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D.M. Procida

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Jan 11, 2011, 6:15:18 AM1/11/11
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I've sold my iPad on eBay:

<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220722800866#ht_50
0wt_1113>

The buyer has paid using PayPal.

However, the buyer's name is not the same as the name that is on the
delivery address (at student residences).

Should this be a cause for concern?

Since advertising this thing I have been bombarded by scammers wanting
me to send it to West Africa for them/their agent/their foster-child,
and I don't trust PayPal's 'protection'.

Thanks for any advice,

Daniele

Richard Colton

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Jan 11, 2011, 6:28:49 AM1/11/11
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That wouldn't be the one you're also trying to sell on
uk.adverts.computer would it?

Long story short, if you're not happy to send it, refund and move on.
Expect a neg though.

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petrolcan

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Jan 11, 2011, 6:33:55 AM1/11/11
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In article <1juxg9g.1kf4v346u299zN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida says...

Is the address on the paypal payment showing as confirmed? If so it should
be safe to send. I use several ebay accounts and the name on the paypal
account (I only use on paypal account) does not match all the names on the
ebay accounts IYSWIM.

D.M. Procida

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Jan 11, 2011, 6:46:22 AM1/11/11
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petrolcan <petr...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <1juxg9g.1kf4v346u299zN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
> juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida says...
> >
> > I've sold my iPad on eBay:
> >
> > <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220722800866#ht_50
> > 0wt_1113>
> >
> > The buyer has paid using PayPal.
> >
> > However, the buyer's name is not the same as the name that is on the
> > delivery address (at student residences).
> >
> > Should this be a cause for concern?
> >
> > Since advertising this thing I have been bombarded by scammers wanting
> > me to send it to West Africa for them/their agent/their foster-child,
> > and I don't trust PayPal's 'protection'.

> Is the address on the paypal payment showing as confirmed? If so it should
> be safe to send.

The address showed up as "Unconfirmed" in the initial email message from
PayPal, but "Confirmed" when I look at the transaction details in
PayPal.

The transaction was an Instant Payment, if that has any implications for
chargebacks etc.

> I use several ebay accounts and the name on the paypal
> account (I only use on paypal account) does not match all the names on the
> ebay accounts IYSWIM.

The buyer has replied:

Basically my mail at my uni address is not very regular and I
have had several parcels not turn up. Basically Im getting the
iPad delivered to my friends in halls, where I used to live.
Their mail is regular and very secure.

which seems fair enough.

And the buyer has 40 positive feedback as a buyer.

So perhaps I was just being too suspicious.

Daniele

The Older Gentleman

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Jan 11, 2011, 6:50:44 AM1/11/11
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D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> However, the buyer's name is not the same as the name that is on the
> delivery address (at student residences).
>
> Should this be a cause for concern?

Yes.


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The Older Gentleman

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Jan 11, 2011, 7:33:01 AM1/11/11
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D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Basically my mail at my uni address is not very regular and I
> have had several parcels not turn up. Basically Im getting the
> iPad delivered to my friends in halls, where I used to live.
> Their mail is regular and very secure.
>
> which seems fair enough.
>
> And the buyer has 40 positive feedback as a buyer.
>
> So perhaps I was just being too suspicious.

Possibly, but I still wouldn't do it. I'd tell him that you're refunding
his PayPal. Multiple occupancy buildings, especially student ones, are a
nightmare, true, but you're sending a valuable item into what the buyer
admits is a rats' nest.

D.M. Procida

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Jan 11, 2011, 7:36:26 AM1/11/11
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Basically my mail at my uni address is not very regular and I
> > have had several parcels not turn up. Basically Im getting the
> > iPad delivered to my friends in halls, where I used to live.
> > Their mail is regular and very secure.
> >
> > which seems fair enough.
> >
> > And the buyer has 40 positive feedback as a buyer.
> >
> > So perhaps I was just being too suspicious.
>
> Possibly, but I still wouldn't do it. I'd tell him that you're refunding
> his PayPal. Multiple occupancy buildings, especially student ones, are a
> nightmare, true, but you're sending a valuable item into what the buyer
> admits is a rats' nest.

Other way round - he says that the mail at his friend's residences is
reliable.

I'd feel more confident if eBay and PayPal were less evasive about what
their protection is and when it applies. But as far as I can tell, I've
done all the right things and I should be covered if somehting does go
wrong.

Daniele

petrolcan

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Jan 11, 2011, 7:55:20 AM1/11/11
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In article <1juxk9h.1ozd7qe1sds5cwN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-

juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida says...
>

Deliver it to the confirmed address in paypal. That way you have complied
with what paypal wants.


Fran

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Jan 11, 2011, 9:03:52 AM1/11/11
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"D.M. Procida" <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote in
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If you send to the name and address registered with PayPal, then you're
covered up to £250. Send it Special Delivery.

An instant payment will be either a direct debit backed with a cc, or a cc.


