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petrolcan

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Jul 27, 2012, 8:11:13 PM7/27/12
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but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
time for the one way trip to the vet.

Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.

Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.

http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg

Jim

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Jul 27, 2012, 8:38:51 PM7/27/12
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In article <MPG.2a7d3e72d...@news.eternal-september.org>,
petr...@gmail.com says...
How sad, pets are sorely missed.

If I remember correctly she was the Hitler Cat that got Spambuster and
Fran foaming at the mouth.

c...@nospam.netunix.com

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Jul 27, 2012, 9:22:27 PM7/27/12
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Commiserations, losing a purry friend is never easy.
I trust that a replacement kitty will soon be found.

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Timo Geusch

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Jul 27, 2012, 11:30:55 PM7/27/12
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petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com> writes:

> but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> time for the one way trip to the vet.
>
> Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.

Sorry to hear that.

> Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.

There's another one out that's ready to take over your household :).

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Niel Humphreys

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Jul 28, 2012, 4:04:59 AM7/28/12
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"petrolcan" <petr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's never easy to lose a pet, especially so when she was your only one, but
you did the right thing. So many people keep pets alive & suffering for
their own benefit.

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Cheers
Niel H


John Benn

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Jul 28, 2012, 4:51:51 AM7/28/12
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====================================

Very sorry to hear that - a lovely-looking cat.

How old was she?

LucretiaBorgia

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Jul 28, 2012, 5:57:37 AM7/28/12
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Aww sorry to hear that. She looked very pretty.
I'm having the lady from the Cats Protection League round to check my
house out (checks watch) any minute now. It's been a year since I lost
my cat, but it still brings a lump to my throat. Time, I thought, for
some replacements.
Hope you find a new furry friend soon <3

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Hog.

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Jul 28, 2012, 7:21:46 AM7/28/12
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I saw the header and though "what has the silly woman gone and done now"
Sorry Cat

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Paul Carmichael

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Jul 28, 2012, 8:01:12 AM7/28/12
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petrolcan escribió:
But why ISO200?

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petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:31 PM7/28/12
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In article <MPG.2a7d44fad...@news.btinternet.com>, Jim says...
>
> In article <MPG.2a7d3e72d...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> petr...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >
> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >
> > http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>
> How sad, pets are sorely missed.

I won't miss all the clearing up after her!

> If I remember correctly she was the Hitler Cat that got Spambuster and
> Fran foaming at the mouth.

That's the one.

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:32 PM7/28/12
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In article <juvesj$8sq$1...@news.albasani.net>, c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com
says...
>
> In uk.rec.motorcycles petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >
> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >
> > http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>
> Commiserations, losing a purry friend is never easy.
> I trust that a replacement kitty will soon be found.

Not yet but I doubt it'll be long.

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:32 PM7/28/12
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In article <m2ipd87...@odie-pro.internal.unix-consult.com>, Timo
Geusch says...
>
> petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
>
> Sorry to hear that.
>
> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
>
> There's another one out that's ready to take over your household :).

Hah! The neighbour's cat has been sniffing around already.

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:33 PM7/28/12
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In article <jv06fa$i92$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...
The last 2 cats and more recently the dog have all had to be put down
due to sudden illness or injury so it was nice to be able to make the
decision rather than have it put upon us IYSWIM.

ￜ65 was taking the piss for an injection though!

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:33 PM7/28/12
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In article <jv0977$v2u$1...@dont-email.me>, John Benn says...
17.5 years so she'd done alright.

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:20:33 PM7/28/12
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In article <a7i2k9...@mid.individual.net>, Paul Carmichael says...
>
> petrolcan escribiￜ:
>
> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >
> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >
> > http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>
> But why ISO200?

Dunno. That picture was at least three years ago.

steve robinson

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:24:56 PM7/28/12
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> £65 was taking the piss for an injection though!

