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Vicky

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May 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/4/98
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Mike Scott wrote:
>
> On Tue, 05 May 1998 14:07:30 GMT, sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk (SAB
> The "Stuff Mistress") wrote:
>
> >I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
> >no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!
>
> There's something in Walthamstow. I don't have details, but I'm sure
> Alison will be along in a minute to provide them.
>

Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!
What's all this about 'something in Walthamstow'then?

Vicky


Martin Stewart

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This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
other local SF groups.

I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
to.

I realise the bulk of replies will be that people just meet up down the
pub for a sociable drink, but it would be nice to know that we aren't
the only ones.

Martin Stewart
http://www.polaris.org

SAB The Stuff Mistress

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 13:34:14 GMT, Martin Stewart
<martin....@bt.net> wrote:

> I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
> interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
> to.

Well, my way "back" to SF after what was a 10 year absense was via
"Babblings" which are semi-informal get-togethers of B5 fans,
occasionally with guests. There are smaller meetings, called "Points"
which are called pretty reguarly at The Paviours Arms, Pimlico (the
next one has been called for Friday May 22nd) These normally involve
beer and discussion, and no great SF content.

For more details on Babblings, visit the URL:

http://pandora.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jmorley/gold_channel/babblings.html

A fair few people here have been to these meetings, and anyone is
welcome (a love of B5 is not essential!)

I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!

:->
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Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <35531b07...@news.demon.co.uk>, "SAB The \"Stuff

Mistress\"" <sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk> said:
>I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
>no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!


Eeeh lads and lassesses, she's gonna be reet dang'rous when we get 'er
into real SF fandom, innit she?

<Envisonaging the SAB for TAFF campaign, 2010)

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delusus fui," dixit "et ursus sine ullo cerebro sum."

Simon H Le G Bisson

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 13:34:14 GMT, Martin Stewart
<martin....@bt.net> wrote:

>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.
>

>I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
>interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
>to.

Which is an excellent bunch of folks - I used to go along when I lived
in Hertfordshire.

Groups I know of include Edinburgh (I'm sure Steve will give details),
Bristol, Cambridge and one or two small London groups. There's also
the Portsmouth mob...

AFAIR the Bath group died after most of the group left the area...

S.
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Martin Stewart

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I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised to hear that Babylon5 fans are
having meetings. I should realise by now just how diverse UK fandom
really is.

I'm glad to hear that you are following the trusted formula of drink and
little mention of SF.

snip...


> These normally involve
> beer and discussion, and no great SF content.

snip...


> I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
> no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!

I know Dave Lermit might be interested in any SF groups in Essex as
well.

I'll have to get him online so he can get in touch.

Martin

Martin Stewart

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Simon,

It's really good to hear from you. I'm glad to see how widely read
uk.people.sf-fans is.

I have yet to hear reports of the Cambridge Group which formed after
Alex McClintock moved up there. Does anyone know how it is going?

Martin

Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <354F3AB1...@bt.net>, Martin Stewart

<martin....@bt.net> said:
>I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised to hear that Babylon5 fans are
>having meetings. I should realise by now just how diverse UK fandom
>really is.

We even run cons...SF ones at that.

Http://www.steamradio.com/TheWrapParty


>
>I'm glad to hear that you are following the trusted formula of drink and
>little mention of SF.

We have a full programme that you can ignore from the bar.

Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <35532dce...@news.demon.co.uk>, Simon H Le G Bisson

<si...@fehen.demon.co.uk> said:
>Groups I know of include Edinburgh (I'm sure Steve will give details),
>Bristol, Cambridge and one or two small London groups. There's also
>the Portsmouth mob...


Isn't FOKT still running in Glasgow?

Daryl Ball

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Martin Stewart wrote in message <354F1539...@bt.net>...


>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.


Hi

I help run a Red Dwarf local group in N. Ireland. If anyones interested
e-mail me. Thanks.

Steve Glover

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In article <35532dce...@news.demon.co.uk>, Simon H Le G Bisson
<si...@fehen.demon.co.uk> writes

>Groups I know of include Edinburgh (I'm sure Steve will give details),

There's a web page: http://members.aol.com/ForthSF/ or similar, from
which I quote:

The Forth SF Group is probably Edinburgh's oldest surviving SF meeting.
It meets weekly in McGuffies Bar in Market Street, behind Waverley
Station. McGuffies Bar is the street level bar of the Doric Tavern and
is situated just 20 yards from the roundabout junction at the bottom of
Cockburn Street and Waverley Bridge, just opposite the Tattoo booking
office. Meeting time is every Tuesday at 9.00 pm usually in the back
corner of the bar

There are also pictures of some members of the group -- they've not got
mine yet, though, so the site is still safe for persons of sensitive
disposition (okay, the scary Forth pictures are on Nojay's web site).

>AFAIR the Bath group died after most of the group left the area...

What did you expect with that dirty great 'No Parking' sign?

Steve
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Mike Cheater

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In article <35532dce...@news.demon.co.uk>, Simon H Le G Bisson
<si...@fehen.demon.co.uk> writes
>Groups I know of include Edinburgh (I'm sure Steve will give details),
>Bristol, Cambridge and one or two small London groups. There's also
>the Portsmouth mob...

The "Portsmouth Mob" (officially the SHSFG) meet on the second and
fourth Tuesdays of each month at The Magpie, Fratton Road, Portsmouth, a
few minutes walk from Fratton Station. People turn up from about 7-00
pm.

Mob rule includes publishing a couple of Fanzines (although official
group zine Cyberspace seems to have died), forming the bulk of a couple
of con comms, drinking the pub dry, planning the groups 18th birthday
party and organising a twelve point plan for Easter Con committee
members :-)


--
Mike Cheater

xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff

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There was nothing else that Martin Stewart <martin....@bt.net>
could do. The odds were against them and they had only until Tue, 05
May 1998 16:14:08 GMT before the device detonated. Taking a last look
at the others the Commander turned and spoke:

][ I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised to hear that Babylon5 fans are


][ having meetings. I should realise by now just how diverse UK fandom
][ really is.

There is a full history, on the URL mentioned. Paul Harper (who has
recently joined us here) is the man attributed with starting it all,
Morgan's been to a few, and I've sold t-shirts :->

][ I'm glad to hear that you are following the trusted formula of drink and
][ little mention of SF.

