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Ian

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Feb 7, 2002, 6:03:38 PM2/7/02
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.... At least it was to me!
I recently heard an interview with a lady(?)on PBR, who'd just
brought out a biography of the late Dusty Springfield.
It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian .... was this
commonly known, or was I the only one in the Sixties tin blissful ignorance?
She was also said to have been subject to black bouts of severe
depression, and given to self-mutilation.
I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.
--
Ian a Limey now resident in Ft Worth, TX, USA

Gary Jackson

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Feb 7, 2002, 6:37:21 PM2/7/02
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The message <20020207....@flash.net>
from su...@flash.net (Ian) contains these words:

Old news I'm afraid.

Gary

Chas Wood

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Feb 7, 2002, 6:40:12 PM2/7/02
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For what it's worth, yes, it was common knowledge.
I remember being told in 1967, after she'd done an appearance in
Newcastle-on-Tyne, that she'd made a pretty determined play for a waitress
at one of the local clubs. It may even have been at the student union, as
the guy who told me was at the uni at that time.
Big shock to yours truly, being brought up in a small, provincial town, with
morals and mores to match. Ironically, I'd regarded her as a real sex-icon
up to that point.
But what the hell, she was a brilliant singer and nowadays no one gives much
of a shit about a person's sexual preferences.

As for the bouts of black depression - that don't seem too unusual in the
upper echelons of the music biz.

Chas

Ian <su...@flash.net> wrote in message news:20020207....@flash.net...

Jay Paine

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Feb 7, 2002, 7:54:09 PM2/7/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020207....@flash.net>...

>It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian .... was this
>commonly known, or was I the only one in the Sixties tin blissful
ignorance?

The only one. This "shocking news" has been fairly well-known for only about
30 years.

>She was also said to have been subject to black bouts of severe
>depression, and given to self-mutilation.

Yes, but what's so shocking about depression?

>I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.

What with? Depression? I'm shocked!

>--
>Ian a Limey now resident in Ft Worth, TX,
USA

Jay, a Yankee now resident in London, UK

Loremaster

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Feb 7, 2002, 8:12:57 PM2/7/02
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I recall in the early 70's my ex brother-in-law being an ambulance driver
and reporting to me that Dusty had been taken to a local psychiatric
hospital suffering from depression. I seem to recall her sexuality was a
common talking point at the time, as was the stand-up tussle she had on
stage with Buddy Rich although I can't for the life of me remember the
details - he had a pretty dry humour and acid tongue, however, and as I
recall he wasn't exactly respectful to her. Nevertheless, she had a great
voice, and in terms of the later coming together of pop, blues and jazz was
undoubtedly ahead of her time.

My brother and I always referred to her as "Spristy Dungfield" :).

Loremaster

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Molly

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Feb 7, 2002, 8:04:04 PM2/7/02
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, in article <20020207....@flash.net>, Ian (Ian
<su...@flash.net>) wrote

>.... At least it was to me!
>I recently heard an interview with a lady(?)on PBR, who'd just
>brought out a biography of the late Dusty Springfield.
>It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian .... was this
>commonly known, or was I the only one in the Sixties tin blissful ignorance?

Yes, common knowledge. I spent a year in Hampstead from (IIRC) 1964-65,
and Dusty Springfield lived with Madeleine Bell (an excellent singer) in
a mews cottage up the road. They could be seen walking around holding
hands. As far as I can see, Dusty made no attempt to conceal her
sexuality, even though she didn't shout it from the rooftops either.
--
Molly
Spammers are like tapeworms: they leech the life from the Internet and
provide nothing of benefit in return. (Patricia A. Shaffer)

Brian Watson

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:04:16 AM2/8/02
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"Ian" <su...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:20020207....@flash.net...
> .... At least it was to me!
> I recently heard an interview with a lady(?)on PBR, who'd just
> brought out a biography of the late Dusty Springfield.
> It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian .... was this
> commonly known, or was I the only one in the Sixties tin blissful
ignorance?

There was a live radio show in the UK (late 60s) wherein the bubbly, poppy,
presenter would get into the audience and mingle with the plebs, asking
various of them whether they had any questions to ask about the "fab world
of pop music."

On one memorable occasion, the question asked by the eager fan faced with a
moment of fleeting fame was, "Is Dusty Springfield really a lesbian?"

Cue fast cut to the music.....

:-)

On the subject of whether the most soulful female singer of the latter part
of the century was a muff-diver, who cares?
--
Brian


nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk

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Feb 8, 2002, 5:06:06 AM2/8/02
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Leave orffff !!!

Youll be telling us all that Elton John is gay next !!!!!!

