[The last one ever] UKMG: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
T N Nurse
Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
and with it, goes my net access.
So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
worked the strings.
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Welcome to the uk.music.guitar FAQ. The purpose of this document is to
provide an information resource for players and answer the most common
questions asked in the newsgroup. This FAQ will be posted weekly and
is also available on the web at :
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~dam/rev/ukmgfaq.html
http://www.ukmg.org.uk/faq.html
(temporarily http://ukmg.altrion.org/faq.html)
New-this-week or changed items are marked with a star(*) symbol.
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CONTENTS
Introduction
General
o What's the group about?
o Binaries
o Crossposting
o Posting style
o UKMGPU
o GAS
Buying and Selling
o Product Reviews
o Importing a guitar
o Ads in the newsgroup
o Buying valves in the UK
o Buying strings online
o Instrument Insurance (Under Construction)
o Buying Cables
Care
o Where to buy robust cases
Repair and Maintenance
o Where to buy small parts such as pickups, switches,etc
o Where to get parts to build a guitar
o Adjusting truss rod
o How to 'set-up' a guitar
o Cleaning the guitar
o I've blown a speaker!
o (Glossary of Terms)
Safety
o Electrical safety advice
o Use of RCD protection
Playing
o Where to find tablature
o Digital recording on a PC
o Recording an acoustic guitar
o Lessons/Teaching
o What is alternative tuning?
o What is Widdlefest?
o Where can I hear newsgroup contributers playing?
Introduction
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Harmony Central - http://www.harmony-central.com - should be
considered as your starting point. It contains a vast array of useful
information and links to many other sites.
Aside from this newsgroup, there are several other guitar related groups
on the net. If you have a beginners question, we recommend the
alt.guitar.beginners group as an excellent source of answers.
alt.guitar.tab is a good first stop for how to play songs along
with rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature. Other useful groups are
alt.guitar.bass, alt.guitar.effects, alt.guitar.amps,
rec.music.makers.guitar rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic,
rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
Please don't crosspost to these groups, choose one, or, if you must,
post the message separately in each relevant group.
General
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Q: What's this group about?
A: Guitars. Playing (all styles), equipment, maintenance, teaching,
learning, recording, buying, selling, plus discussion about
guitarists and guitar-related music. Discussion of other stringed
instruments (banjo, lute etc) also welcome. Naturally most of the
discussion will be from a UK perspective.
Q: Can I post binaries here?
A: No. Binaries should be restricted to newsgroups with the word
'binary' in its title. This is a plain text only group, Because
binary attachments are frequently carriers of viruses, they are
prohibited in this group. If you wish to draw people's attention
to something that is in binary format, eg pictures, mp3 samples do
it through a web page reference or post it to one of the many
.binary groups and post a simple text message here indicating
where it can be found.
Q: What about html?
A: Again - no. Html belongs on web pages and ends up being unreadable
in many newsreaders as well as bloating articles to be many times
the size of a plain text article. If you are using Outlook Express,
it is very simple to switch to plain text.
Go to TOOLS -> OPTION -> SEND
..and click the plain text box in New Sending Format
Q: What about crossposting? I notice that there are other guitar related
groups like alt.guitar?
A: That's not a good idea. The flamage in alt. tends to be much higher
and long running flame wars tend to drown out reasonable discussion.
alt.guitar is no different in that respect and seems to have a few
individuals more interested in flooding the group with bickering. It
was to get away from that that uk.music.guitar was first proposed so
- no, crossposting to alt.guitar is not a good idea.
Q: There seems to be a lot of argument on Usenet on how one should format
your reply, i.e. top posting vs bottom posting vs embedded posting.
Which one is the preferred style for this group?
A: There's no preferrence for this group. Any style is acceptable_but_
make sure you edit the article you are replying to, to remove old
redundant points or points you are not addressing. If the point has
some vague relevance, ie context, then simply delete it and put a one
line summary in square brackets to retain the context. Also, ensure
that your signature file delineator -- (dash, dash, space) is at the
very end of the entire article. Some versions of OE put the insert
point for your contribution at the beginning (top posting) and then
stuck the delineator after your contribution. This had the effect of
defining all the article you were replying to as a signature file and
some of the more sophisticated newsreaders have an option to suppress
signatures that go over a certain number of lines. The effect was the
appearance of an article that had no context at all and was
'orphaned' from the text it was replying to. Also don't reply to a
100 line article by including all the previous text just to add one
line of your own. That is considered very bad nettiquette.
