Allegedly leave those naff MK50 things in the dust :-)
Seriously though, they have a tasty spec (with price to match) and I'd love
to at least try one, but I'm not aware of any stockists around Bristol.
Of course if I try one I might like it. A lot. Perhaps more than the other
"sensible" things I should spend money on...
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>Has anyone played one of these amps?
>
>Allegedly leave those naff MK50 things in the dust :-)
>
>Seriously though, they have a tasty spec (with price to match) and I'd love
>to at least try one, but I'm not aware of any stockists around Bristol.
>
>Of course if I try one I might like it. A lot. Perhaps more than the other
>"sensible" things I should spend money on...
>
I saw one being demo'd at Music Live on Saturday. The sounds were
impressive, smooth distortion with good clear dynamics. I think it was
being played by Aynsley Lister, who's new album is produced by ex-Hoax
guitarist, Jesse Davey. The sound was very bluesy, but having seen
Blackfire (albiet a while ago, I am a Bristol man meself) I would have
said its probably not for you. Go for the Mk50 or stick with Marshall!
Andy_D
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Thanks. The blurb on the Hellcat actually makes it sound like a higher gain
amp than the MK50:
"The idea behind the "Hellcat" was to push the boundaries of boutique amp
making to their very limits, taking it to where no boutique amp has been
before. Channel 2 takes you to every point on the vintage amp scale with
just the turn of the gain control where as channel 1 takes you to a place
that no boutique amp has ever dared visit. A boutique amp that does metal?
And all points in between and it does it all in that very special Cornford
way. None more brown and most definitely the tone by which all others must
be judged."
Of course it could well be down to the style of the person who you saw
playing. Or maybe not.
I believe the closest stockist to me is Cranes, all the way over the Severn
bridge in darkest Cardiff. Apparently they have 2 on order of which one is
already sold, so I really don't know when I'll get the chance to try one.
And it's WAY too much money for me to just order one on spec.
Ah well, at least you didn't say that having seen Blackfire you think we
should give up! :-) I trust you were entertained?
> Thanks. The blurb on the Hellcat actually makes it sound like a
higher gain
> amp than the MK50:
>
> "The idea behind the "Hellcat" was to push the boundaries of
boutique amp
> making to their very limits, taking it to where no boutique amp
has been
> before. Channel 2 takes you to every point on the vintage amp
scale with
> just the turn of the gain control where as channel 1 takes you
to a place
> that no boutique amp has ever dared visit. A boutique amp that
does metal?
> And all points in between and it does it all in that very
special Cornford
> way. None more brown and most definitely the tone by which all
others must
> be judged."
>
> Of course it could well be down to the style of the person who
you saw
> playing. Or maybe not.
I didn't hear the Hellcat but got a good look at it. It has EL84s
(4No)rather than the EL34s (2No?) of the MK50. It also has a
spring reverb mounted in the roof of the casing (front-to-back)
with IIRC gold plated jacks connecting the tank to the chassis. I
did ask why the Hellcat was more expensive than the MK50 and they
said it had more parts, or something. It has got 2 more valve
bases and a more tapped output TX. According to the leaflet the
price includes footswitch and 4 leads (f/s, power, speaker &
guitar) but I don't know if the MK50 includes these.
Icarusi
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I'm gravitating towards a MK50 for full on rock sounds even if I'll have
to have it plugged in a couple of miles away because its soooooooo loud.
What I'd really like is for them to take my Hurricane and make it twin
channel, the new channel being a cascaded gain Boogie style one, the
other can stay just as it is now.
Dave
I was not at all impressed by the demo artist (or his sound) in dirty
jeans playing on their stage and promoting his CD at MusicLive.
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Well?
> I'd agree with you here, the blurb and the real amp dont seem to
> coincide. I was expecting the Cornford equivalent of Rectifier sounds
> but its a much more vintage sounding amp (great sounding of course).
>
> I'm gravitating towards a MK50 for full on rock sounds even if I'll have
> to have it plugged in a couple of miles away because its soooooooo loud.
mmmm... mk50.
mine is now resting at casa whitaker.
I am moist.
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Dave
>
> Save some dosh, be reliable and less weight!
>
Is that Dave or the amp?
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Hrm... wonder who that was? I went to see a guy called Jamie Humphries in
manchester a few weeks ago playing through an MK50... could it have been him
at Music Live?
...the same Jamie Humphries was scheduled to do a clinic/demo/workshop thing
at MusicLive on the Friday afternoon but he didn't turn up.
Dave
Jamie Humphries, meanwhile, was demoing the 'Fret King' guitars on Trevor
Wilkinson's stand. A fine guitarist, to be sure.
HTH,
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He's an astounding guitar player, with a tremendous tone, and what I've
heard of the stuff for the new album (he played some in Manchester)
sounds like it'll be well worth buying.
I wonder what he was doing demoing Fret King, given that he's a Music Man
endorser?
Waiting for an It Bites tour,
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At least this was from the horses mouth but dont hold your breath!
I bet Jamie is a bit peeved if he's spent time learning all those
ridiculously easy solos.......
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(who is spending today wondering which "brand" is most popular with the
nu-metalkids so I can follow the "hype" and select my next amp - <G>)
Steady on, Stewart! I know your amps are good - your sound at the jam night
was by far the best - but I'm sure you didn't mean to imply that "real"
players only use tranny amps. Your post could be read that way...
FWIW - I've tried all sorts over the years, although for sure I haven't
tried everything - for instance I've not gigged with one of yours. But based
on my experience so far, for sheer simplicity and for the kind of tone &
response I'm after I do prefer *small* valve amps. Vive la difference! Each
to his own etc.
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> Indeed, 'twas Aynsley Lister demoing the Cornford gear.
>
> Jamie Humphries, meanwhile, was demoing the 'Fret King' guitars
on Trevor
> Wilkinson's stand. A fine guitarist, to be sure.
I'd like to have seen that. I'm pretty sure it was Jamie
Humphries doing some very impressive 'fusiony' type stuff on the
'Guitarist' mag stand last year.
Steve, you know as well as anyone, that the English language leaves much
oportunity for creative twisting. If you want it to mean that, then it
allows you to do so. Your response certainly reads to me that you like
turning things around. Ever considered a career in politics?
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Oh dear... sincere apologies for my part in this misunderstanding.
Let those others who have *never* created anything, do better than chew
fat.
Have you tried Boogie's Bottle Rocket pedal with your Hurricane?
Ian.
I also noticed that Peter cooks have an offer on Zoom distortion pedals
at the moment (Ł45). Harmony Central seems to rate the Hyper Lead. May
be worth a punt at that price.
Dave
> Has anyone played one of these amps?
Yes... did a demo in a recent Guitarist.
>
> Allegedly leave those naff MK50 things in the dust :-)
Not to my mind/ears... they're different (but equally good) beasts. I
found the Hellcat to be 'darker' sounding than the MK50, and even though
it has bags of gain, we got the best results on semi-overdriven sounds
(it's a twin-channel amp).
Adrian
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