Bill Blades

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Feb 8, 2002, 7:55:40 AM2/8/02
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yes it was common knowledge in Lancashire U.K.


Wilfried Gutekunst

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Feb 8, 2002, 9:01:37 AM2/8/02
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"Brian Watson" <br...@spheroid.demon.co.uk>

> On the subject of whether the most soulful female singer
> of the latter part of the century was a muff-diver, who cares?

Yes, it doesn't matter *nothing* !

Nor does it concerning *Melissa Etheridge*
(not 60ies, I know!),
who is my favourite rock lady nowadays.
She is best in her /anarchic/ live performing :)

Wilfried G.


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yeah!

3Spartels

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Feb 8, 2002, 1:19:51 PM2/8/02
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Chas Wood <charl...@lineone.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
3c631...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...

> For what it's worth, yes, it was common knowledge.
> Big shock to yours truly, being brought up in a small, provincial town,
with
> morals and mores to match. Ironically, I'd regarded her as a real sex-icon
> up to that point.

I didn't take this message seriously, untill your reaction. We call this
Tabloid-news and use it as toiletpaper. Are we that much tolerant in
Holland, that accept these things as normal? Main thing to me is she had a
wonderfull voice and I liked her music very well. What's the buzz about her
own life.

> But what the hell, she was a brilliant singer and nowadays no one gives
much
> of a shit about a person's sexual preferences.

I agree very much!

> As for the bouts of black depression - that don't seem too unusual in the
> upper echelons of the music biz.

Depression is just a little bit pity. No more than that.

Dries(in the free world worldcitizen)


Molly

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:01:02 PM2/8/02
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, in article <1013159933.17378.15.nnrp-
01.9e...@news.demon.co.uk>, Brian Watson (Brian Watson
<br...@spheroid.demon.co.uk>) wrote

>
>There was a live radio show in the UK (late 60s) wherein the bubbly, poppy,
>presenter would get into the audience and mingle with the plebs, asking
>various of them whether they had any questions to ask about the "fab world
>of pop music."
>
>On one memorable occasion, the question asked by the eager fan faced with a
>moment of fleeting fame was, "Is Dusty Springfield really a lesbian?"

I don't remember that, but I do remember an early-evening TV programme
where the youthful audience could question the guest stars, and Dusty
Springfield was given a hard time with "Why aren't you married?" "Have
you got a boyfriend?" and so forth. She handled the situation with
considerable dignity, IIRC.

Molly

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:02:36 PM2/8/02
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, in article <hf576u8g00d7mt1vdn9pvdn9vui5eknurd@4ax.c
om>, (nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk) wrote

>On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 23:03:38 GMT, su...@flash.net (Ian) wrote:
>
>>I recently heard an interview with a lady(?)on PBR, who'd just
>>brought out a biography of the late Dusty Springfield.
>>It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian ....

>>I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.


>
>Leave orffff !!!
>
>Youll be telling us all that Elton John is gay next !!!!!!
>

Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
Bar...
:-)

Chas Wood

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:29:59 PM2/8/02
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I seem to recall her sexuality was a
common talking point at the time, as was the stand-up tussle she had on
stage with Buddy Rich although I can't for the life of me remember the
details - he had a pretty dry humour and acid tongue, however, and as I
recall he wasn't exactly respectful to her.
Loremaster <lorem...@spam.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:pBF88.3482$YA2.5...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net...


Dusty appeared on Ready, Steady, Go, shortly after this incident. I can
clearly recall her telling the interviewer (Fordyce, I think) that she had
knocked Rich's toupee off with a right hook. Didn't explain what he'd said,
or done, to provoke the bounce-up though.

Chas


Martin Dixon

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:16:15 PM2/8/02
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In article <pBF88.3482$YA2.5...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, Loremaster
<URL:mailto:lorem...@spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
> My brother and I always referred to her as "Spristy Dungfield" :).

Kenny Everett used to call her "Rusty Springboard".

--
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Chas Wood

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Feb 8, 2002, 5:51:58 PM2/8/02
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Martin Dixon <martin...@diamond.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ant082115313hB%w...@martin.dixon.diamond.co.uk...

> In article <pBF88.3482$YA2.5...@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, Loremaster
> <URL:mailto:lorem...@spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > My brother and I always referred to her as "Spristy Dungfield" :).
>
> Kenny Everett used to call her "Rusty Springboard".

Yeah, that was round about the time Burly Chassis was singing "Kiss me
honey, honey, kiss me".

Chas

pushbutton

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Feb 8, 2002, 5:54:45 PM2/8/02
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> Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> Bar...

Oh yes we have.