Q: What does UKMGPU mean.
A: UKMGPU means its's time to meet up at an agreed pub for a small
libation with a few of the regular readers and posters. All are
welcome. Oh and UKMGPU stands for "UK.Music.Guitar.P_ss.Up
Q: Is it true that this group is full of big haired, spandex wearing
people?
A: Erm..you want to talk to Tiffany Tractor about that one!
Q: Does this group have a patron saint?
A: Yes. Bert Weedon.
Q: What is GAS? It sounds awful.
A: It is - Guitar (or Gear) Aquisition Syndrom - a terrible desire to
buy more and more instruments and equipment.
Buying and selling
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Q: I'm thinking of buying a [name your product], where can I find
reviews?
A Harmony Central has a large database of product reviews where you
that people will be rather reluctant to admit to having bought
a turkey and that the reviews can sometimes be a bit over the
top, but there should be enough there to be going on with.
Q: Can I import a guitar from the US, what is involved and will it
be cheaper?
A: Well known brands in the US sell at dollars-for-pounds rates,
that is, if a Gibson Les Paul costs 1000 pounds in the UK, it
will cost $1000 in the US. Importing a guitar involves a number
of extra costs and problems. Firstly, you have to find a
dealer prepared to ship. Secondly, you have no control over
what instrument they may send you as you will not have the
opportunity to play a number of the instruments and choose the
best one. The extra costs involved are shipping - about
$150 - $200 for FedEx, a 3% import duty into the UK and
finally 17.5% VAT on top of all that. Add all that in and
before you realise it, your $1000 Les Paul is getting pretty
close to the UK price. Having said all that, you_may_ come
across the occasional bargain in the US and then it might be
worth considering. Musicyo (http://www.musicyo.com) offers
some good deals on Steinberger guitars as well as other
instruments. At least one poster to the group bought a
Steinberger this way and ended up paying half what he would
have in a well known London store for the same guitar.
Q: I have an instrument for sale. Can I post an ad?
A: Strictly speaking, uk.music.guitar is a discussion forum and,
to be honest, you'd get a much better response if you posted it
to Loot (http://www.loot.com) or one of the 'adverts'
newsgroups but, if you think someone might be interested in
your instrument AND it is a genuine private sale AND it is
not spammed (cross-posted to lots of groups) AND it is not
repetitively posted to the group, you may, with certain restrictions
advertise your instrument or draw attention its listing at an
online auction. The restrictions are as follows:
1) Absolutely no commercial advertising is permitted. All ads must be
for private sales only
2) The subject line should be prefixed with FS and then a space
for items that are for sale or FA and a space for items that
are listed for auction. This allows those who do not wish to
read ads to filter them by killing articles that have FS or
FA in the Subject: line
3) The ad must NOT be crossposted and may not be posted more than
twice in a 30 day period.
4) HTML must not be posted (See above under General) but urls
pointing to web pages are permissable.
Basically, be sensible and all should be well.
Q: Where can I buy valves for my amp in the UK?
A: There are a number of excellent valve retailers around.
Watford Valves[1](http:/www.watfordvalves.com), HotRox[2]
(www.hotroxuk.com) and Wilson Valves[3] (wilson...@surflink.co.uk)
all offer valves tested and matched to match anything on the US
market and at a considerably lower cost.
Q: Where can I buy strings online
A: The following offer strings on line (in no particular order):
http://www.guitarstrings.co.uk
http://www.cheapstrings.co.uk
http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk
http://www.allstrungup.co.uk
http://www.stringbusters.com
http://www.highlystrung.net
http://www.regentguitars.co.uk
http://www.stringmaster.co.uk
Both Stringsdirect and Highlystrung also do double ended strings for
Steinberg/Hohner 'headless' guitars
Q: I need a new cable for my guitar/amp. What's best?
A: Stewart Ward of Award-Session writes:-
Cables are an important accessory to any electronic instrument.
However, many manufacturers use some pretty desparate tactics to
get you to buy theirs. Armed with the right information, you can
avoid wasting money on unecessary features.
Instrument leads look similar and it’s easy to become confused as to
which to buy, so here’s some guidelines from an electronics engineers
point of view, based on accepted technical facts.
