(Shef)Field of Old
JR
joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc (John Fred Connors) wrote:
>Given that he [Myles Nesbitt] and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
>Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
>were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
>
Myles is Myles. Decry him all you like but I venture he's near to
getting where he wanted in life - cld you say the same?
My bezzy mate Ben Turner was in the *same year* as Myles in his time
at Sheffield Poly (when it was still a Poly). Don't know why you've
overlooked him. I was a regular visitor to South Yorkshire in
those days (88, 89) - another deaf Poly student was a chap called Ivor
whom the other deafos treated like the village idiot (and seemed to
have good reason for doing so ISTR)
Weren't you the guy with the flat cap and hermit-like tendencies?
JR
=======================
Jonathan Reid
Jonath...@bbc.co.uk
=======================
Paul J. Pycroft
In article <LH2ETBAz...@miss-lissa.demon.co.uk>, Melissa Mostyn
<li...@miss-lissa.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <33e5a2ec...@news.demon.co.uk>, John Fred Connors
><joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc> writes
>>The one guy who impressed me was Paul Pycroft. Wonder what
>>happened to him.
>Paul Pycroft? Excuse me for saying, Paul, if you're reading this, but
>when I met him at Bristol nearly five years ago, he didn't impress me.
>He impresses me even less now, judging by the puerile e-mails he posted
>on the newsgroup in response to mine...From my experience, this is not a
>man you want to know, really.
>
That your opinion...
Pyke
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paul J. Pycroft, M.Sc., C.Eng..
Paul J. Pycroft
In article <33e21949...@news.demon.co.uk>, John Fred Connors
<joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc> writes
>
>Myles Nutsbitt the wannabe Deaf MP? The guy who humiliated me by
>cracking jokes to me about eating cat curry whilst in an Indian
>Restraunt?
>
>Well, there's a name that takes me back.
>
>Given that he and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
>Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
>were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
>
Yeah, both are in the same course - B.A. Business Administration, Ally
was a year above Myles. Myles are the worst one (as both were in the
same Poly. as me!) cos' he was playing with words against most the
Sheffield deafies - also he was telling me all the bollocks about being
a Solicitor and a "wannabe" MP!!..
I (when I was with Criag Crowley) last saw Myles in Preston as he was a
Community Officer for the disable people and that was last year but I
heard he now moved to Leeds.. That all I last heard....
Paul J. Pycroft
In article <33e79c43...@news.demon.co.uk>, John Fred Connors
<joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc> writes
>
>>Paul Pycroft? Excuse me for saying, Paul, if you're reading this, but
>>when I met him at Bristol nearly five years ago, he didn't impress me.
>>He impresses me even less now, judging by the puerile e-mails he posted
>>on the newsgroup in response to mine...From my experience, this is not a
>>man you want to know, really.
>>
>of tricks. Trouble was he never talked about anything else. Since we
>were doing the same subject, it meant that we could relate: no - one
>else really could, though.
>
>Personally, I'd be happy to meet Ally again, Myles or (maybe) Paul,
>I'd be more cautious about.
>
Maybe you can be cautious about me....
Unknown
Hm. I just had an interesting...<ahem>..debate with a friend about the
wonderful world of law. My friend insisted that, in the UK, no deaf
person is allowed to be a solicitor, even though one can study the
law, but one will never be a fully qualified solicitor. I disagree as
I vaguely remember that there was a deaf bloke who studied and became
a trainee solicitor. My friend scoffed and said that I must have be
mistaken as it is legally impossible. I am stumped at this point as I
can't remember this bloke's name, nor any one else. Can anyone
provide some back up this? Also, can one become a fully qualified
solicitor? The impression I got off this opinionated friend is even
if a deaf person can't be legally allowed to be a barrister. Is this
true? I find it hard to believe that a deaf person can only qualified
to be a legal counsellor (or advisor) specialising in housing,
contractual and family law. However, I do know one deaf American who
is a qualified lawyer - but that doesn't really count as he went deaf
after passing the bar. Does anyone know any deaf solicitor/lawyer?
Catty who is stubbornly enough to pursue this subject to prove her
friend wrong.
Melissa Mostyn
In article <33e094ff...@news.demon.co.uk>, Alex Buell <alex.buell@
tahallah.demon.co.uk> writes
>Sure. His name is Myles Nesbitt. I vaguely recall him telling me he was studying
>law.many moons ago when I met him at Rachel Caw's place with Sara Livermore -
>that would be 5-6 years ago.
