My reason for asking is that there are nutters out there who claim to be
ex-armed forces, and the way to trip them up is to ask questions that only
an ex-serviceman would know. For this reason I ask that you don't reveal on
this thread what an 1157 or a 252 was/is. But I need to know if the
nomenclature has changed since I left the army some 26 years ago.
About a year ago I had a brush with a nutter who claimed to be ex-RAF
suffering from Gulf War Syndrome. His mistake was claiming his rank in the
RAF was Staff Sergeant! He was easy to knock down. Others are more
difficult, and it is for this reason I need to know that a 252 and 1157
retain the same significance from when I was in the mob.
BD
Certainly hadn't changed by 1986 when I came out. I don't believe QR has
changed to that extent (with ref to one of the above).
>
>
Nope , 252 still the same by the time I'd left in 97 ,, 2" X 5" and white
Only had 2 brushes with it and apparently for my own good
1157 bit of a mystery though
1157 is still going, however it will disappear shortly when UNICOM Q is
universally adopted.
Having just got my LS&GC, I don't know about 252! :-)
Nige K
Arte et Marte
Ah, but what about the ubiquitous AFG1033???
Anybody remember AFO's (Egyptian style)? :-))) Navy 58-92!
Eddie
To reply to message make sparks fly!
Everyone needs their G10 :-))
>
>
well I'm ex forces and i've been out a while now and be buggered if I
can remember what they are and if I care :)
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NT> I can remember having an AB 64, but that as in the 1940s
> Anybody remember AFO's (Egyptian style)? :-))) Navy 58-92!
> Eddie
I recall some of them. Many were also "rit bi salers".
One in particular was started on Aisne when we were in the Far Flung
in late '66.
A few of us had inbibed a few in the Mess and started waffling out a
story when Charlie Drake, the REA decided we should type it up in the
radio shack. Off we went and started typing, AFO style:
"Stob, Stop' she crid, "Yure hurling me" as he riped of hur niggers
and flug them in the corder of the rom.
There was more - not a lot however, as we suddenly found that we were
broadcasting to the Fleet. Fortunately, no call sign was in use.
Many have claimed fame for that one, but some of us know the truth...
Rod
I can remember a B40 and an A65 even a T140E
--
B40? That was a well known wireless receiver when I joined the RN! I can
remember one coming out of it's mountings in roughers and making it's own
way across the MWO!
Ed
RN comms 58-92
LOL I've been out.. em ..er. surfice to say a long time:) and still
have a pair of wellies on a AFG1033, Don't know where the wellies are
but still got the 1033 somewhere.
There was a Large Bomb somewhere (Manchester?) and the number plate on
the vehicle had the numbers 252 it was because of the mil 252 that I
remember it.
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Sure that wasn't a B47?
>
> Ed
> RN comms 58-92
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Just testing :-)) You've passed.
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IIRC we had a B40 in the Whirlwind SRE compartment! That was the time I was
also heavily involved with UA2 and FH4! ;-)))
Eddie
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That's my curiosity satisfied anyway. I was thinking of the old B47 we
used as a troop net radio. Was the B40 one of the Larkspur sets?
We also had a C42 of the same genre and I gather the infantry had a 'A'
series of manpacks.
Glyn
They go back longer than that, mate. The big laugh used to be the
spelling mistakes - usually caused by the fact that they were hand set
in cold type, and if a letter was missing they used another similar
looking one. My favourite quote was " Stob, Stob, youre hurling me,
she creamed".
>
>Eddie
>
>
>
>To reply to message make sparks fly!
>
>
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Regards
Malcolm
www.tosd.demon.co.uk - HMS SOLEBAY and Battle class website.
I love to cook with wine: sometimes I even put it in the food.
> That's my curiosity satisfied anyway. I was thinking of the old B47 we
> used as a troop net radio. Was the B40 one of the Larkspur sets?
>
> We also had a C42 of the same genre and I gather the infantry had a 'A'
> series of manpacks.
When I think of the joys of operating the C42 off chore horses and
BB46s, I thank Hermes for alkaline batteries, semi-conductors and
superheterodyne tuners.
Was the infantry's "A" manpack a flatish affair about 10 by 20 inches
operating from 52-74.9 MHz and tuned using a zero beat?
--
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SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger."
out, and change "home" to "rogers".)
Don't forget the 700 and the 1250!
Mike
--
M.J.Powell
Do you know I haven't a clue. The frequency range is correct for a VHF set
of course which would allow it to contact the B47's & C42's used elsewhere
in the battlegroup. There was an HF set as well but for the life of me
I can't remember what it was called, likewise we had one or two rigged for
BID (are we allowed to talk about BID yet???) :-))
As an afterthought to my first reply to you - by 'zero' beat are you
referring to the 'tune rf' or 'tune antennae'?
"... as he flug her on the soda."
No I haven't got a copy!!
