Early Schecter stratocaster
Geppo
Cliff
> is it original ??????
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120213260874
Someone has done a rough job of cleaning-up that brass scratchplate
and the soldering looks a bit untidy. I've only seen pictures of
schecter strats with five way switches but, I don't know, the early
ones may of had toggles switches. They certainly had models with just
one tone and one volume and I have seen others with brass
scatchplates.
Cliff
Al
As a 'complete' Schecter-made guitar? Probably not, as they didn't start
making complete guitars until 1989 apparently. Unless it was a prototype or
a demonstrator for a trade show.
My guess is that it's build from Schecter bits. Mostly. The scratchplate
looks really rough, and the trem cover looks brand new, but the body and
neck are probably original.
Al.
Ivar Arnesen
"Al" <alne...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > is it original ??????
>
> As a 'complete' Schecter-made guitar? Probably not, as they didn't start
> making complete guitars until 1989 apparently. Unless it was a prototype
or
> a demonstrator for a trade show.
I think you are wrong Al,
I've personally worked on a "one owner only" Schecter "Mercury" Strat from
1982,
guaranteed to be all-original.
BTW, here's one from about the same time:
http://www.minegitarer.com/images/newer/Schecter_USA_Mercury_1985.jpg
Ivar
Al
>> start making complete guitars until 1989 apparently. Unless it was a
>> prototype
> or
>> a demonstrator for a trade show.
>
> I think you are wrong Al,
Quite possibly :-) I thought that complete Schecters were available before
then, but couldn't find anything to support it.
I still wonder if early ones are genuine 'production' instruments though,
rather than one-offs (possibly factory-made) for individuals.
Al.
mrstef...@hotmail.co.uk
Hi Cliff.
Yes the guitar is original, this is a "real" Schecter Strat Tom
Anderson made, the pickups are the original Schecter F500T tapped
pickups by Tom Anderson, and NOT the later Schecter monstertone which
were ceramic.
This guitar features the look of a real Schecter, "the Schecter look"
is the two knobs and 3 mini toggles, after Schecter was sold to a
bussinessman in Dallas in 1985 the quality became crap and they also
started using a 5 way switch and put the pickup tap on the tone push/
pull. The proper Tom Anderson Schecters didn't use a push/pull to tap
the pickups (even though Schecter invented the push/pull pot AKA
Schecter omni pot), they had a better system then - 3 mini toggles,
each was 3 way, up=coil tap, middle=off, down=full coil about 14k, so
not only can you have any combination of pickups on BUT you can have
any combination of on, off, full, tap, for example neck tap=thinner
sound, bridge on=full coil, about 36 combinations, this IS what a
Schecter is all about, quality that even now now other company can
match.
Those switches are GOLDDUST, they are but a make that no longer exists
called JBT, the dress nuts are like collars around the switches
instead the usual nuts - these cannot be bought, and after a 20 year
search I found someone in Germany who had 3 spare ones. The pots used
most were Allen Bradley which look different to thoses in the photo
but others were used +CTS etc. The brass pickguards are VERY Schecter,
one of Mark Knopflers had this seem loaded pickguard.
They used lots of exotic woods never used before or since for guitars,
they sometimes used one piece rosewood necks etc, the birdseye they
used was like quilt maple and all this in the late 70's when Fender
was almost at its lowest point.
Schecter was sold again in the late 80's, back to an enthusiast on
California who took the boutique quality back up, not as far as it was
in the begining but better than Dallas.
.
Schecter started building whole guitars in 1979, all Mark Knopfler's
Schecter strats (the most famous Schecter player by miles) were stock
guitars.
The guitars made from parts were put todether by luthiers in the
Schecter shops, so you choose you parts in a catalogue and they were
ordered, when they arrived the shop built up the guitar and gave you a
guarantee, only about 20 shop in the US were authourised to do it and
only ONE shop in the UK =Chandlers in Kew, London.