A bit like this group will be sometimes, I hope...of course, a virtual
beer would be a good idea...

:->


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xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff

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There was nothing else that Martin Stewart <martin....@bt.net>
could do. The odds were against them and they had only until Tue, 05
May 1998 16:17:14 GMT before the device detonated. Taking a last look

at the others the Commander turned and spoke:

][ It's really good to hear from you. I'm glad to see how widely read
][ uk.people.sf-fans is.

Well, as it hasn't actually been up for a week yet, I'm impressed not
only with the number of posts, but the diversity of it's
"collective"!!!

xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff

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There was nothing else that Steve Glover <st...@fell.demon.co.uk>
could do. The odds were against them and they had only until Tue, 5
May 1998 18:07:09 +0100 before the device detonated. Taking a last

look at the others the Commander turned and spoke:

][ The Forth SF Group is probably Edinburgh's oldest surviving SF meeting.


][ It meets weekly in McGuffies Bar in Market Street, behind Waverley
][ Station. McGuffies Bar is the street level bar of the Doric Tavern and
][ is situated just 20 yards from the roundabout junction at the bottom of
][ Cockburn Street and Waverley Bridge, just opposite the Tattoo booking
][ office. Meeting time is every Tuesday at 9.00 pm usually in the back
][ corner of the bar

I know that place...but my question is, how far away from this is the
Claremont Bar on East Claremont Street? Until now, the only SF group I
knew of in Edinburgh were the Edinburgh Alliance, who meat at the
Claremont (I think) on Tuesday's too...do the two have any contact, I
wonder?

It's becoming increasingly apparent that the "gap" between "media" SF
and more Traditional SF gaterings is a LOT wider than I thought...
which frankly amazes me, as we're all playing for the same team, in
effect...

I wonder how many other places have many groups going on together and
I wonder whether each knoes of the others presence?

Jim Trash

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In article <355049d8....@news.demon.co.uk>, Barry Platt <bp55135.2
8...@boognish.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 05 May 1998 16:17:14 GMT, Martin Stewart
><martin....@bt.net> emitted the following:

>
>>I have yet to hear reports of the Cambridge Group which formed after
>>Alex McClintock moved up there. Does anyone know how it is going?
>
>I'm not sure that ever got off the ground - I haven't seen Alex around
>for a long time though (not since I bumped into him soon after he
>moved here). If anybody knows anything about a Cambridge group, I
>would be interested.

Yes, I went to one of their pub meets some time back.
Austin Benson is the man to ask about this and Alex McClintock should
still know what they're up to even though he's moved out of the area.
The pub in which they meet serves the most delicious Thai food and
fairly decent beer too. I think it was 'Speckled Hen' when I was there.
About a dozen people turned up.


http://www.scream.demon.co.uk Jim Trash

Mike Scott

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 14:07:30 GMT, sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk (SAB
The "Stuff Mistress") wrote:

>I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
>no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!

There's something in Walthamstow. I don't have details, but I'm sure


Alison will be along in a minute to provide them.

--
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mi...@moose.demon.co.uk
http://www.moose.demon.co.uk

Mike Scott

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 13:34:14 GMT, Martin Stewart <martin....@bt.net>
wrote:

>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.
>

>I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
>interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
>to.
>

>I realise the bulk of replies will be that people just meet up down the
>pub for a sociable drink, but it would be nice to know that we aren't
>the only ones.

The Warrington SF Group meets on the first and third Thursdays of the
month, and is indeed just meeting up down the pub for a socable drink.
All welcome, email me for details.

Steve Glover

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In article <35566458...@news.demon.co.uk>, xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff
<sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk> writes

>][ The Forth SF Group is probably Edinburgh's oldest surviving SF meeting.
>][ It meets weekly in McGuffies Bar in Market Street, behind Waverley
>][ Station. McGuffies Bar is the street level bar of the Doric Tavern and
>][ is situated just 20 yards from the roundabout junction at the bottom of
>][ Cockburn Street and Waverley Bridge, just opposite the Tattoo booking
>][ office. Meeting time is every Tuesday at 9.00 pm usually in the back
>][ corner of the bar
>
>I know that place...but my question is, how far away from this is the
>Claremont Bar on East Claremont Street? Until now, the only SF group I
>knew of in Edinburgh were the Edinburgh Alliance, who meat at the
>Claremont (I think) on Tuesday's too...do the two have any contact, I
>wonder?

I understand that the Claremont has a different sf themed meeting each
night of the week. The EA used to be Sunday, AIRI.

There's also the Edinburgh Uni crowd (Thursdays in The Pioneer,
Newington) and a randomn bunch of Usual Suspects somewhere on Fridays
(but skiffy ain't the raison d'etre for that one)...

Steve, late for the pub ;-)

--
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Steve Glover

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In article <35566458...@news.demon.co.uk>, xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff
<sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk> writes
>It's becoming increasingly apparent that the "gap" between "media" SF
>and more Traditional SF gaterings is a LOT wider than I thought...
>which frankly amazes me, as we're all playing for the same team, in
>effect...

I think it's at least partly a size effect -- when you can't get
everyone around the same table, there's less incentive to meet in the
same place on the same night, and people split by interest group...

>I wonder how many other places have many groups going on together and
>I wonder whether each knoes of the others presence?

Good Question: Edinburgh and Leeds each have three groups with only
partial overlaps (fannish and 'media', with a Uni group that overlaps
each slightly)

Steve, who should have resisted the temptation to upload stuff before
going out ('cos I'm going to have to do it again in a minute)

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Alan Scobbie

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xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff wrote in message
<35566458...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>I wonder how many other places have many groups going on together and
>I wonder whether each knoes of the others presence?


I often go along to The Away Team and the Glasgow Alliance, Star Trek
and B5 groups in, wait for it, Glasgow. And I'm pretty sure they know
of each other's existence.

I'll be moving through to Edinburgh later this year, what does the
Edinburgh Alliance get upto- If it is anything like the one Babblings
I've attended count me in.