There's another, fully qualified, solicitor which the others are
thinking of: he's been on See Hear several times in connection to the
implications of the DDA for deaf people and other law issues relevant to
us. Myles, by the way, is now working with a law firm, tackling
different aspects of law according to the cases reaching the firm. His
favourite is litigation.
So there you are, Catty. Ample proof to stuff your ignorant friend with.
I really think s/he is displaying nothing more than a blatant lack of
recognition that deaf people can do *anything*.
--
Melissa
"There is only one thing worse than bring talked about, and that is not being
talked about." (Oscar Wilde)
Richard Benn
In article <870274311.4974.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, ?@?.?
writes
I work have worked in a Solicitor's office for some 10 years and I've
never heard of any bars against deaf people becoming solicitors or
barristers. In fact I'm sure I read about a deaf solicitor somewhere but
I can't remember the name now - sorry :-(
--
Richard Benn
M.A. Fox
Catty wrote:
>
> Hm. I just had an interesting...<ahem>..debate with a friend about the
> wonderful world of law. My friend insisted that, in the UK, no deaf
> person is allowed to be a solicitor, even though one can study the
> law, but one will never be a fully qualified solicitor. I disagree as
> I vaguely remember that there was a deaf bloke who studied and became
> a trainee solicitor. My friend scoffed and said that I must have be
> mistaken as it is legally impossible. I am stumped at this point as I
> can't remember this bloke's name, nor any one else.
> friend wrong.
I still can't remember the name - seems no-one in this newsgroup can
help. Maybe try See Hear?
Mark
JR
Richard Benn <Ric...@fullerbenn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I work have worked in a Solicitor's office for some 10 years and I've
>never heard of any bars against deaf people becoming solicitors or
>barristers.
Just to jump in late at this point, a deaf female friend of mine is
most certainly a qualified solicitor in Portsmouth (and well up on the
Disability Act 4WIW). The "deaf solicitor" *male* everyone seems to
be referring to - I'm pretty sure I know who it is (ex MHGS, as is my
friend) but last I heard he was still training.
OTOH, I spoke to an archetypal London barrister at a wedding (not
mine, gossip fans) and he was of the opinion that while there would -
as Richard points out - be no barrier to a deaf person attaining that
position, it would be "very hard" to assume that role in court, in
terms of opening a defence, closing statement legal whatsits, because
(somewhat cynically) it's all about making the jury like you and
*believe* you.
But then as a deaf barrister, you could play for the sympathy vote.
Either that or have a sexy bald bonce like that Murder One chappie :-)
JR
M.A. Fox
Alex Buell wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:51:49 GMT, (Catty) wrote:
>
> >Catty who is stubbornly enough to pursue this subject to prove her
> >friend wrong.
>
> law.many moons ago when I met him at Rachel Caw's place with Sara Livermore -
> that would be 5-6 years ago.
I don't think Myles is a *solicitor* (yet) - he has a law degree and was
working on patent law as an assistant a couple of years ago. He is
perfectly capable as he plays with words to such an extent that the rest
of us don't know what he is on about!
I *know* there is a deaf solicitor/lawyer as I ve met him! Like Catty I
can't remember his name!! <aaarrgh> He was on See Hear - I think he is
partially hearing or deafened as his speech was apparently very good.
Mark
John Fred Connors
Myles Nutsbitt the wannabe Deaf MP? The guy who humiliated me by
cracking jokes to me about eating cat curry whilst in an Indian
Restraunt?
Well, there's a name that takes me back.
Given that he and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
Fortunately, I've met some sensible ones since...
John Fred Connors | joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc
sp...@127.0.0.1 | (transpose s for z, c for k,
spam@localhost | and k for c).
Stuart Baldwin
On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:18:23 GMT, alex....@tahallah.demon.co.uk (Alex
Buell) wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:13:50 GMT, joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc (John Fred
>Connors) wrote:
>
>>Myles Nutsbitt the wannabe Deaf MP? The guy who humiliated me by
>>cracking jokes to me about eating cat curry whilst in an Indian
>>Restraunt?
>
>Cripes, "wannabe deaf MP"? Tory, I presume? :> Gads, the man has no bounds to
>his ambitions..
