Calling all Free Party people of Wales! DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE PARTY STARTS?
ben
Right hopefully your the right person..... Boy oh boy do we need some
help! Myself and my mate are originally from the Bristol & Bath area
and we have recently moved to Tywyn on the west coast.
We are in desperate need of Śa reliableą contact for getting to and
hearing about free parties here in Wales. Are you the person we are
looking for?
I have heard that there can be quite a gathering down there in Talybont
near Aberystwyth, but just simply donąt know anyone in my town that goes
to them. Boring! Can you help us get to what we love?
Many thanks! Hopefully see you soon?
Ben and Will
Phillip Ingle
Mike Slocombe <mi...@urban75.demon.co.uk> wrote
> I'd suggest that you get down to a few local parties or get to know some
> local anti-CJA/road/eco activists, as no-one in their right minds would
> post up such info in this newsgroup! (the police have been known to
> monitor postings)
I wasn't in my right mind - honest. Not drugs though just the flu. Anyway
I've cancelled my previous message about the location of this weekends Bank
holiday do.
Have the police really monitored postings? I wouldn't have credited our
local forces with such modernism.
I should note that I still can't definitely confirm the location. Pitbull
says that they will wait till after Bliss (Their new night at the Old Hall
in Penrhyn Bay) to decide for sure where the party is at.
> ben <milf...@dircon.co.uk> wrote
> >I have heard that there can be quite a gathering down there in Talybont
> >near Aberystwyth, but just simply donšt know anyone in my town that goes
> >to them. Boring! Can you help us get to what we love?
There are two official nights that I know of down that way. Alchemy at
Porky's in Aberystwyth (tel 01970 880 373) and Oxygen at Pier Pressure. I
haven't been to either so I can't comment on them. I'd imagine that if you
go along and have a word with the DJ's towards the end of the night they
will know of any free party's happening around there.
There is a big do happening up in the Snowdonia area this weekend.
Location to be disclosed at the end of Bliss.
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Phillip Ingle
> Right hopefully your the right person..... Boy oh boy do we need some
> help! Myself and my mate are originally from the Bristol & Bath area
> and we have recently moved to Tywyn on the west coast.
>
> We are in desperate need of Śa reliableą contact for getting to and
> hearing about free parties here in Wales. Are you the person we are
> looking for?
>
I usually have a pretty good idea of whats going on around here. The four
corners of 'here' being sort of Holyhead, the Llyn Peninsula, Conway and
Bala.
I've started putting together a web page with some details on it. Check it
out at http://www.btinternet.com/~nwrave
In my reply to Mike's reply I mentioned the nights in Aberystwyth cos that
name stood out. But as your in Tywyn then the nights at Rhyl are probably
a better bet to get some info. A crowd from Rhyl come down to most of the
free party's this way after being at Club Zinc or Sussex.
See you at the party
PLUR
North Wales Police
The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take action
to prevent your event.
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/nwp/
Phillip Ingle
Danny Richards <Da...@oscar1.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<HB3K5DAc...@oscar1.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <3369E8...@dial.pipex.com>, North Wales Police
> <ae...@dial.pipex.com> writes
> >The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take
action
> >to prevent your event.
> Is this for real or a wind up.
It's for real. Can you believe it. They came round to see me this
evening!!!! They thought that I was the 'organiser'.
I'm freaked out..
Oops.
My name will be all muddy around here now if it gets out that it was me
that leaked the venue. Any chance of keeping it quiet.
really deflated PLUR :-(
Mike Slocombe
In article <01bc56d3$902a7100$0100007f@bron-elidir>, Phillip Ingle
<?phil....@btinternet.com?> writes
>
>Have the police really monitored postings? I wouldn't have credited our
>local forces with such modernism.
Yep - they monitored the updates I put out for Freedom Network for the
ill-fated 'Mother' festival on this newsgroup.
:(
Mike
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jameslenoel
In article <3369E8...@dial.pipex.com>, North says...
>
>The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take action
>to prevent your event.
