Help me make a decision!
Dave Van
For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
proposals? I have it narrowed down to five combinations. The ones that
have the vintage looking pickguards would also have vintage tinted
necks. You can view all of them at the following web page:
http://www.brickgarage.com/guitarfinals
You can let me know what you think by emailing:
These are just ideas for now so please be kind!
Peace and THANKS!
Dave
Woody
> Hello UMG friends.
>
> For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
> people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
> This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
> more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
> until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
> able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
> getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
> see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
> course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
> just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
> proposals? I have it narrowed down to five combinations.
So can't help with that as I don't like strats with rosewood necks
(well, not a great strat fan anyway, but they need maple necks!) but
wondered why you were just restricting yourself to strats?
--
Woody
Dave Van
Hi Woody.
Well, I already have a Les Paul copy as well as a Gibson SG and I want a
Strat next. Down the road I'll probably do a tele too. I never liked
maple necks. I don't like the feel of bending on a finished neck and I
hate the way they age. I much prefer the feel of nice slick un-finished
rosewood or ebony under my fingers. The back of the neck will have a
satin finish. As I browse guitar history books and web sites I find
that about a third of the vintage Strats out there have Rosewood necks
so I don't necessarily agree that they 'need' maple necks.
Cheers!
DV
Woody
> Woody wrote:
> > Dave Van <da...@brickgarage.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello UMG friends.
> >>
> >> For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> >> Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
> >> people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
> >> This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
> >> more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
> >> until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
> >> able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
> >> getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
> >> see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
> >> course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
> >> just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
> >> proposals? I have it narrowed down to five combinations.
> >
> > So can't help with that as I don't like strats with rosewood necks
> > (well, not a great strat fan anyway, but they need maple necks!) but
> > wondered why you were just restricting yourself to strats?
>
> Well, I already have a Les Paul copy as well as a Gibson SG and I want a
> Strat next.
Fair enough.
> Down the road I'll probably do a tele too.
can't argue with that, having recently bought one. Always hated teles
too, then had a strange desire to bought one. Got one and love it.
> I never liked
> maple necks. I don't like the feel of bending on a finished neck and I
> hate the way they age. I much prefer the feel of nice slick un-finished
> rosewood or ebony under my fingers.
Me too, in any non fender guitar!
All my other guitars are rosewood, but for some reason, a tele or a
strat seems wrong with a dark neck.
> The back of the neck will have a
> satin finish. As I browse guitar history books and web sites I find
> that about a third of the vintage Strats out there have Rosewood necks
> so I don't necessarily agree that they 'need' maple necks.
I realise they don't need them, but to me, they do!
Anyway, neck colour aside, a strat has to be candy apple red, or tobacco
burst / 3 tone sunburst, or maybe black, unless you really feel like one
the 60s custom colours, such as lake placid blue or pink paisly, as that
is so ott, so I guess the closest you have is the dark tangerine
:-)
--
Woody
Dave Van
>
> Anyway, neck colour aside, a strat has to be candy apple red, or tobacco
> burst / 3 tone sunburst, or maybe black, unless you really feel like one
> the 60s custom colours, such as lake placid blue or pink paisly, as that
> is so ott, so I guess the closest you have is the dark tangerine
>
> :-)
>
Heh...
Forgot to mention... My son has a Strat body (dual humbuckers though so
not truly a Strat) and it's a deep trans red. I wanted mine to be
different so I avoided red since my guitar will probably be his one day.
All of the colors you mentioned are quite lovely and very traditional
and... just like everyone elses!
I appreciate the input, though. Perhaps the Sunburst will make it's way
back in the running after all even though the Epiphone Les Paul is a
Sunburst.
Sheesh... I need a hard deadline or I'll never make a decision!
Peace
DV
Woody
> Woody wrote:
>
> >
> > Anyway, neck colour aside, a strat has to be candy apple red, or tobacco
> > burst / 3 tone sunburst, or maybe black, unless you really feel like one
> > the 60s custom colours, such as lake placid blue or pink paisly, as that
> > is so ott, so I guess the closest you have is the dark tangerine
> >
> > :-)
> >
>
>
> Heh...
>
> Forgot to mention... My son has a Strat body (dual humbuckers though so
> not truly a Strat) and it's a deep trans red. I wanted mine to be
> different so I avoided red since my guitar will probably be his one day.
>
> All of the colors you mentioned are quite lovely and very traditional
> and... just like everyone elses!
Its a strat - it will be just like everyone elses. Thats probably the
thing I have against them. I don't know why, as it should be the same
with les pauls, but it isn't.
> I appreciate the input, though. Perhaps the Sunburst will make it's way
> back in the running after all even though the Epiphone Les Paul is a
> Sunburst.
Sunburst is nice. You could always do an unusual sunburst like green to
black, or red to blue (hmm.. maybe not so nice), or purpley orange, like
that one vinny was playing, holding, or using as a drinking partner.. oh
here, <http://www.flickr.com/photos/alienrat/295729975/>
> Sheesh... I need a hard deadline or I'll never make a decision!
You said you were going to do it over time.
--
Woody
Dave Van
>
>
>> Sheesh... I need a hard deadline or I'll never make a decision!
>
> You said you were going to do it over time.
Yes. Build it over time... Not so much making the color decision.
Nigel Eastmond
use...@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
Or white.
Nige.
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Steve Dix
wrote:
>
>Anyway, neck colour aside, a strat has to be candy apple red, or tobacco
>burst / 3 tone sunburst, or maybe black, unless you really feel like one
>the 60s custom colours, such as lake placid blue or pink paisly, as that
>is so ott, so I guess the closest you have is the dark tangerine
>
>:-)
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that a Strat needs a
sunburst or similar finish, otherwise it starts to look a bit
plastic-y t to me.
