British guitar builders of the 70's and 80's ?
david morley
Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
I have a couple of jaydee guitars from the 70's
http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum17.html
http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum18.html
And a john Birch
http://users.tvcablenet.be/personal/tvcn21117/birch.htm
But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's ?
I have heard of Jerry Bix and Wilkes but there must be others that I can
look out for..
Cheers
David
DNS
<david....@gmx.net> wrote:
How about Shergold; I used to have a Marathon bass, and I remember a
Masquerader (?) guitar...
david morley
Andy Bettis
david morley <david....@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
>
> I have a couple of jaydee guitars from the 70's
>
> And a john Birch
>
> But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's ?
Ned Callan?
Rev. Andy
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> Hi all
>
>
> But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's
> ?
>
Not forgetting good old Tony Zemaitis of course, although these days you'd
have to be ridiculously wealthy to buy one.
Mike E.
John Adair
(in article <3gnlv2F...@individual.net>):
> I have heard of Jerry Bix and Wilkes but there must be others that I can
> look out for..
Chris Eccleshall - http://www.eccleshallguitars.co.uk/
My first guitar was a pink left-handed Eccleshall flying V, which I bought
from a bloke at school - very nice indeed, if a little ostentatious for my
tastes. (I ended up part-exchanging it for an old Epiphone Coronet, which was
rather more to my taste.)
John
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Mike Edmunds
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> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:44:33 +0100, david morley wrote
> (in article <3gnlv2F...@individual.net>):
>
>> I have heard of Jerry Bix and Wilkes but there must be others that I can
>> look out for..
>
> Chris Eccleshall - http://www.eccleshallguitars.co.uk/
>
Oooh, I'd forgotten him. The friend I played guitar with in the middle east
in the 80s had Eccleshall make him a lovely 335. Superb instrument.
Mike E.
david morley
David Barlow @ work
faithful replicas, they are even getting Danny O'Brien who did all the
engraving on the originals to do the new ones. You still need to have a few
quid mind........
Dave
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>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:44:33 +0100, david morley wrote
>> (in article <3gnlv2F...@individual.net>):
>>
>>> I have heard of Jerry Bix and Wilkes but there must be others that I can
>>> look out for..
The late, great, Sid Poole.
Les Pauls to die for...
Peter
Steve Robinson
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> But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's
> ?
Well they are more 80s than 70s but I can think of:
Gordon Whitham "Gordy"
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Download/Category.aspx?product=EGuitar&id=377
and Gordon Smith of course.
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Download/Category.aspx?product=EGuitar&id=376
I once owned a very nice Fingerbone guitar
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Download/Category.aspx?product=EGuitar&id=329
Steve.
David Barlow @ work
Hiscock)
I believe he did a standard range called Q7 at one time
Dave
Steve Robinson
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> Roger Giffin made some amazing guitars (ably assisted by a certain Mr
> Melvyn Hiscock)
>
> I believe he did a standard range called Q7 at one time
Q7? Wasn't that comic genius Spike Milligan? ;¬)
Steve.
david morley
I've seen pics of his work and would seriously love to find one....
David Barlow @ work
http://www.giffinguitars.com/vintage_gallery.htm
and you'll see a Q7 (it was Spike Milligan too though <G>)
Dave
JNugent
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> Hi all
> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
> I have a couple of jaydee guitars from the 70's
> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum17.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum18.html
> And a john Birch http://users.tvcablenet.be/personal/tvcn21117/birch.htm
I met JB a few times in the mid-seventies. Jaydee (John Diggins) worked for
Birch at the time, in a converted large detached house in Rubery, just SW by
W of Birmingham.
> But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's
> ?
> I have heard of Jerry Bix and Wilkes but there must be others that I can
> look out for..
Jim Burns (two separate incarnations directly-named: "Burns UK" in the
mid-70s and "Jim Burns (Actualisers) Ltd" in the early 80s, plus a hand in
the design of Hayman guitars in the early seventies).
Sam Li (who had a workshop in Gerrard Street, late sixties onward) - he did
a lot of customisation, and made some of the odd-looking guitars tht Noddy
Holder used.
Dick Knight (noted London jazz guitar maker/repairer).
Emile Grimshaw (still making and repairing guitars in the West End in the
70s - having started in the 1920s as his father's apprentice making banjos).
Steve Cobham
<jnu...@ac30.spamfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Sam Li (who had a workshop in Gerrard Street, late sixties onward) - he did
>a lot of customisation, and made some of the odd-looking guitars tht Noddy
>Holder used.
Wasn't it Dave Hill who had the strange instruments - as well as the
daftest hairstyle in rock?
I can only recall the Nodster using an SG and a black Tele with a
mirror scratchplate.
Didn't John Birch make DH's guitars?
Mainly the Superyob and the SG-type.
Steve.
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Thanks
JNugent
> <jnu...@ac30.spamfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>Sam Li (who had a workshop in Gerrard Street, late sixties onward) - he
>>did
>>a lot of customisation, and made some of the odd-looking guitars tht Noddy
>>Holder used.