A packet of crisps and a Marianne Faithful bar please.

Derek

A product before, during and after the 60's


Jay Paine

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Feb 8, 2002, 7:24:57 PM2/8/02
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Molly wrote in message ...

>On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, in article
>>
>Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>Bar...
>:-)

Gee Whizz! That sounds *interesting* Molly! Is it, like, shocking or
something? Do tell! Cuz I must be the only guy in the solar system who
doesn't have a clue what you're talking about ;-)

Jay

PS Don't tell Marianne, but I never liked Mars Bars. I always preferred
Almond Joy.

Jay Paine

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Feb 8, 2002, 7:26:55 PM2/8/02
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pushbutton wrote in message ...

>
>> Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>> Bar...
>
>Oh yes we have.
>
>A packet of crisps and a Marianne Faithful bar please.


Make that a double!

Jay

a product of careless parents


Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:26 AM2/9/02
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smiling sweetly, nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk wrote,:

>: om>, (nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk) wrote
>: >
>: >Leave orffff !!!


>: >
>: >Youll be telling us all that Elton John is gay next !!!!!!
>: >
>: Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>: Bar...
>: :-)

What? that nice little Marianne F.? You don't mean she was a
chocaholic? Go on, tell me, tell ne!

--
Ian Ft Worth, TX, USA

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:27 AM2/9/02
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Perspiring with excitement, charl...@lineone.net wrote:

>: > Kenny Everett used to call her "Rusty Springboard".
>:
I've heard this everrett chap was .... well, not to put too fine a
point on it, a homosexual.
Does anyone know if there was anytruthin this?

>: Yeah, that was round about the time Burly Chassis was singing "Kiss me


>: honey, honey, kiss me".

>:
Disgusting. These filthy records should be banned off the wireless,
in my opinion.
>: Chas

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:22 AM2/9/02
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gary.j...@zetnet.co.uk wrote succinctly:

>: from su...@flash.net (Ian) contains these words:

>:
>: > .... At least it was to me!

...
>: > I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.


>:
>: Old news I'm afraid.
>:
>: Gary

Old but useful as a test message ...
After I'd requested this n/group be added to prodigy's list, I found
that although articles d/loaded, none of my 3 or 4 earlier
messages showed up.
Got them to fix the mistake, and I see that quite a few ageing
Mods have done followups (and incidentally provided me with a
chuckle or two!.

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:24 AM2/9/02
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nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk wrote perspicaciously:

>: On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 23:03:38 GMT, su...@flash.net (Ian) wrote:
>: ....

>: >It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian .... was this
>:
>: Leave orffff !!!


>:
>: Youll be telling us all that Elton John is gay next !!!!!!

>:
(sharp intake of breath) He's not, is he? Actually, just between you
and me and the keyboard, I've heard rumors
recently about freddie Mercury, too... makes you fink, dunnit?

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:25 AM2/9/02
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pushing aside his plate of tripe and onions,
gwbl...@bb50hg68.fsnet.co.uk burped and wrote:

>: yes it was common knowledge in Lancashire U.K.
>:
Ah, well, don't they say, What Manchester thinks today, the world thinks
tomorrow?

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 2:31:23 AM2/9/02
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jayp...@lyndalls.globalnet.co.uk took me to one side and confided:

>: Ian wrote in message <20020207....@flash.net>...
>:
>: >commonly known, or was I the only one in the Sixties tin blissful


>: ignorance?
>:
>: The only one. This "shocking news" has been fairly well-known for only about
>: 30 years.

>:
Would you believe I've just completed a 32 year stretch for
skinhead-bashing. Lots to catch up on.
(what happened to that nice mrs Thatcher, d'you know?)

>: >depression, and given to self-mutilation.


>:
>: Yes, but what's so shocking about depression?

>:
They tell me it's no laughing matter...
>: >I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.


>:
>: What with? Depression? I'm shocked!

>:
No, no, a hot water bottle, a good romance novel, and a hot cup of cocoa.

>: >Ian a Limey now resident in Ft Worth, TX,
>:
>: Jay, a Yankee now resident in London, UK
>:
Really? I'd say the States got the better end of that swap,
wouldn't you!

Molly

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Feb 9, 2002, 4:24:41 AM2/9/02
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, in article <u68r26k...@corp.supernews.com>, Jay
Paine (Jay Paine <jayp...@lyndalls.globalnet.co.uk>) wrote

>PS Don't tell Marianne, but I never liked Mars Bars. I always preferred
>Almond Joy.

Is this anything to do with Mark Almond?

Brian Watson

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Feb 9, 2002, 4:24:16 AM2/9/02
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"Ian" <su...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:20020209....@flash.net...