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Graze
I kind of agree, I think I prefer maple on strats. I do have a strat
with an original '61 rosewood neck (l/hand '71 body) and that is
fantastic though.
I also polished the satin maple neck on my mex strat to take away that
ghastly satin finish, don't like that much.
As for colour, if I got another It would be cherry sunburst. I saw one
in a shop about 4 years ago and it looked amazing (of course with a
maple neck!)
Axes r us had a cherry burst body on their site and I may be
tempted......
G
nick
Hi Dave
Fear the blueness: http://www.bumlasers.com/ukmgers/nick/stratBits.jpg
In your case, imho, the Dakota Red looks pretty bitchin'.
nick.
Steve Robinson
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>
> For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> Stratocaster from parts.
<devils advocate>
Why not just go out to a shop and buy one that you like?
It's probably cheaper and there is less scope for disappointment.
</devils advocate>
Steve.
Cliff
I like the Spectra Blue but may be with the vintage pearl
scratchplate. I'm usually even more conservative than this and go for
the vintage off-white or black finish with nickel plated hard-ware.
Never been a big fan of sunburst finishes. I like Fender guitars that
look more functional than decorative. To me that's the nature of the
Fender beast.
Cliff
Rosewood fingerboard is my first choice too but, it does give the
guitar quite a different vib from a maple board.
Ross Edwards
Hmmm... the Candy Turquoise looks good, but then again I've got a
penchant for blue guitars!
There seems to be a lot of us on here assembling "Partsocasters" -
maybe we should have a shoot-out at the next notWigan?
(details of mine are at http://www.rossedwards.net/2008/01/57/)
Ross.
Woody
> On Jan 2, 9:31 pm, Dave Van <d...@brickgarage.com> wrote:
> > Hello UMG friends.
> >
> > For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> > Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
> > people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
> > This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
> > more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
> > until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
> > able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
> > getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
> > see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
> > course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
> > just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
> > proposals? I have it narrowed down to five combinations. The ones that
> > have the vintage looking pickguards would also have vintage tinted
> > necks. You can view all of them at the following web page:
> >
> > http://www.brickgarage.com/guitarfinals
> >
> > You can let me know what you think by emailing:
> >
> > gui...@brickgarage.com
> >
> > These are just ideas for now so please be kind!
>
> Fear the blueness: http://www.bumlasers.com/ukmgers/nick/stratBits.jpg
I think you may have got too many parts for that guitar.
The blue is lovely though. Can I have it, can I? Oh go on, please? What
if I asked really nicely? can I?
> In your case, imho, the Dakota Red looks pretty bitchin'.
What about now?
--
Woody
Zog The Undeniable
I'd go for the turquoise, given that it's a rosewood fingerboard. Best
of all would be tangerine with a maple neck. Pearl scratchguards do
absolutely nothing for me, I'm afraid.
What pickups are you going to use?
George Weston
"Nigel Eastmond" <eastmon...@kidneys.mac.com> wrote in message
news:eastmond.news1-2AA...@news.zen.co.uk...
Or indeed white, like mine, with a tortoiseshell pickguard
See
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alienrat/295719482/in/set-72157594372424859/
(said he, hijacking Woody's Flickr set!)
George
Dave Van
I'm not a huge fan of the pearl pickguards either but on those two
colors the vintage color seems alright.
>
> What pickups are you going to use?
I can't decide on a color. What makes you think I'll be able to decide
on pups? Seriously it could be either Duncans or Fralins. I like the
idea of total vintage in the neck and middle and slightly hotter at
the bridge. Wired with a blender pot.
Thanks for the input. Turquoise/White is getting a lot of support so
far.
Cheers
DV
Cliff
wrote:
> "Nigel Eastmond" <eastmond.ne...@kidneys.mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eastmond.news1-2AA...@news.zen.co.uk...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <1ia40a6.193t5eco3tm6tN%use...@alienrat.co.uk>,
> > use...@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
>
> (said he, hijacking Woody's Flickr set!)
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
That I like.
Cliff
tomScotland
> Or indeed white, like mine, with a tortoiseshell pickguard
> See
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alienrat/295719482/in/set-72157594372424859/
> (said he, hijacking Woody's Flickr set!)
Nice. I'm going to put a tortie pickguard on my MIM strat now, you've made
up my mind, I was dithering.....
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George Weston
"tomScotland" <to...@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "George Weston"
>> Or indeed white, like mine, with a tortoiseshell pickguard
>> See
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alienrat/295719482/in/set-72157594372424859/
>> (said he, hijacking Woody's Flickr set!)
>
> Nice. I'm going to put a tortie pickguard on my MIM strat now, you've made
> up my mind, I was dithering.....
I've put one on my Tele too - looks good with sunburst as well as white.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87594399@N00/1425925136/in/set-72157602117090136/
George
Woody
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I think you need to fix the fact that someone built it upside down first.
--
Woody
david morley
LOVE strats and tele's with rosewood... never got on with maple.
Dakota Red wiith rosewood gets my vote. Just like my CS strat, which I
adore and IS the best strat made ;-)
david morley
I intend doing a tele soon. People say why? Well, it's fun and you can
do what you want, but that damn Fender Baja tele keeps putting me off.
It's too good for the money.
Dave Van
JPEG?
Dave Van
It's interesting. When I do decide to put a tele together I will have no
issues with color. It will be trans butterscotch on Ash with a black
pickguard. I would even break down and get a maple fingerboard and tint
it for a vintage vibe and finish it with tung oil.