>
I wouldn't have said that wanting to be a Tory MP was a very high
ambition, although I suppose there is a certain rarity value.
(Uxbridge notwithstanding, but hardly a typical case, one hopes.)
--
Stuart Baldwin
uk.people.deaf FAQ etc.: http://www.boxatrix.demon.co.uk/upd/
Melissa Mostyn
In article <33e7441d....@news.demon.co.uk>, Alex Buell <alex.buell
@tahallah.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Myles Nutsbitt the wannabe Deaf MP? The guy who humiliated me by
>>cracking jokes to me about eating cat curry whilst in an Indian
>>Restraunt?
>
>Cripes, "wannabe deaf MP"? Tory, I presume? :> Gads, the man has no bounds to
>his ambitions..
>
>
Actually, at school Myles was always changing his political mind. He
went from Raving Loony to Tory to Labour to Alliance (SDP and Liberal) -
in that order, I think. Every time I think of the time when he ended his
1987 speech as an Alliance "candidate" - brandishing a Budget-style
briefcase with their slogan of the time, highlighted in the
characteristic yellow, and declaring "And, yes, it is - Time - for - A -
Change!" - I just crumple into a heap of giggles. FYI, BTW, the other
candidates were: Jonathan Reid (Tory) and, despite his reservations,
Jason Wickens (Labour). I think there was also an Independent or Green
candidate, but his speech was so feeble I forget who he was. Oh yes,
William Clapham. Nice bloke, but couldn't cut it on the assembly stage.
--
Miss Lissa
TilakOHC
There are a couple more ex-MHGS solicitors -- Richard Dunford who started
in the early 70s and Martin Tomiak who read jurisprudence at Worcester
College, Oxford in the late 70s.
Tilak
M.A. Fox
John Fred Connors wrote:
>
> Myles Nutsbitt the wannabe Deaf MP? The guy who humiliated me by
> cracking jokes to me about eating cat curry whilst in an Indian
> Restraunt?
>
>
> Given that he and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
> Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
> were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
>
> Fortunately, I've met some sensible ones since...
Certainly glad to hear that. Myles and Ally are what you say!
Cheers
Mark
M.A. Fox
Richard Dunford - that's it.
Mark
Tony Barlow
In article <33E40F...@durham.ac.uk>, "M.A. Fox"
<m.a...@durham.ac.uk> writes
>> Given that he and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
>> Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
>> were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
>>
>> Fortunately, I've met some sensible ones since...
>
>Certainly glad to hear that. Myles and Ally are what you say!
Absolute piffle! Well, not in Myles' case anyhow. But, permit me to leap
to Ally's defence, he is the guy who reads Loaded, an avid Nuneaton
Borough FC supporter and drinks lager. Methink he has come a long way
since his Sheffy days. Unfortunately, I have to say that you are spot on
about Myles. Besides, his personality traits would make him a perfect
Tory MP, do you think not!
------------------
Tony Barlow
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work;
I want to achieve immortality through not dying."
Woody Allen (1935-)
Melissa Mostyn
In article <33e5a2ec...@news.demon.co.uk>, John Fred Connors
<joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc> writes
>The one guy who impressed me was Paul Pycroft. Wonder what
>happened to him.
when I met him at Bristol nearly five years ago, he didn't impress me.
He impresses me even less now, judging by the puerile e-mails he posted
on the newsgroup in response to mine...From my experience, this is not a
man you want to know, really.
As for Ally Wright, I've known him for years, as has Tony Barlow, and he
is by far one of the nicest blokes you could come across, and very funny
with it too. Are you sure you haven't got your wires crossed?
Also, judging by the comments regarding Myles Nesbitt, this is going to
sound as though I'm the only one who's going to defend him. But I liked
him! Of course he had his infuriating moments - there were times when
the word "bastard" wasn't strong enough - but on the whole, he
cultivated some very stimulating debates.
Put this another way, he's just an intellectual eccentric who thinks of
quality as the be-all and end-all of life, but is perfectly happy to
indulge in "masculine" vices, like going to stripper clubs and high-tar
smoking. And he does make exuberant company. He came to my 21st birthday
party and teased my very Catholic, investment-trust manager father about
not going to a pub to have a "snort of my favourite cocaine".