The injections are cheap its the disposal of the animal subsequently
that costs

Sorry to here of your loss

petrolcan

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:27:16 PM7/28/12
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In article <xn0i14r30...@reader80.eternal-september.org>, steve
robinson says...
>
> petrolcan wrote:

> > The last 2 cats and more recently the dog have all had to be put down
> > due to sudden illness or injury so it was nice to be able to make the
> > decision rather than have it put upon us IYSWIM.
> >
> > £65 was taking the piss for an injection though!
>
> The injections are cheap its the disposal of the animal subsequently
> that costs

That was the injection! The cat is now in the garden under a paving
slab.



steve robinson

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:58:25 PM7/28/12
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petrolcan wrote:

> In article <xn0i14r30...@reader80.eternal-september.org>, steve
> robinson says...
> >
> > petrolcan wrote:
>
> > > The last 2 cats and more recently the dog have all had to be put
> > > down due to sudden illness or injury so it was nice to be able to
> > > make the decision rather than have it put upon us IYSWIM.
> > >
> > > ￜ65 was taking the piss for an injection though!
> >
> > The injections are cheap its the disposal of the animal subsequently
> > that costs
>
> That was the injection! The cat is now in the garden under a paving
> slab.
>

Ouch.

frag

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Jul 28, 2012, 1:51:50 PM7/28/12
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Paul Carmichael burbled...
>
> petrolcan escribiￜ:
>
> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >
> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >
> > http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>
> But why ISO200?

Cause (the digital equivalent of) ISO200 is a happy medium for that kind
of photo?

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frag

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Jul 28, 2012, 1:53:31 PM7/28/12
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petrolcan burbled...
Sorry to hear that.

Both my two are around 17 and happy at the moment. Changes are
continuing to be made to their lifestyle to maintain that happyness
(food is now on the floor, litter tray has come back out, back door is
open most of the time when I'm in), but so long as they're still happy
that's the main thing.

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frag

Cat

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Jul 28, 2012, 6:01:57 PM7/28/12
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Ppft. I had a lovely ride around West London, then did some shopping and
only nearly lost some out of the cargo net.

Commiserations to the OP though, I still miss my cat.

John Benn

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:57:20 AM7/29/12
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"petrolcan" wrote in message
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£65 was taking the piss for an injection though!
======================================

How old was your cat? I have two 17 year-old female felines.

John Benn

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:58:11 AM7/29/12
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"petrolcan" wrote in message
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==============================

That's well above the average life expectancy. Sorry about your loss but
she lived a very long life.

Ivan D. Reid

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Jul 29, 2012, 8:27:18 AM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:13 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote in <MPG.2a7d3e72d...@news.eternal-september.org>:
> Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.

You're not looking at it from our viewpoint...

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:29:54 PM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:20:32 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> I trust that a replacement kitty will soon be found.
>
>Not yet but I doubt it'll be long.

One always turns up.
Strangely, my cat record here isn't too good - they last on average
about three years before being run over, killed by dogs or foxes,
pegging out from something else, like squashing.
Never had a problem finding a replacement though - it's like jungle
telegraph. Where there's an empty cat space, one appears.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:30:48 PM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:24:56 +0100, "steve robinson"
<st...@colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote:

>The injections are cheap its the disposal of the animal subsequently
>that costs

Nonsense. I have a decent stream running past and a goodly river up
the road.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:31:13 PM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:27:16 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>That was the injection! The cat is now in the garden under a paving
>slab.

Dry sand/cement mix?

petrolcan

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Jul 29, 2012, 4:45:07 PM7/29/12
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In article <7c7b18hlkjod2k3ok...@4ax.com>, Grimly
Curmudgeon says...
Nah, the slab was precast concrete.

Apellation Controlee

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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:13 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
>time for the one way trip to the vet.
>
>Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
>
>Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
>
>http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg

Sorry to read this. It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it
comes about.

ogden

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Jul 30, 2012, 9:32:24 AM7/30/12
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Apellation Controlee wrote:
>
> Sorry to read this. It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it
> comes about.

