Losing it with Syrian Rue
jaffa
Hello fluff-monsters and blur bunnies!
I've heard that things have been rather fraught round here recently but I don't
want to go further back than the last 50 posts.
Looks to me like more than a few goats have been got. Ah well, I only wish I'd
seen it unfold meself. Do I sense that an uneasy equilibrium is once again in
place?
Anyway, the break from umr has done me good; it's made not going out for the
past few weeks alot easier but I have missed the cut and thrust of plur vs.
blur.
But enough shite stirring.
Since I've been off-line I smoked a substance called Syrian Rue, it's a seed
which contains a strong MAO (MonoAmine Oxidase) inhibitor, harmine(it's got a
similar beta-carboline level to the vine used in Ayahuasca). Now, when I smoked
it, I knew that it would increase the strength of my psychedelic episode but I
didn't know much else.
I had a scarily full-on experience(I'll spare you the details!) on one blotter.
Later, I learned that in combination with substances containing tyramine (aged
cheese, chocolate, coffee, wine, beer, some charcuterie etc.) it can be lethal.
After my first experience I realised this was something to be taken under
controlled conditions, not handed around willy-nilly in spliffs at parties where
the results could be more serious than a 'full-on' trip. I resolved not to
indulge in this particular substance while out partying.
A few weeks later I was handed a spliff, and whilst I'm not certain, the effects
I experienced were just like the first time; far too much to deal with in a club
environment. Going from comfortably dancing away to a gibbering, smiling,
spacecadet wreck in about 5 minutes. I had not taken anything for more than
three hours. I have always taken being offered a 'spliff' at face value (naivete
or blind faith)but after this experience I thought I should warn people that
there might be something other than marijuana and tobacco in the spliff you're
handed.Probably an obvious statement for most of you, but I thought I'd mention
it anyway.
So, from now on, I'm going to be a little more selective about who I accept a
spliff from. It really fucked up the Boxing Day Munt.
If you're interested in this kind of freaky deeky, psuedotechnoshamanistic clap
trap, I found a great site called The Deoxyribonucleic Hyperdimension which
contained a fair bit of info about Syrian Rue. It can be found at:
http://www.deoxy.org/deoxy.htm
Plenty of information on a variety of subjects plus a useful search engine.
One last thing, if you don't have a prior engagement and you're in the area
don't forget to wear your your skankiest pants to:
Pants Party
Saturday 24th January
Acton/A 40 Area/Nearest Tube: North Acton
'Attractions' include:
Techtonic-Tribe of Munt-Deviance-Kinetic-Insanity-Oops!-Elemental
Pendulum-Electric Pyramid
Nice venue, £5, just for you my friend. No tourist price. Friend price.
Apparently.
Further info on the night, 0956 472040/0973 765219/0958 519966
Have a good weekend whatever or whomever it is that you do,
James
:o)
Jude
In article <6a75qg$q...@drn.zippo.com>, jaffa <?@?.?> writes
>Since I've been off-line I smoked a substance called Syrian Rue, it's a seed
>which contains a strong MAO (MonoAmine Oxidase) inhibitor, harmine(it's got a
>similar beta-carboline level to the vine used in Ayahuasca).
>Later, I learned that in combination with substances containing tyramine (aged
>cheese, chocolate, coffee, wine, beer, some charcuterie etc.) it can be lethal.
MAO inhibitor are also dangerous when taken with certain antidepressants
like Prosac (& other ssri) and MDMA !!!
I think when combined they can make your blood pressure crash through
the floor resulting in admission to the big nightclub in the sky - eeek!
Take care out there ! :)
--
Jude
" Mind & Body are purely Vehicles for Experience "
Juppy
On 22 Jan 1998 02:08:16 -0800, (jaffa) wrote:
> Hello fluff-monsters and blur bunnies!
Hi James. :)
I heard you be showing your grinning face around here again. Welcome back.
How's the foot? ;)
> I've heard that things have been rather fraught round here recently but
> I don't want to go further back than the last 50 posts.
