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mr_gobrien

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May 19, 2006, 6:15:46 AM5/19/06
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Sheltered me hasn't heard of the "Koatian Sect" but it seems they are
into bdsm and in Darlington, and are in all the national papers today.
e.g. This from the Daily Mirror website;

"THE SEX SLAVES OF DARLINGTON

Outrage as cult keeps women in chains

By Jeremy Armstrong

A SORDID cult that puts women in chains as sex slaves is operating from
a terraced house in Darlington.

Under the rules of the Kaotian sect run by "master" Lee Thompson, women
are trussed up in bondage gear and beaten with whips and
cat-o'-nine-tails.

When they leave the house Thompson, 31, puts them in collars and wrist
cuffs and leads them on a leash like a dog. At home they have to cook,
clean, sit at the master's feet and carry out his every whim without
complaint.

The sick antics of the balding, bearded Thompson have provoked outrage
in the Co Durham town. He was banned from a local butcher's shop after
he wandered in leading a woman on a chain and attempted to buy bacon.

Police investigated the cult after getting a phone call claiming a
29-year-old Canadian woman was trapped in Thompson's pebbledashed
house.

A friend insisted she had emailed saying she wanted to leave the cult
but was not being allowed to. She was taken to a women's refuge by
police before returning home.

Police were also contacted by the worried father of 18-year-old Zachary
Nicodemous, who left his home in Essex and quit his job to become
Thompson's "apprentice". Thompson yesterday insisted he was not doing
anything wrong. He described himself as a master who trains and keeps
women slaves that come to him willingly after meeting in internet chat
rooms. He said: "It is a total lifestyle based on the system that some
women have a desire to serve."

But a friend of Zachary's frantic mum Mary said she feared the cult had
brainwashed him.

The pal added: "Zach is not exactly a man of the world. He's a geeky
sort of lad. I'd be surprised if he's slept with a woman before."

The Kaotian sect is based on the 1960s science fiction writing of
American John Norman, who described a fantasy society in which women
were treated as slaves.

Thompson, who has a long-term partner, runs Britain's North East branch
of the cult. It allegedly has 350 members. There are said to be 25,000
Kaotians in the UK.

A shocked neighbour said: "You don't really need that sort of thing
here." Durham Police said: "Our investigation did not disclose any
criminal offences."

jeremy.a...@mirror.co.uk '

Google seems not to throw up much more.

Brian Downstairs

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:31:40 AM4/29/11
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Well, a lady on a Sussex based radio station this morning basically said,
well, if this had occurred in Brighton, nobody would have noticed anything
out of the ordinary, as long as nobody is doing anything against their will,
its surely a personal choice.

A similar reaction from, another lady on a London station, maybe its not so
much what, as where it is being done which is the problem here.

I certain feel that it is inadvisable to bring people out in a collar and
leash in a society not prepared for it. After all, we all have a
responsibility to behave within the conventions accepted where we live,
surely?

Brian

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SinPar

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May 19, 2006, 11:18:56 AM5/19/06
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One of the topics that is notoriously touchy within the greater kink
community is discretion. There are some dominants that think that making
their slave kneel to be fed in the middle of a busy family restaurant, walk
on a leash in the mall, or ride the escalator in a ridiculously short skirt
whilst wearing nothing underneath right in view of children is just fine
because it's covered under their right to express themselves. I'm not one to
rub a vanilla person's nose in my kink, especially not if there are children
present. As kinky person as well as a mother I am perfectly comfortable
telling anyone that their right to sexual self-expression stops at the door
to my house and anywhere that I am with my son in a public venue where
activities take place that I don't want him to be confronted with until I
think he's ready. That's actually less of a problem now that he's sixteen
and we're out to him- but pulling your slave's breast out and pinching the
nipple as she gives you a blow job in his presence will probably make me get
out the water pistol I use on the cats when they're bad. I won't be aiming
at the submissive, either.

Vanilla people have the right to not be confronted with "in your face" BDSM
activities. Clothing that's within accepted bounds of decency, discreet
collars, leathers... that's stuff that's seen in the media all the time and
they can either look or not look. Walking people around with their hands
tied, on a leash, having them engage in kneeling or footstool behaviors is
just... gauche. Sort of the BDSM equivalent of chewing with your mouth open.

Again... location matters. I suspect that I'd get less notice walking
someone on a leash in parts of San Francisco or New York than I would in
Nashville or Omaha. That someone would pull that sort of stunt in a small
town speaks to either an insanely high level of arrogance , insensitivity,
or stupidity.

SinPar
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Boris Ludmenkov

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May 19, 2006, 1:32:46 PM5/19/06
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It's also on the BBC web site (although you have to search for it: try
"Goreans") and there's a download of a local radio interview with the
'cult leader'. Who sounds like a bit of an ijjiit. But then he has
several (two?) slaves and I have none so that's probably just my envy
speaking.