"For the thing I greatly feared has come upon me. And what I dreaded
has happened to me, I am not at ease, nor am I quiet, I have no rest for
trouble comes"
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Barry Platt

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On Tue, 5 May 1998 20:38:26 +0100, Jim Trash <j...@scream.demon.co.uk>
emitted the following:

>In article <355049d8....@news.demon.co.uk>, Barry Platt <bp55135.2
>8...@boognish.demon.co.uk> writes

{Re: Cambridge meet]


>
>Yes, I went to one of their pub meets some time back.
>Austin Benson is the man to ask about this and Alex McClintock should
>still know what they're up to even though he's moved out of the area.
>The pub in which they meet serves the most delicious Thai food and
>fairly decent beer too. I think it was 'Speckled Hen' when I was there.
>About a dozen people turned up.

Wouldn't be The Wrestler's on Newmarket Road would it? If so, it's
within staggering distance...

Barry
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Tony Blakeway

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Well it was Tue, 05 May 1998 19:41:00 GMT, as Baby Spice whispered
sweet nothings into my ear mi...@moose.demon.co.uk (Mike Scott)
disturbed the moment.....typical :


>The Warrington SF Group meets on the first and third Thursdays of the
>month, and is indeed just meeting up down the pub for a socable drink.
>All welcome, email me for details.

Wow, worked in the damned place for 8 years and never even heard of
such a thing.

Go on Mike, give it a public plug...everyone else has

<-:


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Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <354E3F...@anansi.demon.co.uk>, Vicky
<vi...@anansi.demon.co.uk> said:

>Mike Scott wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 05 May 1998 14:07:30 GMT, sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk (SAB
>> The "Stuff Mistress") wrote:
>>
>> >I'm still waiting to hear about any SF Meets in the Essex Area: and if
>> >no-one comes up with a venue I may be forced to organise summat!
>>
>> There's something in Walthamstow. I don't have details, but I'm sure
>> Alison will be along in a minute to provide them.
>>
>
>Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!

As does half of London fandom.

When they don't live in Reading, of course.

;-)

Alison Scott

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mi...@moose.demon.co.uk (Mike Scott) wrote:

>There's something in Walthamstow. I don't have details, but I'm sure
>Alison will be along in a minute to provide them.

Yeah, but I'm not actually going to it at present. It's at the
Windmill (somewhere in Walthamstow) on the Tuesday after the Tun
(which means the Tuesday after the first Thursday). There are usually
between 6 & 10 people, just having a drink and a larf, from about
7:30ish. I despise the pub (which is filthy and doesn't sell beer,
though is admittedly blessedly quiet, and no bloody wonder), so
although I live in Walthamstow, I won't be going back.

The Cambridge meetings which somebody's mentioned somewhere else on
this thread do exist, indeed at the Wrestler's on Newmarket Road;
they're monthly, and I can't remember what day they're on.


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Mike Ford

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 15:21:48 GMT, si...@fehen.demon.co.uk (Simon
H Le G Bisson) wrote:


>Groups I know of include Edinburgh (I'm sure Steve will give details),
>Bristol, Cambridge and one or two small London groups. There's also
>the Portsmouth mob...

Well, the genuine, original Leeds group still meets sociably
down the pub in a very occasional kind of way. We even have an
email bounce for announcing meetings -- if anybody lurking is
interested, email me privately and I'll pass on details.

A very small subgroup of us also do the Wednesday-night pub quiz
every week (nearly) in a different pub, for which fresh blood
would be very welcome -- it's far too bloody long since we last
won the jackpot! Virtually no SF here except that we tend to
use book titles for our team names.

--
Mike Ford m...@mcgoff.karoo.co.uk
Leeds, UK

Jim Trash

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In article <354f84d4...@news.demon.co.uk>, Barry Platt <bp55135.289
@boognish.demon.co.uk> writes

>Wouldn't be The Wrestler's on Newmarket Road would it? If so, it's
>within staggering distance...

Bells are ringing all over the place so either I've blundered into a
cathedral on a Sunday morning or this is indeed the place.
Now you've just got to track down when.
I think it was a Monday I went.
Possibly first of the month.

Possibly not

erm ...

http://www.scream.demon.co.uk Jim Trash

Simon H Le G Bisson

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 16:17:14 GMT, Martin Stewart
<martin....@bt.net> wrote:

>I have yet to hear reports of the Cambridge Group which formed after
>Alex McClintock moved up there. Does anyone know how it is going?

Going quite well, last I heard. There should be someone along with
detals any moment now I'm sure...

S.

--

Simon H Le G Bisson

Martin Stewart

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xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff wrote:

> It's becoming increasingly apparent that the "gap" between "media" SF
> and more Traditional SF gaterings is a LOT wider than I thought...
> which frankly amazes me, as we're all playing for the same team, in
> effect...
>

> I wonder how many other places have many groups going on together and
> I wonder whether each knoes of the others presence?

I think the "gap" is probably less wide in local SF circles than it is
in the austere world of traditional SF (the Ton etc.). Local SF is a
circling of the wagons in places where local bars put more effort into
putting football onto wide screens than they do into encouraging
literary gatherings.

I was surprised last night (at our monthly Polaris meeting) just how
many different forms of SF can be found at a local SF group. Anime, Star
Trek, traditional SF, the whole range of media fans can all be found
exchanging views.

I've always felt that perhaps communication between local groups was
more important than the polarised efforts of national groups (like the
BSFA etc).

Martin

John Richards

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xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff wrote:
>
>
> It's becoming increasingly apparent that the "gap" between "media" SF
> and more Traditional SF gaterings is a LOT wider than I thought...
> which frankly amazes me, as we're all playing for the same team, in
> effect...
>
> I wonder how many other places have many groups going on together and
> I wonder whether each knoes of the others presence?
>

The SHSFG does tend to subdivide into "media" fen, "literary" fen and
the generalists. However the generalists have definite control.

Actually there is rather more traffic between the various groups in the
Portsmouth area than there has been in the past. The "Star Fleet Command
Shuttlecraft *USS Merlin*" was launched by members of the SHSFG and kept
afloat with a grant from the INTERVENTION surplus.

The other Star Trek group in Porchester *USS Victory* is a subset of
some group who are currently at war with "Star Fleet Command" and the
"Captain" won't let his members join any other local group. (We've
promised those that do show up at Merlin or the SHSFG that we won't tell
him.)

I believe that the Cult TV group in Southsea has collapsed and if the
DWAS branch in Cosham is still there it's being very very quiet.