Woody
Its got a maple neck though (the one true neck colour for teles), and
you don't like that.
However, I have one and agree, it is very good for the money, it is a
lovely guitar to play, has a great neck and the switching combinations
are a useful addition.
--
Woody
Dave Van
Color has nothing to do with why I don't care for maple necks. I don't
like the feel of finished fingerboards. But for the sake of a classic
looking tele, I might be able to put up with a tung oiled fingerboard
and all the maintenance that would go with it. Or better yet... An all
Canary wood neck. Color similar to that of an aged finished maple neck
but no finish is required at all!
Nigel Eastmond
"Steve Robinson" <stephen.p.robins...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
Steve,
I thought that you would be the first guy to understand what a man might
want to build a guitar with his own hands and learn new skills along the
way. Or is this a canny tech protecting his business!!??
:-)
Woody
Heres mine: <http://skitch.com/woody/telecaster-20071111-212730/>
sounds similar (except I have finished neck).
--
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>Or better yet... An all Canary wood neck.
I didnt know canaries where made of wood?
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Dave Van
That's the exact look that I would want in a Tele.
Dave Van
> "Dave Van" wrote in message
>> Or better yet... An all Canary wood neck.
>
> I didnt know canaries where made of wood?
>
> IGMC
>
>
No dear boy. Canaries cut, clear and mill the lumber.
Chris Bolus
<eastmon...@kidneys.mac.com> wrote:
>In article <PY3fj.24065$h35....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
> "Steve Robinson" <stephen.p.robins...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Van" <da...@brickgarage.com> wrote in message
>> news:AoTej.27869$4V6....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>> >
>> > For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
>> > Stratocaster from parts.
>>
>> <devils advocate>
>>
>> Why not just go out to a shop and buy one that you like?
>>
>> It's probably cheaper and there is less scope for disappointment.
>>
>> </devils advocate>
>>
>> Steve.
>
>Steve,
>
>I thought that you would be the first guy to understand what a man might
>want to build a guitar with his own hands and learn new skills along the
>way. Or is this a canny tech protecting his business!!??
>
Agreed, there's something special about a guitar you've put something of
yourself into. Even if it's not a great guitar, it's still special.
Hmmm... must get around to resurrecting the Firebird...
--
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A guitar is for life, not just for Christmas!
icarusi
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> I have it narrowed down to five combinations. The ones that have the
> vintage looking pickguards would also have vintage tinted necks. You can
> view all of them at the following web page:
I'd go for the 'bluey' ones but I like to see the grain, especially if I've
paid for it to be seen. Ditto for the pickguard so I'd go for tinted
transparent and the controls and pickups installed as if there were no
pickguard.
icarusi
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Steve Robinson
> In article <PY3fj.24065$h35....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
> "Steve Robinson" <stephen.p.robins...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> "Dave Van" <da...@brickgarage.com> wrote in message
>> news:AoTej.27869$4V6....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>> > For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
>> > Stratocaster from parts.
>>
>
> want to build a guitar with his own hands and learn new skills along the
> way. Or is this a canny tech protecting his business!!??
Maybe I'm just a bit blasé about assembling guitars?
Or maybe I've seen too many abandoned projects on eBay?
It does seem to be more expensive to buy the parts than a complete guitar
and some people seem to make a good living from breaking Fender guitars and
flogging the bits.
It depends what is wanted - the challenge of designing and assembling a
guitar, or just a guitar.
I've re-read the OP though and Dave does seem to have plenty of experience
and know what he's doing.
Steve.
david morley
Found them..
http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/.Pictures/guitars/CSSTR.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/.Pictures/guitars/CSSTRba.JPG
Some other guitars of mine here too (needs updating as some are gone and
more have arrived!
http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/guitars/PhotoAlbum22.html
david morley
think it's such a nice neck and guitar overall for the money I can live
with it.
I WOULD prefer a rosewood, but it's a great guitar for the money despite
that.
Dave Van
> Dave Van wrote:
> > david morley wrote:
> >> Woody wrote:
>
> >>>> Hello UMG friends.
>
> >>>> For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> >>>> Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
> >>>> people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for
> >>>> myself.
> >>>> This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save
> >>>> some
> >>>> more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
> >>>> until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
> >>>> able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
> >>>> getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
> >>>> see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
> >>>> course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
> >>>> just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
> >>>> proposals? I have it narrowed down to five combinations.
>
> >>> So can't help with that as I don't like strats with rosewood necks
> >>> (well, not a great strat fan anyway, but they need maple necks!) but
> >>> wondered why you were just restricting yourself to strats?
>
> >> Opposite here
> >> LOVE strats and tele's with rosewood... never got on with maple.
> >> Dakota Red wiith rosewood gets my vote. Just like my CS strat, which I
> >> adore and IS the best strat made ;-)
>
> > JPEG?
>
>
> Some other guitars of mine here too (needs updating as some are gone and
> more have arrived!http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/guitars/PhotoAlbum22.html
That Red guitar is quite photogenic. Thanks for sharing your pics. I
love the Fender Esprit. Never seen one of those before.
Peace
DV
david morley
white one
http://www.masterseriesguitars.com/FEfw.fullBIG.jpg
Lovely guitars.. built in 84 only I think
JNugent
> use...@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
>>Anyway, neck colour aside, a strat has to be candy apple red, or tobacco
>>burst / 3 tone sunburst, or maybe black, unless you really feel like one
>>the 60s custom colours, such as lake placid blue or pink paisly, as that
>>is so ott, so I guess the closest you have is the dark tangerine
>>:-)
> Personally, I've always been of the opinion that a Strat needs a
> sunburst or similar finish, otherwise it starts to look a bit
> plastic-y t to me.
