Thanks in advance!
José Luís Agapito
> It would be great if anybody could give me some hints...
Some people can tell the differences and some can't. Obviously, if
someone cannot tell the difference then there is no sense in that
person paying the difference in price. So, bottom line, only José can
decide if the difference is worth it for José.
Some of the Mexican Starts that I have looked over in stores are a
great value. But so are the American made Strats a great value ..._IF_
you can tell the difference. ;o)
> It would be great if anybody could give me some hints...
Some people can tell the differences and some can't. Obviously, if
>On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:10:40 +0100, "José Luís Agapito"
><ze.ag...@netc.pt> wrote:
>Some of the Mexican Starts that I have looked over in stores are a
>great value.
A mexican Start? Is that anything like a mexican standoff?
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"José Luís Agapito" wrote:
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I think absolute statements such as these are very very misleading.
There are lots of very nice mexican strats... I agree some may have
faults, but those should be a minority and you should notice before you
buy, or get it fixed/replaced under your warranty. But most would be
"mechanically sound". And hey, the feeling you get from a particular
guitar is a bit subjective, so it comes down to trying it for yourself
and see. My brother wouldn't touch my Gordon Smith GS1 with a 10 ft
stick, and I just loved it...
Jose, owner of a nice mexican strat, minus the hat
PS: by the way, how do you *blow* a pot?
"Jose I. de las Heras" wrote:
>
>
> PS: by the way, how do you *blow* a pot?
by playing too loud, silly :)
Mike
so, it's not done like this, then? :-o
(puts face like blowing the candles on his birthday cake...)
Jose, quickly running away
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"Jose I. de las Heras" wrote:
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Jeff
P&R wrote:
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By reading your statements I can see that there´s a big variety of
oppinions, there are guys that think that the Mexican Strat is crap, and
otherwise people saying that it´s a must... So I followed some of your
advices, and went to the music store again to check the American and the
Mexican Strat.
After being there for more than one hour (I think if I stayed a little
longer the owner would kick me off the store : p), I´ve made my choice (and
the winner is...). I think that the difference between the Mexican Strat and
my Pacifica, isn´t big enought to buy the Mex Strat.
The American Strat... well it´s from another dimmension, and I must say that
for the price, it´s worth buying! Since I play with my fingers, I think that
on the American Strat you can get that "human touch" that´s not so easily
heard on the Mexican, and the finish and hardware are really good on the
American Strat, way ahead the Mex. Otherwise, one think that worried me is
the future complications that can appear on the guitar (neck problems,
intonation problems, electrical failures...), and I think that the American
Strat looks more relliable, and less propicious to problems in the future.
So I think I´ll wait to see my bank account growing something more, and then
I´ll buy the American Strat (three colour sunburst is my favorite...).
Once again thank you for your advices, and keep rocking on!
José Luís Agapito
Then play it till it is worn out.
Julian the second
--
Junior Mctavish Allstars
~~~
> I know I'm probably offending a lot of people who bought these guitars, but
>people need to wake up and realize the Fender name is no longer a guaranty of a
>quality guitar.
It never was...you always had to be picky when buying a Fender, I remember
seeing some horrors back in the '60/'70s. There was a rumour at one time
that Fender shipped all the junkers over here to the UK and kept the best
for US customers...
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr st...@dial.pipex.com
The future was never like this!
snip of good setup advice....
>
> Julian the second
>
It must be in the name - I also purchased a bright blue mexi-strat, had it
professionally setup & loved it. I recently bought from a UKMGer a Seymour
Duncan hotrails for the bridge (it had a single coil initially). Great
sounds!
Thinking about getting it re-setup, as I now use heavier strings. Also
considering a stoptail, as I don't do whammy......
Cheers
Julian (the first?)
Congratulations... you're the latest victim of GAS! :-)
enjoy your guitar! (three color sunburst... nice!)
Jose
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> I borrowed a Mexican Strat from a friend for a weekend recently, and loved
> it. I have a Yamaha 312, which is basically a flashier 112. The Fender was
> well built, somewhat heavier than the Yam, had a beautiful creamy sound on
> the neck PU. It seemed well built, at least as good as the Yam, and I
> quite fancy one. However I'm a tad concerned about the other postings here
> about the Mex Strats. Perhaps you have to be careful when buying.
I think ultimately, barring reliability issues other owners bring to light
that you can't know at time of purchase, the only criterion that won't
drive you crazy is 'do I like it enough to want to own it?'.
--
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Are you sure they were MIM Strat's in the Strat pack? Strat Packs usually
contain Squier "Affinity" Strats (either Korean or Chinese...not sure).
Yes, the quality on those instruments is pretty questionable.
MIM Strat Packs generally come with Blues Junior amps, have either the 50's
or 60's "Vintage" Strat and cost about $850. If you've had 50 students
spending that much on their initial rigs, you live in a LOT better
neighborhood than I do. The Squier Strat package goes for about $230...a
MIM Standard Strat alone goes for about $320.