I disagree. As far as my own pets are concerned, live gerbils are far
harder to deal with than dead ones. They move faster, for a start.

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petrolcan

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:54:41 PM7/31/12
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In article <bt2d1897h72a1s0fv...@4ax.com>, Apellation
Controlee says...
>
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:13 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
> >time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >
> >Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >
> >Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >
> >http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>
> Sorry to read this.

Cheers

> It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it comes about.

It's really not.

The hardest part was swallowing the bill.

Why can't vets do a 'no cure, no fee' tariff?


petrolcan

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Jul 31, 2012, 7:57:51 PM7/31/12
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In article <MPG.2a809d39...@news.eternal-september.org>, ogden
says...
>
> Apellation Controlee wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to read this. It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it
> > comes about.
>
> I disagree. As far as my own pets are concerned, live gerbils are far
> harder to deal with than dead ones. They move faster, for a start.

Heh. We know where the cat is now.

For the first time in our life we are without animals so Sam has decided
we need to foster.




Pip

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Jul 31, 2012, 8:35:13 PM7/31/12
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In article <MPG.2a8281573...@news.eternal-september.org>,
petrolcan says...
Gah!

IRTA "we need a lobster".

Time for bed, I think.

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Niel Humphreys

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I foster for the local shelter. It's surprisingly satisfying being given
terrified, wormy, skinny kittens and turning them around into healthy
confident and friendly little cats who will hopefully give someone 10-20
years of pleasure as pets. :)
--

Cheers
Niel H


Lobster

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Aug 1, 2012, 3:25:01 AM8/1/12
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Tell me about it. Our dog was was seriously ill last year for about a
week, and after numerous consultations and investigations ended up
snuffing it under the knife. We had to go in to settle up afterwards -
a cool �1100 :O

David


petrolcan

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Aug 1, 2012, 3:38:29 AM8/1/12
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In article <MPG.2a828a1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Pip
says...
Heh. Don't give her ideas.

petrolcan

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Aug 1, 2012, 3:38:30 AM8/1/12
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In article <jval8q$tsp$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...
That's the general intention. I fear the reality will be somewhat
different.

petrolcan

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In article <XO4Sr.470413$1o5.1...@fx03.am4>, Lobster says...
> a cool ￜ1100 :O

Similar here with our dog. ￜ850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
ended up with a body.

Niel Humphreys

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Just don't give them names - no-one gets attached then.....well not so far

Colin Irvine

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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:30 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> a cool �1100 :O
>
>Similar here with our dog. �850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
>ended up with a body.

Be thankful for the NHS.

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Fraser Johnston

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My ex-wife was a vet nurse for a while. She used to have clients all
the time trying to pay with their medicare card (our version of the nhs)
most of them were pretty put out when she asked for cash. She said it
happened at least once a week.

--

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petrolcan

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Aug 1, 2012, 4:49:17 AM8/1/12
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In article <7jph18l7gjbbge0l4...@4ax.com>, Colin Irvine
says...
>
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:30 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <XO4Sr.470413$1o5.1...@fx03.am4>, Lobster says...
> >>
> >> On 01/08/2012 00:54, petrolcan wrote:
> >> > In article <bt2d1897h72a1s0fv...@4ax.com>, Apellation
> >> > Controlee says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:13 +0100, petrolcan
> >> >> <petr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached
> >> >>> the time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry to read this.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >> It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it comes about.
> >> >
> >> > It's really not.
> >> >
> >> > The hardest part was swallowing the bill.
> >> >
> >> > Why can't vets do a 'no cure, no fee' tariff?
> >>
> >> Tell me about it. Our dog was was seriously ill last year for about a
> >> week, and after numerous consultations and investigations ended up
> >> snuffing it under the knife. We had to go in to settle up afterwards -
> >> a cool ￜ1100 :O
> >
> >Similar here with our dog. ￜ850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
> >ended up with a body.
>
> Be thankful for the NHS.