That was the whole point, Steve - it was the Space Age, and the
Stratocaster looked like part of it!
In the UK, the range of Fender custom colours was in any event rather
truncated by the importers (who were having terrible trouble getting
enough Fiesta Red Strats and Precision Basses, since that finish was
in phenomenal demand... for some reason or other).
The only finishes available here at the time were Fiesta Red, sunburst
(three-tone, of course), Olympic White and that very pale blue (Sonic
Blue, I think it was called). They called them simply "red",
"sunburst", "white" and "blue". That was it. No others. If any others
turned up at the docks, I suspect that due to the demand, Selmer
resprayed them in a "sorta pink" that eventually formed part of the
Fiesta Red/Salmon Pink legend.
Black is a particularly thorny issue. I can state with near certainty
that you never saw a black Fender in the UK in the early 1960s. If you
see what looks like a black Strat or bass edge-on in a photo, it's a
safe bet that the instrument is in fact finished in sunburst. I know
that Fender had done some guitars in black (one of them for Bill
Carson), but that finish never made it into the UK brochures of the
day. Likewise, the metallic and other finishes available in the States
(CAR, LPB, etc) were never seen here. Later in the decade, two
particular finishes starting turning up on secondhand Fender guitars
and basses - one of them being black. I take the view that this was
because black was the easiest colour to respray a chipped or worn
guitar - and because the bright custom colours had fallen right out of
favour. I incline to the view that any original Selmer or Jennings
imported Fender finished in black (or, indeed in anything but those
four finishes mentioned above) is probably a respray. The other common
refinish on Fenders was for all the original finish to be stripped off
and the body just lacquered or varnished - the so-called "Natural"
finish. That was so popular that Fender eventually introduced it as a
factory finish (in that very hard clear lacquer that CBS/Fender were
using in the 1970s).
JNugent
> On 2 Jan, 21:31, Dave Van <d...@brickgarage.com> wrote:
>
>>Hello UMG friends.
>>
>>For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
>>Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
>>people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
>> This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
>>more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
>>until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
>>able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
>>getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
>>see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
>>course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
>>just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
>>have the vintage looking pickguards would also have vintage tinted
>>necks. You can view all of them at the following web page:
>>
>>http://www.brickgarage.com/guitarfinals
>>
>>You can let me know what you think by emailing:
>>
>>gui...@brickgarage.com
>>
>>These are just ideas for now so please be kind!
>>
>>Peace and THANKS!
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> penchant for blue guitars!
>
> There seems to be a lot of us on here assembling "Partsocasters" -
> maybe we should have a shoot-out at the next notWigan?
>
> (details of mine are at http://www.rossedwards.net/2008/01/57/)
>
> Ross.
Nice one, Ross.
If you have still not bought the bridge, let me recommend the
Wilkinson vintage-type assembly (an amazing £26.50 delivered from
Axes'R'Us - that's the whole thing, right down to the springs and the
claw). It has a *steel* block with a push-in arm (with a little
tensioning grub-screw cleverly hidden) and nickel-plated saddles. It
looks just like the real thing except for the stamped logos. I fitted
one to my Jagmaster a couple of years ago (the usual thing - stripped
trem arm socket thread in a cast block), but I replaced the saddles
with the original "Fender" stamped ones. You won't do better.
JNugent
>>>Hello UMG friends.
>>>http://www.brickgarage.com/guitarfinals
The "one true neck colour", eh?
It's all sociological, Woody!
The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front
cover of a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate,
rosewood fretboard.
JNugent
> Heres mine: <http://skitch.com/woody/telecaster-20071111-212730/>
Ooh, you bugger...
That is really nice (and I don't like maple necks)...
JNugent
>>>>> Hello UMG friends.
>> JPEG?
Is that a factory finish (including the headstock), David?
Also - that John Birch guitar in your album really takes me back - to
visits to his factory/workshop in Rubery, Birmingham, thirty+ years
ago... sigh...
SteveShark
<not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>Black is a particularly thorny issue. I can state with near certainty
>that you never saw a black Fender in the UK in the early 1960s. If you
>see what looks like a black Strat or bass edge-on in a photo, it's a
>safe bet that the instrument is in fact finished in sunburst. I know
>that Fender had done some guitars in black (one of them for Bill
>Carson), but that finish never made it into the UK brochures of the
>day. Likewise, the metallic and other finishes available in the States
>(CAR, LPB, etc) were never seen here.
I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
It was really when Hendrix appeared that I started seeing some other
colours - mainly white and red. Before then Strats were sort of
uncool.
Hendrix did have a black Strat - I reckon 1968 was the first time he
used one - but I assume by the time he acquired that it was a standard
finish.
At one time he was carrying 13 guitars on tour, so there may well have
been more than one black Strat in there.
I've heard that 7 of these are unaccounted for, but I know I haven't
got one ;)
Worth a minimum of £100 000 if you've got one in the loft........
Steve.
Woody
No it isn't - it is the one true colour for tele/strat necks, which is
odd, as I think maple necks look cheap on any other make!
> The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front
> cover of a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate,
> rosewood fretboard.
nah..
