UK Usenet Committee Elections 2009 - Confirmed Candidates

[Barry Salter]

Confirmed nominations have been received for the following:

Jonathan Amery jdamery (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
David Damerell damerell (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
Graham Drabble usenet05 (at) drabble (dot) me (dot) uk
Clive D. W. Feather clive (at) davros (dot) org
Fiona Gostling (aka 'kat') kat (dot) news (at) ntlworld (dot) com
Ian Jackson ijackson (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
Matthew Vernon matthew (at) debian (dot) org

As there are seven candidates for four vacancies on the Committee, an
Election will now be held.

Cheers,

Barry
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Barry Salter, bsalter (at) ukvoting (dot) org (dot) uk

[The Happy Hippy]

"Barry Salter" <bsa...@ukvoting.org.uk> wrote ...

> Confirmed nominations have been received for the following:
>
> Jonathan Amery jdamery (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
> David Damerell damerell (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
> Graham Drabble usenet05 (at) drabble (dot) me (dot) uk
> Clive D. W. Feather clive (at) davros (dot) org
> Fiona Gostling (aka 'kat') kat (dot) news (at) ntlworld (dot) com
> Ian Jackson ijackson (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
> Matthew Vernon matthew (at) debian (dot) org

Out of interest, as four nominees have a relationship to it, and it
describes itself, seemingly tongue-in-cheek, as "Sinister, apparently.
Dedicated to the overthrow of something-or-other", what exactly is
"chiark.greened.org.uk' ?

I'm curious as to why four people with 'something in common' would all be
standing for election. Not that they shouldn't nor am I suggesting they
don't have merit or there is anything untoward, it just caught my attention.
Perhaps I'm premature and my curiosity will be addressed at 'hustings' ?

[Chris French]

In message <yqiDm.5252$KR3....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Happy
Hippy <the.happy....@ntlworld.com> writes

According to the paranoid ramblings of Steve Firth elsewhere on Usenet
it's all a plot to takeover the committee by cyclists or something

--
Chris French

[Steve Firth]

Chris French <new...@familyfrench.co.uk> wrote:

> According to the paranoid ramblings of Steve Firth elsewhere on Usenet
> it's all a plot to takeover the committee by cyclists or something

You'd do better if you didn't tell lies. Mind you, porkies and
fuckwittery seem to be part of the cyclists' charter.

[Dominic Hargreaves]

In uk.net.news.config The Happy Hippy <the.happy....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Out of interest, as four nominees have a relationship to it, and it
> describes itself, seemingly tongue-in-cheek, as "Sinister, apparently.
> Dedicated to the overthrow of something-or-other", what exactly is
> "chiark.greened.org.uk' ?
>
> I'm curious as to why four people with 'something in common' would all be
> standing for election. Not that they shouldn't nor am I suggesting they
> don't have merit or there is anything untoward, it just caught my attention.
> Perhaps I'm premature and my curiosity will be addressed at 'hustings' ?

My understanding is simply that it is a multi-user system which a
number of people have accounts for reading mail and other network
and computing activities, used mainly by people residing in the UK.
My guess is that its users are much more computing and Internet
literate than the general population and are therefore quite likely
to be the sort of people to be interested in the management of uk.*

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[Mr Benn]

"Dominic Hargreaves" <d...@earth.li> wrote in message
news:hc7s0c$mgr$5...@frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk...

So a rabid obsession with cyclists' rights is a red herring?

[Percy Picacity]

"Mr Benn" <nos...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:hc93dm$bo9$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

Well yes it is, I think: it is more a conviction that the uk.*
hierarchy would be much better run if they ran it. This derives
from their impression that urcm would have been set up much more
quickly and efficiently if they were in charge: their obsession
with cyclists perhaps magnifies the enormity of the delay to such a
vital project.

