Hi...
I am thinking of getting 2 dydoe piercings this monday & was
wondering if anybody has any experience of getting this done? .. is it a
good pierce to have & also to heal up...
Thanks in advance.. *Steve
I was told by Mr Sebastian many years ago that it is *almost impossible*
to find enough tough skin at the edges of the glans to ensure a
satisfactory result unless the ridge is quite unusually pronounced. Even
then, the dydoe is most likely to tear in use, because partly it has to
be fairly shallow, and secondly it exits at an angle to the skin, and
thirdly the skin there is moving up and down in relation to the metal,
leaving it pronounced and with more leverage to pull.
Perhaps if you just want it for show, then maybe it would work, but not
if you are 'active' in any sense of the word.
Just my 2p worth, you may know better...... Ted?
--
David
> >
> Well, I am *very doubtful* about these being a good idea at all. I know
> people say they are OK, but I've only read one account of it being done,
> Doug Malloy, many years ago, who had his in and out like yo-yos, he
> said. Although we have Ted here who has deep ones apparently as well as
> a frenum ring.
> David
Thanks for this bit of advice david i am not to sure of having
this done now as i dont seem to have a very big ridge around my glands
for this type of piercing to be successful ....... I may go for a pa
instead.
*Steve
Well, just my advice Steve, but ask around and satisfy yourself with
several opinions. Glad we could help. The only problem is that if it
goes wrong its painful and a mess to sort out...
Now a PA I *can* recommend. I'd say no thinner than 2.4mm, and again,
make sure you know what you're getting into. I you have a web of skin
directly underneath, you should know the PA will need to go slightly to
one side, to avoid tearing it, but it makes no real difference.
At least this is one of the fastest healing male piercings, IME,
although you may find peeing a bit painful for a couple of weeks. Do the
regular salt soak / q tip / calendula thing and you'll be fine.
--
David
Just come back from being away for 10 days at a working demo of my other
work. Will comment fully tomorrow, right nackered just now. Ted.
Dydoes do work well if you plan it right. A tired but happy Ted.
> David wrote:
>>
>> Well, I am *very doubtful* about these being a good idea at all...
>
> Thanks for this bit of advice david i am not to sure of having
> this done now as i dont seem to have a very big ridge around my glands
> for this type of piercing to be successful ....... I may go for a pa
> instead.
NOOOOOOO..! You'll piss down your leg. It's horrible. Get an amp, instead.
The PA *is* a lovely piercing, in many ways. You'll think it's great until
you come back from the gents on a first date with a wet streak down yer
jeans. Get an amp instead.
Stroller.
You just have to either sit down, or hold your nob upside down when
pissing.
Admittedly I only discovered this after pissing down my leg in the loos
of a very brightly lit kebab shop.
--
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Like Dungeons and Dragons?"
"Those of us high in the experiential hierarchy find conventional D and D
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scenarios. But that's not for just anyone." (_The Big U_, Neal Stephenson)
> NOOOOOOO..! You'll piss down your leg. It's horrible. Get an amp, instead.
> The PA *is* a lovely piercing, in many ways. You'll think it's great until
> you come back from the gents on a first date with a wet streak down yer
> jeans. Get an amp instead.
Unless, of course, you wear a circular barbell or screw-in-ball BCR, and
then you can remove it, plug the hole with a fingertip, and then replace the
ring when you're done.
---Clay
> In article <iva1n9...@grinch.seuss>, Stroller <stro...@bigfoot.com>
> gibbers
>>NOOOOOOO..! You'll piss down your leg. It's horrible. Get an amp, instead.
>>The PA *is* a lovely piercing, in many ways. You'll think it's great until
>>you come back from the gents on a first date with a wet streak down yer
>>jeans. Get an amp instead.
>
> You just have to either sit down, or hold your nob upside down when
> pissing.
Unfortunately, holding it upside down never worked for me, and the problem
was of over-confidence in my ability to stand arises after a beer or 2.
Stroller.
Yeah, that is SO pleasant. Fun if you drop the ball in the urinal, too.
Much easier to just get an amp in the first place.
I wish it was possible for me to have some concept of how annoying pissing
would become before I got my PA, but I didn't really think of amps at the
time. It was a damn fine & comfy piercing in many other ways, but it's now
my mission to pursuade those considering a PA of the folly of that course.
