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Can you catch swine flu from bacon?

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Colin Trunt

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Apr 25, 2009, 11:42:18 PM4/25/09
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Serious question.

I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
scientific proof.


Ian Jackson

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Apr 26, 2009, 3:23:27 AM4/26/09
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In message <uKQIl.89545$ga.5...@newsfe01.ams2>, Colin Trunt
<co...@trunt.com> writes

>Serious question.
>
>I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
>scientific proof.
>
Definitely safer. Listen carefully to it, and you'll hear the germs
coughing from the effects of the smoke. Avoid it like the plag..... like
the swine 'flu.
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Gareth

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Apr 26, 2009, 3:44:15 AM4/26/09
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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8017585.stm:

"Is it safe to eat pig meat?

Yes. There is no evidence that swine flu can be transmitted through
eating meat from infected animals.

However, it is essential to cook meat properly. A temperature of 70C
would be sure to kill the virus."

Aggreived

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Apr 26, 2009, 6:46:54 AM4/26/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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> Serious question.
>
> I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
> scientific proof.

This is a question that needs to be addressed - there are enough health
risks in a packet of smokey bacon flavour Wotsits as it is, without adding
swine flu to the list of noxious ingredients.

Personally, I'm taking no chances - visits to my Mother in Law have been
curtailed until the emergency is over.


Svenne

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Apr 26, 2009, 7:04:34 AM4/26/09
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Can Muslims catch swine flu, or is it haram?

Svenne

Steve Terry

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Apr 26, 2009, 8:52:10 AM4/26/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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> Serious question.
>
> I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
> scientific proof.
>
Generally Viruses need a living host, they die quickly in a dead one,
and are vulnerable to heating. So unless you are eating raw pig
that's alive, or has just been killed, you should be OK?

The real problem with this new outbreak of Swine flu
is it has jumped to being human to human infectious.
So watch out for people who look unwell and avoid contact

Good thing about quickly mutating viruses like this one,
is they tend to mutate to a safe form within 6 months

Steve Terry


Steve Firth

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Apr 26, 2009, 9:44:01 AM4/26/09
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Steve Terry <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:

> "Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
> news:uKQIl.89545$ga.5...@newsfe01.ams2...
> > Serious question.
> >
> > I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
> > scientific proof.
> >
> Generally Viruses need a living host, they die quickly in a dead one,
> and are vulnerable to heating.

Generally, you're far from correct.

Viruses have a range of thermal stability and those which have
Archaebacteria as hosts have been found to be stable at temperatures
closer to boiling than to 37C. SARS-associated corona virus has been
determined to be infective up to 51 days post-mortem, and SVD, foot and
mouth, bluetongue and other significant veterinary viruses have been
discovered in pasteurised serum and cooked meats.

> So unless you are eating raw pig
> that's alive, or has just been killed, you should be OK?

I wouldn't make such a statement, not even with the addition of a
question mark, presumably indicating your real uncertainty about the
apparently definitive statements you are making.



> The real problem with this new outbreak of Swine flu
> is it has jumped to being human to human infectious.
> So watch out for people who look unwell and avoid contact
>
> Good thing about quickly mutating viruses like this one,
> is they tend to mutate to a safe form within 6 months

Bullshit.

Brian Gaff

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Apr 26, 2009, 10:51:20 AM4/26/09
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Surely its a virus and would be destroyed by cooking anyway. The problem is
it is now in the human population and thus it spreads from person to person
just as any flu does.
Most strains of flu seem to have come from domesticated animals and quite a
lot from pigs. The problem with this strain is the way it affects the lungs.
Brian

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zaax

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Apr 26, 2009, 3:51:58 PM4/26/09
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Ian Jackson wrote:

Eating bacon and other pork products gives you ammunity - non pork
eaters are going to die like flies.

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Harry piper

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Apr 27, 2009, 8:49:47 AM4/27/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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> Serious question.
>
> I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
> scientific proof.
>avoid pork scratchings


Colin Trunt

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Apr 27, 2009, 1:10:21 PM4/27/09
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>
> Colin Trunt wrote:
>> Serious question.
>>
>> I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
>> scientific proof.
>>
>
> From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8017585.stm:
>
> "Is it safe to eat pig meat?
>
> Yes. There is no evidence that swine flu can be transmitted through
> eating meat from infected animals.

Is ther evidence that swine flu cannot be transmitted through


eating meat from infected animals.


>
> However, it is essential to cook meat properly. A temperature of 70C
> would be sure to kill the virus."


So it is contaminated and you can catch it from bacon.

Cheers I am back on the Turkey

Colin Trunt

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Apr 27, 2009, 1:14:26 PM4/27/09
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"Brian Gaff" <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Surely its a virus and would be destroyed by cooking anyway.


You buy bacon precooked????

Steve Terry

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Apr 27, 2009, 1:24:41 PM4/27/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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> "Gareth" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:afKdneqdReVRjWnU...@brightview.com...
<snip>

> So it is contaminated and you can catch it from bacon.
>
> Cheers I am back on the Turkey
>
You want to chance bird flu?

Steve Terry


Colin Trunt

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Apr 27, 2009, 2:12:59 PM4/27/09
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"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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Turkeys can't fly, they are not birds.


>
> Steve Terry
>
>


Colin Trunt

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Apr 27, 2009, 2:20:25 PM4/27/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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> Serious question.
>
> I imagine smokey bacon would be safer but I have no
> scientific proof.

He ha bingo!!

