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newman

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Mar 28, 2004, 4:46:57 AM3/28/04
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I was recently the winning bidder on a television. The item was pictured
twice with a matching stand. It now appears that no stand is included based
upon the words "stand: no" being tucked away in the description. Am I
entitled to reply upon the two prominent photos or can the seller simply
cite the text as accurate?


C-Beeby

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Mar 28, 2004, 6:19:56 AM3/28/04
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"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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if it says there is no stand then it is not reasonable to expect there to be
a stand.

Feathers


newman

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Mar 28, 2004, 6:16:55 AM3/28/04
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Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
with the stand? At best I feel that the difference between the picures and
the reality are seriously misleading.


"C-Beeby" <twee...@northamptonshire.co.uk> wrote in message
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Crunchie

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Mar 28, 2004, 6:29:21 AM3/28/04
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"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
> with the stand? At best I feel that the difference between the picures and
> the reality are seriously misleading.
>
>
The listing said no stand, the TV had to be on something to take its
picture, if he had put it on top of a car to take a picture would you expect
the car :)

Crunch................


Grymma

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Mar 28, 2004, 6:33:44 AM3/28/04
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newman wrote:
|| Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item
|| showed it with the stand? At best I feel that the difference between
|| the picures and the reality are seriously misleading.

I think 'stand: no' is a bit minimal, but it *is* there. Personally I
would have listed very clearly 'NB Stand shown in photos NOT included in
auction' in bold type with a few asterisks either side of the sentence for
good measure to draw attention, but this seller didn't :o/ It is up to
the buyer to read the entire blurb, and ask questions about things which
seem ambiguous to them, though.

IMO, of course,

Grymma

Penny

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Mar 28, 2004, 7:16:39 AM3/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:46:57 +0100, newman scrawled in the dust...

What size is the TV? I have two or three unused TV stands around (and one
which I converted to a printer stand).
--
Penny
listen: there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go
e. e. cummings

Rob Morley

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Mar 28, 2004, 7:54:50 AM3/28/04
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In article <4066a006$0$31675$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk>, "newman"
newma...@yahoo.co.uk says...
The text will always take precedence in a case like this. Many computer
systems are pictured with monitors, but the text says "base unit only".

Abso

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Mar 28, 2004, 7:59:47 AM3/28/04
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Penny wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:46:57 +0100, newman scrawled in the dust...
>
> > I was recently the winning bidder on a television. The item was
> > pictured twice with a matching stand. It now appears that no stand
> > is included based upon the words "stand: no" being tucked away in
> > the description. Am I entitled to reply upon the two prominent
> > photos or can the seller simply cite the text as accurate?
> >
> What size is the TV? I have two or three unused TV stands around (and
> one which I converted to a printer stand).

Likewise I can offer the OP a TV stand in black on a collect only basis
from Slough. It'll house up to a 28" widescreen telly and is basically
quite sound (I'd need to give it a clean to check the condition
properly). It was destined for the bin 'cos I thought it too heavy to
sell on eBay.

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Rick Maninov

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Mar 28, 2004, 10:15:34 AM3/28/04
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"Penny" <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 10:46:57 +0100, newman scrawled in the dust...
>
> >I was recently the winning bidder on a television. The item was pictured
> >twice with a matching stand. It now appears that no stand is included
based
> >upon the words "stand: no" being tucked away in the description. Am I
> >entitled to reply upon the two prominent photos or can the seller simply
> >cite the text as accurate?
> >
> What size is the TV? I have two or three unused TV stands around (and one
> which I converted to a printer stand).

Most telly shops end up slinging em, I've seen rooms piled to ceiling with
stands no-one wanted, and they're the devils own when it comes to seperating
em. (We've even tried throwing a bucket of water over em ;-).
Just have a word at the local TV repair shop.

Rick.


Mike Fleming

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Mar 28, 2004, 12:55:55 PM3/28/04
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In article <4066b51f$0$31696$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk>, "newman"
<newma...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
> with the stand? At best I feel that the difference between the picures and
> the reality are seriously misleading.

That brings to mind when TOG was selling a Honda CB500T chassis, and
had to keep telling potential buyers that the
SuperSoaker/trailer/house/bucket and spade weren't also included.

--
Mike Fleming

steeler

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:01:29 PM3/28/04
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"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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You know all those TV and press adverst that include a tiny "actual item not
as shown" disclaimer so small you can hardly read it? Same rules say you
are screwed.


Gran

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:18:28 PM3/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:15:34 +0100,
I have an unused TV stand here at home. Does anyone have a spare TV they
let can let me have? I also have a new bank account, all ready and
waiting. Can anyone send me some dosh to fill it up please?
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Gran
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C-Beeby

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:38:21 PM3/28/04
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"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "C-Beeby" <twee...@northamptonshire.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c46bvq$2eul6k$1...@ID-198887.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:4066a006$0$31675$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
> Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
> with the stand?

Did you bid on the TV or the stand? A lot of auctions have photos with a CD
next to them for scale. Would you leave feedback saying "Lovely soft toy,
but didn't come with copy of Sergeant Pepper in photograph"? I photograph
anything I can't scan on a wooden table. It'd cost me a heck of a lot to
post a table with every Subbuteo set I sent out, so I tend not to lump them
together

>At best I feel that the difference between the picures and
> the reality are seriously misleading.

not so. The listing said 'no stand', there ain't gonna be no stand.