Q: What does "low loss" mean? -
A: It is important to understand that all screened cables reduce the
high frequencies that pass along them. The longer the cable, the
more the loss. This is true of ANY make or type of screened cable.
Always select "low loss" cables for best performance when using
guitars or other similar instruments. However, it is less critical
when using leads on the outputs of effects processors, keyboards,
etc.
A good guitar cable will have an inter-conductor capacitance of 130pf
(pico farads) or less per metre. 6 metres is about the maximum
length for a lead used with passive guitar pickups. With passive
electro- acoustic guitar transducers you will need to keep guitar
leads to an absolute minimum length, otherwise treble will become
heavily lost!
Always fit a pre-amp to your electro-acoustic if you can. If your
guitar already has a pre-amp, then you can use leads as long as you
like without any problems or loss of tone.
Q: Can cables make my sound more "juicy"? -
A: No, cables cannot do this! The signal passing along a cable cannot
be improved, no matter what it's made from. Any such suggestion
should be viewed as a dishonest claim.
Q: What does "noiseless" mean? -
A: Some low cost cables, when used with guitars, can cause a crackling
sound when you move about. Noiseless cables have a special
conductive plastic layer inserted between the signal conductor and
the screening braid which removes this source of unwanted noise.
Q: Should I buy leads with gold plated plugs? -
A: Don't waste your money on "hyped" imported cables with gold plated
connectors. The thin soft gold (5-10 microns) "flash" plating looks
cool, but scrapes off easily. The brass material underneath
prevents you from seeing that the gold has worn off! That
brass eventually tarnishes and causes crackling when the plug
moves or twists in the socket contacts. Gold is a very good
conductor of electricity and helps to reduce contact resistance,
but only when mated with a gold plated socket. However, the
input socket inside your guitar amplifier is not usually gold,
so no real improvement would be made. Any improvement
from all contacts being gold plated would be so tiny as to be
un-detectable in this application.
Q: Are "moulded" jack plugs better? -
A: In some respects, but cables usually break just outside the plug
where the cable gets bent a lot. So, if this happens, you can't
open the plug to repair it and you’ll have to throw it away.
Q: Do I need special speaker cables? -
A: Yes, using instrument cables for connecting speakers is not
recommended. Very high currents pass along speaker cables, so
you need much thicker wire to handle it. Guitar lead conductors are
very thin and such use could result in damage to your cables. Power
reaching the speakers may be reduced as well.
Without a doubt, Neutrik connectors are the best in the business.
Nearly all the pros and top studios insist on them because they are so
rubust. I have no connection with that company except that I use them.
But watch out, there are many junk imported copies.
Like anything else, common sense rules... so try not to be fooled by
marketing hype, glossy adverts or music business mythology. Email me if
you have any specific questions.
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Care
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Q: Where can I buy a hard case for my guitar?
A: There are a number of suppliers offering different grades of
'hard cases' some of which are rather less 'hard' than one would
think!. Hiscox offer a large range of suitably tough cases for
most purposes as do SKB.
Q: But I want to take my guitar abroad on a plane?
A: Then you'll have to get a 'baggage-handler-proof' flight case.
Scottish Foam[4] (http://www.scottishfoam.co.uk) offer a wide
rage of flight and transit cases, for a variety of musical
instrument and equipment. RJ Flytes[5] also offer flight cases.
Repair and maintenance
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Q: Where can I buy parts such as pickups, replacement switches etc?
A: There are a number of suppliers, details of whom are listed at the
end of this FAQ. Brandoni[6] offer a wide range of replacement
switches pick ups, scratch plates, etc at reasonable prices.
Ask for their catalogue. Rainbow Products[7] offer similar
products but from the US manufacturer WD products as well as
the full range of Kent Armstrong pickups
(http://www.wdmusicproducts.com).
Q: I want to build my own electric guitar. Where can I get bits in
the UK?
A: There are a number of UK suppliers of musical instrument building
bits and pieces ranging from bare planks of wood, up to pre-machined
bodies and necks so, your ability will probably determine where
you go.
The best advice is to hang around rec.musc.makers.builders for
a while
to see what sort of special tools you might need and which you can
skip by using a cheaper substitute. Some you may have to import from
the US from the likes of Stewart-McDonald[8] supplies, others are
available from suppliers like David Dyke[9], Pincotts[11] or
Touchstone Tonewoods[10], here in the UK. But whatever you decide,
one thing is certain, you will need a good book as a reference and
none come more widely praised than Melvyn Hiscock's Build Your Own
Electric Guitar. It is an absolute 'must-have' for those thinking
about building their own electric guitar. Pre-machined bodies and
necks are available from Brandoni[6] but the necks need finishing
in terms of nut cutting and fret stoning. Highly Strung
(http://www.highlystrung.net/) are also a good online source
of parts.