D.M. Procida

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Jan 11, 2011, 9:33:28 AM1/11/11
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Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com> wrote:

> > The buyer has replied:
> >
> > Basically my mail at my uni address is not very regular and I
> > have had several parcels not turn up. Basically Im getting the
> > iPad delivered to my friends in halls, where I used to live.
> > Their mail is regular and very secure.
> >
> > which seems fair enough.
> >
> > And the buyer has 40 positive feedback as a buyer.
> >
> > So perhaps I was just being too suspicious.
>
> If you send to the name and address registered with PayPal, then you're
> covered up to £250. Send it Special Delivery.

Where did you get the £250 figure from?

I have spoken on the phone to the ebuyer. He sounds like a
straightforward enough person.

Daniele

Kevin F Stubbs

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Jan 11, 2011, 9:47:34 AM1/11/11
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On 11/01/2011 14:33, D.M. Procida wrote:
> Where did you get the £250 figure from?

I've no idea where he found that. The specific clause in the Paypal T&Cs
states:

PayPal seller protection does not apply to Claims, Chargebacks and/or
Reversals for the reason that the purchase was Significantly Not as
Described (SNAD) nor for items that you deliver or are picked up in person.

11.3 How much protection is provided by PayPal seller protection?

PayPal will pay you the full amount of an eligible payment the subject
of the Claim, Chargeback, or Reversal and waive the Chargeback Fee, if
applicable. There is no limit on the number of payments for which you
can receive re-imbursement under PayPal Seller Protection.

No limit is stated here...provided you meet their T&Cs. A few important
ones being that you post the item out within 7 days of receiving
payment, you obtain electronic online proof of delivery and that you
send it to the shipping address on the “Transaction Details” page. See
them all here:

https://cms.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/?&cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full&locale.x=en_GB#11.%20Seller%20Protection%20Programme

Good luck

Kevin

Fran

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Jan 11, 2011, 11:02:45 AM1/11/11
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"D.M. Procida" <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote in
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> Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com> wrote:
>
>> > The buyer has replied:
>> >
>> > Basically my mail at my uni address is not very regular and I
>> > have had several parcels not turn up. Basically Im getting the
>> > iPad delivered to my friends in halls, where I used to live.
>> > Their mail is regular and very secure.
>> >
>> > which seems fair enough.
>> >
>> > And the buyer has 40 positive feedback as a buyer.
>> >
>> > So perhaps I was just being too suspicious.
>>
>> If you send to the name and address registered with PayPal, then you're
>> covered up to £250. Send it Special Delivery.
>
> Where did you get the £250 figure from?

Ack. I may be thinking US for unconfirmeds, sorry. Many of my deals are on
.com and the agreement is slightly different. If it's the registered
address, you're good.

>
> I have spoken on the phone to the ebuyer. He sounds like a
> straightforward enough person.

Sensible thing to have done.


Mike Tomlinson

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Jan 14, 2011, 2:05:08 PM1/14/11
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In article <1juxg9g.1kf4v346u299zN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
juice.co.uk> writes

Bloody hell. Could have bought a new one for that. Ebay idiots.

> (at student residences).
>
>Should this be a cause for concern?

Yes. Triple-check the Paypal Ts&Cs to see if sending the thing to an
address other than the confirmed address will void their protection (I
suspect it will).

>and I don't trust PayPal's 'protection'

Very wise.

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D.M. Procida

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Jan 15, 2011, 9:31:03 AM1/15/11
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Mike Tomlinson <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <1juxg9g.1kf4v346u299zN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
> juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
> juice.co.uk> writes
>
> >I've sold my iPad on eBay:
> >
> ><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220722800866#ht_50
> >0wt_1113>
>
> Bloody hell. Could have bought a new one for that. Ebay idiots.

Really? Where from?

Daniele

The Older Gentleman

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Jan 15, 2011, 11:35:32 AM1/15/11
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D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

Well.... from the US, if he was there, anyway. Cheapest I've seen in the
UK has been something over £400. I certainly wouldn't pay £380 inc p&p
for a used one, but then there are lots of fools on eBay.


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Mike Tomlinson

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Jan 15, 2011, 11:45:05 AM1/15/11
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In article <1jv51w4.10eq7m9ih6juqN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-

juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-
juice.co.uk> writes

>Really? Where from?

Ebay, funnily enough - brand new and sealed (which yours wasn't). Found
three going for �375.

As the Christmas credit card bills land on doormats and the iPad II is
launched, expect to see many more tipping up and the price dropping.

Mike Tomlinson

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Jan 15, 2011, 12:15:23 PM1/15/11
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In article <yKif2XAR...@jasper.org.uk>, Mike Tomlinson
<mi...@jasper.org.uk> writes

>Ebay, funnily enough - brand new and sealed (which yours wasn't). Found
>three going for £375.

Like this one just ended: 190489242446

Simon T

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Jan 23, 2011, 3:52:22 PM1/23/11
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On Jan 11, 11:46 am, real-not-anti-spam-addr...@apple-juice.co.uk
(D.M. Procida) wrote:

Not suspicious enough IMO. Do post back if you get any problems!

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