On the other hand I'm not at all sure that I would agree that we're all
playing for the same team. As someone who collects comics, films, books
and the occasional TV series I'm not sure that I would be able to draw
an analogy between what atracts me to items in one medium and that which
draws me to another. Certainly the majority of TV SF leaves me
absolutely cold (generally for reasons that are rooted firmly in the
corporate and financial realities of the system). And the fact that the
genre that I spend my time in is, increasingly, being identified with
this stuff occasionally appauls me. I look at the SF and Fantasy
sections of major bookshops overloaded with film/TV and video game tie
ins and ask myself how much of this stuff do I really want to be
associated with.

--
JFW Richards South Hants Science Fiction Group
Portsmouth, Hants 2nd and 4th Tuesdays
England. UK. The Magpie, Fratton Road, Portsmouth

Fran Dowd

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In article <354F1539...@bt.net>, Martin Stewart
<martin....@bt.net> writes

>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.
>
>I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
>interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
>to.
>
>I realise the bulk of replies will be that people just meet up down the
>pub for a sociable drink, but it would be nice to know that we aren't
>the only ones.
Sheffield SF Group meets every Wednesday night at Seamus O'Donnells in
the city centre (opposite the MacDonalds below Debenahams on the Moor),
we usually get there around 9.30. Now that Intuition is over we are
turning our attention to expanding the group and having monthly meetings
that start earlier and *do things*, speakers, games etc. Core attenders
number around eight, but we have a few more part-timers.

As a group, we have a tendency to get involved in conrunning, though
we've only done one in Sheffield so far.
--
Fran Dowd

Mark Sinclair

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In message <354F1539...@bt.net> Martin Stewart wrote:

> This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
> other local SF groups.
>
> I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
> interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
> to.
>
> I realise the bulk of replies will be that people just meet up down the
> pub for a sociable drink, but it would be nice to know that we aren't
> the only ones.
>

Well I'm involved in running the Genesis SF group in Tadley, a few
miles north of Basingstoke, which has been going for a couple of
years now. Next meeting is Sunday 17th May for those who may be
interested.

Does anyone keep any form of list of local groups, I'm sure it would
help everyone if one existed.

--
Mark Sinclair


Jim Trash

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In article <354fc978....@news.karoo.co.uk>, Mike Ford
<m...@mcgoff.karoo.co.uk> writes

>Well, the genuine, original Leeds group still meets sociably
>down the pub in a very occasional kind of way. We even have an
>email bounce for announcing meetings -- if anybody lurking is
>interested, email me privately and I'll pass on details.

It is worth mentioning that, although most of the Leeds group have been
or are readers of SF that it isn't the most accessible of groups for an
SF enthusiast. I think they're a great bunch of people but I suspect
that the best point from which to approach Leeds group is from fanzine
fandom. There was a chap at last meet though who said he'd started a
creative writing group in Leeds which had regular pub meets. This has,
apparently, a strong SF bias and looks to be gathering momentum.

Mike, can you remember any details ?


http://www.scream.demon.co.uk Jim Trash

Chris Malme

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In article <AuhE6HAz...@sidhen.demon.co.uk>, Morgan LH Gallagher <Mor...@sidhen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In this post <354E3F...@anansi.demon.co.uk>, Vicky
> <vi...@anansi.demon.co.uk> said:

> >Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!
>
> As does half of London fandom.

Walthamstow people might wish to note that I will soon be moving from
Brighton/Hove to Chingford.

Though for the moment, I will continue to be working in Manchester during
the week.

Chris

xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff

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mins...@filklore.demon.co.uk (Chris Malme) mumbled:

][ Walthamstow people might wish to note that I will soon be moving from
][ Brighton/Hove to Chingford.

That puts you in Essex??? Or is that Chigwell???

Anyway, another victim for the Essex slaughter...

Mark Sinclair

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In message <355075...@panorama.panorama.com> John Richards wrote:

> Actually there is rather more traffic between the various groups in the
> Portsmouth area than there has been in the past. The "Star Fleet Command
> Shuttlecraft *USS Merlin*" was launched by members of the SHSFG and kept
> afloat with a grant from the INTERVENTION surplus.
>
> The other Star Trek group in Porchester *USS Victory* is a subset of
> some group who are currently at war with "Star Fleet Command" and the
> "Captain" won't let his members join any other local group. (We've
> promised those that do show up at Merlin or the SHSFG that we won't tell
> him.)
>

The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who
seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here
from Starfleet?). Personnally I fail to see the benefits of joining
one of these large umbrella groups, but if someone would like to
educate me I would be interested.


--
Mark Sinclair


Mike Ford

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On Wed, 6 May 1998 18:48:25 +0100, Jim Trash
<j...@scream.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <354fc978....@news.karoo.co.uk>, Mike Ford
><m...@mcgoff.karoo.co.uk> writes
>>Well, the genuine, original Leeds group still meets sociably
>>down the pub in a very occasional kind of way. We even have an
>>email bounce for announcing meetings -- if anybody lurking is
>>interested, email me privately and I'll pass on details.
>
>It is worth mentioning that, although most of the Leeds group have been
>or are readers of SF that it isn't the most accessible of groups for an
>SF enthusiast. I think they're a great bunch of people but I suspect
>that the best point from which to approach Leeds group is from fanzine
>fandom.

Mmmmm -- don't know about that, but it's certainly true we tend
to talk about anything *but* SF!! Any newbie happy with that as
a premise should fit right in....

> There was a chap at last meet though who said he'd started a
>creative writing group in Leeds which had regular pub meets. This has,
>apparently, a strong SF bias and looks to be gathering momentum.
>
>Mike, can you remember any details ?

Yes, that was Sean Wilcock, ex Leeds University SF Society like
so many of us. Again, if anyone interested is lurking, I have
an email address for him and can probably also dig out a copy of
the message he sent out over the leeds-sf-group list when trying
to set this up.

Paul Harper

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sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk (xSaBx, Mistress of Stuff) said :

>There was nothing else that Martin Stewart <martin....@bt.net>
>could do. The odds were against them and they had only until Tue, 05
>May 1998 16:14:08 GMT before the device detonated. Taking a last look


>at the others the Commander turned and spoke:
>

>][ I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised to hear that Babylon5 fans are
>][ having meetings. I should realise by now just how diverse UK fandom
>][ really is.
>
>There is a full history, on the URL mentioned. Paul Harper (who has
>recently joined us here) is the man attributed with starting it all,
>Morgan's been to a few, and I've sold t-shirts :->

Indeed. In fact I am sitting here at work wearing my favourite
"black-on-black" Shadow T-shirt right now. Nifty it is, too!