Query: are there no competent maledoms in Canada that the poor lassie
had to travel the Atlantic to be satisfied?

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shouldn't you be out organising a revolution or something....'

Brian Downstairs

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:31:40 AM4/29/11
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Well, that is exactly how I feel. Now Darlington is not exactly a small town
these days, but like most places, it no doubt has parts where eyebrows would
raise, and some where they would not, and those with sensitive feelings or
children would not go to the ones where this kind of behaviour was common.

I readily recall my first visit to Soho in London, many years ago!

Also, in the story, we are forced to wonder about the lady who was rescued,
as it were, and why, as it sounds to be only half the story, particularly
because of the way the Police suggest there has been no crime.

I thought that they had the discretion to prosecute for assault even if the
alleged victim decided not to.

Brian

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graham

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:31:41 AM4/29/11
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Hi there,

On 19 May 2006 03:15:46 -0700, "mr_gobrien"
<mr_gobri...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Sheltered me hasn't heard of the "Koatian Sect" but it seems they are
>into bdsm and in Darlington, and are in all the national papers today.
>e.g. This from the Daily Mirror website;

This is the BBC's take on it, which is marginally less sensationalist
and judgemental, but is still not exactly the most unbiased piece of
journalism ever.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4996410.stm


Here's what I wrote in another discussion forum about the BBC's
article:

* * * * *

First let's just take a closer look at that article. Remember, this is
the BBC reporting and they're not usually noted for their
sensationalism (unlike the Tabloid Press).

"A sex slavery cult"

Note the loaded words "sex slavery". Usually a term used to describe
the activities of people who eg traffic women from Eastern Europe etc
and force them into prostitution. Totally inappropriate in this case
since the "slavery" is entirely consensual. Also whilst Goreanism
involves sex, it is more correctly about submission and power exchange
(see later).

"Cult".

Another emotive term, generally implying "nutcases". And whilst on the
subject, I could mention Religious "cults" (adherents of an exclusive
system of religious beliefs and practices) where female members take
vows of obedience. Some of these "cults" have millions of members!

"has been uncovered by police"

Implying that it's somehow "hidden" or "secret". But it isn't, any
more than a business making leather bondage gear would be "uncovered"
if the Police came around to my place. And if it was "uncovered" why
didn't anyone notice it before when "up to 350 followers regularly
meet in pubs and clubs around the North East, in an area from Berwick
to York."?

"discovered the bizarre sect"

"Discovered", again, implications of concealment. "Bizarre", ie
different to what we think is "normal." and "Sect"? "A sect is a small
religious group that has branched off of a larger established
religion", well, actually that's accurate in that they're an off-shoot
of Goreanism, but by that definition you could call Protestantism a
"sect" too!

"after raiding a home in the area"

"Raiding"? Implications of doors being kicked in and Police storming
the place. But that doesn't exactly gel with "a police spokesman said
upon arriving at the premises they did not find any evidence of
"criminal offences"."

"Upon arriving"? Maybe, I'm just guessing here, they rang the doorbell
and said "we've had these reports, we'd like to ask some questions."
Hardly sounds like a "raid" to me.

"police also found the teenager was at the property voluntarily and
they had no grounds to get involved."

And hooray for our Police! They had enough sense to realise that
nobody was breaking any laws, there was no coercion, no threats, no
force, just a bunch of people who are a bit "different" from "normal".

* * * * *

As far as I'm concerned, that last paragraph is the most relevant bit,
ie that the Police exercised a little sense instead of the
sensationalism of the news media and that is no bad thing.

Cheers,
Graham.
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Dedicated to supplying sensibly priced adult leather BDSM gear
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Brian G.

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Apr 29, 2011, 12:31:41 AM4/29/11
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Being fair to the Brighton station, BBC SCR that I heard mention this, and
the London station (BBC again) both of whom seemed to find the
outrageousness funny because they had seen much more in their areas, I think
its the written word that often gets these terms put in. As I say, I imagine
it may have also had something to do with a quiet news day at the time.

I have noticed inappropriate use of sensationalistic terms for things even
in local papers. maybe its expected these days?

Brian

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Boris Ludmenkov

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May 22, 2006, 9:14:50 AM5/22/06
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In message <eaa172hh0ouj2eji4...@4ax.com>, graham
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>"has been uncovered by police"
>
>Implying that it's somehow "hidden" or "secret". But it isn't, any more
>than a business making leather bondage gear would be "uncovered" if the
>Police came around to my place. And if it was "uncovered" why didn't
>anyone notice it before when "up to 350 followers regularly meet in
>pubs and clubs around the North East, in an area from Berwick to York."?

It's an especially puzzling use of words given that the 'master of the
cult' was in the habit of leading his ladyfriends into butchers' shops
on a leash. That isn't in the closet, it's in your face!

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