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R D S

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:33:41 AM12/22/09
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If someone who knows could answer the following and save me poring through
the T&C's that would be great.

Listed with BIN or BO. Got an offer, accepted it but no payment was
forthcoming. Had email exchange with buyer who said he would pay, have had
to start a dispute which is 'waiting for buyer response'.

If I relist this before the dispute is finished will I still get the fees
refunded or do I need to wait.

Ta.


petrolcan

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Dec 22, 2009, 8:15:51 AM12/22/09
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In article <7pbsl2...@mid.individual.net>, R D S says...

You need to wait just to be 100% sure he doesn't pay. How long ago did
you start the dispute?

R D S

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:22:59 AM12/22/09
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"petrolcan" <petrol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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3 days I think. How long do ebay give him to procrastinate?


Mike

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:00:58 PM12/22/09
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In message <7pc323...@mid.individual.net>
at 14:22:59 on Tue, 22 Dec 2009, R D S <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote
In the old days it used to be wait 7 days before you could open a
dispute, wait another 7 days without a response and you could file for
FVF etc. I think the whole process can be done in 7 days now
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Gary Baldi

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:54:10 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 6:00 pm, Mike
<turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote:
> In message <7pc323F4q...@mid.individual.net>

> at 14:22:59 on Tue, 22 Dec 2009, R D S <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> >"petrolcan" <petrolcanS...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.259ad6da8...@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >> In article <7pbsl2Fvg...@mid.individual.net>, R D S says...

>
> >>> If someone who knows could answer the following and save me poring
> >>> through
> >>> the T&C's that would be great.
>
> >>> Listed with BIN or BO. Got an offer, accepted it but no payment was
> >>> forthcoming. Had email exchange with buyer who said he would pay, have
> >>> had
> >>> to start a dispute which is 'waiting for buyer response'.
>
> >>> If I relist this before the dispute is finished will I still get the fees
> >>> refunded or do I need to wait.
>
> >> You need to wait just to be 100% sure he doesn't pay. How long ago did
> >> you start the dispute?
>
> >3 days I think. How long do ebay give him to procrastinate?
>
> In the old days it used to be wait 7 days before you could open a
> dispute, wait another 7 days without a response and you could file for
> FVF etc.  I think the whole process can be done in 7 days now
> --
> Mike News- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Had the same; a buyer who claimed they didnt know that clicking "enter
your best offer" (or whatever the terminology is) obligated them to
buy.

Got my FVF back by cancelling the transaction but lost my listing fee.

Will be closing my eBay account just as soon as they let me.

petrolcan

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:18:45 PM12/22/09
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In article <691e1963-258a-4a39-8b8d-e79ebc7a98e2
@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Gary Baldi says...

Why didn't you just report him as a non paying bidder and get fvf and
listing fees back.

It is quite clear that when you enter a best offer that you are
obligated to buy should the seller accept it.

R D S

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:44:15 AM12/30/09
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"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
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Well he paid eventually and has now bought something else from me a week ago
and hasn't paid for that.
He left me good feedback for the first transaction so I am guessing he is
just a useless **** and am confident i'll get paid. Time of year doesn't
help I suppose.


Rob Morley

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:43:57 AM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:44:15 -0000
"R D S" <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well he paid eventually and has now bought something else from me a
> week ago and hasn't paid for that.
> He left me good feedback for the first transaction so I am guessing
> he is just a useless **** and am confident i'll get paid. Time of
> year doesn't help I suppose.
>
>

Maybe he wanted to combine P&P on multiple purchases, but didn't win
the second item.

Fran

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:55:24 AM12/30/09
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"R D S" <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There's an easy answer to this, if you're willing. Make it Immediate Payment
Required and set up automatic acceptance of a BO level.


Mike

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:29:48 AM12/30/09
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In message <hhfijt$98j$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
at 12:55:24 on Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com>
wrote
>iate Payment
>Required a
>
Does that mean if you don't wash for a couple of days you win the
auction
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Fran

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:39:28 AM12/30/09
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"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
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Daft sod.


petrolcan

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:59:02 AM12/30/09
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In article <hhfijt$98j$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says...

