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Darth Elvis

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Aug 3, 2001, 5:26:34 PM8/3/01
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How did Hot Chocolate's guitar player conceive his typical guitarsound as
heard in hits like 'Every 1's a Winner', 'So You Win Again' and 'You Sexy
Thing'? The sound is so odd rock critic Dave Marsh mistook it for a
synthesizer. I never heard it anywhere else so I guess it's not an
off-the-shelf 70's stompbox. Any1 know?

Regards,
Darth Elvis

Andrew S

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Aug 3, 2001, 7:05:18 PM8/3/01
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"Darth Elvis" <Darth...@UseTheGrace.com> wrote in message
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IIRC he was using one of the early Roland guitar synths.........hence the
synthy tones on a guitar riff.

cheers

Andrew


Magnus Paterson

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Aug 6, 2001, 3:57:21 AM8/6/01
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Andrew S <and...@nospamcarrew.com> wrote in message
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.... and I seem to remember seeing him playing a Les Paul
recording model in at least one of the videos.

Magnus

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> cheers
>
> Andrew
>
>


Tridders

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Aug 6, 2001, 5:38:17 AM8/6/01
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"Magnus Paterson" wrote >
Andrew S
wrote

"Darth Elvis"
wrote

> > | How did Hot Chocolate's guitar player conceive his typical guitarsound
> as
> > | heard in hits like 'Every 1's a Winner', 'So You Win Again' and 'You
> Sexy
> > | Thing'? The sound is so odd rock critic Dave Marsh mistook it for a
> > | synthesizer. I never heard it anywhere else so I guess it's not an
> > | off-the-shelf 70's stompbox. Any1 know?
> > |
> > | Regards,
> > | Darth Elvis
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> > IIRC he was using one of the early Roland guitar synths.........hence
the
> > synthy tones on a guitar riff.
>
> .... and I seem to remember seeing him playing a Les Paul
> recording model in at least one of the videos.
>
> Magnus
>
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Andrew
> >

Hi,

IIRC, Hot Chocolate's guitarist achieved his trademark tone, on the early
stuff at least, e.g., 'Emmaline', using a Bigsby loaded Gibson SG through a
half-cocked Cry Baby. This gave him that middly 'honk' to his tone. YMMV

regards

Tridders :0)


Steve Dix

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Aug 6, 2001, 5:18:17 PM8/6/01
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:57:21 +0100, "Magnus Paterson" <m...@roe.ac.uk>
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>>
>> IIRC he was using one of the early Roland guitar synths.........hence the
>> synthy tones on a guitar riff.
>
>.... and I seem to remember seeing him playing a Les Paul
>recording model in at least one of the videos.
>

Are you sure? One of the early Roland Guitar Synths was built-in to
a Les Paul copy. There's a picture of it in the ultimate guitar book

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On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 21:18:17 GMT, St...@myfullname.de (Steve Dix)
wrote:

>On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:57:21 +0100, "Magnus Paterson" <m...@roe.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> IIRC he was using one of the early Roland guitar synths.........hence the
>>> synthy tones on a guitar riff.
>>
>>.... and I seem to remember seeing him playing a Les Paul
>>recording model in at least one of the videos.
>>
>Are you sure? One of the early Roland Guitar Synths was built-in to
>a Les Paul copy. There's a picture of it in the ultimate guitar book
>

Instrument aside, what happened to the man who played those guitar
parts (was it just my perception at the time, or were they more
'acceptable' than a lot of other pop acts for some reason - such as
better songwriter, decent production - and a wonderfully filthy guitar
sound?)

steve_cobham

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Aug 7, 2001, 5:39:58 AM8/7/01
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The guitarist was Harvey Hinsley who was also a sessionman and hooked
up with Albert Lee in Black Claw and Country Fever which were two
studio bands with identical personnel.

The guiding force behind all this was a producer called Derek Lawrence
who is possibly best known as the producer of the Deep Purple album
which had their first hit "Hush" on.

DL wanted a sort of British Muscle Shoals house band which could turn
its hands to a mixture of R&B and Country.

The band included AL, HH, B J Cole on steel, Matthew Fisher (from
Procul), Chas Hodges (of & Dave fame - a player who had really been
round the block!) and others.

Between 68 and 70 they cut a lot of tracks which were issued as being
by Black Claw and Country Fever as well as a lot of other work as
sessioneers for other DL acts. The bands that toured this BC and CF
stuff always included Albert AFAIK, but not necessarily the others.

Of course, this work got AL the gig with Emmy Lou Harris eventually
and then even more fame as a sessionman and a band leader in his own
right.

I don't know what Harvey Hinsley is doing now.

Steve.
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Magnus Paterson

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Steve Dix <St...@myfullname.de> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:57:21 +0100, "Magnus Paterson" <m...@roe.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >> IIRC he was using one of the early Roland guitar synths.........hence
the
> >> synthy tones on a guitar riff.
> >
> >.... and I seem to remember seeing him playing a Les Paul
> >recording model in at least one of the videos.
> >
> Are you sure? One of the early Roland Guitar Synths was built-in to
> a Les Paul copy. There's a picture of it in the ultimate guitar book

That's probably it. It was a while back, & the brain cells are now
fewer and slower than they used to be!

Cheers,
Magnus


Magnus Paterson

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Aug 7, 2001, 6:25:59 AM8/7/01
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Steve Cobham wrote:
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> I don't know what Harvey Hinsley is doing now.
>
> Steve.

He played on Steve Harley's "Blueprint" album last year.

Magnus

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Feb 18, 2019, 10:08:41 PM2/18/19
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That was the Roland GR-500 guitar synth.It was integrated into a guitar built by a Japanese guitar builder.I had a newer version the GR-1,which was full of non guitar emulations like pianos,horns,etc.based on the old Roland JP-8 synthesizer,which uses PCM sampling.
.I could actually use it to create MIDI sequences teamed with the Roland MC-50 Sequencer.To learn how to do that,I had to order the book special from the Roland factory.I had one of the 1st ones in Florida in 1992.
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