> Perspiring with excitement, charl...@lineone.net wrote:
>
> >: > Kenny Everett used to call her "Rusty Springboard".
> >:
> I've heard this everrett chap was .... well, not to put too fine a
> point on it, a homosexual.
> Does anyone know if there was anytruthin this?

He was, indeed, a homosexualist and used to wear a rather curious little
beard in an discreet attempt to declare this to the secret underground world
of gaydom that exists outside the entertainment business.

> >: Yeah, that was round about the time Burly Chassis was singing "Kiss me
> >: honey, honey, kiss me".
> >:
> Disgusting. These filthy records should be banned off the wireless,
> in my opinion.

And put back on the turntables where they belong.

:-)

--
Brian


Brian Watson

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Feb 9, 2002, 4:18:42 AM2/9/02
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"Molly" <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:th2AtDCc...@clara.net...

> Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> Bar...

I have, from the lady herself, and I believe the story of her being found,
ahem, "pleasuring herself" with a Mars Bar was the figment of a tabloid
journalist's imagination.

She said that she and Mick, and Keith and someone else (poss Anita
Pallenberg, I can't remember), had all collapsed into one bed after a gig to
watch television.

While there, just four chums too knackered for sex, they were pigging choccy
bars of all sorts and dumping the wrappers on and around the bed.

Suddenly, there's a knock at the door - Keith let's them in - and (blow me
down with a policeman's truncheon) it's the boys in blue with a search
warrant and a small posse of newspaper reporters in tow. Now how did that
happen, I wonder?

Her version of the story is very credible as being part of an attempt to
thoroughly discredit those naughty, naughty, boys who were plainly
determined to destroy the world as we know it at the time.
--
Brian


Brian Watson

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Feb 9, 2002, 4:25:15 AM2/9/02
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"Ian" <su...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:20020209....@flash.net...

> I see that quite a few ageing


> Mods have done followups (and incidentally provided me with a
> chuckle or two!.

Aging? AGING!?!?

--
Brian


E.B.Clucher

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Feb 9, 2002, 6:31:49 AM2/9/02
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In article <aQN0zIAZ...@clara.net>,
Molly <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, in article <u68r26k...@corp.supernews.com>, Jay
> Paine (Jay Paine <jayp...@lyndalls.globalnet.co.uk>) wrote
>
> >PS Don't tell Marianne, but I never liked Mars Bars. I always preferred
> >Almond Joy.
>
> Is this anything to do with Mark Almond?
> :-)

and the story about him collapsing after 'drinking' 2 pints of something?

E.B.Clucher

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Feb 9, 2002, 6:34:14 AM2/9/02
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In article <1013249669.25463....@news.demon.co.uk>,
"Brian Watson" <br...@spheroid.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> "Molly" <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:th2AtDCc...@clara.net...
>
> > Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> > Bar...
>
>

> Her version of the story is very credible as being part of an attempt to
> thoroughly discredit those naughty, naughty, boys who were plainly
> determined to destroy the world as we know it at the time.
> --


but were they fun size mars bars or king size?

Chas Wood

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:14:32 AM2/9/02
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about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> > Bar...
>
> I have, from the lady herself, and I believe the story of her being found,
> ahem, "pleasuring herself" with a Mars Bar was the figment of a tabloid
> journalist's imagination.
>
> --
> Brian

If Brian's discussed this with The Girl on a Motorcycle, then I'm hardly in
a position to contradict him. The story that did the rounds at the time,
however, was that the chocolate bar in question was actually being devoured,
in situ, by M. Jagger Esq.
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

Chas


3Spartels

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:11:34 AM2/9/02
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Ian <su...@flash.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
20020209....@flash.net...

> jayp...@lyndalls.globalnet.co.uk took me to one side and confided:

> (what happened to that nice mrs Thatcher, d'you know?)

Whe I read your message I thought this could be a member of the Conservatif
Party. Do you answer this in affirmative?

> No, no, a good romance novel.

I don't think George Bush didn't ever read a novel.

> >: Jay, a Yankee now resident in London, UK
> >:
> Really? I'd say the States got the better end of that swap,
> wouldn't you!

Be humble as an American, that's the best way to be accept by the 5 Billion
other people in the world.

Dries


3Spartels

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:13:57 AM2/9/02
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Chas Wood <charl...@lineone.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
3c643...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...

> Dusty appeared on Ready, Steady, Go, shortly after this incident. I can
> clearly recall her telling the interviewer (Fordyce, I think) that she had
> knocked Rich's toupee off with a right hook. Didn't explain what he'd
said,
> or done, to provoke the bounce-up though.