Feathers


Gran

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:50:41 PM3/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:38:21 +0100,

>"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:4066b51f$0$31696$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
>> "C-Beeby" <twee...@northamptonshire.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:c46bvq$2eul6k$1...@ID-198887.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > "newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:4066a006$0$31675$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
>> Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
>> with the stand?
>
<<SNIPP>>

> I photograph
>anything I can't scan on a wooden table.

How do you scan stuff on a wooden table?

<<SNIPP>>

>
>not so. The listing said 'no stand', there ain't gonna be no stand.

What if it was the Stephen King book "The Stand" photographed on a
lecturn?

"The Stand" comes without a stand.

Standard stuff?


--
Gran
"I have no listings running right now and I'm screaming *bored*"

C-Beeby

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Mar 28, 2004, 2:32:53 PM3/28/04
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"Gran" <gr...@nonegreens.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:38:21 +0100,
> > I photograph
> >anything I can't scan on a wooden table.
>
> How do you scan stuff on a wooden table?
>
> <<SNIPP>>
>
> >
> >not so. The listing said 'no stand', there ain't gonna be no stand.
>
> What if it was the Stephen King book "The Stand" photographed on a
> lecturn?
>
> "The Stand" comes without a stand.
>
> Standard stuff?

now, Gran, you're just being silly :-)

I've sold a couple of copies of 'The Stand' as it 'appens.

Feathers


Gran

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Mar 28, 2004, 4:21:17 PM3/28/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:32:53 +0100,
Silly! Moi! Oh Feathers, how your throwaway comment cuts to the very
quick of my soul .... I shall weep into my pillow until dawn......

Bob Goddard

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Mar 29, 2004, 4:09:31 AM3/29/04
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In message <c475lq$28bgbj$1...@ID-198887.news.uni-berlin.de>, C-Beeby
<twee...@northamptonshire.co.uk> writes

>"newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:4066b51f$0$31696$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
>> "C-Beeby" <twee...@northamptonshire.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:c46bvq$2eul6k$1...@ID-198887.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > "newman" <newma...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:4066a006$0$31675$fa0f...@lovejoy.zen.co.uk...
>> Why would it be unreasonable if two large pictures of the item showed it
>> with the stand?
>
>Did you bid on the TV or the stand? A lot of auctions have photos with a CD
>next to them for scale. Would you leave feedback saying "Lovely soft toy,
>but didn't come with copy of Sergeant Pepper in photograph"? I photograph
>anything I can't scan on a wooden table. It'd cost me a heck of a lot to
>post a table with every Subbuteo set I sent out, so I tend not to lump them
>together

Yes, but what am I supposed to do with all these rulers that sellers
keep sending me?

(Bob
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Emma

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Mar 29, 2004, 5:26:56 AM3/29/04
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Bob Goddard <sp...@spam.spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>Yes, but what am I supposed to do with all these rulers that sellers
>keep sending me?

Sell them on Ebay of course!
But remember to put a ruler next to them to show their size. ;-)

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Gran

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Mar 29, 2004, 1:29:53 PM3/29/04
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:26:56 +0100,

>Bob Goddard <sp...@spam.spam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, but what am I supposed to do with all these rulers that sellers
>>keep sending me?
>
>Sell them on Ebay of course!
>But remember to put a ruler next to them to show their size. ;-)

Don't photograph them on a TV stand though.

Tim Forcer

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Mar 30, 2004, 2:36:37 AM3/30/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:50 Gran wrote:

>> I photograph
>>anything I can't scan on a wooden table.
>
> How do you scan stuff on a wooden table?

With a handheld scanner. (Been there, done that.)

Or by having one's non-handheld scanner sat on, um, a wooden
table.

</pedant>

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C-Beeby

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Mar 30, 2004, 2:48:48 AM3/30/04
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"Tim Forcer" <t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:50 Gran wrote:
>
> >> I photograph
> >>anything I can't scan on a wooden table.
> >
> > How do you scan stuff on a wooden table?
>
> With a handheld scanner. (Been there, done that.)
>
> Or by having one's non-handheld scanner sat on, um, a wooden
> table.

for the sake of clarity, I meant anything which won't fit in my scanner I
put on a wooden table and take a photograph of with a digital camera

Feathers


Emma

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Mar 30, 2004, 2:56:41 AM3/30/04
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Gran <gr...@nonegreens.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:26:56 +0100,
>>Bob Goddard <sp...@spam.spam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, but what am I supposed to do with all these rulers that sellers
>>>keep sending me?
>>
>>Sell them on Ebay of course!
>>But remember to put a ruler next to them to show their size. ;-)
>
>Don't photograph them on a TV stand though.

Or a table, or next to anything reflective... ;-)

Gran

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Mar 30, 2004, 11:47:58 AM3/30/04
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:48:48 +0100,
Yeah, I *knew* that really ..... just in silly mode. Sorry hun.
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Gran
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