Q: What's a truss rod and what does it do?
A: A truss rod is a metal bar that runs the length of the runs
the length of the neck of the guitar from roughly the nut to
where the neck meets the guitar body. Its purpose is to both
reinforce the neck against the pull of the strings and allow
adjustment to the neck in such a way as to allow the strings
to vibrate properly without hitting the frets.
Q: How do I adjust my truss rod?
A: With GREAT CARE and, unless you know what you are doing,
not at all and leave it to a luthier to do as part of the set up
process.
Q: How do I 'set up' my guitar?
A: Steve Cobham's site
(http://users.powernet.co.uk/guitars/setuptut.htm)
offers excellent advice on setting up your guitar. There is also
an excellent site at http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/pagelist.html
for those wishing to set up/repair/maintain acoustic instruments?
Q: My fingerboard has got all grotty and the frets are dull. How
should I clean it?
A: Adrian Foden has an excellent site that gives a step-by-step
illustrated account of how to get it back to tip top playing
condition.
http://www.ukjemfestjam.freeserve.co.uk/clean/fretboard.html
Q: I've blown a speaker in my bass rig. Where can I get help/advice?
A: Try having a word with the guys at Concert Systems in Altrincham,
0161 927 7700, they're usually pretty on the ball about these things.
Safety
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General: Amps get thrown around and mains leads get damaged.To protect
yourself from injury or fatal shock hazard, always check the lead before
use for small nicks exposing the live conductors and ensure that the
plug is securely fitted. Moulded leads are better than rewireable plugs.
If it is damaged, throw it away and buy a new one - do not try and
repair a moulded lead.
Q: How do I protect myself from electric shock?
A: Use an RCD
Q: What's an RCD? Where do I get one? How do I use it?
A: Residual Current Device. It's a circuit breaker that measures
the current going in through the line of the mains and compares
it with that going out on the neutral. If all is well, they
should be the same. If not, someone is being electrocuted or there
is a leakage somewhere and it shuts off the power before the current
rises to a fatal level.. They are usually used with things like
electric lawnmowers, hedge cutters and power tools and you'll
get them at any DIY or gardening store. They are not foolproof
but will get most potentially lethal electrical faults. It looks
like a 3-pin adapter. Just plug it in and plug you amp into it
and that's it!
SAVE YOUR LIFE FOR LESS THAN 20 POUNDS!!
Teaching/Lessons
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Q: I want to learn guitar from a teacher. What should I look out for?
Here's a few general thoughts and pointers.
To find a teacher look in the local paper and magazines. Also look on
the noticeboard in music shops. Don't forget that personal
recommendation is often a good indication of a teacher's reputation.
There's also the Registry of Guitar Teachers, but I don't have any
contact info to hand. Keep your eyes peeled on the www and in the
relevant ngs.
Shop around. If possible, take a trial lesson and if you don't think
that you'll get on with the teacher, look elsewhere. It's extremely
important to have a good relationship with each other.
As well as this, think carefully if the teacher's approach is right
for you. If you want to learn to strum Oasis songs and the teacher
insists that you start off by learning the major scale in all its
positions you'll get bored very, very quickly. Likewise, if you want
to learn to play by reading music and he tries to steer you away from
this course, think again.
Look for a teacher who is well-prepared and not too casual. The "What
shall we do today?" approach often indicates a lack of preparation and
puts the onus on you to think what to do. That's part of the teacher's
job and what you're paying him for. He should be offering you some
sort of structured approach and not just merely filling up the time
with whatever he fancies doing that day.
What qualifications does the teacher have? If none, what experience?
Anybody can set themselves up as teacher, but that doesn't necessarily
mean that they can teach as well as play.
Fees vary very considerably and it's impossible to give any figure for
guidance. Price is not always a reflection of the teacher's ability.
You may well find that the cheaper of two teachers is better for you.
Perhaps not. As suggested above - shop around.