That's the only way to stop sucha person.

Dries


3Spartels

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:19:54 AM2/9/02
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Molly <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
th2AtDCc...@clara.net...

> Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> Bar...

Don't!! I like THE MUSIC of Dusty and Marianne Faithful, also Elton John in
his early days very much. Let it be. It's does'n matter to me or they were
gay, lesbian or even had a beard or wear glasses. ;-)

Dries


3Spartels

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:22:09 AM2/9/02
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pushbutton <iam...@home.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
a41l07$1afpp3$1...@ID-118227.news.dfncis.de...

>
> > Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
> > Bar...
>
> Oh yes we have.
>
> A packet of crisps and a Marianne Faithful bar please.

This smells like Coronation Street. UUUGH!

Dries


Rainbow Chaser

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Feb 9, 2002, 11:46:55 AM2/9/02
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> For what it's worth, yes, it was common knowledge.
> I remember being told in 1967, after she'd done an appearance in
> Newcastle-on-Tyne, that she'd made a pretty determined play for a waitress
> at one of the local clubs. It may even have been at the student union, as
> the guy who told me was at the uni at that time.
> Big shock to yours truly, being brought up in a small, provincial town,
with
> morals and mores to match. Ironically, I'd regarded her as a real sex-icon
> up to that point.
> But what the hell, she was a brilliant singer and nowadays no one gives
much
> of a shit about a person's sexual preferences.
>
It must have been quite a night in Newcastle, I heard she visited the long
lost
record shop in Prudhoe Street, and made a great impression.

R.C.


Martin Dixon

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Feb 9, 2002, 12:56:06 PM2/9/02
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In article <20020209....@flash.net>, Ian

<URL:mailto:su...@flash.net> wrote:
> Perspiring with excitement, charl...@lineone.net wrote:
>
> >: > Kenny Everett used to call her "Rusty Springboard".
> >:
> I've heard this everrett chap was .... well, not to put too fine a
> point on it, a homosexual.
> Does anyone know if there was anytruthin this?

Yer. Do yer know, they say the same about Pete Tchiakovsky too. I don't
believe a word of it.

>
> > : Yeah, that was round about the time Burly Chassis was singing "Kiss me
> > : honey, honey, kiss me". :
> Disgusting. These filthy records should be banned off the wireless,
> in my opinion.
> >: Chas

Yer, yer mean like than Donegan bloke. Sang about dustbins, can't get
filthier than that. A load of rubbish innit!

nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:21:28 AM2/9/02
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:02:36 +0000, Molly
<nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, in article <hf576u8g00d7mt1vdn9pvdn9vui5eknurd@4ax.c
>om>, (nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk) wrote


>>On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 23:03:38 GMT, su...@flash.net (Ian) wrote:
>>

>>>I recently heard an interview with a lady(?)on PBR, who'd just
>>>brought out a biography of the late Dusty Springfield.


>>>It was revealed that the singer had been a lesbian ....
>

>>>I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.
>>

>>Leave orffff !!!
>>
>>Youll be telling us all that Elton John is gay next !!!!!!
>>

>Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>Bar...

>:-)

I HATE fishy Mars bars

Chas Wood

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:34:03 PM2/9/02
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Ian <su...@flash.net> from Ft Worth, TX, USA, pushed back his Stetson,
swept his Enron share certificates into the trashcan and giggled "I see that

quite a few ageing Mods have done followups (and incidentally provided me
with a chuckle or two!)."

Hey, man, I'm, like, flattered! Ageing Mod? Jeez, I was an ageing Mod twenty
years ago. I'm now head honcho of the geriatrics' branch of Nostalgia Inc
(Berkshire Chapter) - not so much a silver surfer as a
bald-as-a-billiard-ball surfer.
Anyway, you certainly kicked-off a lengthy thread. with your cunningly
disguised piss-take. And there's me thinking that Americans (or expert
limeys) don't do post-modern irony.

Chas


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:36:43 PM2/9/02
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Brian Watson wrote in message
<1013249676.25463....@news.demon.co.uk>...

Mod? MODDD!?!?!?!

Jjjjjjay
>


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:40:48 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209....@flash.net>...

>(what happened to that nice mrs Thatcher, d'you know?)

She went away. Crying.


>
>>: >depression, and given to self-mutilation.
>>:
>>: Yes, but what's so shocking about depression?
>>:
>They tell me it's no laughing matter...
>>: >I'm feeling quite disenchanted and may well take to me bed for a while.
>>:
>>: What with? Depression? I'm shocked!
>>:
>No, no, a hot water bottle, a good romance novel, and a hot cup of cocoa.

Make sure it's only cocoa in your cup.