> Wasn't it Dave Hill who had the strange instruments - as well as the
> daftest hairstyle in rock?
He also had custom-made instruments, but as you say, I think most of his
were John Birch-mde.
> I can only recall the Nodster using an SG and a black Tele with a
> mirror scratchplate.
The one I can recall most readily was a "bitsa" consisting of a (bound)
Gibson neck, a custom body, finished in white, which looked like a cross
between a Melody Maker an SG - no chamfers on the edges - and a wider lower
bout. It had the Gibson Les Paul bridge tailpiece arrangement, a Strat
pickup in the bridge position and humbucker in the neck position. All this
long before "pattern parts" became available. It was actually for sale (at
about £190 - when that was a LOT of money) in the side window of Sound City
(Shaftesbury Avenue / Gerrard Place) for about a year, then it disappeared
from the shop and Noddy started using it (I'm *sure* it was Noddy).
> Didn't John Birch make DH's guitars?
> Mainly the Superyob and the SG-type.
I believe he did (though Dave was originally seen with several shop-bought
staples like Fenders and/or Gibsons, wasn't he?).
Steve Cobham
<jnu...@ac30.spamfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> I can only recall the Nodster using an SG and a black Tele with a
>> mirror scratchplate.
>
>The one I can recall most readily was a "bitsa" consisting of a (bound)
>Gibson neck, a custom body, finished in white, which looked like a cross
>between a Melody Maker an SG - no chamfers on the edges - and a wider lower
>bout. It had the Gibson Les Paul bridge tailpiece arrangement, a Strat
>pickup in the bridge position and humbucker in the neck position.
Like this?
http://www.speaker-mag.de/photo/The_Slade/Dave_Hill_12_01_1.jpg
The hat is amazing.
Has anyone in rock ever looked quite so daft?
Stan Barr
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I always fancied a Shergold, or a Hayman, but one never turned up at the
right price. Don't forget Ned Callan aka Peter Cook.
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Nick Roche
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->Roger Giffin made some amazing guitars (ably assisted by a certain
->Mr Melvyn Hiscock)
I was lucky enough to try a superb lute back Hiscock acoustic
recently. Apparently the owner had a matching acoustic bass but I
didn't see that.
Nick Roche
John Adair
(in article <hg8ea1pk42kf12dp2...@4ax.com>):
>
> http://www.speaker-mag.de/photo/The_Slade/Dave_Hill_12_01_1.jpg
>
> The hat is amazing.
>
> Has anyone in rock ever looked quite so daft?
>
That was a challenge I was just heading to google to respond to until I
looked at that picture... No one else in rock has ever looked *that* daft,
although The Hall of Douchebags at Rock and Roll Confidential has some worthy
runners up!
http://www.rockandrollconfidential.com/hall/index.php
Al
> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
Shergold/Hayman modular thingy?
Burns Flyte?
Or maybe a Nobbly Ned [Callan]?
Woolies "Top Twenty" balsawood special?
Al.
micknand
> Hi all
>
> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
>
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum17.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/PhotoAlbum18.html
>
> And a john Birch
>
> http://users.tvcablenet.be/personal/tvcn21117/birch.htm
>
> But, what other good quality British guitars are there from the 70's/80's ?
>
> look out for..
> David
Interesting thread guys and I must agree with those suggesting Gordon
Smiths - I just bought G-60 - Les Paul Junior type guitar and can't
believe how good it is for the money.
Mick
A tight fisted yorkshireman
Chris Bolus
>> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
>> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
>
>
>Woolies "Top Twenty" balsawood special?
>
They were Japanese, early crap. Couldn't be made that cheap here. Very
low-density plywood. I still have one, though the only original bits are
the neck, which itself is surprisingly good, and tuners which are pants.
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Steve Dix
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>"Steve Cobham" <st...@XSPAMXguitarsXMAPSX.powernet.co.uk> wrote...
>
>The one I can recall most readily was a "bitsa" consisting of a (bound)
>Gibson neck, a custom body, finished in white, which looked like a cross
>between a Melody Maker an SG - no chamfers on the edges - and a wider lower
>bout. It had the Gibson Les Paul bridge tailpiece arrangement, a Strat
>pickup in the bridge position and humbucker in the neck position. All this
>long before "pattern parts" became available. It was actually for sale (at
>about £190 - when that was a LOT of money) in the side window of Sound City
>(Shaftesbury Avenue / Gerrard Place) for about a year, then it disappeared
>from the shop and Noddy started using it (I'm *sure* it was Noddy).
>
ISTR that when they interviewed Dave Hill in "Guitarist", he was
pictured holding that very "bitsa" guitar.
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JNugent
> <jnu...@ac30.spamfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I can only recall the Nodster using an SG and a black Tele with a
>>> mirror scratchplate.
>>The one I can recall most readily was a "bitsa" consisting of a (bound)
>>Gibson neck, a custom body, finished in white, which looked like a cross
>>between a Melody Maker an SG - no chamfers on the edges - and a wider
>>lower
>>bout. It had the Gibson Les Paul bridge tailpiece arrangement, a Strat
>>pickup in the bridge position and humbucker in the neck position.