If you do get a good teacher who adopts a professional approach
towards you and your development as a guitarist, remember to treat him
accordingly. If you have to cancel a lesson then give him the notice
he requires. If he's professional he'll extend the same courtesy
towards you. Many teachers have "waiting lists" and can fill your
"slot" very easily. Establishing some sort of ground rules between the
two of you helps to clarify the business side of the relationship.
Above all, learning to play the guitar - any musical instrument -
should be fun as well as personally rewarding. If you're not enjoying
your lessons, that particular teacher may not be the right one for
you.
Playing
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Q: Where can I find the tab for [name your artist]?
A: Long ago there used to be a tab archive site called OLGA. It has
been partially closed down due to dispute over copyright, however
remnants of it still remain. Check at Harmony-Central and follow the
guitar related links to tablature. Alternatively, you could try
alt.guitar.tab or rec.music.makers.tablature or a web based search
such as http://www.tabcrawler.com/search/
Q: How do I do a digital recording on my PC?
A: John Rimmer offers an excellent introduction on his web pages
http://www.crazy-train.com/record.htm Also
http://home.earthlink.net/~rongonz/home_rec/ offers a comprehensive
guide to many aspects of computer based home recording
Q: How do I go about recording an acoustic guitar?
A: These two sites give useful information on how to set up
for recording:
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/aug01/articles/recacgtr0801.asp
http://www.harmony-central.com/Features/FRecAcousticGtr/
Q: What is alternative tuning?
A: Standard tuning on guitars is EADGBE but there are other possibilities
which can change the entire timbre of the guitar. Naturally chord
shapes are a little different but alternative tuning can open a whole
range of possibilities for both the fingerstyle acoustic and electric
guitar player. One of the simplest is known as the dropped D tuning.
In this tuning, the bass E string is simply detuned down a tone to D.
A common alternative tuning is DADGAD, so named because that is how
the strings are tuned! This tuning is quite commonly used by
fingerstyle guitarists. A more unusual tuning is Nashville tuning.
In this tuning, standard tuning of EADGBE is used, but the three
bass strings are tuned an octave higher. Obviously this means you
need thinner guage strings for the three bass strings to avoid
breaking them and putting an unneccessary strain on the guitar neck.
There are lots of other tuning possibilities worth trying out to
expand your playing. Try them and see! A good list of alternative
tunings can be found at
www.consult-eco.ndirect.co.uk/guitar/tunings.htm
Q. What is Widdlefest?
A Widdlefest is an occassional event in which the readers are invited
to submit a sample of them playing over a standard backing track
(usually about 30 - 45 secs long). This is then 'bolted' together
to form a performance piece. Further details on how to enter and
what format to use and tips on recording can be found at :
http://www.basketcase.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ukmg.htm
Q. Is there an online chat room for the group?
A. Mike Whitaker has set up an IRC channel. Go to
http://www.ukmg.org.uk/launch.html
Mike also wrote the following FAQ on using it and setting up a
proper IRC client, rather than the web based client.
I'll reiterate a few things I've said on channel, since they seem
to crop up commonly:
Q: The web client at http://www.ukmg.org.uk/launch.html is crap, isn't
it?
A: Absolutely. I never said it wasn't. But the point is, it can get
folks
online without an IRC client program, just a web browser. And once
we've
got you... Seriously, though: I'd recommend downloading a decent
client,
if your office firewall'll let you, rather than sticking with the web
client.
Q: Where can I get a decent client?
A: If you're using Windows, try mIRC (http://www.mirc.com/) - if you're
using a Mac, there's Snak (http://www.snak.com/Snak.html) or IRCle
(http://www.ircle.com/). For general pointers, try
http://www.irchelp.org/
Q: How do I set my client up?
A: You need to add a new server, if your client comes with a
preconfigured
list. The server name is andor.altrion.org, you're connecting to port
6667, and you want to join channel #ukmg.
Q: Why did I get kicked off by SocksCleaner as soon as I connected with
mIRC/Snak/IRCle?
A: Ahah! Sounds like your office is running an insecure firewall which
allows people to connect through it from outside. This is a commonly
exploitable means of concealing your identity on an IRC server, so we
don't allow it. Drop me a mail, and I'll talk you through what to
tell
your sysadmin or how to work round it.
Q: Who_are_ these people?
A: Most of the nicknames are reasonably obvious. I'm Penfold, or
Penf<something>, for historical reasons: the rest I'll leave to
announce
themselves if they wish to. ChanServ is a 'bot that keeps the channel
open
and ensures I or others can get channel operator status should we
need it.