>][ I'm glad to hear that you are following the trusted formula of drink and
>][ little mention of SF.
>
>A bit like this group will be sometimes, I hope...of course, a virtual
>beer would be a good idea...

So long as it only gives us virtual hangovers afterwards...

Paul.
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ali...@fuggles.demon.co.uk (Alison Scott) said :

>Yeah, but I'm not actually going to it at present. It's at the
>Windmill (somewhere in Walthamstow) on the Tuesday after the Tun
>(which means the Tuesday after the first Thursday). There are usually
>between 6 & 10 people, just having a drink and a larf, from about
>7:30ish. I despise the pub (which is filthy and doesn't sell beer,
>though is admittedly blessedly quiet, and no bloody wonder), so
>although I live in Walthamstow, I won't be going back.

Perhaps between the people in the group we can get something else started.
College Arms anyone ?

All the Essex people can easily get there as well - it's not far off the
arse end of the A12. Cambridge people as well (Arse end of the M11).

Now all we need is a house-trained sci fi fan bar manager with a video and
a big screen...

Paul Harper

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Vicky <vi...@anansi.demon.co.uk> said :

>Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!

Hey! Me Too Me Too Me Too !!

>What's all this about 'something in Walthamstow'then?

Yeah - do tell !

Chris Croughton

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Chris Malme wrote:
>
> Walthamstow people might wish to note that I will soon be moving from
> Brighton/Hove to Chingford.
>
> Though for the moment, I will continue to be working in Manchester during
> the week.

The Windmill group (sorry, Waltham Forest SF Group or some such
high-falutin' title, but really the Windmill drinking crowd)
is mostly (possibly all) people you know - Rafe, Teddy, Gail
etc. I think it's still on the Tuesday after the 'Ton (so
the Tuesday after the first Thursday, which is either the first
or second Tuesday of the month; we like to keep these things
simple). Unfortunately it's a bit far to travel from Ulm <g>...

Chris C

Chris Croughton

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Paul Harper wrote:
>
> Vicky <vi...@anansi.demon.co.uk> said :
>
> >Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!
>
> Hey! Me Too Me Too Me Too !!
>
> >What's all this about 'something in Walthamstow'then?
>
> Yeah - do tell !

OK, it's on the Tuesday after the first Thursday of each month,
and basically is a get-together and drinking session (I can't
tell you what the beer is like since I don't drink the stuff).
People get there whenever, roughly 8pm although there's often
someone there earlier. It's (apparently back) at the Windmill.
Directions:

From the station, go up to Hoe Street and straight across
and up the road on the opposite side. Carry on to the first
road on the right (I think) and turn right down that. Across
another road, and at the next crossing the Windmill should be
on the left hand corner.

(If it isn't then you need to turn left and go up to the next
junction - I recognise it by sight.)

Contact Rafe Culpin (ra...@cix.co.uk), he usually knows what's
going on (and what the current drink/food situation is like
there - sometimes they have bar snacks and sometimes not).

Chris C

Will Sheward

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Paul Harper <pa...@sifnos94.demon.co.NOSPAMuk> wrote in article
<355f748a...@news.demon.co.uk>...

> Perhaps between the people in the group we can get something else
started.
> College Arms anyone ?
>
> All the Essex people can easily get there as well - it's not far off the
> arse end of the A12. Cambridge people as well (Arse end of the M11).
>
> Now all we need is a house-trained sci fi fan bar manager with a video
and
> a big screen...

Hope you're getting LOTS of free drinks for all this plugging Paul :-)

Or has Bob now officially employed you as Page's PR rep?

Will.

Paul Harper

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"Will Sheward" <wi...@lcars.demon.co.uk> said :

>Hope you're getting LOTS of free drinks for all this plugging Paul :-)

No no no, you fuel - in Warfamstow ! :-)

>Or has Bob now officially employed you as Page's PR rep?

It does seem to be working out that way !!

Gary Farber

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In <19980506....@rovanion.demon.co.uk> Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[. . .]
: The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who

: seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here
: from Starfleet?). Personnally I fail to see the benefits of joining
: one of these large umbrella groups, but if someone would like to
: educate me I would be interested.

You get to call each other by truly ridiculous titles.
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On Wed, 06 May 1998 18:38:22 GMT, ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk (Mark
Sinclair) wrote:

>In message <355075...@panorama.panorama.com> John Richards wrote:
>

<snippage>


>>
>> The other Star Trek group in Porchester *USS Victory* is a subset of
>> some group who are currently at war with "Star Fleet Command" and the

>The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who
>seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here

I thought that was a separate, 3rd group altogether, with a more
generic SF media focus. I thought there were already 2 competing Star
Trek umbrella organisations, although since I have never had anything
to do with any of them, I have no details.

Cheers, Eddie Cochrane
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Martin Stewart

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Fran Dowd wrote:
> Sheffield SF Group meets every Wednesday night at Seamus O'Donnells in
> the city centre (opposite the MacDonalds below Debenahams on the Moor),

I remember years ago going along to an SF group meeting in Sheffield
which met at the pub in the city station. They then moved the whole
meeting to a fish and chip shop, possibly the strangest venue for an SF
group meeting.

Martin

Stephen J. Gowdy

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Hi Martin,
Here is yet another one... We are the Edinburgh Alliance, a
predominatly B5 fan club who meet in a pub. We do also sometimes meet in
different pubs (in addition to our standard Sunday night Claremont
meeting) or houses. You can get an idea of what we get upto on our
webpages at;

http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~gowdy/SciFi/EdAli/

regards,

Stephen.

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On Fri, 08 May 1998 12:55:35 +0100, "Stephen J. Gowdy"
<go...@ph.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Here is yet another one... We are the Edinburgh Alliance, a
> predominatly B5 fan club who meet in a pub. We do also sometimes meet in
> different pubs (in addition to our standard Sunday night Claremont
> meeting) or houses. You can get an idea of what we get upto on our
> webpages at;
>
> http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~gowdy/SciFi/EdAli/
>


This lot are, in fact, doing a "gig" in London in June...which I'm
organising...based on a CD of B5 parodies they recorded in the last
few months. If you check out the above URL there are more details
there...this promises to be a VERY enjoyable evening, and I'm sorta
acting as the MC type person, so if you haven't met me before and you
wonder what I'm like in Real Life (TM) here's an opportunity to meet
me and possibly the nicest bunch of people you'll have met since the
last lot...

