Jackson Charvel Model 5 - value?
Champ
that much when I did).
Anyway, a good friend of mine[1], due to his recent purchase of a
Parker Fly, has offered me first refusal on his Les Paul. Now, I've
*always* wanted to own a Les Paul, and I guess its an itch that has to
be scratched sometime.
But I can only really justify it, both for the expense and space, if I
sell on one of my other guitars. The one that doesn't get used at all
nowadays is my Jackson Charvel Model 5. It's a Japanese made
super-strat, with humbucker (bridge) and 2 single poles, and a Kahler
trem. I've just fished it out, and it plays beautifully (but doesn't
quite have the tone of my Jackson Soloist, and it's too similar to the
Soloist to really keep both).
Anyway, to the point - I've avoided GAS for the last few years, and so
have no idea what it might be worth. Or how I might find out what
it's worth. (yes, I've looked on eBay).
Anyone got any ideas?
[1] a regular on here, I believe [2]
[2] *waves* to Cane
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk
DaveBenj
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> nowadays is my Jackson Charvel Model 5. It's a Japanese made
> super-strat, with humbucker (bridge) and 2 single poles, and a Kahler
> trem.
Difficult to say without photos.
As a rule of thumb and assuming you've had it for a few years
If you bought it new, it's worth about half what you paid for it.
If you bought it used, it's worth about the same as you paid for it.
bertie
> "Champ" <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
So, formulae would be:
X ( current value ) = either: 1) Y over 2 x (a constant
representing the unknown variations from day to day )( say y ),
or: 2) Z ( see original receipt ). Therefore, X = Y/2x or = Z.
Any questions?
By the way, what colour is it? Could be important.
-
DaveBenj
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> By the way, what colour is it? Could be important.
eBay Item number: 120511014149
That one is a nice colour - shame I missed it :-)
Champ
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>"Champ" <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
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>> nowadays is my Jackson Charvel Model 5. It's a Japanese made
>> super-strat, with humbucker (bridge) and 2 single poles, and a Kahler
>> trem.
>
>Difficult to say without photos.
Here you go : http://www.champ.org.uk/music/images/Model5/M5.html
It's in pretty good nick. There's a chip off the laminate at the end
of the headstock (a perenial problem with guitars with pointy
headstocks, ime), and some chips and scratches by the input jack.
>As a rule of thumb and assuming you've had it for a few years
>If you bought it new, it's worth about half what you paid for it.
>If you bought it used, it's worth about the same as you paid for it.
Hmm. Thinking about it, that seems to be quite a good rule of thumb.
According to the serial number (and some googling), it was made in
1986. I bought it around 93~94, and I think I paid around �350 for it.
Which seemed like a lot of money at the time! Of course, I'm rather
hoping it's become a rare vintage classic in the past 15 years.
DaveBenj
> Here you go : http://www.champ.org.uk/music/images/Model5/M5.html
>
> It's in pretty good nick. There's a chip off the laminate at the end
> of the headstock (a perenial problem with guitars with pointy
> headstocks, ime), and some chips and scratches by the input jack.
Just normal wear and tear - nothing to worry about.
Looks tidy enough to me.
The pointy headstock stuff isn't really my thing, so I may be bit off the
mark here
(This is my kind of stuff
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383198@N03/sets/72157610802407686/)
I didn't expect it to have a set neck, that was a bit of a surprise - I
thought all Jackson/Charvels/Charvettes had bolt on necks.
(Pablo will be along in a moment to tell you all about pointy headstock
stuff.)
>>If you bought it used, it's worth about the same as you paid for it.
> I bought it around 93~94, and I think I paid around �350 for it.
I'd have thought that somewhere around �300 - �350 would be reasonable for
it
(Pablo will be along in a minute etc etc etc)
>Of course, I'm rather
> hoping it's become a rare vintage classic in the past 15 years.
We can all hope...
I've seen dealers asking 500 quid for Squier "Hank Marvin" Strats (see
Flickr link above)
They're taking the piss
:-)
How much is Cane asking for his Les Paul?
I'd think somewhere around �1200 would be reasonable.
Champ
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>> Here you go : http://www.champ.org.uk/music/images/Model5/M5.html
>The pointy headstock stuff isn't really my thing, so I may be bit off the
>mark here
>I didn't expect it to have a set neck, that was a bit of a surprise - I
>thought all Jackson/Charvels/Charvettes had bolt on necks.
There's quite a history with Jackson & Charvel. The model 4, 5 & 6
were very high quality thru-neck guitars (see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvel#Charvel_Model_4)
>(Pablo will be along in a moment to tell you all about pointy headstock
>stuff.)
<waits impatiently...>
Pablo
> >"Champ" <n...@champ.org.uk> wrote in message
> >news:v3k4k5tbomnh52pin...@4ax.com...