If a person's nickname isn't obvious, your IRC client will probably
have
a "whois" feature - click on that and you'll see more information
about
that person.
Q: How do I do the - Penfold drinks more beer thing?
A: Type: /me drinks more beer.
Q: Why is no-one talking to me?
A: Two possible reasons: a) the web client is prone to lose half its
connection, so ytou can send stuff but not receive it. b) people do
tend
to idle online while doing other things. I'm_always_ on, because I
have a
24x7 connection (which is how I host the server) and my work requires
me
to use IRC as a virtual office, but I can be asleep or working in
another
window. Be patient: I tend to check the IRC client every 5 or 10
minutes
when I'm at the computer.
Q: Are there any channel rules?
A: It's my server, so I make the rules. I'd rather not have any, but
past
experience with bigger networks suggest that a set of rules one can
point
at make removing undesirables less painful: these boil down to:
- No open proxies: we have a bot, SocksCleaner, which will scan your
machine once when you connect to see if you are running an insecure
SOCKS
proxy. If you are, your client will be /kill-ed. The reason? IRCing
on an
insecure SOCKS proxy is a woefully common cracker trick: if you are a
legitimate user, it's in your interest to secure your proxy anyway,
so
crackers and other kiddies can't misuse your machine. [This scan will
originate from sotalin.altrion.org, targetted at port 1080 on your
machine: it is NOT a breakin attempt, merely a security measure.] If
you
need to learn how to secure your system, ask the admin.
- No mass advertising: if you flood everyone with a /msg or /notice,
you
will be /kill-ed, and /kline-ed for any repeat offence.
- No porn, warez or pirate MP3 channels: channels which clearly
advertise
any of the above, and thus imply that the server/network endorses
such
behaviour, will be shut down. Users who persist in breaking this rule
will
be /kill-ed, and /kline-ed for any repeat offence.
- No denial-of-service, harassment or abusive behaviour: ping/CTCP
flooding of users, harassment by public or private means, or any
other
abuse of the network or its users will result in the offender being
/kill-ed, and /kline-ed for any repeat offence.
ALL breaches of policy will be reported to the offender's
sysadmin/ISP.
The network is _not_ a democracy, it's a benevolent dictatorship.
In short: treat it like uk.music.guitar and we'll all be fine.
Q: So where is the server?
A: In my hall cupboard, the other end of 20' of Ethernet cable from me,
and a 128K leased line (thanks, work) from the rest of the world.
It's
also the ukmg.org.uk server, and my own web and mail server.
Fortunately,
it doesn't use much bandwidth, and my router is configured so work
traffic
gets a look in first.
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Contacts:
[1] Watford Valves, 3 Ryall Close, Bricket Wood, St Albans AL2 3TS
Tel: 01923-893-270 [http://www.watfordvalves.com]
[2] Hot Rox Valves, 10 Avondale Road, Carlton, Nottingham NG4 1AF
Tel: 01159-873-163 [http://www.hotroxuk.com]
[3] Wilson Valves 28 Banks Ave., Golcar Huddersfield HD7 4LZ
Tel: 01484-654-650 [email: wilson...@surflink.co.uk]
[4]Scottish Foam 7/8 Bleasdale Court, Clydebank Business Pk, Clydebank
G81 2LE Tel: 01419-511-503 [http://www.scottishfoam.co.uk]
[5] R J Flytes Kettering, Northants. Tel: 01536-723-451
[6] Brandoni Music, Unit 3.6, Wembley Commercial Centre, East Lane
Wembley Middx HA9 7XJ. Tel: 020-8908-2323
[7] WD Products (Formerly Rainbow), Unit31, Old Surrenden Manor,
Bethersden, Kent TN26 3DL Tel: 01233 820 082
[8] Stewart McDonald's Guitar Supply Shop, Box 900-GT, Athens,
OH 45701, USA. [http://www.stewmac.com]
[9]David Dyke Luthiers Supplies, The Hall, Horebeech Lane, Horam,
Heathfield, East Susse TN21 0HR. Tel: 01435 812315
[10] Touchstone Tonewoods 44 Albert Road North, Reigate RH2 9EZ
Tel: 01737 221 064
[11} Pincotts - Parts for Guitars, 35 Jackson Court, Hazlemere, High
Wycombe
Buckinghamshire HP15 7TZ Tel: 0870 4423336
[12] Award-Session - 34 Belvedere, Basingstoke, RG24 8GB
Tel: 01256 477 222 [email: sa...@radius-intl.demon.co.uk]
Any hints, suggestions, corrections etc are gratefully received
at either of the two mail addresses in the copyright notice below
or posted to the group and will be acknowledged in the contributors
list. Become famous, see you name up in ..err...text and contribute!!
