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Tony J

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Jan 11, 2003, 5:26:45 AM1/11/03
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Hi Guys

Some years ago...over 30 to be more accurate, I wrote quite a bit of
material that always seemed to sound the same to me, but the last few months
I have re-recorded a few songs and id like to get an un-biased view from you
guys...you can be brutal, kind whatever...it can be no worse than Ive had
from my kids...both guitar players.

Anyway here is the first link..hope it works

http://www.slickricks.co.uk/01-Country%20Song1.mp3

I played all instruments bar banjo and keys, both done by old muckers of
mine...drums i programmed via live loops into Cubase 5, the rest was
recorded onto tape the old fashioned way!


Tony J


Tony J

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Jan 11, 2003, 5:41:37 AM1/11/03
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For those of you interested:

Guitar used was Tom Anderson hollow classic played direct into Fender
Prosonic slightly dirtied up! Any compression was added at mixdown.

Tony J

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Justin Otto

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:08:17 AM1/11/03
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"Tony J" wrote

> Some years ago...over 30 to be more accurate,

...and therefore acceptable to be soullessly re-hashed by manufactured pop
brats...

> I wrote quite a bit of material that always seemed to sound the same to
me,
> but the last few months I have re-recorded a few songs and id like to get
an
> un-biased view from you guys

Fair enough. I thought it was great.

Everything except the banjo which seemed a little obtrusive against your
vocal line.

But I'm not a fan of the bloody things at the best of times, so maybe I'm
not impartial here. :-)

>...you can be brutal, kind whatever...

I only do honest.

> Anyway here is the first link..hope it works

Indeed it does.

Thank you very much for sharing that track with us. Are you going to
re-record any more of them?

Cheers,

J.

Steve Dix

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:22:30 AM1/11/03
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:41:37 GMT, "Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk>
wrote:

>For those of you interested:
>
>Guitar used was Tom Anderson hollow classic played direct into Fender
>Prosonic slightly dirtied up! Any compression was added at mixdown.
>
>Tony J
>

Sounds fine to me, although it's not really the sort of stuff I'm
into. Are you going to submit it for the offline CD?

What did you record it on, Tony?

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IanG

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:30:56 AM1/11/03
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:26:45 GMT, "Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk> wrote:

I really like this, reminds me of Black Crows whom i listened to everyday a
while back. Im a huge fan of chilled out rock so i love this track.

Is that you singing?
I really enjoyed your guitar playing, the rhythm playing is great and your lead
is not too busy, well done you! (nice tone as well)

More Please

IanG

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Feedback welcome to: ian at ian-giffiths.co.uk

Tony J

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:33:47 AM1/11/03
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Steve Dix <st...@stevedix.de> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:41:37 GMT, "Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds fine to me, although it's not really the sort of stuff I'm
> into. Are you going to submit it for the offline CD?

I never thought of that, but id be happy to


>
> What did you record it on, Tony?

Was a 24 track old fashioned tape machine, cant recall the make, all i
remeber thinking was how warm the sound was compared to using Cubase...that
said however, I think Cubase is bloody excellent, I couldnt have dont the
drum track without it


Tony

Tony J

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Jan 11, 2003, 7:38:11 AM1/11/03
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Justin Otto <justi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Everything except the banjo which seemed a little obtrusive against your
> vocal line.

Yep I thought the same too..its funny how you pull things apart after you
got a finished article..I could have gone on forever..


>
> Thank you very much for sharing that track with us. Are you going to
> re-record any more of them?

Ive actually finished two others...again both a little naive in their
creation, cos my idea was to just record stuff from my teenage years..
anyway ill post them up later for you all

Thanks for your comments

Tony

Gary Wright

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Jan 11, 2003, 8:53:46 AM1/11/03
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Hi Tony

I really like this. Great vocals, nice tune. Kids, eh?

I'm fine with the second banjo+guitar+vocal combo. I think the first one
suffers due to the overdriven guitar plus vocals going at the same time. In
the first use of this combination at around 0.58, the notes from the
overdriven guitar are occasionally lingering too long into the vocal. This
is great in isolation (it works nicely earlier in the track), but, along
with the banjo, makes it all a bit too busy at this point and you lose focus
on the vocal. The second time the banjo is used, it doesn't sound so busy
as the overdriven guitar is used more subtely. So, personally, that's the
only change I'd make. But I am very inexperienced at this stuff and just
fiddle at home. So I might be way off target.