I thought it was probably a bit unfair to post an advert immediately
after the Group started, but with a few days and lots of posts behind
us...I think it's probably safe now. The details are as follows:


Date: SATURDAY (note!) June 13th 1998
Doors Open: 6PM
The Venue: The White Swan Public House, Pimlico, London
(opposite Pimlico Tube Station)

To pre-book your ticket, PLEASE e-mail
alli...@steves.org.uk
You will receive a mail by return, informing you of details of where
to send your money.

Or send a cheque for the number of tickets you require, made payable
to SA Baker, to the following address (remembering to include an SAE):

Oh Lordy, it's the Scottish Lot doing a Show!
9, Oak Walk,
Belfairs,
Leigh on Sea,
Essex SS9 4UH.

The ticket price covers:

Your Food for the Evening (in the form of a Buffet)
Equipment Hire
Transportation costs of the Alliance from Edinburgh (14 at last
count. It should be said that they will be covering some of

this ourselves. They believe that it will be a fun night for all.
PLUS a donation towards Cancer Research.


Morgan, in the interests of fairness it's time to post the Wrap Party
info...plus indeed anyone else who's organising anything is allowed to
post it here too.

<Gratuitous advert over>

...David, if you want to complain, I will TOTALLY understand...

:->


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In message <6itt9j$m...@panix2.panix.com> Gary Farber wrote:

> In <19980506....@rovanion.demon.co.uk> Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [. . .]

> : The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who


> : seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here

> : from Starfleet?). Personnally I fail to see the benefits of joining
> : one of these large umbrella groups, but if someone would like to
> : educate me I would be interested.
>
> You get to call each other by truly ridiculous titles.

I thought they only used Star Trek ranks etc, or have I been missing
something.

--
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Mark Sinclair

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In message <3552d282...@newshost.dsbc.icl.co.uk> Eddie Cochrane wrote:

> On Wed, 06 May 1998 18:38:22 GMT, ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk (Mark
> Sinclair) wrote:
>
> >In message <355075...@panorama.panorama.com> John Richards wrote:
> >
> <snippage>
> >>
> >> The other Star Trek group in Porchester *USS Victory* is a subset of
> >> some group who are currently at war with "Star Fleet Command" and the

> >The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who
> >seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here

> I thought that was a separate, 3rd group altogether, with a more
> generic SF media focus. I thought there were already 2 competing Star
> Trek umbrella organisations, although since I have never had anything
> to do with any of them, I have no details.
>

I've only come across Starfleet, as I know it there isn't any other
Trek specific umbrella organisation, at least in Britain anyway. You're
right about Starbase but they still have quite a bit of the Starfleet
heritage in the organisation from what I've seen, which is not in itself
a bad thing, just an observation.

I'll repeat my request for anyone from Starfleet or Starbase to join in
as I'm honestly interested in how these larger organisations are
intended to operate.

> Cheers, Eddie Cochrane
> Remove _NOSPAM_ to reply by email
> Redemption'99 A Blakes 7/Babylon 5 Convention Feb 26-28 1999
> http:\\www.smof.com\redemption


Should see you there hopefully as this should be the first Convention
we're organising to go to as a club (Genesis SF that is)

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Eddie Cochrane

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On Fri, 08 May 1998 14:55:47 GMT, ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk (Mark
Sinclair) wrote:

>I've only come across Starfleet, as I know it there isn't any other
>Trek specific umbrella organisation, at least in Britain anyway. You're
>right about Starbase but they still have quite a bit of the Starfleet
>heritage in the organisation from what I've seen, which is not in itself
>a bad thing, just an observation.

I know of the British Starfleet Confederacy, the Starfleet Registry,
either or neither of which may be associated with the big US group
Starfleet International which certainly has UK members (I've met one).

I know StarBase started off with the Reading/Thames Valley based USS
Runnymede, but I've never seen any sign of it other than locally.

>I'll repeat my request for anyone from Starfleet or Starbase to join in
>as I'm honestly interested in how these larger organisations are
>intended to operate.

Me too, but only out of morbid curiosity.

>
>> Redemption'99 A Blakes 7/Babylon 5 Convention Feb 26-28 1999
>> http:\\www.smof.com\redemption
>
>
>Should see you there hopefully as this should be the first Convention
>we're organising to go to as a club (Genesis SF that is)

Excellent! I can feel my personal financial responsibility as a
committee member reducing as we speak.

Marcus Hill

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Chris Malme wrote:

> Though for the moment, I will continue to be working in Manchester during
> the week.
>

Then you (and any other folks round here) might like to come along to
FONT, the group of strange sf fans who meet on the second and fourth
Thursday of each month in Wetherspoon's on Piccadilly Gardens. We'll
be the group of people who look like sf fans sitting towards the back
of the pub.

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Alan Fleming

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On Tue, 5 May 1998 17:40:23 +0100, Morgan LH Gallagher
<Mor...@sidhen.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>Isn't FOKT still running in Glasgow?

Certainly hope it is. First group I went to, some 12 years ago..

Alan.

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On Tue, 05 May 1998 13:34:14 GMT, Martin Stewart
<martin....@bt.net> wrote:

>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.
>
>I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
>interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
>to.

Do you know if there's anything a touch further up the M1? I'm living
in Milton Keynes these days.

Wandering St Albans way for a pint is a bit of a pain, considering it
involves the use of car, thus limiting alcohol intake..

Tony Towers

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On Wed, 6 May 1998 00:33:07 +0100, Morgan LH Gallagher
<Mor...@sidhen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In this post <354E3F...@anansi.demon.co.uk>, Vicky

><vi...@anansi.demon.co.uk> said:
>>Walthamstow....I live in Walthamstow!
>
>As does half of London fandom.
>
>When they don't live in Reading, of course.

Grrr. Reading != London.

How many of us are in this little town of ours, then? I can think of
half a dozen that I know, but there's probably loads of others.
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In article <3551ef4...@news.demon.co.uk>, sa...@simple-signshop.demon.co.uk wrote:
> mins...@filklore.demon.co.uk (Chris Malme) mumbled:
>
> ][ Walthamstow people might wish to note that I will soon be moving from
> ][ Brighton/Hove to Chingford.
>
> That puts you in Essex??? Or is that Chigwell???