> >> Here you go :http://www.champ.org.uk/music/images/Model5/M5.html
> >The pointy headstock stuff isn't really my thing, so I may be bit off the
> >mark here
> >I didn't expect it to have a set neck, that was a bit of a surprise - I
> >thought all Jackson/Charvels/Charvettes had bolt on necks.
>
> There's quite a history with Jackson & Charvel. The model 4, 5 & 6
>
> >(Pablo will be along in a moment to tell you all about pointy headstock
> >stuff.)
>
> <waits impatiently...>
>
> --
> Champ
> neal at champ dot org dot uk
Hi,
I'm not that clued up on Jacksons and Charvels to be honest,
especially since guitar prices have jumped up quite a bit in the last
year. £250 seems a reasonable starting price to me but on Ebay you may
get more depending where it was made etc. I think the strat headstock
models go for more and it has that odd bridge that getting spares
might put people off as well as the three minitoggles ( I had a guitar
with these once and never again...) Musiczoo has old Charvels on it
and they can go for a lot of money.
Selling directly after Christmas may be a bad time. Kids will want
something new or fairly new and would be put off by the fact it has
the old bridge. Older folk who value these will be skint after
shelling out on Christmas pressents for kids.
Cheers
Pablo
JNugent
[ ... ]
(This is my kind of stuff
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383198@N03/sets/72157610802407686/)
> I've seen dealers asking 500 quid for Squier "Hank Marvin" Strats (see
> Flickr link above)
> They're taking the piss
> :-)
Not by as much as you might think.
All the Japanese-made HBM signature Fender stuff was underpriced when sold
new (compared to the demand for it). The second batch (the Fiesta Red
Fender-branded Strats with the V-neck) were sold off at �299 apiece because
Burns had just introduced the Marvinesque Marquee model at that same price.
They all go for good prices now - better than when new.
Champ
wrote:
>> >(Pablo will be along in a moment to tell you all about pointy headstock
>> >stuff.)
>I'm not that clued up on Jacksons and Charvels to be honest,
>especially since guitar prices have jumped up quite a bit in the last
>year. �250 seems a reasonable starting price to me but on Ebay you may
>get more depending where it was made etc.
It's definitely Japanese made.
>I think the strat headstock
>models go for more and it has that odd bridge that getting spares
>might put people off as well as the three minitoggles ( I had a guitar
>with these once and never again...)
Strangely, I love the 3 toggle switches, and much prefer it to the
'normal' 5-way switch on my Soloist. With the three switches, I can
have exactly what I want on; my usual setting is bridge + neck,
without the middle pickup.
Also, I find the Kahler bridge at least as good, if not better than
the Floyd Rose on my Soloist. It just seems to be more stable, and
persists tuning better. But, as you say, you can't get the bits
anymore.
>Musiczoo has old Charvels on it and they can go for a lot of money.
<looks> They only seem to have modern Charvels on there at the
moment.
>Selling directly after Christmas may be a bad time. Kids will want
>something new or fairly new and would be put off by the fact it has
>the old bridge. Older folk who value these will be skint after
>shelling out on Christmas pressents for kids.
All good points.
Many thanks for your help.
DaveBenj
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Really? That surprises me.
I'd have thought that the one in the photos is worth maybe �250-ish on a
good day.
(Pics in here :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383198@N03/sets/72157610802407686/)
I'd guess at about 8/10 condition (it's been gigged a bit).
Fitted with staggered pole pickups from a USA Standard Start (I still have
the original (horrid) pups)
and the shite Squier switch has been replaced with a "proper" Schaller one.
The only other notable thing about it is a nice subtle flame on the neck
timber.
All of which is completely academic because I've had it from new and I am
not selling it.
:-)
Ross Edwards
Champ
>But I can only really justify it, both for the expense and space, if I
>sell on one of my other guitars. The one that doesn't get used at all
>nowadays is my Jackson Charvel Model 5. It's a Japanese made
>super-strat, with humbucker (bridge) and 2 single poles, and a Kahler
>trem. I've just fished it out, and it plays beautifully (but doesn't
>quite have the tone of my Jackson Soloist, and it's too similar to the
>Soloist to really keep both).
And it turns out that I'm an idiot. I phoned and old friend that I
used to play with, and he reminded me that I own a Model 6, not a
Model 5. My guitar looks exactly like this:
http://www.gotcrush.net/sitebuilder/images/11_1990_Charvel_Model_6-279x428.jpg
The Model 6 was essentially the precursor to the Jackson soloist.
Sharks fin inlays and all that. My friend thinks it is 'vintage', and
worth quite a lot. I have my doubts. Time to do some more research,
I think.