Regards
Mike
The zreo beat was a whistle that was used, IIRC, to match the antenna
to the set frequency. When the whistle hit its lowest pitch, that was
as close as you were going to get.
I can remember a B40 as well, but to me it was a BSA 350CC motorbike.
I also remember that my provisional driving licence ( red booklet type) had
a rubber stamp in it saying that as a learner I was allowed to ride bikes
over 250cc " for purposes of service to the crown"
Steve ( RAOC/REME 1968 - 1980)
--
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http://web.ukonline.co.uk/alec.powell/
Alec,
Yep, still got mine in the little envelope. As I've never made out another
one it's still current.
Regards
Shawn
Got it. That's what we called 'tune antennae'. We ceased doing it in the
late 70's when the new Clansman sets came in there was a unit fitted to the
harness which did the job in a couple of seconds. Negating the need to send
a signal for longer than the 10 seconds the Soviets needed to get a DF on
us.
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> "Eddie" <Edward.Cl...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > > I can remember a B40
>
> I can remember a B40 as well, but to me it was a BSA 350CC motorbike.
I also became acquainted with a few bikes during my time in the mob!
;-)))))))))))))))))))))
Eddie
RN Comms 58-92
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Remember these:
16H
G3
M20
G3L
TRW
B40
MT500
HD350 (Current)
My god, how long have you been in ?
Steve :o)
Larkspur A41 / yes
Manpack VHF issued no lower than Platoon HQ Level.
Ancilliary Pack = 1 x handset 1 x Headset 4' whip AE
bayonet mounted with integral flexible neck (always
got broke) 1 x 10'AE, 30 ohm couple, groundspike,
10' coax, 1 x AE pouch + 2 x Ancilliary pouch each
with 2 containers + spare battery pouch + harness
+ metal manpack frame.
>
>Do you know I haven't a clue. The frequency range is correct for a VHF set
>of course which would allow it to contact the B47's & C42's used elsewhere
>in the battlegroup. There was an HF set as well but for the life of me
>I can't remember what it was called,
A13 HF + HP unit and portable hand operated generator.
2-28mhz I think. Excellent piece of kit.
Issued to Coy level only except when in theatre where
HF required specificaly. Normaly mounted on dexian
frame in FFR with HP unit. Veh rec by AE mounted
on the mid left station, hard rubber base 2 x
single section rods in angle mount. Otherwise
manpacked. (Required two bods - 1 for the radio
with hP unit and ancills and the other to carry
the generator. Btys were small but didn't last too long
and had to be recharged.
Ah, 106! Was that the one which was one stage down from MOD Form 20? which
goes something like... (after the first thousand or so questions that deal
with your parentage):
Q1349 Have you ever been a member of the Communist Part?
Q1350 Have you ever known anyone who was a member of the Communist Party?
Q1351 Has any of your relatives been a member of the Communist Party?
Q1352 Has any of your relatives ever known a member of the Communist Party?
Q1353 Have you ever read a book on Marxism?
Q1354 Have you ever known anyone who was a Marxist?
Q1355 If the answer to Q1353/Q1354 is YES, do you know where Karl Marx is
buried?
Actually Q1355 is there for a laugh, but for anyone who's interested, Karl
Marx is buried in Highgate Cemetery. Via e-mails, I got the information I
wanted, and my suspicions were confirmed - the guy *is* a nutter, but a
well-informed one. As to MOD Form 20, I think that refers to the number of
pages you have to fill out!
BD
Bill,
As I remember MOD F106 is the very simple one page will you can fill out
before going into harms way. Very basically: I [insert name here] leave all
my possessions to [insert NOK or whatever name here] except [insert specific
here] which I leave to [insert name of lucky beneficiary here] etc etc.
Witnessed by the nearest passing NCO etc etc
I don't know the specific designation of the security vetting form filled
out before enlistment. I do seem to recall being slightly bemused to be
asked aged 18 in 1992 if I had ever been a member of the National Socialist
German Workers Party !!! 20 pages would be about right for the latter
Positive Vetting forms you have to fill out to get clearance for the higher
security classifications.
Regards
Shawn
> in the battlegroup. There was an HF set as well but for the life of
me
> I can't remember what it was called, likewise we had one or two rigged for
> BID (are we allowed to talk about BID yet???) :-))
IIRC They were C13 and C42 respectively
Regards
Jack Mathews
>
These sound like REME requisition forms. None of them are familiar to me at
all. Then again - stores are for storing, not for issuing. In the words
of our tank park s/sgt, "If I issued this kit to you son I wouldn't be able
to store it any more, then I'd be out of a job."
Glyn
C13, yes. The BID rigged C42 had a suffix as well I'm nearly certain.
> >
>
>
Always remember my first posting where I had to be "billeted" in a pub
Rate 1's for a month and lodging after that
hazy happy days !!!!
The M20,16H and G3 were all in service in 1954,If I remember right
the M20 was the first one that I got my leg over!!!!
Bluebell.
Was that Larkspur?