Don't bother, it's not really worth the effort.
> Since I've been off-line I smoked a substance called Syrian Rue, it's a
[snip]
> but after this experience I thought I should warn people that
> there might be something other than marijuana and tobacco in the spliff
> you're handed. Probably an obvious statement for most of you, but I
> thought I'd mention it anyway.
I've never heard of this stuff, but the warning is noted and appreciated.
> Pants Party
> Saturday 24th January
> Acton/A 40 Area/Nearest Tube: North Acton
Hey hey hey! A club in West London? That's almost within staggering home
distance. Coolness.
John
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jaffa
In article <KM8MNkAe...@ashoo.demon.co.uk>, Jude says...
>
>In article <6a75qg$q...@drn.zippo.com>, jaffa <?@?.?> writes
>>Since I've been off-line I smoked a substance called Syrian Rue, it's a seed
>>which contains a strong MAO (MonoAmine Oxidase) inhibitor, harmine(it's got a
>>similar beta-carboline level to the vine used in Ayahuasca).
>
>>Later, I learned that in combination with substances containing tyramine (aged
>>cheese, chocolate, coffee, wine, beer, some charcuterie etc.) it can be lethal.
>
>MAO inhibitor are also dangerous when taken with certain antidepressants
>like Prosac (& other ssri) and MDMA !!!
Oops!
Thanks for mentioning that, Jude. I knew there was a reason why I was worried
about it's appearence in clubs.
>I think when combined they can make your blood pressure crash through
>the floor resulting in admission to the big nightclub in the sky - eeek!
Not what most people want.
>Take care out there ! :)
It took a shock like that to put things in perspective. Cautiousness will be my
middle name from now on.
Cheers,
James
Muntapproved
jaffa
In article <memo.19980122...@juppy.compulink.co.uk>,
jo...@shikasta.demon.co.uk says...
>
>On 22 Jan 1998 02:08:16 -0800, (jaffa) wrote:
>
>> Hello fluff-monsters and blur bunnies!
>
>Hi James. :)
How do JohnJup!!
>I heard you be showing your grinning face around here again. Welcome back.
>How's the foot? ;)
F**ked(fractured just above the little toe mid tarsal joint, 'perently. That'll
teach me to try and be a yuppie.
>> I've heard that things have been rather fraught round here recently but
>> I don't want to go further back than the last 50 posts.
>
>Don't bother, it's not really worth the effort.
Wise words. And prpbly not worth the stress it would induce in me.
>> Since I've been off-line I smoked a substance called Syrian Rue, it's a
>[snip]
>> but after this experience I thought I should warn people that
>> there might be something other than marijuana and tobacco in the spliff
>> you're handed. Probably an obvious statement for most of you, but I
>> thought I'd mention it anyway.
>
>I've never heard of this stuff, but the warning is noted and appreciated.
I jus' a guinea pig ;o)
>> Pants Party
>> Saturday 24th January
>> Acton/A 40 Area/Nearest Tube: North Acton
>
>Hey hey hey! A club in West London? That's almost within staggering home
>distance. Coolness.
West London techno events may one day draw people from as far as Dalston in the
East and Brixton in the South ;o)
Seriously though, it is nice to potentially have a venue almost on the doorstep
(1 stop on the tube!)
Hope you make it!
And anyone else, of course. Apparently, they aren't too fussy about who turns
up.;o)
ATB,
James
Jude
In article <6a9rsd$g...@drn.zippo.com>, jaffa <?@?.?> writes
>It took a shock like that to put things in perspective. Cautiousness will be my
>middle name from now on.
We've all done it :)
Stupid cow that I am, I once was taking antibiotics, had a bottle of
vino, 2 codeine tablets and a few spliffs.