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Percy Picacity

[Pedt]

In message <hvdme5t7matrusv5r...@4ax.com>, at 19:10:44 on
Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Cherry Chapstick <az...@invalid.really.really> wibbled

>On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:31:46 +0100, Barry Salter
><bsa...@ukvoting.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Confirmed nominations have been received for the following:
>>
>>Jonathan Amery jdamery (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
>>David Damerell damerell (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
>>Graham Drabble usenet05 (at) drabble (dot) me (dot) uk
>>Clive D. W. Feather clive (at) davros (dot) org
>>Fiona Gostling (aka 'kat') kat (dot) news (at) ntlworld (dot) com
>>Ian Jackson ijackson (at) chiark (dot) greenend (dot) org (dot) uk
>>Matthew Vernon matthew (at) debian (dot) org
>>
>>As there are seven candidates for four vacancies on the Committee, an
>>Election will now be held.
>

>I have recently tried to vote from my most commonly used email
>address. I sent a request to the requisite email adress and recieved
>a ballot form in reply.
>
>Now, this email address was compromised some years ago - it is not on
>a 'reliable' domain (it is on a domain similar to hotmail), and was
>used as the source of spam. Nonetheless, I have carried on using it
>as many people from my past will email there, and it is easy enough to
>delete the spam. There are other email addresses that I use that are
>not compromised, but I thought that this would be the best email
>address as it is one that I used on usenet before spam address
>harvesting became common and before I got hijacked (yes, I know I have
>a stable where the horse has bolted).
>
>This is why, I presume that when I tried to return the ballot from
>that email adress I was told that there were 'irregular symbols' or
>something similar in it and that the ballot could not be sent. I can
>try and resend the email (again) to ascertain more detailed
>information about the rejection message if anyone is interested.

The actual rejection message would definitely be of interest. It will
likely shed some light on *where* the message is being rejected.

The mail server you are using to send email and the name of your mail
client could possibly be useful.

One question that might also be usefully answered is: is the rejection
notice coming from your email client or is it a separate email saying
that your email has bounced?

UKV would definitely be interested and you can contact the VT here:
Votetaker: Barry Salter <com2k09-queries (at) ukvotes.southie.me.uk>

Follow-Up set to unnm only.
--
Pedt
Member of, but not speaking for, UKV.

[jms]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:10:44 +0000, Cherry Chapstick
<az...@invalid.really.really> wrote:

<snip>

>I will be voting from the kororaa domain (if that's allowed - more
>sinister than greenend, perhaps) - I was previously voting from fsnet
>co uk, if this has any bearing on the matter. I think it is important
>that I bring this to the attention of the committee, anyway.

For the purposes of voting - just register a Hotmail account and vote
from there. I have successfully voted from mine.

(You will of course nor be able to email anyone at chiark or the URCM
moderators from that account - but that is a different matter)

[Jon Ribbens]

On 2009-10-30, Cherry Chapstick <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote:
> This is why, I presume that when I tried to return the ballot from
> that email adress I was told that there were 'irregular symbols' or
> something similar in it and that the ballot could not be sent. I can
> try and resend the email (again) to ascertain more detailed
> information about the rejection message if anyone is interested.

I maintain the server which hosts the voting system (and I am
secondary votetaker for the vote), and I am most certainly interested.

I can't think of any way in which something our end would say anything
about "irregular symbols" though.

Could you please forward the entire of (including headers) any bounce
message you have received to me please. The From address of this post
works.

If you have received an error message from your software, as opposed
to a bounce, then it is a problem with your system or your ISP. In
which case, if you forward the exact error message (and what software
you're using) I may be able to help but I can't guarantee it.

[Fevric J. Glandules]

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:10:44 +0000, Cherry Chapstick
> <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote:
>

>>Now, this email address was compromised some years ago - it is not on
>>a 'reliable' domain (it is on a domain similar to hotmail), and was
>>used as the source of spam.
>

> Aside: your email address can be used as the source of spam without it
> being compromised. Header forgery is routine in spammers, and malware
> will commonly pick a random address form someone's address book to use
> as the purported sender of malicious or spam messages.

ITYF Cherry understands this stuff.

[Steve Firth]

Cherry Chapstick <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote:

> I am absolutely certain that at least one of those nominees will bring a
> fresher, more modern outlook to usenet should he be elected;

Of course you are. And the fact that each one of them has proved to be a
loony doesn't detract from their abilities. Nor does their acting like a
bunch of complete tossers.

[Mike Tomlinson]

In article <hvdme5t7matrusv5r...@4ax.com>, Cherry
Chapstick <az...@invalid.really.really> writes

>I bring this to the attention of the committe, because there is a
>(faint) possibility that some potential voters may be disenfranchised
>by blocks on their email addresses when they try to return ballots.

If you could be bothered to read the extensive, clearly written
instructions included with your ballot, you will discover that if your
vote is accepted, you will receive an email saying so.

So your worries of disenfranchisation are foundless.

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