epiphone les paul?
manic
a standard, standard plus or custom). I have an american Fender strat but
would like a les paul (cant really afford a gibson). The Epiphone les paul
seems quite reasonable for the price but I would like to know what people
who own them think, are they what there hyped up to be? or ar the overated.
Also what colour do you think is best and should it be the custom/plus or
standard/plus?
thanks
James Shackley
les paul tone, and the look from 20 feet away...
But there are a LOT of bad ones - Many seconds and models with real problems
are finding their way into shops - If where you buy from doesn't care enough
to check them out and send them back, then there's a chance you could end up
with a real dawg....
In my opinion, Epi's are vastly overpriced - The quality of the hardware and
componentry on them is very poor - if you plan to gig or at least use the
guitar on a frequent basis you WILL need to replace the nasty plastic nut,
microphonic and dull pickups, iffy electronics and potentially the bridge
(i've had many problems with Epi tune-o-matics and snapped/stripped
screws)....
After all the upgrades there's no doubt you'd have a pukka guitar - But for
me the money could be better spent on a Tokai or even a Gordon Smith - Both
of these makers produce some stunning guitars with THAT kinda tone, but are
better built than 99.9% of the Epiphones out there...
Your other alternative would be to look for a used Gibson - I know of a S/H,
mint Studio going for £480 local to me.....the deals are out there!
Hope this helps, and apologies to come across as an Epi-Basher, but i do
feel strongly that the guitar playing public are being ripped off....
Cheers,
James
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Gary Ames
I have 3 ( he said sheepishly). The Gypsy II and the Graduate 60 are ,
IMVHO better guitars than my 1979 Les Paul standard ( although I guess
there is always the name on the headstock and resale values of Gibsons
just seem to go up ....)
Gordon smiths also have coil taps as standard and the company are
great to deal with if you need any help....
Gary
Jose de las Heras
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> I'd second the Gordon Smith suggestion. Hand made best British beef !
> I have 3 ( he said sheepishly). The Gypsy II and the Graduate 60 are ,
> IMVHO better guitars than my 1979 Les Paul standard ( although I guess
> there is always the name on the headstock and resale values of Gibsons
> just seem to go up ....)
>
> Gordon smiths also have coil taps as standard and the company are
> great to deal with if you need any help....
>
> Gary
Seconded (of course ;-)
Do try Gordon Smith if you can.
Having said that, I think Epis are nice too. Like with any other guitar,
it's better to try it prsonally and see.
I once had my mind made to buy an Epi LP standard. I wanted the green
translucent one which I thought looked great. But I could only manage to
find one, in Coda Music in Luton. So I drove from Reading to try it. Nice,
but had a horrible fretboard. They had also a very nice in all respects LP
in cherry sunburst. But, it wasn't green, so I didn't buy it.
Eventually my green-madness passed, and a couple of years later I got a
Gordon Smith Graduate 60, which Gary now owns, and can be seen at
http://www.mcnach.com/gear1.html (I went for an Ibanez instead after all).
Do try Gordon Smith guitars if you're after an LP-style...
cheers,
Jose
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Al
> There ARE some good ones out there, which will give you an estimation
> of the les paul tone, and the look from 20 feet away...
I think I got one of the good (or at least reasonable) ones :-)
However, the 'bookmatched' top doesn't match terribly well and the neck
inlays look a bit wonky in a certain light.
Plays and sounds fine though, and worth the money for my use.
> In my opinion, Epi's are vastly overpriced - The quality of the
> hardware and componentry on them is very poor - if you plan to gig or
> at least use the guitar on a frequent basis you WILL need to replace
> the nasty plastic nut, microphonic and dull pickups, iffy electronics
> and potentially the bridge (i've had many problems with Epi
> tune-o-matics and snapped/stripped screws)....
Not had any problems with any of the above, but then I've never gigged
mine. I think I bought it about 6 or 7 years ago and nothing's failed yet.
Upgrading the pickups is on my list of jobs though.
> After all the upgrades there's no doubt you'd have a pukka guitar -
> But for me the money could be better spent on a Tokai or even a Gordon
> Smith - Both of these makers produce some stunning guitars
I'd agree with that. The latest Tokai offerings are in a higher price
bracket though and it's not so easy to find a GS in a local guitar shop.
Also I think a lot of people perceive GS's as 'plain'. Personally I like
the look of them (still hankering after an LP Junior or Melody Maker!).
> Hope this helps, and apologies to come across as an Epi-Basher, but i
> do feel strongly that the guitar playing public are being ripped
> off....
Useful information thanks! :-)
Al.
Brendan
>
> In my opinion, Epi's are vastly overpriced - The quality of the hardware and
> componentry on them is very poor - if you plan to gig or at least use the
> guitar on a frequent basis you WILL need to replace the nasty plastic nut,
> microphonic and dull pickups, iffy electronics and potentially the bridge
> (i've had many problems with Epi tune-o-matics and snapped/stripped
> screws)....
>
my 79 les paul deluxe is a cracker, absolutely brilliant. It
also has a plastic nut, lukewarm pickups (replaced with seymour duncan
custom firebird, hot)and needed to replace the tuneomatic bridge
because of a snapped bolt.
I played a new LP custom in a shop recently. The guitar nut was not
properly cut even though it had all the tags on it, all for £2,200.
Maybe gibson are taking the piss too.
David Morley
hugh3...@hotmail.com (Brendan) wrote:
Basically Gibson are selling on name. Sure they make great guitars (not
all, but a lot), but the prices are absurd.
Epiphone seems to sellbecause they are part of gibson. As if they are
using the same parts or whatever. They can be fine guitars too, but you
need to check them first.
If it doesn´t have to look like a les paul, a Gordon & Smith will be a
nicer guitar normally. Also, the new Ibanez SZ520, despite looking like
a strat, is a great guitar.
Cold Ethyl
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