Used to be Essex, now is in the London Borough of Waltham Forest, alongside
Walthamstow and Leyton. i was born in Romford, though, so definately an
Essex lad.

> Anyway, another victim for the Essex slaughter...

Indeed, certainly close enough to come to any Essex events if I am about.

Of course, living in London and working in Manchester means that I can
potentially benefit from either of the Dim Sum venues that folk are
proposing <g>

Chris

Chris Malme

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In article <35517D...@amc.de>, Chris Croughton <crou...@amc.de> wrote:

> Chris Malme wrote:
> >
> > Walthamstow people might wish to note that I will soon be moving from
> > Brighton/Hove to Chingford.
> >
> > Though for the moment, I will continue to be working in Manchester during
> > the week.
>
> The Windmill group (sorry, Waltham Forest SF Group or some such
> high-falutin' title, but really the Windmill drinking crowd)
> is mostly (possibly all) people you know - Rafe, Teddy, Gail
> etc. I think it's still on the Tuesday after the 'Ton (so
> the Tuesday after the first Thursday, which is either the first
> or second Tuesday of the month; we like to keep these things
> simple). Unfortunately it's a bit far to travel from Ulm <g>...

I went to a couple some years back, but thanks for reminding me of the
details. Unfortunately, at present I am only around Chingford/Walthamstow at
weekend times, so will still miss the Tuesday meets. However, hoping people
will be happy to meet up on the odd Saturday for some hayhem, once I get
established.

Chris

Gary Farber

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In <19980508....@rovanion.demon.co.uk>
Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: In message <6itt9j$m...@panix2.panix.com> Gary Farber wrote:

: > In <19980506....@rovanion.demon.co.uk> Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: > [. . .]

: > : The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who


: > : seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here

: > : from Starfleet?). Personnally I fail to see the benefits of joining


: > : one of these large umbrella groups, but if someone would like to
: > : educate me I would be interested.
: >
: > You get to call each other by truly ridiculous titles.

: I thought they only used Star Trek ranks etc, or have I been missing
: something.

That's what I said.

Steve Glover

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In article <355339...@ma.man.ac.uk>, Marcus Hill
<mar...@ma.man.ac.uk> writes

>Then you (and any other folks round here) might like to come along to
>FONT, the group of strange sf fans who meet on the second and fourth
>Thursday of each month in Wetherspoon's on Piccadilly Gardens. We'll
>be the group of people who look like sf fans sitting towards the back
>of the pub.

I'm not sure what was weirder, being recognised unshaggy, shorn and sans
con badge, or discovering I'd a mention in the fanzine for correctly
expanding the acronym...

And how is he, these days?

Steve
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Steve Glover

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In article <3552F2B7...@ph.ed.ac.uk>, Stephen J. Gowdy
<go...@ph.ed.ac.uk> writes
>Hi Martin,

> Here is yet another one... We are the Edinburgh Alliance, a
>predominatly B5 fan club who meet in a pub. We do also sometimes meet in
>different pubs (in addition to our standard Sunday night Claremont
>meeting) or houses. You can get an idea of what we get upto on our
>webpages at;

Hey, howsabout you lot come and join us in McGuffies next Tuesday?

Steve

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Chris Malme

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In article <355339...@ma.man.ac.uk>, Marcus Hill <mar...@ma.man.ac.uk> wrote:

> Chris Malme wrote:
>
> > Though for the moment, I will continue to be working in Manchester during
> > the week.

> Then you (and any other folks round here) might like to come along to


> FONT, the group of strange sf fans who meet on the second and fourth
> Thursday of each month in Wetherspoon's on Piccadilly Gardens. We'll
> be the group of people who look like sf fans sitting towards the back
> of the pub.

Excellent! See you there.

Chris

Mark Sinclair

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In message <6j0jec$i...@panix2.panix.com> Gary Farber wrote:

> In <19980508....@rovanion.demon.co.uk>
> Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> : In message <6itt9j$m...@panix2.panix.com> Gary Farber wrote:
>
> : > In <19980506....@rovanion.demon.co.uk> Mark Sinclair <ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> : > [. . .]
> : > : The group your thinking of is StarBase (nothing to do with me guv) who
> : > : seem are trying to set up their own group like StarFleet (anyone here
> : > : from Starfleet?). Personnally I fail to see the benefits of joining
> : > : one of these large umbrella groups, but if someone would like to
> : > : educate me I would be interested.
> : >
> : > You get to call each other by truly ridiculous titles.
>
> : I thought they only used Star Trek ranks etc, or have I been missing
> : something.
>
> That's what I said.

Fair enough I understand where you're coming from now, its just a shame
you're projecting an attitude that will reduce my chances of getting
a genuine answer from an actual member of one of these groups.

As I understand it the use of ranks can be of benefit to some clubs,
especially those with younger members as it can give a structure and
something to work for the club for. Personnally I wouldn't bother as
it also can have the failing that it holds back enthusiastic people
purely because they havn't been around long enough to get the points,
but I'm not going to be down on other people because they enjoy it.


Anyway none of this answers my question of what is the benefit for
individual clubs to join some larger organisation (does the BSFA come
anyway near this position BTW?).

--
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Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <35544b44...@news.demon.co.uk>, Alan Fleming
<a...@contract.co.uk> said:

>On Tue, 5 May 1998 17:40:23 +0100, Morgan LH Gallagher
><Mor...@sidhen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Isn't FOKT still running in Glasgow?
>
>Certainly hope it is. First group I went to, some 12 years ago..
>
>Alan.


<Starts counting on fingers>

God, I feel old.


--
Morgan

If you're uploading every time you read, and then uploading again. If
you've uploaded twice and nothing's come down, and you've decided to
resort to searching the Web for stimulation...it's time to go to bed!

TR

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>In this post <35544b44...@news.demon.co.uk>, Alan Fleming
><a...@contract.co.uk> said:
>>On Tue, 5 May 1998 17:40:23 +0100, Morgan LH Gallagher
>><Mor...@sidhen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Isn't FOKT still running in Glasgow?
>>
>>Certainly hope it is. First group I went to, some 12 years ago..
>>
>>Alan.

Although occasionally something trying to be FOKT surfaces, it really
died not long after the move to Cairns's bar sometime in the late-ish
Eighties and never recovered, especially as some sub-groups went to
other bars and some other misguided individuals went into even stranger
things like local politics in Edinburgh.