>
>http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/nwp/
>
Nice website, though it is let down by those low quality photos rather. You'll
find all kinds of skilled individuals able to produce a far more impressve site
on this newsgroup. However, even though they are for the most part sucessful at
what ever it is they choose to do they find themselves criminalised by
ridiculous laws, the essence of which is contained in the CJA, an act passed
even though your own bosses said it wouldn't, couldn't and shouldn't be made to
work.
You have a problem, because for every party you bust (cracking heads- no
thanks.) there will be another ten that go off completely peacefully, without
molestation by those who are meant to protect and serve ALL the people of this
great and diverse nation.
It is intersting to browse your website for there are a number of contradictions
included therein that suggest a wilfull disregard for your own policy.
Example:
One of the North Wales Police force's aims is, and I quote:
'Recognising and accepting the manner in which our public wish to live their
lives and adjusting our policing style and availability to meet their needs.'
You seem to be failing this aim pretty badly, though it needn't be like that.
Indeed, there are Chief Constables around the country who take a far more
realistic and pragmatic view working with organisers of parties both 'legal' and
'illegal' to ensure the saftey of those citizens who attend. Perhaps you could
take note of what they do, as a party that has the support, tacit or otherwise,
of the local constabulary will be more likely to both safe and clean.
Generally, permission is sought from landowners for these 'celebrations of life'
and allowing people to set up, put on and then, of course, clear up would surely
make both yours and their lives more easy. I don't know, you may even foster the
kind of community relations that you speak of on your website.
Essentially, though, you cannot win, while 'ravers' and 'criminals' rise up
through the ranks of this society and change it for the better, ill-judged
policies or inflexible 'dinosaurs' in the police force will become extinct. You
owe it to yourselves, your families and your fellow countrymen and women to
think about the ramifications of persecuting people who are, for the most part,
law-abiding, useful members of a free-thinking and liberal society that we, the
young and not-so-young are creating. A society based on mutual respect, peace
and understanding (Hark, I hear you sniggering, but it is happening slowly but
inexorably).
With the new government I feel sure your powers will be pushed in other more
positive directions but taking the initiative at this stage may mean the
difference between promotion within the force and being another Tosh Lines (out
of The Bill).
Feel free to continue this discussion on line, this is one of the friendliest
and most well informed newsgroups on the web and anyone is welcome.
I DO hope you have a good bank holiday and don't get too much overtime ( It's us
taxpayers who foot the bill, afterall), all that money is bad for the soul.
Feel free to contact me on my e-mail address if you're thinking of setting up
some focus groups, I'm generally at my desk from 8.45 until 6.30 Monday through
Friday.
;)
Yours in life's rich tapestry,
James Lenoel
Peace, Love, Unity, Respect,
Danny Richards
In article <3369E8...@dial.pipex.com>, North Wales Police
<ae...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take action
>to prevent your event.
Mr Welsh Plod you have confirmed what Mike Slocombe has been telling us
for ages...thats why I never post to newsgroups (this is my first I was
so incensed) and only use Email...at least it makes it harder for
you.....bastards***********.....I suppose now you will try and identify
me and smash my door down.
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Matt Wilson
In article: <3369E8...@dial.pipex.com> North Wales Police <ae...@dial.pipex.com> writes:
>
> The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take action
> to prevent your event.
>
Very interesting, as I can see no mention in the posts of anything that constitutes
illegal activity.
I fail to see how a 'free party', with no numbers or location given, can be deemed
illegal before the event. I mean, a wedding reception could be described as such.
As far as I know it is perfectly legal to have a party on private land proving there
are no complaints from nearby residents.
As such I would like to venture that the North Wales Police are acting beyond their jurisdiction
in taking action to prevent an event which has not been *proved* unlawful.
I for one would be very interested in any comments relating to this matter from North Wales
Police, and I would like to encourage anyone on UMR with suitable connections to find out
whether this sort of pre-emptive police action stands on shaky ground.