--
Miss Lissa
John Fred Connors
Tory MP? It's quite possible; to give the guy his due, it wouldn't
surprised me if he managed it. I did get along with Aldistair much
better (and he is supposed to be on the Internet somewhere, I'm told),
but he was concerned with appearences - I do remember when he shaved
one sideburn shorter that the other and was barely seen in public
for a week....his girlfriend of the time wondered what had happened
to him. Also, to be fair, there was an ex- Boston Spa pupil who was
much the same and got along with those two like a house on fire. I
think she works for Sense, now.
Also, this is more than ten years ago.... I'm sure the hard cruel
world has had it's improving and sobering effects in that time :-)
The one guy who impressed me was Paul Pycroft. Wonder what
happened to him.
Simon Mctighe
My friend insisted that, in the UK, no deaf
> > person is allowed to be a solicitor, even though one can study the
> > law, but one will never be a fully qualified solicitor. I disagree as
This simply is not true. There is no legal reason why a deaf person
should not be a solicitor or a barrister, although obviously there may be
practical difficulties. Jane Wilmot (of the RNID) is an example of a born
deaf person who qualified as a solicitor. She is not unique.
Simon McTighe
Unknown
joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc (John Fred Connors) wrote:
>Also, to be fair, there was an ex- Boston Spa pupil who was
>much the same and got along with those two like a house on fire. I
>think she works for Sense, now.
Are you talking about Lucy Warnes? If so, there is some good news
from what I hear - Neil and Lucy are expecting a baby. Cool, no?
>Also, this is more than ten years ago.... I'm sure the hard cruel
>world has had it's improving and sobering effects in that time :-)
Catty
Unknown
Tony Barlow <toy...@toybar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <33E40F...@durham.ac.uk>, "M.A. Fox"
><m.a...@durham.ac.uk> writes
>>> Given that he and Aldistar Wright were the other deaf people at my
>>> Poly, I remember getting the impression that all ex-MHGS pupils
>>> were deluded, vain upper - middle class twits.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, I've met some sensible ones since...
>>
>>Certainly glad to hear that. Myles and Ally are what you say!
>Absolute piffle! Well, not in Myles' case anyhow. But, permit me to leap
>to Ally's defence, he is the guy who reads Loaded, an avid Nuneaton
>Borough FC supporter and drinks lager. Methink he has come a long way
>since his Sheffy days. Unfortunately, I have to say that you are spot on
>about Myles. Besides, his personality traits would make him a perfect
>Tory MP, do you think not!
Alstair Wright? Not the same guy who works/ed for Chelmsford District
Council, right? A blond upper middle class bloke who is crazy about
ski-ing? He supports Nuneaton? Is that near Leamington Spa? If it is
the same one, then say hello from me who once worked for Chelmsford
Central library which was below his office. As for Loaded, don't tell
me - he read FHM as well? Yesterday Richard Weaver, Stephen Bent and
Mark W were sniggering over some article in FHM - apparently there are
names for all types of...erm..'down there'. They were on the floor
crying with laughter over the link between Steve's surname and one of
the types.
Oh! Good news - Richard Weaver is now a registered qualified
interpreter. Bad news really, if one think about it - considering his
ego...
Catty
John Fred Connors
>Paul Pycroft? Excuse me for saying, Paul, if you're reading this, but
>when I met him at Bristol nearly five years ago, he didn't impress me.
>He impresses me even less now, judging by the puerile e-mails he posted
>on the newsgroup in response to mine...From my experience, this is not a
>man you want to know, really.
>
Hmm. I meant professionally, he was somewhat good with the old box
of tricks. Trouble was he never talked about anything else. Since we
were doing the same subject, it meant that we could relate: no - one
else really could, though.
Personally, I'd be happy to meet Ally again, Myles or (maybe) Paul,
I'd be more cautious about.
John Fred.
John Fred Connors
On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 07:32:22 GMT, (Catty) wrote:
>Are you talking about Lucy Warnes? If so, there is some good news
>from what I hear - Neil and Lucy are expecting a baby. Cool, no?
>
Neils pregnant, too, eh? :-)
Good news! Though she was Lucy Briggs when I knew her. This is all
a long time ago. (10 years +)
>>Also, this is more than ten years ago.... I'm sure the hard cruel
>>world has had it's improving and sobering effects in that time :-)
>
>Catty
John Fred
John Fred Connors | joco...@kix.kompulink.ko.uc
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