All too different from the heady days that I found back in '83, though
even then the "older hands" talked about the decline.

TR
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Morgan LH Gallagher

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In this post <35564d63...@news.demon.co.uk>, TR <?@?.?> said:
>All too different from the heady days that I found back in '83, though
>even then the "older hands" talked about the decline.


As opposed to the heady days of '80, when I joined.

And the older hands were still having the fight about who the real
'older hands' actually were....

;-)

Stephen J. Gowdy

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Hi Steve,
This Tuesday we're going round to our "Political Officier"'s flat for a
"special event", so we won't be able to make it. Some of us usually meet
in the Hogg's Head on a Tuesday, but I'm sure we could divert to
McGuffies the following Tuesday.

Vivianne

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In article <19980509....@rovanion.demon.co.uk>, Mark Sinclair
<ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk> wibbled ........

>Anyway none of this answers my question of what is the benefit for
>individual clubs to join some larger organisation (does the BSFA come
>anyway near this position BTW?).

Is the Birmingham Science Fiction Group still going. My husband used to
be a member some years ago - even saw Star Wars before the press
premier!!!! And met some good authors.


--
"We aliens, set apart, reach only with fantasies"

Simon H Le G Bisson

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On Sat, 09 May 1998 09:41:19 GMT, ma...@rovanion.demon.co.uk (Mark
Sinclair) wrote:


>Anyway none of this answers my question of what is the benefit for
>individual clubs to join some larger organisation (does the BSFA come
>anyway near this position BTW?).

No - it's a lot different. More a central point of contact for (IMHO
mainly literary) fans.

Well worth joining!

S.

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David Langford

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On Mon, 11 May 1998 10:01:03 +0100, Vivianne
<vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Is the Birmingham Science Fiction Group still going. My husband used to
>be a member some years ago - even saw Star Wars before the press
>premier!!!! And met some good authors.

It's still going (though I hear it nearly died last year) and just
published its 320th newsletter. E-mail enquiries to
bs...@bortas.demon.co.uk ...

Dave
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Alan Woodford

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On Mon, 11 May 1998 16:09:55 GMT, ans...@cix.co.uk (David Langford)
wrote:

>On Mon, 11 May 1998 10:01:03 +0100, Vivianne
><vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is the Birmingham Science Fiction Group still going. My husband used to
>>be a member some years ago - even saw Star Wars before the press
>>premier!!!! And met some good authors.
>
>It's still going (though I hear it nearly died last year) and just
>published its 320th newsletter. E-mail enquiries to
>bs...@bortas.demon.co.uk ...
>

That's right. We meet on the scond Friday of the month, currently at
the Britannia Hotel, on New Street.

Alan "Yes, I'm the bod on the end of that e-mail address" Woodford


Men in Frocks, protecting the Earth with mystical flummery!

Vivianne

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In article <35570a1e...@news.demon.co.uk>, David Langford
<ans...@cix.co.uk> wibbled ........

>On Mon, 11 May 1998 10:01:03 +0100, Vivianne
><vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is the Birmingham Science Fiction Group still going. My husband used to
>>be a member some years ago - even saw Star Wars before the press
>>premier!!!! And met some good authors.
>
>It's still going (though I hear it nearly died last year) and just
>published its 320th newsletter. E-mail enquiries to
>bs...@bortas.demon.co.uk ...
>
Thanks! I've passed the info onto my husband. He has some tapes he
made of various guest speakers at the group - Lionel Whatsisname was one
of them.

Vivianne

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In article <3557269...@news.demon.co.uk>, Alan Woodford
<al...@bortas.demon.co.uk> wibbled ........

>On Mon, 11 May 1998 16:09:55 GMT, ans...@cix.co.uk (David Langford)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 11 May 1998 10:01:03 +0100, Vivianne
>><vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Is the Birmingham Science Fiction Group still going. My husband used to
>>>be a member some years ago - even saw Star Wars before the press
>>>premier!!!! And met some good authors.
>>
>>It's still going (though I hear it nearly died last year) and just
>>published its 320th newsletter. E-mail enquiries to
>>bs...@bortas.demon.co.uk ...
>>
>
>That's right. We meet on the scond Friday of the month, currently at
>the Britannia Hotel, on New Street.
>
>Alan "Yes, I'm the bod on the end of that e-mail address" Woodford
>
>
Oooooooh great stuff! Were you a member in 1976 by any chance? :)

Alan Woodford

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Nope, 'fraid not. I was reading SF by the van-load, but I didn't join
the group until about 1993. We still have members from before then,
but most of the current bunch of reprobates joined in the '80s.

Alan "ah, the time I wasted, until I found fandom!" Woodford

Jonathan D Jones

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Subject:
Local SF groups
Date:
On Tue, 05 May 1998 at 13:34:14 GMT
Martin Stewart said to all at uk.people.sf-fans


>This would seem to be a good way of getting in touch with people from
>other local SF groups.
>
>I'm involved with the St.Albans SF group - Polaris, it would be
>interesting to find out what other local (non-student) SF groups are up
>to.
>

>I realise the bulk of replies will be that people just meet up down the
>pub for a sociable drink, but it would be nice to know that we aren't
>the only ones.
>
>Martin Stewart
>http://www.polaris.org

The Cardiff based club SF Fantasy Cardiff meets up quite regularly,
Pub meetings at the Pen and Wig pub and club meetings at the
Cathays Youth & Community Centre.

Pub meetings Wig Public House, No. 1, Park Grove, Cardiff, CF1 3BJ.
On the second and fouth Tuesdays of every month.

Club meetings are held every other Saturday at Cardiff's Cathays Youth & Community Centre,
Cathays Terrace Cathays Cardiff,CF2 4HX.

Between 12.30 pm and 4.30 pm. Meetings a alternate between general discussion,
"bring and watch" meetings, and Video Theme meetings. Tea and coffee are available

web site at
http://www.cf.ac.uk/ccin/main/ents/sffc/sffc.html


The club is mainly SF Media and Cult TV based, but a few of our club
members are members of other clubs such as ZZ9 and the BSFA.


Jonjo

Sarah F

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If we're on plugs, can I mention the online Star Trek group I'm in?
Starbase Orion, homepage as follows:

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/7849
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