Stroller.
for what it's worth I've never found pissing a problem. Sure, I sit
down, sure I turn it upside down at urinals, but I've never found this
to be a hassle or an annoyance
*shrug*
Smeg
> for what it's worth I've never found pissing a problem. Sure, I sit
> down, sure I turn it upside down at urinals, but I've never found this
> to be a hassle or an annoyance
>
> *shrug*
>
> Smeg
So far i have not had a great problem with the pissing either.. just
the odd damp patch :)
*Steve
Ive had a chance now to read all the posts made about this thread and it
seems the deed is done. Steve Has opted for a PA and the question
wetherto go for dydoes or not no longer applies for him just now.
So a long outline of the relative advantages of the 2 genital piercings
will be somewhat unneccesary.
All I can comment is I wish Mr. Sebastian was around today, it would
have been great to discuss all the developments that have taken place
since he went on to pierce higher things.
In my article "Developng the dydoe" which is on the bme web site under
dydoe piercing articles, the early work I did and my experiments are
outlined in some detail.Those results are still relevant.
Since that article I been experimenting with further ideas the main one
being the combination of the dydoes with a flexible loop of beads behind
the corona. These are drilled and tapped close to the edge of the beads
so that there is no strain on the piercing despite the beads being 12mm
in diameter. these are held in place by a flexible silicone loop
threaded through the "through" hole in the beads. 5 beads are connected
to the dydoes, the other 5 are just spacers to make up the total of 10
large beads. these are also intersperced with 10 small gold beads
contrasting with the blue colour of the large ones. This is the largest
practical size Ive found for wear and use.
The piercings go deep into the glans for 12mm so they come out ar approx
45" to the surface. The piercing material is 1.6mm ptfe so is flexible.
the Half round beads sit well on the surface of the glans and being 8mm
dia by 5mm high.
It Looks good when its all covered by my foreskin, with only a hint of
the large coronal beads, uncovered it still surprises me!! despite
having it now in its current development cycle for some 9 months now.
Dydoes do work well if the jewellery and placement are carfully thought
out and they lend themselves to ongoing additions more so than a PA.
Ted Frater. Wondering what else one can do with the idea.
Glad to see you are using PTFE though, good move. Don't you get any
pressure on the glans end pushing the piercing back and trying to tear
it?
--
David
The simple answer is no. Because the other end of the ptfe is into the
coronal beads which cant move backwards on account of the silicone loop
holding it all in place especially when ready for use. Obviously careful
insertion prior to use is best but once there vigorous use is no
problem. However the other advantage is that vigorous use is not needed
because the bead stimulus even when slow moving is much more for ones
partner than without any jewellery there. This prolongs the time before
one has to give it all!!
Altho Ive 5 dydoes, 4 would be enough to support the same arangement
spaced as follows. 2, 4,8 and 10 o'clock. As I dont have a frenum as
such im not able to use skin there as additional support. I cut it away
rather a long time ago to achieve a circumcised look ( when I wanted
to) without being cut.
thanks David for following my outline.
Ted.
Crumbs, quite a complex thing then, and certainly not your average 10
minute job.... which section of bme is it in? Oh.... Dydoes.
So without seeing the images, and just picking up from the words, you
have a circular silicon loop that rests pretty closely round the
circumference where a frenum loop would go, and its connected to five
ptfe dydoe 'extensions' equally spaced round the circumference, and
each extension is held apart / spaced at the back by alternating ptfe
and gold balls, yes?
And the balls that rest on the glans are half flat, so they lie flatter,
and those at the rear, loop end of the dydoe are drilled and tapped so
the bar is threaded into them. These rear balls also have the loop going
through them at right angles, which stops the dydoe bars going
backwards. The spacers are spacers, but form a bead 'ring'. Got it.
I'm sure Mr Sebastian would have been thrilled to see all that, but
whether it would have been possible to add it to his PA, reverse PA and
ampallang which apparently went between them, I don't know :-))
As to what more you could do, well I'd thought you could have a second
smaller loop that connected the dydoe half flat beads together in a ring
round the glans. Being a smaller diameter it should stay there, though
whether the pressure of more beads would be too great a strain is
difficult to tell.
--
David
Not a hugely clear pic, but I think Ted means something like this:
http://www.ukbodyart.org/img/DSCF0016.JPG
This is onle one dydoe bar, and the bead near the bottom of the pic is
actually half a bead, you can vaguely see where the ptfe goes all the
way through it.
Smeg
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