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Roland Perry

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May 20, 2013, 6:16:09 AM5/20/13
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Getting a bit fed up with (possibly inadvertent) misdirection by people
selling "collection only" items.

Today's one is eight miles away in a "satellite village", and not in the
town where I live at all.

Having said that, the previous one turned out to be 200yds away.

Also not helped by a tendency for furniture to be away from the seller's
address at anyway - last year one was at his late mother's house where
he was doing a clearance, and I've also had traders where the item was a
personal one at their home miles away from their business address.

The answer, I suppose, is to always ask for precise location details
before bidding, but that *really* slows thing down and many people just
don't reply (and some actively refuse to disclose their address other
than to winners).
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Roland Perry

Niel Humphreys

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May 20, 2013, 7:14:40 AM5/20/13
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"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
& about 6 miles away.

However I do not entertain collections and on a couple of occasions have had
people saying they went to Caernarfon but could not find my 'shop', one even
got a hotel in the town to email me. Quite happy not to have some goon just
turning up at my front door at home expecting to rifle through my shelves.

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Cheers
Niel H


Partac

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May 20, 2013, 7:42:36 AM5/20/13
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"Niel Humphreys" wrote in message news:knd0bb$sug$1...@dont-email.me...

"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:oJnjwk8p...@perry.co.uk...
> Getting a bit fed up with (possibly inadvertent) misdirection by people
> selling "collection only" items.
>
> Today's one is eight miles away in a "satellite village", and not in the
> town where I live at all.
>
> Having said that, the previous one turned out to be 200yds away.
>
> Also not helped by a tendency for furniture to be away from the seller's
> address at anyway - last year one was at his late mother's house where he
> was doing a clearance, and I've also had traders where the item was a
> personal one at their home miles away from their business address.
>
> The answer, I suppose, is to always ask for precise location details
> before bidding, but that *really* slows thing down and many people just
> don't reply (and some actively refuse to disclose their address other than
> to winners).


Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
& about 6 miles away.

Yes, but it's easy enough for the seller to put the collection location in
the main body of the description. My main bug bear is the location "London".
I live just a few miles west of West London not too far from Heathrow
Airport. Collection from "London" for me could mean anything from a ten
minute trip to approaching a full day's drive depending on traffic, as
anyone who has ever driven extensively in London knows. A truncated postcode
helps enormously. With the costs of petrol these days, the knowledge of the
location can mean the difference between bidding and not bidding.

Roland Perry

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May 20, 2013, 8:44:54 AM5/20/13
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In message <knd0bb$sug$1...@dont-email.me>, at 12:14:40 on Mon, 20 May
2013, Niel Humphreys <a...@a.com> remarked:
>Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
>database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
>is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
>& about 6 miles away.

eBay could measure the distance from your actual postcode (to my actual
postcode) rather than rounding both of them to the nearest post-town.

>However I do not entertain collections and on a couple of occasions have had
>people saying they went to Caernarfon but could not find my 'shop', one even
>got a hotel in the town to email me. Quite happy not to have some goon just
>turning up at my front door at home expecting to rifle through my shelves.

I'm talking about items advertised as "collection only".
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry

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May 20, 2013, 8:47:38 AM5/20/13
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In message <avugha...@mid.individual.net>, at 12:42:36 on Mon, 20
May 2013, Partac <any...@tiscali.co.uk> remarked:
>With the costs of petrol these days, the knowledge of the location can
>mean the difference between bidding and not bidding.

Not just that - I'm looking at items which I can collect on foot, rather
than getting out the car at all.

But even when I know I'll need to use the car (because it's big and
heavy) being 10 miles out can be an issue of time as well as petrol, if
it's 15 miles away and not 5 miles away.
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Roland Perry

Willy Eckerslyke

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May 21, 2013, 5:45:52 AM5/21/13
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Niel Humphreys wrote:

> Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
> database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
> is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
> & about 6 miles away.

Interesting, that explains why so many items in my searches "within 10
miles" are actually in the hills beyond Caernarfon. I always put it down
to being 'as the crow flies' across the Strait, while using a bridge
adds another 15 miles, but that didn't account for the more remote areas.

Apellation Controlee

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May 21, 2013, 10:02:03 AM5/21/13
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That's common here, and not just with Ebay but any "find your nearest
store" feature. Southport is about six miles away ATCF, but 30 miles
by road.

cupra

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May 21, 2013, 2:10:19 PM5/21/13
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Here in West Somerset searches show up Items in Cardiff as closer than
Bristol etc.., great if you've got a boat!

Theo Markettos

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May 22, 2013, 4:11:22 PM5/22/13
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Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <knd0bb$sug$1...@dont-email.me>, at 12:14:40 on Mon, 20 May
> 2013, Niel Humphreys <a...@a.com> remarked:
> >Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
> >database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
> >is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
> >& about 6 miles away.
>
> eBay could measure the distance from your actual postcode (to my actual
> postcode) rather than rounding both of them to the nearest post-town.

There might be a security risk of being able to triangulate the exact
location (and then break in one night). However it would be handy to have a
'nearer than' that goes in steps more fine grained than 10/25/50
miles: for me 50 miles pulls in half of London and, while I might consider
the south end of the M11, I'm not going to faff about going to Clapham.
'Nearer than' to a 5 mile interval wouldn't be too much of a security risk
I'd have thought?

Theo

Roland Perry

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May 23, 2013, 4:48:04 AM5/23/13
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In message <kno*AM...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, at 21:11:22 on Wed,
22 May 2013, Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
remarked:
>> >Not a lot you can do really as a seller as that is taken from the Ebay
>> >database. For instance frmo my postcode it states I am in Caernarfon which
>> >is the nearest 'large town' to the village of Llanberis where I actually am
>> >& about 6 miles away.
>>
>> eBay could measure the distance from your actual postcode (to my actual
>> postcode) rather than rounding both of them to the nearest post-town.
>
>There might be a security risk of being able to triangulate the exact
>location (and then break in one night). However it would be handy to have a
>'nearer than' that goes in steps more fine grained than 10/25/50
>miles: for me 50 miles pulls in half of London and, while I might consider
>the south end of the M11, I'm not going to faff about going to Clapham.
>'Nearer than' to a 5 mile interval wouldn't be too much of a security risk
>I'd have thought?

If you think about the geography of the USA, then it's pretty much
either cities that are more than 5 miles across, or small towns where
there's nothing else for 20 miles. And everyone has a car. So the
granularity probably works for them.

Putting the postcode of the item I'm currently struggling to collect
into Google Maps actually brings up "Sutton, Cambs" rather than the
"Ely, Cambs" in the listing.

Try this random shop in their High St: CB6 2RB

That avoids the triangulation issue, and even says which direction it's
8 miles, which might make a difference for people's travel planning.
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Roland Perry
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