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Boss GT5 worse than a zoom GFX707 ??? Can this be true????

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brianhall

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Ok heres the rub.

My next door neighbour buys a GT5.(I go green with envy)

My next door neighbour lends me the GT5 to have a go with.(What a nice
bloke)

After one night playing with the presets my initial impressions are Uggghhh.
How can such an expensive piece of kit produce such fizzy horrible
distortions.Granted the clean sounds and the way out effects are great, but
i play mainly with an edgy overdrive for blues etc and in the main find my
humble Zoom GFX much better at producing these sounds. In addition a lot of
the over the top dripping with delay and reverb sounds can be emulated on
the Boss can be emulated on the Zoom.

Is it me? Am i mad?

Has anyone else had similar experiences.

Gary Wright

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Hi

I have the GT-3, so may be barking up entirely the wrong tree, but...

On the GT-3, there is a 'global' setting which tells the system if it is
outputing to a mixing desk, the normal input on a guitar amp or the return
of an effects loop on a guitar amp. This monkeys around with certain
settings, not made plain in the user manual (but I'm guessing cabinet
emulation). The basic thing is that if you have this set wrongly, then
EVERYTHING sounds pretty horrible (either fizzy or boomy). Could be your
problem.

Some of the presets on the 3 are fairly hideous, though show me a multifx
where this isn't the case.... Also, a perfect patch with my guitar and amp
will, of course, sound somewhat different on yours, so we would probably
disagree on which patches sucked and which were usable. With my setup,
there is certainly a higher proportion of usable patches straight from the
box than with the RP-7 (my previous pedal)

The best distortion patches I have made so far have been by overdriving the
Soldano and Matchless preamp simulations. Very nice. Don't know if the 5
has these.

Gary

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Gary Wright

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Oh, and there's more....

You can apply a global EQ that is applied after everything else to taylor
the output to the gear you are using it with. At least you can on the 3.

Adrian Clark

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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brianhall <bria...@breathemail.net> wrote:

> After one night playing with the presets my initial impressions are Uggghhh.
> How can such an expensive piece of kit produce such fizzy horrible
> distortions.

Did you make sure you had the speaker simulator on "Global On", or
whatever the equivalent is for that unit?

I've never tried the GT5, but I reviewed the GT3 recently, and quite
honestly, for that price range (350-ish) it blows everything else away.

Just personal opinion, though.


Adrian

Jonathan J Quick

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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A guitarist I play with (matron!) has a GT5, and he seems to get pretty
good sounds out of it either through his guitar amp or recorded direct to
disk (presumably with the speaker simulator for the latter). A great piece
of kit, even if you do need a degree in RolandSpeak to understand the darn
thing, my GR30 seems simpler to operate...

JJ.

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Adrian Clark

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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Jonathan J Quick <n...@spam.here> wrote:

> A guitarist I play with (matron!) has a GT5, and he seems to get pretty
> good sounds out of it either through his guitar amp or recorded direct to
> disk (presumably with the speaker simulator for the latter).

The speaker/amp simulation stuff is pretty much the same in all of their
four main guitar units (the Boss GT3, GT5 and rackmount GX700 and the
Roland GP100). From what I understood from speaking to Peter Heath of
Roland, the GT5 is essentially the GX700's software in a footpedal unit.
The GT3 has less options for modifying the amp/speaker settings and less
MIDI functionality, but there isn't much difference.

And then there's the GP100 - one of my most cherished possessions (well,
not really *cherished*; I could always get another if I lost it). As far
as combined effects/direct preamp units go, I've not heard anything to
match it in the 4 years since it came out (apart from maybe the VG-8,
but that's a bit different).

> A great piece
> of kit, even if you do need a degree in RolandSpeak to understand the darn
> thing, my GR30 seems simpler to operate...

That's always the worst thing about Roland gear, although I hear they're
getting better (their new studio reverb is reviewed in SOS this month).
The manual for the VS880 is total shite - I've got pretty good at
reading shite manuals over the years, so I got along fine, but it wasn't
until I downloaded all the alternative manuals and stuff off the web
that I realised just what the thing could do!


Adrian

Gary Wright

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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I agree about the manuals - the .pdf files you can download from the web are
rather more use than certain bits of the GT-3 manual.

I am a diagnostic ultrasound engineer, and read more technobabble than you
can shake a stick at. Still have problems with bits of the GT-3 manual.

Gary

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