011, 8:20:45 AM2/10/11
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Geoff. Hayward

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Feb 10, 2011, 8:47:57 AM2/10/11
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"wtwjgc" <wtw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2/10/2011 13:03, Pam the goose wrote:
>> In news:8ri43a...@mid.individual.net,
>> Michaelangelo<mike...@lineone.net.invalid> typed:
>>> Pam the goose leapt into action and said:
>>>> What on earth's one of those? Oh, it's an occupation, by the way:-)
>>>>
>>>> Trying to trace Ray's GtGrandparents, not very successfully, and
>>>> came across this on the 1911 census.
>>>>
>>>> Beats plain, common or garden teacher any day;-))

Bit like "saggar makers bottom knocker".

Geoff.


The Brownie

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Feb 10, 2011, 9:53:36 AM2/10/11
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"Geoff. Hayward" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Once saw advert in Northants newspaper for :
*Bottom Cementers*
(Shoe Trade no doubt)

Margaret


Tickettyboo

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Feb 10, 2011, 11:30:38 AM2/10/11
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I had one of those and read up about it as I only vaguely knew what was
involved.
Underhand - possibly another term for, orjust under in seniority, a
chargehand and the foreman ruled the roost.
Puddling was a iron industry term, heavy, dangerous, dirty and
extremely hot! but very skillful work back then. They added iron oxide
to the molten ore and stirred it with a long tool like a hoe, whcih
was very heavy. That, eventually, separated the pure iron which was
then formed into balls weighing around two hundred pounds which were
then taken to go through the next process.

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Pam the goose

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Feb 10, 2011, 11:35:08 AM2/10/11
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In news:8rii5e...@mid.individual.net,
Tickettyboo <ticke...@mail2oops.com> typed:

Really does sound as though they earned their pennies, doesn't it, Boo?
We didn't have anything of the sort where I grew up so it was something very
new to me.
(Honest, it's not cos I begot it!)
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Derek F

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Feb 10, 2011, 12:25:53 PM2/10/11
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Jeff Gaines

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Feb 10, 2011, 1:25:51 PM2/10/11
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On 10/02/2011 in message <8rii5e...@mid.individual.net> Tickettyboo
wrote:

>That, eventually, separated the pure iron which was then formed into balls
>weighing around two hundred pounds which were then taken to go through
>the next process.

Ahh, that's where Maggie got them from :-)

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Bob Henson

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Feb 10, 2011, 1:50:14 PM2/10/11
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Tickettyboo wrote:

Pigs!

The lumps of iron, that is. As in the Rock Island Line - "I got all pig
iron, I got all pig iron, I got alllllllllllllllllll, Pig Iron."
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Ali

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Feb 10, 2011, 5:57:38 PM2/10/11
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:23:48 GMT, Pam the goose commented

You've had all the explanations, I'll just add that I learnt about
puddling at school, and at one time, when wrought iron was *the*
building material, Tees-side puddlers made about one tenth of the world
production of wrought iron, and the Middlesbrough Exchange set the world
price of iron.

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Pam the goose

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Feb 11, 2011, 12:50:14 AM2/11/11
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Ali <ali.on...@ntlworld.com> typed:

>
> You've had all the explanations, I'll just add that I learnt about
> puddling at school, and at one time, when wrought iron was *the*
> building material, Tees-side puddlers made about one tenth of the
> world production of wrought iron, and the Middlesbrough Exchange set
> the world price of iron.

Yes, the NE was much more interesting in my childhood lessons than the NW.
They *did* things in the NE. But lessons only skimmed the surface:-(
Though I remember learning a lot about the Liverpool Docks - even taking a
class tour of them, bus there and back and along the full length of the
docks stopping many times along the way and we went on one of the passenger
ships. We learned about the cargoes many of the cargo ships were on or
offloading.
I guess that was the NW equivilant of you learning about iron in the NE:-)
For lessons I'd have preferred to have lived in the NE cos things went on
there;-)
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