>
>>: >Ian a Limey now resident in Ft Worth,
TX,
>>:
>>: Jay, a Yankee now resident in London, UK
>>:
>Really?

Yes really

I'd say the States got the better end of that swap,
>wouldn't you!

You *would* say that, wouldn't ya mate?

Jay, Saff London

Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 5:46:21 PM2/9/02
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Molly wrote in message ...
>On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, in article <u68r26k...@corp.supernews.com>, Jay
>Paine (Jay Paine <jayp...@lyndalls.globalnet.co.uk>) wrote
>
>>PS Don't tell Marianne, but I never liked Mars Bars. I always preferred
>>Almond Joy.
>
>Is this anything to do with Mark Almond?

Well, tainted love is better than none. I suppose. Sweetie.


>:-)
>--
>Molly
>Spammers are like tapeworms: they leech the life from the Internet and
>provide nothing of benefit in return. (

Politicians are like tapeworms. They make me sick, and they're hard to
remove.

Jay Paine

Patricia A. Shaffer)


Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:35 PM2/9/02
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clenching his buttocks fiercely in suppressed fury,
br...@spheroid.demon.co.uk wrote:

>: "Ian" <su...@flash.net> wrote in message
>: > I see that quite a few ageing


>: > Mods have done followups (and incidentally provided me with a
>: > chuckle or two!.
>:
>: Aging? AGING!?!?

Well, let's face it, mate, since most of us Rockers were in our late
teens and early twenties in about 1963, and battling Mods of
roughly the same age, and since you all in here have an impressive
knowledge of Sixties music, and since most Mods were into music in
them days, and since that was forty years back, I have to deduce
that most of the inmates in here are ex-Mods, and well advanced into
senility ...

--
Ian Ft Worth, TX, USA

complete with all his own dentures and an incipient bald spot to match...

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:30 PM2/9/02
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trembling slightly, charl...@lineone.net wrote:

>: about Marianne Faithful
....
>: > Brian


>:
>: If Brian's discussed this with The Girl on a Motorcycle, then I'm hardly in
>: a position to contradict him. The story that did the rounds at the time,
>: however, was that the chocolate bar in question was actually being devoured,
>: in situ, by M. Jagger Esq.
>: Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
>:
>: Chas

And, did you notice, it was always related to you by someone who
was a cousin/brother/son
of one of the cops who busted in the door ...

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:29 PM2/9/02
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Bridling, bart...@home.nl wrote:

>: Ian <su...@flash.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
>: > (what happened to that nice mrs Thatcher, d'you know?)
>:
>: When I read your message I thought this could be a member of the Conservatif


>: Party. Do you answer this in affirmative?

>:
ummmm ... I might have done in the mid-Fifties, early Sixtiess, but
after Wislon, Heath, and Major ("When you're back is to the wall,
the only thing you can do is turn round and fight"), I got kinda
disillusioned about politicians and political parties.

>: > No, no, a good romance novel.


>: I don't think George Bush didn't ever read a novel.
>:

You mean he can read??? Bloody hell....

>: > Really? I'd say the States got the better end of that swap,
>:
>: Be humble as an American, that's the best way to be accept by the 5 Billion


>: other people in the world.

>:
Strictly speaking, I'm not allowed to be a n American citizen for
two and a half years yet, at present my status is Resident Alien
... shades of mid Fifties movies like It Came From Outer Space,
Invasion of the Boddysnattchers, and I Married a Monster From Outer
Space... by God, they don't make movies like that any more!
>: Dries

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:28 PM2/9/02
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By now almost in tears, bart...@home.nl pleaded

>: Molly <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
>:
>: > Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars


>: > Bar...
>: Don't!! I like THE MUSIC of Dusty and Marianne Faithful, also Elton John in
>: his early days very much. Let it be. It's does'n matter to me or they were
>: gay, lesbian or even had a beard or wear glasses. ;-)
>:
>: Dries

>:
Quite right, young man. This is a painful subject to many of us in
here, an should be stopped at once.
I myself openly wear glasses, amd am not ashamed of it. Indeed , I am
proud of my glasses-wearing tendencies and flaunt them at every
opportunity.

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:31 PM2/9/02
to
I was shocked to find thatbuccaneer@DELETE_THISterra.com witten had
written:

>: "Brian Watson" <br...@spheroid.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>: > "Molly" <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> wrote in message

>: > > Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>: > > Bar...
...
>: but were they fun size mars bars or king size?
>:
Is there a gynaecologist in the house?
Second question: how do you spell gynaecologist?

Ian

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Feb 9, 2002, 8:42:36 PM2/9/02
to

I've often speculated, how the group Georgie Fame and the blue Flames
got that name?
did anyone ever get wind of the reason, I wonder.