Pork ban,I always knew I was a genius.
I am so smart I can beat this virus.


http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/04/27/daily1.html


>
>
Russia bans Arizona pork, California, Mexican meats in response to swine flu


Steve Terry

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Apr 27, 2009, 2:34:55 PM4/27/09
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"Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
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No of course not, they are Fish

But you do have a point, bird flu is mostly prevalent in water birds
like ducks and geese

Steve Terry


Steve Firth

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Apr 27, 2009, 2:39:00 PM4/27/09
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Colin Trunt <co...@trunt.com> wrote:

"Swine flu" has nothing to do with pigs this time around.

Presumably when "Red Flu" came to Britain in the 1970s people should
have avoided Manchester United[1] and copies of Mao's book?

[1] Always a good idea.

Martin

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Apr 28, 2009, 1:10:03 AM4/28/09
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Turkeys can fly and it looks spectacular on a wide-screen telly watching
them.

Wide-screen tellies are fantastic, great invention.
>
>
>> Steve Terry
>>
>>
>
>

Marcus Houlden

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Apr 28, 2009, 3:28:10 AM4/28/09
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:10:03 +0100, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote the following to uk.misc:

> Colin Trunt wrote:
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:gt4pp4$kap$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>> "Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_FlJl.76812$W21....@newsfe07.ams2...
>>>> "Gareth" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:afKdneqdReVRjWnU...@brightview.com...
>>> <snip>
>>>> So it is contaminated and you can catch it from bacon.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers I am back on the Turkey
>>>>
>>> You want to chance bird flu?
>>
>>
>> Turkeys can't fly, they are not birds.
>
> Turkeys can fly and it looks spectacular on a wide-screen telly watching
> them.

Presumably while drinking a half_pint of beer.

mh.
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Svenne

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Apr 28, 2009, 3:33:57 AM4/28/09
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On 28 Apr 2009 07:28:10 GMT, Marcus Houlden <sp...@nukesoft.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:10:03 +0100, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk>
>wrote the following to uk.misc:
>
>> Colin Trunt wrote:
>>> "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
>>> news:gt4pp4$kap$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>>> "Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_FlJl.76812$W21....@newsfe07.ams2...
>>>>> "Gareth" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:afKdneqdReVRjWnU...@brightview.com...
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> So it is contaminated and you can catch it from bacon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers I am back on the Turkey
>>>>>
>>>> You want to chance bird flu?
>>>
>>>
>>> Turkeys can't fly, they are not birds.
>>
>> Turkeys can fly and it looks spectacular on a wide-screen telly watching
>> them.

>Presumably while drinking a half_pint of beer.

Turkeys can't fly while drinking half pints of beer.

Svenne

Billy Gumbo

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Apr 28, 2009, 7:32:08 PM4/28/09
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"Brian Gaff" < wrote in message

> Surely its a virus and would be destroyed by cooking anyway. The problem
> is it is now in the human population and thus it spreads from person to
> person just as any flu does.
> Most strains of flu seem to have come from domesticated animals and quite
> a lot from pigs. The problem with this strain is the way it affects the
> lungs.
> Brian
>

Would eating wild boar be safe, or should you kill it first?


Richard Bird

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Apr 29, 2009, 4:30:49 AM4/29/09
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"Billy Gumbo" <justwh...@vidiobot.net> wrote in message
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it would probably be safer to kill it first or it may eat you


Amethyst Deceiver

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Apr 29, 2009, 7:39:22 AM4/29/09
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In article <YlMJl.21055$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
justwh...@vidiobot.net says...

How were you planning to eat it without killing it?

Steve Firth

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Apr 29, 2009, 7:59:05 AM4/29/09
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Amethyst Deceiver <sp...@lindsayendell.co.uk> wrote:

> > Would eating wild boar be safe, or should you kill it first?
>
> How were you planning to eat it without killing it?

One bite at a time.

Sam Nelson

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Apr 29, 2009, 8:20:09 AM4/29/09
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In article <MPG.24624cc3c...@news.individual.de>,
sp...@lindsayendell.co.uk says...

>
> In article <YlMJl.21055$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
> justwh...@vidiobot.net says...
> >
> > "Brian Gaff" < wrote in message
> > > Surely its a virus and would be destroyed by cooking anyway. The problem
> > > is it is now in the human population and thus it spreads from person to
> > > person just as any flu does.
> > > Most strains of flu seem to have come from domesticated animals and quite
> > > a lot from pigs. The problem with this strain is the way it affects the
> > > lungs.
> >
> > Would eating wild boar be safe, or should you kill it first?
>
> How were you planning to eat it without killing it?

If you eat it before it's dead, it'll definitely be wild.
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Steve Terry

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Apr 29, 2009, 10:28:44 AM4/29/09
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"Billy Gumbo" <justwh...@vidiobot.net> wrote in message
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Wild? They get bloody livid if you don't

Steve Terry


bof

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May 8, 2009, 1:12:27 PM5/8/09
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In message <49f68fab$0$2533$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, Martin
<usen...@etiqa.co.uk> writes
>Colin Trunt wrote:

>> Turkeys can't fly
>
>Turkeys can fly

Maybe some can, and some can't:

"the "Turkey Drop," where live wild turkeys are dropped out of a
low-flying airplane [...] The problem is that wild turkeys can't fly
very well. Some of the birds would splat on the pavement."

from
<http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/16921>

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Smolley

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May 8, 2009, 1:43:30 PM5/8/09
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Yes


pare...@googlemail.com

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May 8, 2009, 5:48:56 PM5/8/09
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If anybody is worried that eating bacon is unsafe, then the easy
option is simply not to eat it. The scientific view appears to be that
properly cooked bacon is safe to eat. Perhaps there are Islamic or
Jewish organisations out there that are trying to whip this up as
evidence that pork is an "unclean" meat? Just stick to the facts and
eat bacon. I am sure bacon will not give anybody swine flu.

Richard Bird

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You will soon know if you have caught it, you will come out in rashers
BOOM! BOOM!


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