I felt a bit queesy, stood up and fainted - bounced off the kitchen
door, bounced off the living room fell over the back of the sofa and
collapsed on the floor. I was out for about 20 mins -not much fun for
Tall Paul (my partner at the time)
Juppy
On 23 Jan 1998 03:55:44 -0800, (jaffa) wrote:
^^^^^
What time zone are you in, anyway, James? :)
> >I heard you be showing your grinning face around here again. Welcome
> >back. How's the foot? ;)
>
> F**ked(fractured just above the little toe mid tarsal joint, 'perently.
> That'll teach me to try and be a yuppie.
It will indeed. Incidentally, that's where "juppy" comes from, it's a
mate's corruption of "yuppy", and it kind of stuck. There you go, number
372 in a serious of spellbindingly interesting facts.
> >I've never heard of this stuff, but the warning is noted and
> appreciated.
>
> I jus' a guinea pig ;o)
Heh. :) Does that mean you shit in the same room you sleep in?
> West London techno events may one day draw people from as far as
> Dalston in the East and Brixton in the South ;o)
Can it be true?
> Seriously though, it is nice to potentially have a venue almost on the
> doorstep
> (1 stop on the tube!)
Alas, alack, the tubes don't come quite far enough for me. But still, it's
a short drive.
Juppy
On 23 Jan 1998 02:37:01 -0800, (jaffa) wrote:
> Cautiousness will be my middle name from now on.
"Caution" is easier to spell.
;)
Ben Robinson
jaffa wrote in message <6a9rsd$g...@drn.zippo.com>...
>
>It took a shock like that to put things in perspective. Cautiousness will
be my
>middle name from now on.
More like poncybuggerwhocanthackhisdrugs will be your middle name now. Same
as it was before in fact.
I think you should have given me a big public 'thankyou' on UMR for ruining
mine and Jacky's night while we looked after you and convinced you that 'not
everyone wants to tolchock you until the cows come home'.
*Tsk*
Love ya really!
Ben
PS And you know what you can do with your 'fluff-monsters' too, doncha?!! :P
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Jon
Ben Robinson wrote in message ...
>
>More like poncybuggerwhocanthackhisdrugs will be your middle name now. Same
>as it was before in fact.
>
>I think you should have given me a big public 'thankyou' on UMR for ruining
>mine and Jacky's night while we looked after you and convinced you that
'not
>everyone wants to tolchock you until the cows come home'.
>
Is this the "pooing his pants" story ?
BTW - poncybuggerwhocanthackhisdrugs hmmmm, the term "psychotic experience"
bring any memories flooding back ? pot and kettle come to mind.
Jon
jaffa
In article <887303923.17008.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, "Jon" says...
>
>Ben Robinson wrote in message ...
>
>>
>>More like poncybuggerwhocanthackhisdrugs will be your middle name now. Same
>>as it was before in fact.
>>
>>I think you should have given me a big public 'thankyou' on UMR for ruining
>>mine and Jacky's night while we looked after you and convinced you that
>'not
>>everyone wants to tolchock you until the cows come home'.
>>
>
>
>Is this the "pooing his pants" story ?
Yes. He's got over it now, though. So don't mention it.
>BTW - poncybuggerwhocanthackhisdrugs hmmmm, the term "psychotic experience"
>bring any memories flooding back ? pot and kettle come to mind.
I take it you refer to his dab of speed down the pub that turned him into a
quivering, sad, bastard convinced that he was about to die.
At least I lost it on serious shit, so to speak... ;o)
plur,
James
Jon
jaffa wrote in message <6bvect$9...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>I take it you refer to his dab of speed down the pub that turned him into a
>quivering, sad, bastard convinced that he was about to die.
No No, this was "his friend", have you asked him about "his friend".
Fluffy Jon.
Ben Robinson
Jon wrote in message
<887312322.22027.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
Fuck off 'Fluffy Jon' and 'Sad Muppet Mouth James' because I was going to
die, do you hear me?
If I want to have some sort of moronic fit in my local to liven things up a
bit then I will, and you two can just piss off and get back to whatever
nefarious deeds it is you get up to when alone. God knows.
Thank you for Understanding.
Ben