--
Ian Ft Worth, TX, USA

"Heinz Meanz Beanz" (Sixties TV advertising slogan)

Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:26:37 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...

... by God, they don't make movies like that any more!


They *do*. But we know who *they* are now, and we know better than to watch
*their* silly flicks.

This is one advantage of senility. It prevents any application post-modern
ironic veiwing. Saves time. Of which, there is always less, and less, these
days.

Jay


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:27:43 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...

>Second question: how do you spell gynaecologist?


With a dictionary.

Jay


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:28:54 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...

>And, did you notice, it was always related to you by someone who


>was a cousin/brother/son
>of one of the cops who busted in the door ...

No.

Jay

Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:32:33 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...
Indeed , I am
>proud of my glasses-wearing tendencies and flaunt them at every
>opportunity.


What? Ian, could you please speak up? I didn't quite hear what you wrote.

Jay from London, with an archeaological record of over 15,000 years of
*continuous human habiation*. Pal.


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:50:19 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...

>I've often speculated,

what, with your glasses on? Or off.

how the group Georgie Fame and the blue Flames
>got that name?
>did anyone ever get wind of the reason, I wonder.

Yes Ian, I get your drift. The explanation is quite simple really. But I
just can't remember what it is.....

Oh yes! In 1964, Mitch Mitchell, drummer with Georgie, had a dream which
landed him in May 1968. There, he heard M Jagger singing about a gaz gaz
gaz, white light etc and awakened from dream clasping said moniker to his
memory. He offered the name Blue Flames to Georgie, as an homage to le gaz
et le Jagger. The rest is misery.

Strange as it seems, Mitch went on to drum for Jimi Hendrix. Why strange?
Well in 1966 Jimi Hendrix was fronting his own group Jimmy James and the
Blue Flames. True! What a gaz!

Ruth is Stranger Than Richard! Where *is* Robert Wyatt?


>"Heinz [snip]

Yes, he was good. Bass for the Tornados. Made tastey sandwiches for Joe Meek
as well. Now? Dead. RIP

Jay again. Sorry.


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:51:20 PM2/9/02
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E.B.Clucher wrote in message
<1013254454.15689....@news.demon.co.uk>...

>> Her version of the story is very credible as being part of an attempt to
>> thoroughly discredit those naughty, naughty, boys who were plainly
>> determined to destroy the world as we know it at the time.

How on earth this this *story* discredit her or The Stones? It only
indicated what good taste they all had.


>but were they fun size mars bars or king size?

King size, *of course*!

Jay "The Candy Man"


Jay Paine

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Feb 9, 2002, 10:54:13 PM2/9/02
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Ian wrote in message <20020209.1...@flash.net>...
I have to deduce
>that most of the inmates in here are ex-Mods, and well advanced into
>senility ...

You see Ian, that's a prime example of why the use of deduction is a
dangerous activity. It should only be used by full-lisenced practitioners.

Myself? I'm an aging, snotty, lower middle class proto US garage-band punk
granddad. Sonny boy.


>--
>Ian Ft Worth, TX, USA
>complete with all his own dentures and an incipient bald spot to match...

Jay
incomplete with, partial denture and full head of hair.


3Spartels

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Feb 10, 2002, 8:43:36 AM2/10/02
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Ian <su...@flash.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
20020209.1...@flash.net...

> By now almost in tears, bart...@home.nl pleaded
>
> >: Molly <nos...@mockfords.clara.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
> >:
> >: > Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the
Mars
> >: > Bar...
> >: Don't!! I like THE MUSIC of Dusty and Marianne Faithful, also Elton
John in
> >: his early days very much. Let it be. It's does'n matter to me or they
were
> >: gay, lesbian or even had a beard or wear glasses. ;-)
> >:
> >: Dries
> >:
> Quite right, young man. This is a painful subject to many of us in
> here, an should be stopped at once.

Yessir!

> I myself openly wear glasses, amd am not ashamed of it. Indeed , I am
> proud of my glasses-wearing tendencies and flaunt them at every
> opportunity.

This is the right correlation to my ironical remarke. This is the way to
response to eachother and after you've did get back to normal. People are
people and it does'n matter if you are white, black, yellow, blue, green or
muddy and even wear glasses or have a beard like I and Dusty Springfield
do. Or didn't she wear a beard? ;-)

Dries


Dave Hillam

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Feb 10, 2002, 5:35:22 PM2/10/02
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Molly wrote in uk.music.sixties on Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:02:36 +0000
MID<th2AtDCc...@clara.net>:

>Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>Bar...