I am very thankful for the NHS (mostly)

petrolcan

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Aug 1, 2012, 4:49:27 AM8/1/12
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In article <jvan5v$79e$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...
Heh.

Ace

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Aug 1, 2012, 5:18:12 AM8/1/12
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:19:22 +0100, Colin Irvine
<lo...@colinandpat.co.uk/Contact/> wrote:

>On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:30 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <XO4Sr.470413$1o5.1...@fx03.am4>, Lobster says...

>>> > Why can't vets do a 'no cure, no fee' tariff?
>>>
>>> Tell me about it. Our dog was was seriously ill last year for about a
>>> week, and after numerous consultations and investigations ended up
>>> snuffing it under the knife. We had to go in to settle up afterwards -
>>> a cool �1100 :O
>>
>>Similar here with our dog. �850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
>>ended up with a body.
>
>Be thankful for the NHS.

Be angry at insurance companies driving up the cost of treatment.

Pip

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Aug 1, 2012, 5:49:13 AM8/1/12
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In article <jvan5v$79e$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...
>
> "petrolcan" <petr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2a82ec0e6...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <jval8q$tsp$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...

> >> I foster for the local shelter. It's surprisingly satisfying being given
> >> terrified, wormy, skinny kittens and turning them around into healthy
> >> confident and friendly little cats who will hopefully give someone 10-20
> >> years of pleasure as pets. :)
> >
> > That's the general intention. I fear the reality will be somewhat
> > different.
>
> Just don't give them names - then you can eat them.

Sensible policies.

Colin Irvine

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Insurance companies are the bane of vets' lives.

Hog.

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Aug 1, 2012, 6:00:43 AM8/1/12
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Uh Huh.
Be annoyed at owners demanding ever more complex treatment for their
cat/dog/gerbil. Now including MRI scans, diagnostic oncology, chemo and
radiotherapy.

--
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Grimly Curmudgeon

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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:30 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Tell me about it. Our dog was was seriously ill last year for about a
>> week, and after numerous consultations and investigations ended up
>> snuffing it under the knife. We had to go in to settle up afterwards -
>> a cool �1100 :O
>
>Similar here with our dog. �850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
>ended up with a body.

I don't know a poor vet. They all drive decent cars, live in decent
houses and have decent lifestyles. Of course, they work bloody hard
and often in conditions I wouldn't want to, but I feel their charges
for small animal work are sometimes a bit ott - most often if there's
an animal insurance co coughing up.
They're not all like that, though - a couple of them I've met will
waive charges for the unwaged /seriously skint pensioners or do
charity work, so it balances out in the karma stakes.

ogden

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Aug 1, 2012, 9:18:45 AM8/1/12
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Colin Irvine wrote:
>
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:30 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <XO4Sr.470413$1o5.1...@fx03.am4>, Lobster says...
> >>
> >> On 01/08/2012 00:54, petrolcan wrote:
> >> > In article <bt2d1897h72a1s0fv...@4ax.com>, Apellation
> >> > Controlee says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:11:13 +0100, petrolcan
> >> >> <petr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached
> >> >>> the time for the one way trip to the vet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry to read this.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >> It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it comes about.
> >> >
> >> > It's really not.
> >> >
> >> > The hardest part was swallowing the bill.
> >> >
> >> > Why can't vets do a 'no cure, no fee' tariff?
> >>
> >> Tell me about it. Our dog was was seriously ill last year for about a
> >> week, and after numerous consultations and investigations ended up
> >> snuffing it under the knife. We had to go in to settle up afterwards -
> >> a cool ￜ1100 :O
> >
> >Similar here with our dog. ￜ850 for 1.5 hours treatment and we still
> >ended up with a body.
>
> Be thankful for the NHS.

http://www.marcuschown.com/THE%20HEALTH%20AND%20SOCIAL%20CARE%20ACT%20-%
20Briefing%20-%20Marcus%20Chown.htm

ogden

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Hog. wrote:
>
> Ace wrote:
> > Be angry at insurance companies driving up the cost of treatment.
>
> Uh Huh.
> Be annoyed at owners demanding ever more complex treatment for their
> cat/dog/gerbil. Now including MRI scans, diagnostic oncology, chemo and
> radiotherapy.