These non factory guitars had a decal applied by the shop, a parts
Schecter by Chandle has got a Chandler decal on the ball of the
headstock, a crappy Dallas Schecter has got a "TM" after the word
Schecter, but there all lots of ways to tell.
EVERYTHING about this guitar screams original Schecter to me apart
from the lack of a serial number on the neck plate, I think the neck
plate and also the back plate have been replaced.
The pickup wires are usually purple, yellow, and black on each pickup,
but I can see they are F500T anyway.
Cliff
> On 21 Jan, 16:21, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 21 Jan, 14:28, "Geppo" <jepp> wrote:
>
> > > is it original ??????
> > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120213260874
>
> > Someone has done a rough job of cleaning-up that brass scratchplate
> > and the soldering looks a bit untidy. I've only seen pictures of
> > ones may of had toggles switches. They certainly had models with just
> > one tone and one volume and I have seen others with brass
> > scatchplates.
>
> > Cliff
>
> Hi Cliff.
> Anderson made, the pickups are the originalSchecterF500T tapped
> pickups by Tom Anderson, and NOT the laterSchectermonstertone which
> were ceramic.
> This guitar features the look of a realSchecter, "theSchecterlook"
> bussinessman in Dallas in 1985 the quality became crap and they also
> started using a 5 way switch and put the pickup tap on the tone push/
> pull. The proper Tom Anderson Schecters didn't use a push/pull to tap
> each was 3 way, up=coil tap, middle=off, down=full coil about 14k, so
> not only can you have any combination of pickups on BUT you can have
> any combination of on, off, full, tap, for example neck tap=thinner
> match.
> Those switches are GOLDDUST, they are but a make that no longer exists
> called JBT, the dress nuts are like collars around the switches
> instead the usual nuts - these cannot be bought, and after a 20 year
> search I found someone in Germany who had 3 spare ones. The pots used
> most were Allen Bradley which look different to thoses in the photo
> but others were used +CTS etc. The brass pickguards are VERYSchecter,
> one of Mark Knopflers had this seem loaded pickguard.
> They used lots of exotic woods never used before or since for guitars,
> they sometimes used one piece rosewood necks etc, the birdseye they
> used was like quilt maple and all this in the late 70's when Fender
> California who took the boutique quality back up, not as far as it was
> in the begining but better than Dallas.
> guitars.
> The guitars made from parts were put todether by luthiers in theSchectershops, so you choose you parts in a catalogue and they were
> ordered, when they arrived the shop built up the guitar and gave you a
> guarantee, only about 20 shop in the US were authourised to do it and
> only ONE shop in the UK =Chandlers in Kew, London.
> headstock, a crappy DallasSchecterhas got a "TM" after the wordSchecter, but there all lots of ways to tell.
> EVERYTHING about this guitar screams originalSchecterto me apart
> from the lack of a serial number on the neck plate, I think the neck
> plate and also the back plate have been replaced.
> The pickup wires are usually purple, yellow, and black on each pickup,
> but I can see they are F500T anyway.
Lot of Info in that reply. You're obviously the guy to ask when it
comes to Schecters. I've seen one of the models used by Knofler and a
couple of teles used by Pete Townsend. The Knofler Schecter Strat had
a five way switch though but, still only one volume and one tone.
Looks like the answer to Geppo's question is a definate yes.
Cliff
icarusi
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> Those switches are GOLDDUST, they are but a make that no longer exists
> called JBT, the dress nuts are like collars around the switches
> instead the usual nuts - these cannot be bought, and after a 20 year
> search I found someone in Germany who had 3 spare ones.
I found some mini-toggles on some scrap security circuit boards and the nuts
are like cone shaped collars with 2 purchase slots.
I also have a 'by Schecter' guitar which has 3 mini-toggles and a locking
'blade' style trem unit with fine tuners I've only seen on early Musicman
guitars, although it has the Schecter name cast into the fixed part.
icarusi
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> is it original ??????
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120213260874
DC
Can't help with any technical spec's though :O)
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DC
>Hi...know it was a while back but did you still want to see some pics?
DC
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