>:-)

Pah. Unsubstantiated rumour-mongering.

It was a Twix.

--
Dave Hillam

the "reply-to" address is valid,
but please keep replies in the group

b.kitching

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Feb 10, 2002, 7:02:29 PM2/10/02
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Is Boy George a puff? Or was it girl George?

"Ian" <su...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:20020209....@flash.net...
> pushing aside his plate of tripe and onions,
> gwbl...@bb50hg68.fsnet.co.uk burped and wrote:
>
> >: yes it was common knowledge in Lancashire U.K.
> >:
> Ah, well, don't they say, What Manchester thinks today, the world thinks
> tomorrow?

Mike Mooney

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Feb 11, 2002, 3:24:32 AM2/11/02
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Ian wrote:

>
>I have to deduce
> that most of the inmates in here are ex-Mods, and well advanced into
> senility ...
>

I was too young to be a mod, too scared to be a hippy and too old to be
a punk!

:~)

Mike

Mike Mooney

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Feb 11, 2002, 3:26:20 AM2/11/02
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Jay Paine wrote:

>
> >but were they fun size mars bars or king size?
>
> King size, *of course*!
>

Tsk. Any fule kno that there were no kingsize (or 'fun size') Mars Bars
in those days.

Mike

Jay Paine

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Feb 11, 2002, 9:45:39 AM2/11/02
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Mike Mooney wrote in message <3C67802C...@bradford.ac.uk>...

>Tsk. Any fule kno that there were no kingsize (or 'fun size') Mars Bars
>in those days.
>
>Mike

Very true sir. But then again, I'm not just *any* fule.

In those days, *any* Mars Bar was a King size, and much fun as well.
Especially one worn so elegantly by Queen Marianne.

Jay The Confectioner


pushbutton

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Feb 11, 2002, 6:18:52 PM2/11/02
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Open wide and say 'Ahh'

nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk

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Feb 12, 2002, 3:13:23 AM2/12/02
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:35:22 +0000, Dave Hillam
<postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>Molly wrote in uk.music.sixties on Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:02:36 +0000
>MID<th2AtDCc...@clara.net>:
>
>>Now, I bet none of you have heard about Marianne Faithful and the Mars
>>Bar...
>>:-)
>
>Pah. Unsubstantiated rumour-mongering.
>
>It was a Twix.

Sideways ???


nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk

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Feb 12, 2002, 3:13:22 AM2/12/02
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Correct but was it my imagination or were Mars basr bigger then ??
I used to have a Jubbly every day too


Martin Dixon

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Feb 11, 2002, 2:49:23 PM2/11/02
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In article <3C677FC0...@bradford.ac.uk>, Mike Mooney

You must have been a skinhead then! Or a greaser!

--
Martin Dixon, Leicester, England. email martin...@diamond.co.uk
Created on: Acorn 420/1, 33MHz ARM3, RISCOS 3.1 Running ANT Internet Suite.
Wintel free - Millennium compliant.
--

Dave Hillam

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Feb 12, 2002, 5:11:21 PM2/12/02
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nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk wrote in uk.music.sixties on Tue, 12 Feb
2002 08:13:23 +0000 MID<di3f6uc9vuv15lcb4...@4ax.com>:

Now you're just being silly.
For starters, how would you get the wrapper off. ;-)

Jay Paine

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Feb 12, 2002, 7:02:53 PM2/12/02
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nib...@akbs.fslife.co.uk wrote in message ...

>Correct but was it my imagination or were Mars basr bigger then ??
>I used to have a Jubbly every day too

Yes! True! Not your imagination. They were actually *bigger*. *Plus*, we
were smaller. Well, I was anyway.

Jay
>
>


Jay Paine

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Feb 12, 2002, 7:06:56 PM2/12/02
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Dave Hillam wrote in message ...

>Now you're just being silly.
>For starters, how would you get the wrapper off. ;-)
>

No need. Just use the whole thing. No waste.

Jay

PS. Just saw Queen Marianne on Richard and Judy this evening. Still going.
Still performing. Still ecording. Still smoking. Cigarettes, that is.


pushbutton

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Feb 12, 2002, 7:17:47 PM2/12/02
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> >Now you're just being silly.
> >For starters, how would you get the wrapper off. ;-)
> >
> No need. Just use the whole thing. No waste.....NO TASTE ;-)

Jay Paine

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Feb 12, 2002, 7:32:14 PM2/12/02
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pushbutton wrote in message ...

>
>> >
>> No need. Just use the whole thing. No waste.....NO TASTE ;-)


Yes, but Marianne supplied that. In abundance.

Jay, aka "Willy Wonka"


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