AFAIAW you cannot specify immediate payment for a best offer.

The Older Gentleman

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:38:23 AM12/30/09
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Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

<Nods>

That's happened to me before now. Both buying and selling.


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Gary Baldi

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:57:43 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 22, 8:18 pm, petrolcan <petrolcanS...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why didn't you just report him as a non paying bidder and get fvf and
> listing fees back.
>
> It is quite clear that when you enter a best offer that you are
> obligated to buy should the seller accept it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Because I was stupid enough to honour their request to cancel the
transaction.

It's called behaving decently.

Sadly, because eBay have removed my right to neg the buyer (they didnt
even respond to the dispute) I'm out of pocket, hence one less eBayer
just as soon as I can.

Mike

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:05:32 PM12/30/09
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In message <hhfon1$qon$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
at 14:39:28 on Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com>
wrote
>
>"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
>news:Punl3OEM...@turnpike.home...
>> In message <hhfijt$98j$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
>> at 12:55:24 on Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com> wrote
>>>iate Payment
>>>Required a
>> >
>> Does that mean if you don't wash for a couple of days you win the auction
>
>Daft sod.
>
>
LOL. Something went wrong with the quoting, meant to quote

"Make it Immediate Payment Required and set up automatic acceptance of
a BO level. ", but I guess you worked that bit out
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Fran

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:42:02 PM12/30/09
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"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
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Indeed I did. ;)


Fran

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:43:14 PM12/30/09
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"Gary Baldi" <tim.ri...@gmx.com> wrote in message
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===

And equally sadly, you behaved decently, but Ebay don't. So, as you
imply,they lose sellers.


petrolcan

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:26:45 AM12/31/09
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In article <5e7cf426-58aa-45b3-a199-4955ad414631
@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Gary Baldi says...

You use the words honour and decently yet you would have still negged
the buyer if you could have?

I think ebay may well be shot of you.

Kráftéé

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:08:12 AM12/31/09
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"petrolcan" <petrol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well what would you do if someone effectively closed one of your auctions
and then refused to pay leaving you out of pocket?

petrolcan

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:14:17 AM12/31/09
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In article <aLydnRPJd46M5aHW...@bt.com>, Kráftéé says...

Opened a NPB dispute.


Mike

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:41:31 AM12/31/09
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In message <hhgs0s$pmv$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
at 00:42:02 on Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com>
wrote
>
>"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
>news:2izr0zAch4OLFwD$@turnpike.home...
>> In message <hhfon1$qon$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
>> at 14:39:28 on Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com> wrote
>>>
>>>"Mike" <turnpike_user@turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote in message
>>>news:Punl3OEM...@turnpike.home...
>>>> In message <hhfijt$98j$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>> at 12:55:24 on Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Fran <autum...@vendredi.fr.com>
>>>> wrote
>>>>>iate Payment
>>>>>Required a
>>>> >
>>>> Does that mean if you don't wash for a couple of days you win the
>>>> auction
>>>
>>>Daft sod.
>>>
>>>
>> LOL. Something went wrong with the quoting, meant to quote
>> "Make it Immediate Payment Required and set up automatic acceptance of a
>> BO level. ", but I guess you worked that bit out
>
>Indeed I did. ;)
>
>
Hehe

Happy New Year everybody
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R D S

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:12:51 AM12/31/09
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"Rob Morley" <nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Well he hasn't paid for the item he bought 8 days ago and I have nothing
else currently listed so I think he is probably just a tool.
I don't mind too much but I like to get stuff in the post and draw a line
under it.

It turns out he is an x-factor reject. Sing 'em a song Della.


R D S

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:14:01 AM12/31/09
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"petrolcan" <petrol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm not sure either, because they can specify 'terms' when they make the
offer.


Fran

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:36:53 AM12/31/09
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"R D S" <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If you set an auto accept level, I believe you can then make it immediate
payment required.


petrolcan

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:38:12 AM12/31/09
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In article <hhi2cm$9gr$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says...

No, you cannot.

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