I use the cost of replacement as the upper limit on the cost of any
treatment. Six quid each. Unsurprisingly, I've yet to put any business
the vet's way.

Hog.

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Aug 1, 2012, 9:23:43 AM8/1/12
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ogden wrote:
> Hog. wrote:
>>
>> Ace wrote:
>>> Be angry at insurance companies driving up the cost of treatment.
>>
>> Uh Huh.
>> Be annoyed at owners demanding ever more complex treatment for their
>> cat/dog/gerbil. Now including MRI scans, diagnostic oncology, chemo
>> and radiotherapy.
>
> I use the cost of replacement as the upper limit on the cost of any
> treatment. Six quid each. Unsurprisingly, I've yet to put any business
> the vet's way.

On this we can agree

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Colin Irvine

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Aug 1, 2012, 9:42:01 AM8/1/12
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:18:45 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:

>http://www.marcuschown.com/THE%20HEALTH%20AND%20SOCIAL%20CARE%20ACT%20-%
>20Briefing%20-%20Marcus%20Chown.htm

Well yes. Perhaps I should have said "Be thankful for the NHS while
you still have it."

Colin Irvine

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Aug 1, 2012, 9:43:04 AM8/1/12
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They earn less than doctors for arguably doing a more difficult job.

Hog.

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Aug 1, 2012, 10:00:01 AM8/1/12
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Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:18:45 +0100, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
>> http://www.marcuschown.com/THE%20HEALTH%20AND%20SOCIAL%20CARE%20ACT%20-%
>> 20Briefing%20-%20Marcus%20Chown.htm
>
> Well yes. Perhaps I should have said "Be thankful for the NHS while
> you still have it."

Oh don't worry, while there are problems:

"Six serious mistakes, dubbed 'never events' because they should never
occur, have happened in the last year at Croydon University Hospital, in
south London" the regulator has said.

There is hope:

"Waiting times at Hinchingbrooke Hospital in Cambridgeshire have been cut,
care is improving and managers have also succeeded in making savings"
according to firm Circle

We could end up with a German style NHS at this rate.

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Chris Lapthorn

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Aug 1, 2012, 12:35:11 PM8/1/12
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On 01/08/2012 11:00, Hog. wrote:

>
> Uh Huh.
> Be annoyed at owners demanding ever more complex treatment for their
> cat/dog/gerbil. Now including MRI scans, diagnostic oncology, chemo and
> radiotherapy.
>

Our vet suggested a consultation with a cardiologist when our cat was
having breathing difficulties. I hate to think what that would have
cost. She had already had injections, oxygen therapy, tablets and an
overnight stay which cost several hundred pounds. In the end she had to
be put to sleep at a further cost of about �100.

Chris

Ace

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Aug 1, 2012, 1:06:57 PM8/1/12
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:00:43 +0100, "Hog." <sm...@SPAMhotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:

>> Be angry at insurance companies driving up the cost of treatment.
>
>Uh Huh.
>Be annoyed at owners demanding ever more complex treatment for their
>cat/dog/gerbil. Now including MRI scans, diagnostic oncology, chemo and
>radiotherapy.

Sure. But what, do you think, drives that? The fact that many of them
have pet insurance so don't care about how much it costs, in the short
term, may be at least in part a significant driving factor.

frag

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Aug 1, 2012, 3:52:34 PM8/1/12
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ogden burbled...
>
> I use the cost of replacement as the upper limit on the cost of any
> treatment. Six quid each.