When I was forced to sit my B3 Sigs (long funny tale to that,
as a stutterer!!!!) the B47/8 was a VHF set used in the Scout
Army helicopter. The A series was HF, and the C42 was the vehicle
mounted "standard use" set.
When Clansman was introduced, as the only (un)qualified operator in
my unit, I had a good skive going on!!! (not to mention always being in
the CP on scheme. (The CO didn't want to appear a fool over the net....
plenty of nutty and chą available <vbegi>)
John Clark
remembering those loooonnnngggg boring stags on listening watch!
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> >Ah, but what about the ubiquitous AFG1033???
>
> Don't forget the 700
>
> Mike
Ah! Tweenie Weenie Airways????
703, 704, 705, 707 (the snaggers homepage!), 710
being the most used!
and when they introduced fault reporting, fault code 10,
(fails to function, cause unknown), how many times have
you had a P1. snag a cab, and to clear it, you've signed
off the snag with "System inspected and tested, no fault found."
btw, even had my greenie BF/TR sig on the 705!
John (Jock) Clark
aka The Stuttering Tech
Fly Navy, Sail Army, Eat Crab!
But, then having few remaining brain cells, (operational causalities, we
took that unoccupied alehouse, eventually!!!), I may be wrong.
--
John (Jock) Clark
ex REME (1975-1987)
"By Skill and By Might"
"You Bend 'em, We mend 'em"
Believe me I do. I was the last Larkspur trained B3 in my squadron and
had to take my B1 on Clansman. Bit of a shock. Easy to operate though.
I've not seen any handsets with whip antennae, ours were on the sets . :-)
The AFH1157 was some blue document which the Clerks managed to lose every
time they got posted.
The F Med 4 was also a very important document. Infact it's loss was meant
to result in a Regimental Enquiry. I remember, or don't remember if that be
the case, my RSM's F Med 4 ending up at the bottom of the casche in the
Falklands prior to his medical for commission. He passed the medical, I got
...................home!
Happy days.
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>> >>well I'm ex forces and i've been out a while now and be buggered if I
>> >>can remember what they are and if I care :)
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>> >NT> I can remember having an AB 64, but that as in the 1940s
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>> I can remember a B40
>
>
>B40? That was a well known wireless receiver when I joined the RN! I can
>remember one coming out of it's mountings in roughers and making it's own
>way across the MWO!
B40?? do you not mean B47 VHF?
>
>Ed
>RN comms 58-92
>
remove X to mail
I don't think that would be wise.
BD
But 'Bluebell' will have some meaning for a lot of (ex)matelots; a very
polished performer!
G
And then they marched me back to the guardroom to carry on my shift! Well
you can imagine how enthuisatically I carried on that day! LOL happy days!!
LOL
Taff
Ex RE
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A three badge AB I knew in the late 50s swore there was nothing better than
it for a tot when it was mixed with a little meths :-((((
Eddie
>
The G3 had girder forks
G3L had tele forks.
after the B40 came(mid70's) the Can-Am.Bombadier.250.
Two/stroke.(say no more)
MT500. (1983/87) Made by Armstrong, in Bolton.
HD350. (1992/96).The current machine is Harley - Davidson
350cc.(now with electric start)
Trial are now under way for a Diesel powered machine.
Blubell.
I'm sure the PTR series are Clansman - but I'm writing this when I am very,
very drunk!!!!
Have just come across my old S43A (Part 1) and three S1240s (D270)
Rod
DON'T talk to me about the Beaver!!!!!
Almost lost my head on the prop!!
Upgraded from Medicine-Man to temp staff at BATUS ('83), first post start-up
walk round (first fixed wing experience since basic), forgot it had the
bloody
rotors at the front, not overhead! Was only reminded when the draught
almost blew my bloody Ampivox ear-deafeners OFF!!!!
> As I remember the AN/ARC 44 was the Tactical VHF-FM set on Sioux and
> Alouette.
Had my Ally III sig in Cyp!
> Others:
> Service ATC: PTR 170 (UHF-AM) (Wonderful set!)
> Civilian ATC: STR37/38 (VHF-AM) (121.6 - check the weather:-)
Was that the one "The Bish" and "Coop" (655 Sqn, Army Arse Corpse <VBEGI>
could pick up the racing results on?
> (STR 38 being an STR 37 with an additional rf o/p amp - 1Kw?)
As a Blackie (smile when you say that!), I have recollections of the lowest
forms of life, Greenies, <spit! spit!> talking about those sets.
> Or.....
> Very rarely fitted:
> Tactical HF-AM, (on Scout and Beaver) :SA 14 (HF-AM)
> Don't ask me about Lynx and Gazelle, (after my time:-), although I have
> a vague memory of PTR 377 and PTR 446?
I think the PTR's were fitted into Gazelle's and later
> Memories.........
AYE! To the comrades and friends we knew, of yesteryear!
Jock Clark
The Stuttering Tech
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