> Like this?
> http://www.speaker-mag.de/photo/The_Slade/Dave_Hill_12_01_1.jpg
Very like it, except that the body was (originally?) a fair bit lighter
(like the limed finish on a LP Jnr or a 60s blonde Tele).
The guitar was a Sam Li, but not "custom made" - it was for sale in Sound
City, and I assume NH or DH just walked in and bought it.
> The hat is amazing.
> Has anyone in rock ever looked quite so daft?
Slash?
[And don't bother with the "No thanks, I had just had one" routine!]
JNugent
>> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
>> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
> Shergold/Hayman modular thingy?
Mentioned.
> Burns Flyte?
Mentioned.
> Or maybe a Nobbly Ned [Callan]?
Made by Peter Cook?
> Woolies "Top Twenty" balsawood special?
I'm reasonably sure Woolworths never sold British-made guitars.
Stan Barr
<jnu...@ac30.spamfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>"Al" <alne...@hotmail.com> wrote...
>
>>> Quite fancy getting a few British guitars as I really like the
>>> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
Just remembered Bond. ...and Fenton Wiell, but they're older.
KGB in Birkenhead makes some nice guitars, his Status style basses
look good.
There are even a couple of mine out there somewhere :-)
Mike Edmunds
> quality/price ratio of stuff I have got already:
>
>
> ?
What about Dave Gladden?
Steve at fivetrees
> ?
How about Andy Demetriou, from Brighton? All I can find on the web is
mention of some work he did for Uli Jon Roth:
http://www.17thstreetguitars.com/uli_release.html
Quote: "Designed by the artist himself and perfected via several prototypes
by Greek-born master luthier Andreas Demetriou in England"...
Andy is an old friend. I was his first commercial customer, I believe. I was
building a guitar (circa '77?), needed some routing done, and Andy was
working in a toolshop... we got chatting, and once he'd showed me the LP
he'd just finished (for himself), I entrusted the completion of my guitar to
him. He did a *fabulous* job, and it was my main squeeze for a couple of
decades (refretted 4 times, iirc, and now due for another). I like to think
the exercise gave Andy the confidence he needed to go pro... (The guitar was
a Hofner Verithin neck, salvaged from a basketcase, and a beautiful piece of
dried mahogany that I'd lovingly carved myself. Halfway between a Strat and
an SG...)
Andy went on to do rather well. (I must ask him if he still has his Porsche
;). ) He was "my luthier" for many years. I commissioned a top-end (4
figure)guitar for a Swiss friend from him - the guitar itself was glorious,
a work of art, a masterpiece to be touched, stroked, and played (although
the Kent Armstrong pickups were too noisy for my Swiss friend, and they were
swiftly replaced....).
I'm a bit out of touch these days, but last I heard Andy quit luthiering a
few years ago (the paint/varnish fumes had always been a problem for him),
and, if I remember correctly, is now teaching furniture design at a Worthing
college.
Which is a bitch. 1) I've lost my luthier, and am still luthierless.... 2)
Andy was/is a talented man. If you've ever vicariously enjoyed someone's
extreme natural mastery over his/her craft, you'll understand my admiration
for Andy.
Oh, and he's one of the nicest, humblest, most softly-spoken, Greek-god-est
looking people on the planet.
david morley
Mark Seery
>
>
> Oooh, I'd forgotten him. The friend I played guitar with in the middle
> east in the 80s had Eccleshall make him a lovely 335. Superb instrument.
Great craftsman and a gentleman to boot.
I had a Les Paul refinished by him some years ago. The day I went to
collect the finished article and despite the fact that he was very busy in
the process of packing up most of his workshop prior to moving out of London
for the West country, he was very accomodating. He ended up giving around
two hours of his time simply to chew the fat and gossip about new designs
that he had on the board. CE also reported that he was supposed to be
spending the afternoon doing some work for another customer - Some unknown
guy called Rory Gallagher!
MS
Nick Roche
->I was lucky enough to try a superb lute back Hiscock acoustic
->recently.
Sorry, CORRECTION: It was HISCOX - the luthier who went on to make
guitar cases!
Stu Rutter
one was stolen. Before that he had a black Tele that had round mirrors stuck
on it.
H's Sam Li, (Sam Lee) was the neck off a Gibson 135 semi stuck onto a custom
body with some parts off an SG Melody Maker. His dad bought it for him when
he turned pro - so he calls it "Dad's Gibson". He "retired" it last year
after it was nearly wrecked at a gig.
TN Nurse posting on here???
There can't be many of that name who know about John Birch, so I'm guessing
you're the guy who sold me the pickups for my John Birch bass??
Hi! - and thanks again!!!
For whatever reason I can't read your posts just now (I'm new here), so I'm
assuming it's you.
Stu
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someone who will treasure it. I purchased the guitar in 1976 but never get
to play it these days.
david morley
If you have details of the guitar and pics, drop me a mail?
Cheers
David
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>Hi Andy now lives in Cyprus he no longer has his porsche into bikes now! Still the same all theses years later. Still building the odd guitar but mainly for himself lol. (I'm his wife's cousin )
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