A great many people have contributed to the creation of this FAQ. The
following are just a few: Dave Morning(dam[at]dcs.gla.ac.uk), Timothy N
Nurse(tnnurse99[at]hotmail.com), Gary Wright
(gary[at]garang.freeserve.co.uk-nospam),
Steve Cobham (steve[at]guitars.powernet.co.uk), Kevin Place
(Kev.Place[at]mythagowood.demon.co.uk), John Rimmer
(john.s.rimmer[at]umist.ac.uk), Ian
Spencer(JustForNewsgroups[at]tesco.net),
Jon Boyes (mail[at]jonboyes.co.uk), Ross Edwards
(REdward[at]freshfields.com),
David Galbraith (lsbs-ics[at]clara.co.uk) Tiffany Tractor
(ttractor[at]NOSPAM.usa.net), Adrian Clark (mail link via website
http://www.spaghetti-factory.co.uk), Nick Swift
(nick[at]heaton44.freeserve.co.uk), Steve Dix (steve[at]stevedix.de),
Mike Whitaker: mike[at]altrion.org, Stewart Ward
(stewart[at]radius-intl.demon.co.uk)
Copyright:
This FAQ is copyright (c) Dave Morning (dam[at]dcs.gla.ac.uk)
and Timothy N. Nurse (tnnurse99[at]hotmail.com). It may be
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Paul Creedy
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
>
Hope we'll see you at a National or two Dave, and good luck with
whatever you're doing next.
Paul.
Adrian Clark
<tnnurseNOUCE99-BABBE2.11111624042006@122.0/25.134.80.194.in-addr.arpa>,
T N Nurse <tnnurse...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
Blimey! Good luck with whatever comes next (net access from home,
perhaps?)
Maybe we should rename it the Rev Nurse Memorial UKMG FAQ. I think we
should have a fountain with the FAQ inscribed in stone ;-)
adrian
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Steve at fivetrees
news:sfocata-BBDB91...@usenet.force9.net...
>
> Maybe we should rename it the Rev Nurse Memorial UKMG FAQ. I think we
> should have a fountain with the FAQ inscribed in stone ;-)
It would have to leak and be a safety hazard - it's traditional.
George Weston
"Steve at fivetrees" <st...@NOSPAMTAfivetrees.com> wrote in message
news:6b-dnYzVQtT...@pipex.net...
> It would have to leak and be a safety hazard
>
> http://www.fivetrees.com
Oi - you talkin' abaht me?
;-)
George
Paul Simpson
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
Aw *man* - there goes one of the original ukmg contributers, right
there. Original in the sense of 'been here since the start', and
original in the sense of doing piratey arrngements of Eric Johnson tunes
and Taliban-tastic jazz quintets.
Hope you get sorted with your next job/thing/whatever in no short order
and maybe net access from home, and hope to see you at future pu's.
Cheers!
--
Paul
Ivar Arnesen
"Paul Simpson" <p_r_s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:444d11c9$0$202$db0f...@news.zen.co.uk...
Well I fullheartedly agree,
and checking Ryanair, I can imagine a Scottish PU with me attending,
if only to buy TNN a beer or ten.
Here's to you!
Ivar
Steve Cobham
<tnnurse...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>And now..the end is near.
>Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
>may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
>and with it, goes my net access.
>
>So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
>worked the strings.
All the best in whatever you're doing next! :)
The Old Guard are dwindling................
Many thanks for the FAQ - which must continue if only so we can tell
people asking about shipping a guitar in from Usania that it's "IN THE
FAQING FAQ!"
Steve.
nog
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
I hope the absence turns out only to be temporary, Dave - we need you, and
your considerable knowledge on matters guitar and leccy.
--
Peter
Justin Otto
T N Nurse wrote:
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
As a man who once said to me, "Usenet is all about entertainment" - I
can assure you that you never failed to amuse, educate and entertain
me.
I shall expect you to pop by now and again in various silly disguises.