Each? How many Doris' are you entertaining?

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Hog.

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Aug 1, 2012, 6:39:07 PM8/1/12
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It's driven by a loss of perspective.

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Fraser Johnston

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Highest suicide rate of any profession, including dentists. They love
animals so they become vets, then spend most of their day killing
animals. A lot of the time because of purely financial reasons.

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Fraser


Lobster

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Aug 2, 2012, 5:50:24 AM8/2/12
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Oh I can give you a clue - our old cat had a heart murmur, so we were
told she needed a cardiac echogram doing (done by the heart bloke who
does a weekly clinic). Foolishly I didn't ask the cost up front, and
got stuck with a �500 bill. "And we'll need have to repeat it in 6
months to see how the treatment's working" - No you bloody won't...

Treatment was a daily dose of beta-blocker (which is exactly what would
have been prescribed if the diagnosis-confirming echo hadn't been done.)

It did piss me off though, in that the echo was presented as a fait
accompli; that this is what needs to be done, no question about whether
it was cost-effective or worthwhile etc - ie I was 'told', not 'asked'
about it. You wonder if it would have been handled differently if I'd
been a little old lady on a pension. But yes I should have been more
assertive at the time.

As others have said, it's driven by insurance, which we stopped
subscribing to years ago (and despite the above claim and the �1100 dog
one, I've come out massively ahead over the last few years).

David

LucretiaBorgia

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Aug 2, 2012, 9:56:01 AM8/2/12
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On 02/08/2012 10:50, Lobster wrote:

> As others have said, it's driven by insurance, which we stopped
> subscribing to years ago (and despite the above claim and the �1100 dog
> one, I've come out massively ahead over the last few years).
>
> David

My old cat didn't qualify for insurance as he was too old but these new
guys will definitely get it. CPL give them 4 weeks free insurance when
you adopt them.

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Timo Geusch

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petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com> writes:

> In article <MPG.2a809d39...@news.eternal-september.org>, ogden
> says...
>>
>> Apellation Controlee wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry to read this. It's the hardest part of pet ownership when it
>> > comes about.
>>
>> I disagree. As far as my own pets are concerned, live gerbils are far
>> harder to deal with than dead ones. They move faster, for a start.
>
> Heh. We know where the cat is now.
>
> For the first time in our life we are without animals so Sam has decided
> we need to foster.

You might want to check with muddycat how that's working out - IIRC they
adopted at least two of their recent foster kittens...

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geoff

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In message <MPG.2a7e20e5f...@news.eternal-september.org>,
petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com> writes
>In article <jv06fa$i92$1...@dont-email.me>, Niel Humphreys says...
>>
>> "petrolcan" <petr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2a7d3e72d...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > but not in a bad way. We decided last night that she had reached the
>> > time for the one way trip to the vet.
>> >
>> > Not happy about it but we're sure that we did the right thing.
>> >
>> > Very odd having no animals in the house. Very odd indeed.
>> >
>> > http://petrolcan.me.uk/ukrm/galore.jpg
>>
>>
>> It's never easy to lose a pet, especially so when she was your only one, but
>> you did the right thing. So many people keep pets alive & suffering for
>> their own benefit.
>
>The last 2 cats and more recently the dog have all had to be put down
>due to sudden illness or injury so it was nice to be able to make the
>decision rather than have it put upon us IYSWIM.
>
>�65 was taking the piss for an injection though!


Park vets wanted �350 to remove my cat's eye after it developed a cyst.
Sonded a bit much to me so I left it - almost cleared up by itself now
...



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Grimly Curmudgeon

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Aug 3, 2012, 10:33:44 AM8/3/12
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 00:36:59 +0100, geoff <bums...@ukrm.org> wrote:

>Park vets wanted �350 to remove my cat's eye after it developed a cyst.
>Sonded a bit much to me so I left it - almost cleared up by itself now

Hammer, chisel, bit of tar. Sorted.
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