--
Woody
JNugent
> JNugent <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>Black is a particularly thorny issue. I can state with near certainty
>>that you never saw a black Fender in the UK in the early 1960s. If you
>>see what looks like a black Strat or bass edge-on in a photo, it's a
>>safe bet that the instrument is in fact finished in sunburst. I know
>>that Fender had done some guitars in black (one of them for Bill
>>Carson), but that finish never made it into the UK brochures of the
>>day. Likewise, the metallic and other finishes available in the States
>>(CAR, LPB, etc) were never seen here.
> I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
> although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
I don't believe you. I think you must have seen one or two red Strats
before that!
> It was really when Hendrix appeared that I started seeing some other
> colours - mainly white and red. Before then Strats were sort of
> uncool.
They had become so with the start of the Beat Boom (c.1963).
> Hendrix did have a black Strat - I reckon 1968 was the first time he
> used one - but I assume by the time he acquired that it was a standard
> finish.
I remember it/them. They were newer guitars, the typical mid-sixties
Strat with the first of the CBS changes (the larger headstock and the
reintroduced maple neck or maple fretboard, IIRC).
> At one time he was carrying 13 guitars on tour, so there may well have
> been more than one black Strat in there.
> I've heard that 7 of these are unaccounted for, but I know I haven't
> got one ;)
> Worth a minimum of £100 000 if you've got one in the loft........
> Steve.
I'll check. You never know.
Ivar Arnesen
"JNugent" <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message
news:qqmdnZT3XoDq5uLa...@pipex.net...
On Tuesday AND Wednesday I got several calls from a gentleman in the US who
wanted to buy a Mex Thinline Tele in Shell Pink from our shop.
He had spent nearly a year trying to hunt one down in the States with no
luck.
(We bought some in a deal some time ago, and he found an ad on the net.)
I had to redirect him to Sweden, where it looked like a small store in our
chain still had one...
With the falling exchange rate for US$ I guess it will end up costing him
close to US Custom Shop prices...
Some people take Fender colours mighty serious...:-)
Ivar
SteveShark
<not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>SteveShark wrote:
>
>> JNugent <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>
>>>Black is a particularly thorny issue. I can state with near certainty
>>>that you never saw a black Fender in the UK in the early 1960s. If you
>>>see what looks like a black Strat or bass edge-on in a photo, it's a
>>>safe bet that the instrument is in fact finished in sunburst. I know
>>>that Fender had done some guitars in black (one of them for Bill
>>>Carson), but that finish never made it into the UK brochures of the
>>>day. Likewise, the metallic and other finishes available in the States
>>>(CAR, LPB, etc) were never seen here.
>
>> I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
>> although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
>
>I don't believe you. I think you must have seen one or two red Strats
>before that!
Never in the flesh as it were.
Plenty on TV, and in photos but not in real life.
Anway, as soon as I saw Clapton's Les Paul I wasn't looking for Strats
;)
>
>> It was really when Hendrix appeared that I started seeing some other
>> colours - mainly white and red. Before then Strats were sort of
>> uncool.
>
>They had become so with the start of the Beat Boom (c.1963).
Yup - a Strat was old hat - or even old Hank...........
One of the guys in the Swinging Blue Jeans had one which he wore right
up high. Oh how we laughed at the time!
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=52801833&epmid=3&partner=Google
It wasn't a cool look even back then, although not as bad as Gerry
Marsden with his Gretsch damn near strangling him.
http://www.legendheart.com/gerry_pacemakers.jpg
Here's a pic of him attempting it with a Strat.
http://musicsojourn.com/AR/oldies/img/g/GerryAndPacemakers/ap/JerryPacemakers_Poster_1_250_201.jpg
>
Mind you, to be fair I've seen pictures of Keef and George Harrison in
similar poses.
I always though one of the hippest looking guys from the beat boom was
Tony Hicks of the Hollies.
He had lots of different guitars even in the early days and always
struck me as one of the more innovative guitarists but the material
apart from most of the singles was often a bit limp.
http://www.suitelorraine.com/suitelorraine/Media/TheHollies_cavernclub%20copy.jpg
But even that's a bit too highly slung to be cool........ ;)
http://weblog.micha-schmidt.net/wp-content/peterhook.jpg
And way too low.
You'll put yer back out doing that, Hooky!
However, this web page may be all you'll ever need on the subject:
http://www.godofguitar.com/poses.htm
And to conclude:
http://www.bartcop.com/guitar-monkey.jpg
Someone who doesn't need to pose badly with a guitar to look a right
cock-end.
That open G played a fret too high is going to sound like wank.
>> Hendrix did have a black Strat - I reckon 1968 was the first time he
>> used one - but I assume by the time he acquired that it was a standard
>> finish.
>
>I remember it/them. They were newer guitars, the typical mid-sixties
>Strat with the first of the CBS changes (the larger headstock and the
>reintroduced maple neck or maple fretboard, IIRC).
Indeed - the larger headstock (an ugly abomination IMO) was always
present in a black Hendrix Strat.
Steve.
Steve Robinson
news:qqmdnZT3XoDq5uLa...@pipex.net...
>
> a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate, rosewood
> fretboard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadows_%28album%29 of course.
I have to agree that that's my perfect Tele too.
Steve.
JNugent
> JNugent <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>SteveShark wrote:
[ ... ]
>>>I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
>>>although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
>>I don't believe you. I think you must have seen one or two red Strats
>>before that!
> Never in the flesh as it were.
No?
> Plenty on TV, and in photos but not in real life.
Ah... you were out in the Buckinghamshire sticks... I was in the
Mersey Metropolis. Four guitar shops just in the city centre.