Thanks ;-)
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Matt Wilson
Mike Slocombe
In article <01bc5727$b0355ec0$0100007f@bron-elidir>, Phillip Ingle
<?phil....@btinternet.com?> writes
>It's for real. Can you believe it. They came round to see me this
>evening!!!! They thought that I was the 'organiser'.
>
>I'm freaked out..
>
>Oops.
>
>My name will be all muddy around here now if it gets out that it was me
>that leaked the venue. Any chance of keeping it quiet.
Could you e-mail me the full story? I find this immense waste of police
resources of some interest and feel that others might like to hear all
about it. Be careful when you mail me though - it's not impossible that
the mail will be read....
>
>really deflated PLUR :-(
Don't let the batards grind you down :)
Gregory R. Block
Matt Wilson <Ma...@melkshum.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: As such I would like to venture that the North Wales Police are acting beyond their jurisdiction
: in taking action to prevent an event which has not been *proved* unlawful.
As a matter of fact, I'd even venture to say that such an event would have
been widely accepted; I agree with your claims about the North Wales Police.
: whether this sort of pre-emptive police action stands on shaky ground.
I guess that's pretty self-evident, if you examine the problem by looking
at the individuals, who might feel controlled, rather than guarded, by the
actions of the North Wales Police.
Cheers, and lots of love,
Greg
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jameslenoel <jle...@ea.com> wrote:
: One of the North Wales Police force's aims is, and I quote:
: 'Recognising and accepting the manner in which our public wish to live their
: lives and adjusting our policing style and availability to meet their needs.'
: You seem to be failing this aim pretty badly, though it needn't be like that.
Yes, but the problem with such rules is that while they may seem to be
perfectly legitimate, they are often applied unilaterally, in a cold, unfair
manner. Most of the time, the public is happy enough without the interference
of the police, though most people will freely admit that they don't know the
extent of the involvement that the police have in the everyday life of any
given individual.
: make both yours and their lives more easy. I don't know, you may even foster t
: kind of community relations that you speak of on your website.
I think individuals *want* to belong to the community; they just need a bit of
direction on social etiquette to teach them *how* to join the community in
a safe manner that doesn't destroy the individual's identity or sense of self-
worth; I think people too easily forget that feelings and emotions are fragile
and fickle things, and trusting them, or ideas based on them, is very
difficult for some members of the population to do; the result is, of course,
that the individuals in the population who cannot overcome the inertia of their
fears are made to suffer for their lack of involvement with society, which
then destroys the whole atmosphere.
: policies or inflexible 'dinosaurs' in the police force will become extinct.
The dinosaurs are already extinct. I know, I know, I'm surprised too; I didn't
find that out until this weekend.
: owe it to yourselves, your families and your fellow countrymen and women to
: think about the ramifications of persecuting people who are, for the most part
: law-abiding, useful members of a free-thinking and liberal society that we, th
: young and not-so-young are creating. A society based on mutual respect, peace
: and understanding (Hark, I hear you sniggering, but it is happening slowly but
: inexorably).
And I'm sure, as well, that it will happen of its own accord; individuals
*want* to belong to a group, but they must first learn to conquer their fears
and develop a sense of self strong enough to cope with *being* in a group,
else risk losing their identity to others; some individuals, as well, may have
come from ghetto or poverty-stricken families, and may have never gained the
social skills necessary to facilitate group interaction in a natural or
consistent manner.
: positive directions but taking the initiative at this stage may mean the
: difference between promotion within the force and being another Tosh Lines (ou
: of The Bill).
: some focus groups, I'm generally at my desk from 8.45 until 6.30 Monday throug
I think if we're going to have a focus group, it should be a meeting between
the people who make the laws *and* the people who follow them; you'll find that
cooperation is a much more rewarding mechanism for instigating social change.
Besides, most individuals live only by the letter of the law, whenever
possible, to avoid misinterpreting the intent of the authors of those laws.
Peace, love, unity, and lots of respect for an insightful post,
Gregory R. Block
North Wales Police <ae...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
: The North Wales Police are monitoring your activities and we will take action
: to prevent your event.
They seem to have succeeded, from what I heard.