Talking of doing drums in Cubase, if you go to
http://www.wizoosounds.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wizoosounds?c=e, you can buy
new drumkits on line. I bought the top quality version of the soul kit.
About £15. Up to 15 sample levels per drum, and there are 3 different mike
setups on the same kit. If you don't have ADSL, forget it. It was nearly a
200 meg download!

More tracks, please.

Gary


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Steve at fivetrees

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Jan 11, 2003, 9:33:58 AM1/11/03
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"Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Some years ago...over 30 to be more accurate, I wrote quite a bit of
> material that always seemed to sound the same to me, but the last few
months
> I have re-recorded a few songs and id like to get an un-biased view from
you
> guys...you can be brutal, kind whatever...it can be no worse than Ive had
> from my kids...both guitar players.

Nice job. Particularly like the vocals and the rhythm guitar.

The banjo thing is, to my ears, more of a question of making it "sit in the
mix" than just a level thing. Briefly this is probably a question of
judicious EQ and compression applied to the other tracks, to find a slot for
the banjo to live without cutting across the vocal. IMHO, and YMMV etc.
Overall mastering may help too.

Good job with the drums, too. Programmed drums tend to sound programmed -
yours less so than many I've heard.

Steve
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Andrew_S

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Jan 11, 2003, 9:59:07 AM1/11/03
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"Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk> wrote in
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like everyone else has said ... nice !

This is good stuff. I like the "openness" to the lead playing. It puts me
very much in mind of the Eagles, in fact with slightly less cheesy lyrics
<grin> I could have believed it was a song from that stable !

Andrew_S

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Adrian Clark

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Jan 11, 2003, 8:16:27 PM1/11/03
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Wow, Tony... so you can play all those things you sell, then? ;-)

It's not my usual musical cup of tea, to be honest, but it's still a
damn fine bit of recording. I can see what a couple of people meant
about the banjo - I think it'd be a shame not to have it in there, as it
adds an extra texture, but it seems to be muscling in on the same
frequency range as the vocal and rhythm guitar. Maybe a touch of EQ
(hacking out some midrange) would do the trick.

You definitely ought to submit that for the next Offline CD!


Adrian

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Jan 12, 2003, 12:03:35 AM1/12/03
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:26:45 GMT, "Tony J" <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk>
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>Hi Guys

Hey, reaaaaly damn good!

Tony J

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Jan 12, 2003, 2:41:03 AM1/12/03
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> IanG wrote:
> Is that you singing?

Yep all my own work...I actually sing now more than I play, sad but its
seemed to work out that way


> More Please

Ive added another one but Im not sure if it will work on everybodies PC as
it was held in Real Player..but ill get the original CD back from my son and
then i can convert to Mp3, can you let me know if its downloadable and
working as it is?


Tone

icarusi

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Jan 12, 2003, 4:20:34 PM1/12/03
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Tony J <to...@stringsdirect.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys
>
> Some years ago...over 30 to be more accurate, I wrote quite a
bit of
> material that always seemed to sound the same to me, but the
last few months
> I have re-recorded a few songs and id like to get an un-biased
view from you
> guys...you can be brutal, kind whatever...it can be no worse
than Ive had
> from my kids...both guitar players.

Sounds good Tony. I'd probably repeat one phrase of that intro
guitar chord figure under the solo guitar at 0:50. The level of
the solo guitar seems a bit low from 1:43-1:50 compared to what
follows. I'd probably try to mute a few beats of bass and drums
prior to the roll fill at 1:41, to point-up the instrumental bit
following. The banjo/vocal mix sounds better on the second verse,
it seems to intrude more into the vocal on the first verse. If
you can do the DJ 'auto-ducking' with any of the
compressor/limiters you might have, you could probably keep the
general level of the banjo as-is in the first verse and let the
vocals duck it.

Icarusi
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