> Anway, as soon as I saw Clapton's Les Paul I wasn't looking for Strats
> ;)
More or less the same here. When I could afford a really good guitar,
I was more into Gibsons (the semis, not the Les Paul). In those days
though, it all depended on what you could get your mitts on. I ended
up with a Jazzmaster (sunburst, of course), then moved on to a Gretsch
Anniversary (also sunburst). I eventually got my first Gibson only in
1978 (LP Custom - couldn't resist it), but I have added the ES175 and
ES335 dreams of my teenage years since then.
>>>It was really when Hendrix appeared that I started seeing some other
>>>colours - mainly white and red. Before then Strats were sort of
>>>uncool.
>>They had become so with the start of the Beat Boom (c.1963).
> Yup - a Strat was old hat - or even old Hank...........
Absolutely.
> One of the guys in the Swinging Blue Jeans had one which he wore right
> up high. Oh how we laughed at the time!
Ralph Ellis. He looked just like Mo Howard of The Three Stooges. He
left after a few years to be an insurance salesman - and his place was
taken by Terry Sylvester (a well-regarded Liverpool guitarist,
previously with the Escorts and later with The Hollies - he too played
one of those ice-blue Strats in the early days). Was it Ralph playing
the solo on "Hippy Hippy Shake", or was that another job for Big or
Little Jim? It's an astonishing solo calling for really fine technique.
> http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=52801833&epmid=3&partner=Google
That is a great shot. Thanks for the URL. That Jazz Bass looks SO
scrumptious in s/b and tortoiseshell...
> It wasn't a cool look even back then, although not as bad as Gerry
> Marsden with his Gretsch damn near strangling him.
> http://www.legendheart.com/gerry_pacemakers.jpg
:-)
That was de rigeur back then. John Lennon did the same.
> Here's a pic of him attempting it with a Strat.
> http://musicsojourn.com/AR/oldies/img/g/GerryAndPacemakers/ap/JerryPacemakers_Poster_1_250_201.jpg
I remember that shot. Gerry sometimes used that ice-blue Strat on TV.
IIRC, it belonged to the bass-plater (Les Chadwick) and he had used it
as a bass (in normal guitar tuning but with all the treble turned off)
before he bought a proper bass guitar.
> Mind you, to be fair I've seen pictures of Keef and George Harrison in
> similar poses.
And Lennon, the Fourmost, the Dakotas... loads of them.
> I always though one of the hippest looking guys from the beat boom was
> Tony Hicks of the Hollies.
> He had lots of different guitars even in the early days and always
> struck me as one of the more innovative guitarists but the material
> apart from most of the singles was often a bit limp.
Agreed. Tony was always seen as something of a collector, even back in
those days.
> http://www.suitelorraine.com/suitelorraine/Media/TheHollies_cavernclub%20copy.jpg
>
> But even that's a bit too highly slung to be cool........ ;)
That's not very different from Gerry et al.
> http://weblog.micha-schmidt.net/wp-content/peterhook.jpg
> And way too low.
> You'll put yer back out doing that, Hooky!
I came across a 1999 video of The Cardigans the other day...
> However, this web page may be all you'll ever need on the subject:
> http://www.godofguitar.com/poses.htm
Hilarious!
> And to conclude:
> http://www.bartcop.com/guitar-monkey.jpg
> Someone who doesn't need to pose badly with a guitar to look a right
> cock-end.
> That open G played a fret too high is going to sound like wank.
The owner(?) of the guitar looks really scared, as though he's
regretting lending it.
>>>Hendrix did have a black Strat - I reckon 1968 was the first time he
>>>used one - but I assume by the time he acquired that it was a standard
>>>finish.
>>I remember it/them. They were newer guitars, the typical mid-sixties
>>Strat with the first of the CBS changes (the larger headstock and the
>>reintroduced maple neck or maple fretboard, IIRC).
> Indeed - the larger headstock (an ugly abomination IMO) was always
> present in a black Hendrix Strat.
He did have one or maybe two pre-CBS Strats in the earliest days of
his London era (this may have been just before the large headstock
version hit the shops here anyway). But it/they seem to have
disappeared, possibly into someone's loft.
JNugent
> "JNugent" <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front cover of
>>a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate, rosewood
>>fretboard.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadows_%28album%29 of course.
> I have to agree that that's my perfect Tele too.
:-)
Ee, lad - Wikipedia has the album number(s) wrong!
It should be: 33SX *1374* (mono) and SCX 3414 (stereo).
I noticed that straight away...
I'll... er... get me anorak.
JNugent
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfoccRna6I>
[Found the reference on the jazz guitar NG]
Steve Robinson
> Steve Robinson wrote:
>
> Ee, lad - Wikipedia has the album number(s) wrong!
>
> It should be: 33SX *1374* (mono) and SCX 3414 (stereo).
Go fix it then! That's the whole idea of a Wiki.
Steve.
Stan Barr
<steveATguitarsDOTpowernetDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:
>
>I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
>although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
In my experience, in the '60 red/pink Strats outnumbered all others.
Not that you saw all that many...
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com
(Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.)
The future was never like this!
Stan Barr
<not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>
>The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front
>cover of a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate,
>rosewood fretboard.
Mine is '73/4 but otherwise fits that description... :-)
JNugent
> JNugent <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front
>>cover of a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate,
>>rosewood fretboard.
> Mine is '73/4 but otherwise fits that description... :-)
<Thinks... I'll snooker him...>
Kluson Deluxe nickel-plated split-post tuners?
JNugent
> SteveShark <steveATguitarsDOTpowernetDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:
>>I never saw anything other than sunburst Strats until about 1966,
>>although I didn't move in 'Strat circles' as it were ;)
> In my experience, in the '60 red/pink Strats outnumbered all others.