I guess my standards aren't as high as you guys. I'm pretty impressed with
the MIM stuff on a value-for-money basis, and have only found a few very
minor (and correctable) QC issues among the dozens that I've played. There
*have* been setup issues...but I've certainly seen lots of $1000 plus
instruments leave the store with lousy setups as well. My main gigging
instrument is a MIM Telecaster Thinline which I've played for about almost 2
years...it's been a great axe.
American Series Strats are nice...but the difference is mainly down to the
component pieces, not quality control. There's nothing wrong with the Made
in Mexico instruments.
--
Michael Pugh
>
>I have one of those bright sickly blue Mexi-Strats, it's a couple of years
>old now.
snip
>So what I would say is, if you see a Mexi-Strat and you like the colour,
Herein lies my biggest prob with the Standard line, color, or LACK of
it, just AWFUL choices. They should call it the Model T line. That
blue is hideous, midnight wine might be the best of em and it's almost
black.
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Trombone, Euphonium, Keyboard,
Guitar Player, and Mandolin Player wanna be.
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thanks,
Susie
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> The guys at Diapasão are chulos!
> Experimenta na Loja de Musica do Centro Comercial de Alverca (Naspauder) e
> vê outras marcas...
> Mas Experimenta! Às vezes o som Fender está noutras guitarras + baratas!
>
> Sharkman
>
> (Sorry for posting a message in portuguese... but we're both portuguese,
> so...)
>
> José Luís Agapito wrote in message <9gq84u$j86$1...@venus.telepac.pt>...
If you find a guitar guru who knows everything about fender or guitars in
general ask him about it.. and i would get the serials of those models and
try to get one!!
;-)
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ALL Fender guitars from '65-78 or so (whenever the era that CBS owned
Fender) were pretty much crap...I'm surprised that Fender has a
"Vintage" series from that era.
Steve Denison wrote:
>
>
> ALL Fender guitars from '65-78 or so (whenever the era that CBS owned
> Fender) were pretty much crap...I'm surprised that Fender has a
> "Vintage" series from that era.
This is a load of crap. I've had two preCBS Tele's a 90's Tele, and a 74
Tele and the 74 was the best of the bunch. As well I had a 71 Precission
that I deeply regret parting with. I've never found another bass that
matched it's tone. The only people who disparage the CBS stuff are elitist
collectors who spend more time on resale values than actual playability and
tone, and people who regurgitate whatever they hear.
Jeff
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BJ
Bryan Pilgrim
>I am going to purchase a new MIM
> Strat as soon as I get the time and the cash together!!
>
> Bryan Pilgrim
Interesting thought. It's possible that the MIM fenders are going to be as
interesting in 10-20 year's time as the USA ones are now. Certainly the
build quality will be as good, and as variable....
P
Jay S.
That's interesting - what's a TUSQ nut? If I made the same changes to my
Squier, would they improve it? Or do I have to go down the road with pickups
as well?
Pete
Jeff Vasey wrote:
>
> The only people who disparage the CBS stuff are elitist
> collectors who spend more time on resale values than actual playability and
> tone, and people who regurgitate whatever they hear.
> Jeff
>
I take offense. Real PLAYERS disparage the crap that Fender/CBS
made...if you got more than one playable axe from that era, you're one
fucking lucky person who should be playing the Lotto. I've owned 5
Strats from that era and never got ONE that was playable. Never kept
any of them for more than a few months. The Ibanez Challenger's of that
time frame were closer to a real Strat than anything Fender made at the
time...hence Fender's eventual lawsuit; and subsequent start of their
"vintage" series guitars...which basically saved Fender's reputation
Steve Denison wrote:
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Why did you buy 5 guitars that weren't playable? Did you play them before
you bought them?
>
> Why did you buy 5 guitars that weren't playable? Did you play them before
> you bought them?
There's a world of difference between playing a guitar in the store for
an hour or two with a salesman breathing down your neck & 10 other guys
around the store causing a big cacophony, and playing them 6 nights a
week, 6 hrs a night in a working situation. Just kept trying until I
gave up on Strats from 74 to 83 and switched to a Les Paul. When Fender
came out with the Vintage Reissue series in 1983, I had to break down &
get one...that 1957 Reissue was the best Strat I've ever played in my
life, they don't make the necks with that radical of a "V" neck anymore
(except on the Clapton Signature model); plus they put twice the varnish
on the neck as they did. In the year and half I owned it, I got down to
bare wood on the fretboard, whereas after 10 years on my current Strat I
haven't even come close to bare wood...wonder if I ever will. Anyway, I
hope the son-of-a-bitch that broke into my apartment in 1985 and stole
it gets arthritis so bad he can't hold a pen to sign his name, much less
play a guitar. Anyway, I digress. I've had 5 Strats since then (not all
57 reissues though, so a comparison is kind of moot), and none have had
the same feel as that one...close but there's just that "something"
missing. My main guitar however is a Turner Model 1 (aka "The Lindsey
Buckingham guitar"). Now there's a versatile, well-made guitar...but,
still need a Strat, since its the only guitar to get that authentic
"Strat" sound (like Knopfler & Clapton)