;-)
Be seeing you, mate.
J.
john
> T N Nurse wrote:
> > And now..the end is near.
> > Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> > may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> > and with it, goes my net access.
> >
> > So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> > worked the strings.
>
(lurking more than participating) i would like to wish you all the best in
the future too.
Good luck!
John
DanTXD
news:tnnurseNOUCE99-BABBE2.11111624042006@122.0/25.134.80.194.in-addr.arpa...
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
>
I haven't been here very long, but that's definately a shame! Have you
considered net access at home...?
Take care and good luck :)
--
Dan
Andy Dempster
news:tnnurseNOUCE99-BABBE2.11111624042006@122.0/25.134.80.194.in-addr.arpa...
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
Well I said good riddance to bad rubbish, nothing but a spamming, attention
seeker! ;)
Cheers mate, good luck in whatever you do - get a good ISP and get back here
soon - you will be missed. Hope to Penguin Cafe with you again at the next
PU...
Andy_D
adrianfoden
T N Nurse wrote:
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
Eek! Does this mean no more Barry Scott? Who will protect us from
heinous breaches of etiquette? ;) I fear an onslaught of top posting
in the post TNN world!
My thanks for your contributions, ownership of the FAQ and best wishes
for a post-work, no-internet life.
On to pressing matters... the stewardship & maintenance of the UKMG
FAQ. It'd be a shame to let it fall by the wayside. It does contain
some useful stuff and could probably do with a little refresh.
Volunteers/Nominees?
Adrian Clark
"adrianfoden" <adria...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On to pressing matters... the stewardship & maintenance of the UKMG
> FAQ. It'd be a shame to let it fall by the wayside. It does contain
> some useful stuff and could probably do with a little refresh.
>
> Volunteers/Nominees?
>
Excellent! Well done, Fod... I'm sure the FAQ will be safe in your
capable hands. I'm glad we got that sorted so quickly.
Paul Simpson
> In article <1145954204....@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
> "adrianfoden" <adria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On to pressing matters... the stewardship & maintenance of the UKMG
>>FAQ. It'd be a shame to let it fall by the wayside. It does contain
>>some useful stuff and could probably do with a little refresh.
>>
>>Volunteers/Nominees?
>>
>
>
> Excellent! Well done, Fod... I'm sure the FAQ will be safe in your
> capable hands. I'm glad we got that sorted so quickly.
>
> ;-)
>
>
> adrian
>
Seconded, Mr. Chairman!
*thunk*
...And that concludes the AGM, sandwiches and custard are available in
the bar, Reg is having a lock in for us.
--
Paul
Frank A Muller
> And now..the end is near.
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave.
Well that's a real shame. Thanks for all the entertainment and elctronics
advice, Dave. All of that electrickery stuff went right over my head, but I
read it anyway...
I hope you and Tiffany Tractor settle down in a nice cosy crofter's cottage
somewhere in the Scottish highlands.
Top posters, form a disorderly queue right over here.
Frank A Muller
Steve Dix
Oh *NO*... Didn't someone warn Reg about Adrian and Custard?!!
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Andrew
"T N Nurse" <tnnurse...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tnnurseNOUCE99-BABBE2.11111624042006@122.0/25.134.80.194.in-addr.arpa...
> Finally, after 20 years on the net, I take my leave. As some of you
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
>
>
That's a shame, I hope you can get net access at home (laptops £499 at PC
World) and continue to be an active member of the NG. All the best for the
future.
Andrew(lefty)
Jools
"Tiffany Tractor" <tif...@tractor.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97B1CE96D...@62.253.170.163...
> "Frank A Muller" <famu...@work.in.australia> wrote in
> news:444ebb34$0$30708$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>
>>
>> I hope you and Tiffany Tractor settle down in a nice cosy crofter's
>> cottage somewhere in the Scottish highlands.
>
>
Ah, the sound of spandex rustling in the glens.
J
Al
> may know, I leave my job for the past 21 years at the end of this week
> and with it, goes my net access.
>
> So, it's goodbye from me TNN, and it's goodbye from him, the guy that
> worked the strings.
Sorry to see you go :-( The UKMG FAQ is/was always useful.
I'd be happy to post regular updates if required, and keep the FAQ up to
date with submissions from fellow UKMGers.
I guess that if nobody runs with this we'll lose a great source of info, so
maybe someone here should post the FAQ on a regular basis?
Al.