> Not that you saw all that many...
Indeed you didn't.
They then cost the equivalent of just about £3,000 in today's money.
Woody
That is the other colour the baja players tele (which is what mine is)
comes in. Wasn't keen. It looked too much like custard.
--
Woody
JNugent
> Steve Robinson <stephen.p.robins...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>"JNugent" <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>>The One True Tele Trim for me will always be the one on the front cover of
>>>a certain 1961 LP: Blonde (not Butterscotch), white plate, rosewood
>>>fretboard.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadows_%28album%29 of course.
>>I have to agree that that's my perfect Tele too.
> That is the other colour the baja players tele (which is what mine is)
> comes in. Wasn't keen. It looked too much like custard.
I've seen the guitar you mean - that isn't the blonde finish. At
least, not the blonde finish the way it used to be done.
david morley
underwhelmed by recent custom shop stuff (and sometimes taste is a word
they seem to avoid) but I picked this up in 1990 new. Played it in the
shop. Bought it as it was and still such a nice guitar. Haven't looked
at another strat since, hence proving that spending money saves you
money in the long run...dear.
david morley
worked for John Birch. Sill going strong too. Ever visited him???
Stan Barr
Nah...F-branded split-post ones...but I have changed the selector
switch tip for the earlier pattern one!
(However...it also has a Joe Barden bridge pickup, compensated bridge
saddles, domed heavy-knurled knobs and a reversed control plate so is
hardly original! Looking at the price being asked at the Liverpool
Guitar Show before Xmas, for a more "distressed" example from the
same period, I was tempted to restore it to original and flog it...
1695 quid - unbelievable!)
icarusi
news:5q1vn31662upukkmo...@4ax.com...
> I always though one of the hippest looking guys from the beat boom was
> Tony Hicks of the Hollies.
>
> He had lots of different guitars even in the early days and always
> struck me as one of the more innovative guitarists but the material
> apart from most of the singles was often a bit limp.
I remember that in the days when it was usually buy the 45, then watch them
mime to it on TYLS, the Hollies were supposed to be the best 'live' band to
see, at least of the pop/beat group bands. I thought some of their songs
were good and some naff, but now I think they're more interesting musically
and lyrically than much of the contemporary stuff, probably Gouldman's
stuff.
icarusi
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icarusi
>> Found them..
>> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/.Pictures/guitars/CSSTR.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/.Pictures/guitars/CSSTRba.JPG
>>
>> Some other guitars of mine here too (needs updating as some are gone and
>> more have arrived!
>> http://homepage.mac.com/dlmorley/guitars/PhotoAlbum22.html
>
> Is that a factory finish (including the headstock), David?
>
> Also - that John Birch guitar in your album really takes me back - to
> visits to his factory/workshop in Rubery, Birmingham, thirty+ years ago...
> sigh...
I vote for the next 'National' round at Dave's house.
SteveShark
wrote:
Yeah, I think their hits hold up really well - along with the
Searchers.
Steve.
Steve Dix
<david....@spamgmx.net> wrote:
>Damn, wish I could have been there! I have a few Jaydee's too and he
>worked for John Birch. Sill going strong too. Ever visited him???
I used to be around Rubery a lot in the mid 90's, as I was in a band
there.
--
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http://www.stevedix.de/blog http://www.snorty.net/
<st...@stevedix.de>
Steve Dix
There was a CD in the mid 90's of covers of "Stairway", which included
this and.... the Rolf Harris Version. (No. Really.)
Steve Dix
Then go in and change it! That's the whole point of Wikipedia.
Steve Dix
wrote:
I'd be *very* careful what you say about custard on this group. You
might start Adrian off..
;->
Ross Edwards
> Ross Edwards wrote:
> > On 2 Jan, 21:31, Dave Van <d...@brickgarage.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello UMG friends.
> >>
> >>For quite a while I have been going on and off about building up a new
> >>Stratocaster from parts. I've put together a couple before for other
> >>people with very good results. This time I will be doing it for myself.
> >> This is going to be a no skimp project so I will buy a body, save some
> >>more money, buy a neck, save some more money, buy more parts etc. etc.
> >>until it is complete. A few days ago, I thought I was not going to be
> >>able to start it for a couple more months but it now looks like I'll be
> >>getting at least a body ordered very soon. I thought it would be fun to
> >>see what you folks thought of my color ideas for this guitar. Of
> >>course, it's my guitar and ultimately I will make my own decision, but
> >>just for fun, why not chime in and let me know what you think of the
> >>have the vintage looking pickguards would also have vintage tinted
> >>necks. You can view all of them at the following web page:
> >>
> >>http://www.brickgarage.com/guitarfinals
> >>
> >>You can let me know what you think by emailing:
> >>
> >>gui...@brickgarage.com
> >>
> >>These are just ideas for now so please be kind!
> >>
> >>Peace and THANKS!
> >>
> >>Dave
> >
> >
> > penchant for blue guitars!
> >
> > There seems to be a lot of us on here assembling "Partsocasters" -
> > maybe we should have a shoot-out at the next notWigan?
> >
> > (details of mine are at http://www.rossedwards.net/2008/01/57/)
> >
> > Ross.
>
> Nice one, Ross.
>
> If you have still not bought the bridge, let me recommend the
> Wilkinson vintage-type assembly (an amazing �26.50 delivered from
> Axes'R'Us - that's the whole thing, right down to the springs and the
> claw). It has a *steel* block with a push-in arm (with a little
> tensioning grub-screw cleverly hidden) and nickel-plated saddles. It
> looks just like the real thing except for the stamped logos. I fitted
> one to my Jagmaster a couple of years ago (the usual thing - stripped
> trem arm socket thread in a cast block), but I replaced the saddles
> with the original "Fender" stamped ones. You won't do better.
Funnily enough, that's the one I've decided on... the right looks but
somehow more 'modern'.
They also some rather nice Kluson-style tuners (slotted posts, natch)
in gold for around £20, too...
Ross.
JNugent
Try this (very recently posted, I see):
One of only two editions of "Thank Your Lucky Stars" known to still
exist (this is the second slice of this 1963 all-Mersey beat edition):
icarusi
> One of only two editions of "Thank Your Lucky Stars" known to still exist
> (this is the second slice of this 1963 all-Mersey beat edition):
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAvgPEnjQhA&NR=1>
Probably 'telerecording'. AFAIK videotape recording wasn't up to speed when
TYLS was transmitted but 'telerecording' was 16mm film synced to the 405 TV
frame rate and was circulated far and wide. Not sure how the smpte code is
on the youtube clip but was probably on one of the audio stripes and someone
has filme copied this off an editor's display.
BTW I just remembered radios and TVs were originally wireless sets or TV
sets and you could ask to turn the 'set' on or off to watch/listen to a
particular programme. If you tried that now you'd probably get a blank look.
George Weston
"JNugent" <not.t...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message
news:ld2dndG-Pq8q8hza...@pipex.net...
Close your eyes and you could be listening to the current "Sounds of the
Sixties", still presented by Brian Matthew on Radio 2 on Saturday mornings
(if you're up early enough, which thankfully I'm not usually).
;-)
George
SteveShark
I occasionally listen to that - always if I'm up early having to drive
somewhere.
To put it bluntly, it never ceases to amaze me what utter fucking
dross was produced then, judging by that program.
Of course, we tend to filter out the dross according to taste and
hindsight, but it still goes to show that shit music isn't the
preserve of any particular decade......... ;)
Steve.
Steve Robinson
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:16:36 -0000, "George Weston"
> <geow...@NOSPAMgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Close your eyes and you could be listening to the current "Sounds of the
>>Sixties", still presented by Brian Matthew on Radio 2 on Saturday mornings
I listen nearly every week as I'm up taxi-ing the kids.
> To put it bluntly, it never ceases to amaze me what utter fucking
> dross was produced then, judging by that program.
I think that Brian Matthew is selective regarding what he plays. His taste
doesn't correspond with mine either.
IIRC, when he was ill a while back Johnnie Walker, Suzy Quattro (and Petula
Clark??) deputised for him and all seemed to play _their_ favourite 60s
material. Johnny Walker seemed to favour the rockier stuff which I like.
Suzy played a lot of US artists and told stories about when she met them...
Steve.
George Weston
"Steve Robinson" <stephen.p.robins...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
message news:hmtgj.23609$ov2....@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
Yes - Mr Matthew does seem to have some eclectic tastes -
"And now here's a rare B-side from 1961, requested by Fred Nuggerlugger for
his wife Doris, who is 73 today.
She remembers this one being played when Fred first put his hand up her
skirt at the local tea-dance.
Here it is then - an interesting "beat" arrangement of the old standard, Any
Old Iron, by Scunthorpe's "The Lurid Acnes", on the Scratchem label. (By the
way, Joe Nosepicker, the sole remaining survivor of the Lurids [the rest
died in a freak aspirin-and-coca-cola session in 1962 which went
unexpectedly wrong, while Joe was away polishing his bicycle clips] is still
playing drums to this day, at the South Lincolnshire home for the seriously
disturbed, every Wednesday morning at 8 am.)"
;-)
George
JNugent
> "SteveShark" <steveATguitarsDOTpowernetDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:
>>"George Weston" <geow...@NOSPAMgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>>Close your eyes and you could be listening to the current "Sounds of the
>>>Sixties", still presented by Brian Matthew on Radio 2 on Saturday mornings
> I listen nearly every week as I'm up taxi-ing the kids.
>>To put it bluntly, it never ceases to amaze me what utter fucking
>>dross was produced then, judging by that program.
> I think that Brian Matthew is selective regarding what he plays. His taste
> doesn't correspond with mine either.
> IIRC, when he was ill a while back Johnnie Walker, Suzy Quattro (and Petula
> Clark??) deputised for him and all seemed to play _their_ favourite 60s
> material. Johnny Walker seemed to favour the rockier stuff which I like.
> Suzy played a lot of US artists and told stories about when she met them...
I don't often listen, but when I do, I conclude that Brian Matthew
gets it just right. He doesn't seek to impose anything on the
listeners (as a well-known modern jazz fan, it wouldn't do if he did);
he and the producer just run the show exactly the way the feedback
suggests the audience wants it.
And of course there was a load of dross produced at the time - there
always was. But even dross can take on an alternative meaning when it
forms part of one's personal and family history.
Steve Robinson
> Steve Robinson wrote:
>
>> I think that Brian Matthew is selective regarding what he plays. His
>> taste doesn't correspond with mine either.
>
> just right.
Somehow, I just knew that you would, Jim! ;¬)
Steve.
icarusi
> To put it bluntly, it never ceases to amaze me what utter fucking
> dross was produced then, judging by that program.
You'll have to tune in to Friday Night is Music Night, 19.30 R2. You'll get
the Al Bowlly biog too if you tune in at 19:00.
JNugent
Thanks for the tip.
Al was not only the greatest British pop singer of his day - he was
also a champion of the Maccaferri guitar. Just like Max Miller and Max
Wall were aficionados of the Martin range.