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Joel Cooney

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Jul 22, 2001, 7:49:00 AM7/22/01
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Hello,

I dare say this may have happened to a few of you guys in your time with
bands, so a little advice would be helpful. It took my band bloody ages to
agree to our current name "Dealer", unfortunately, I was looking in the
local events listing press & noticed another band playing a gig with the
same name (:-<). Whats the score with these sorts of conflicts? ( I seem to
recall a bit of Spinal Tap-esque dialogue relating to this topic). Prior to
finding this out, I gave a demo CD to a venue with our name on it, so I'm
reluctant to change it ( in case of confusion). Also I really can't be
bothered of going through the rigmarole of finding a new name. Any words of
wisdom chaps?


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Michael Cowley

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Jul 22, 2001, 11:01:16 AM7/22/01
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Joel Cooney <jco...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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you could try spelling it differently :)

perhaps in a trendy way that will indentify with today's youth.

erm.

Mike


Richard Brooks

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Jul 22, 2001, 11:55:40 AM7/22/01
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In the international arena I believe this is generally solved by becoming
(in our case) "BLACKFIRE (UK)" as opposed to just BLACKFIRE for the home
market.

So how about localising it - you could become "Dealer (Southend)" or
whatever?

I'll get me coat...

:-)

Speaking of the mighty Spinal Tap I bought the DVD yesterday - now I need to
find time to watch it for the new band commentary.

Cheers

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New album "Fast Music And Drinking" available from
http://www.blackfire.demon.co.uk/fastmusicdrinking.html

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Rev. Andy

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Jul 22, 2001, 5:00:54 PM7/22/01
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In article <tllr0hf...@corp.supernews.co.uk>, Michael Cowley
<mjc...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

> Joel Cooney <jco...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:9jeemg$n8076$1...@ID-96349.news.dfncis.de...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I dare say this may have happened to a few of you guys in your time with
> > bands, so a little advice would be helpful. It took my band bloody ages to
> > agree to our current name "Dealer", unfortunately, I was looking in the
> > local events listing press & noticed another band playing a gig with the
> > same name (:-<). Whats the score with these sorts of conflicts? ( I seem
> to
> > recall a bit of Spinal Tap-esque dialogue relating to this topic).

Oh yes, the 'New Originals' - fabulous name. Perhaps you could try
nu-Dealer, jump on the latest bandwaggon, use a trndy and unusual
capitalisation, and indirectly refer back to an earlier age with an
implication of an injection of energy to a stangnant situation?

> > Prior to
> > finding this out, I gave a demo CD to a venue with our name on it, so I'm
> > reluctant to change it ( in case of confusion). Also I really can't be
> > bothered of going through the rigmarole of finding a new name. Any words
> of
> > wisdom chaps?
>
> you could try spelling it differently :)
>
> perhaps in a trendy way that will indentify with today's youth.

Surely that's 'yoot'.

Rev. Andy

Steve Dix

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Jul 23, 2001, 7:07:32 AM7/23/01
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:55:40 +0100, "Richard Brooks"
<ric...@blackfire.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In the international arena I believe this is generally solved by becoming
>(in our case) "BLACKFIRE (UK)" as opposed to just BLACKFIRE for the home
>market.
>
>So how about localising it - you could become "Dealer (Southend)" or
>whatever?
>


The Southend Dealers?

Worked for Suede.


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Joel Cooney

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Jul 23, 2001, 7:09:18 AM7/23/01
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Steve Dix <st...@stevedix.de> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:55:40 +0100, "Richard Brooks"
> <ric...@blackfire.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In the international arena I believe this is generally solved by becoming
> >(in our case) "BLACKFIRE (UK)" as opposed to just BLACKFIRE for the home
> >market.
> >
> >So how about localising it - you could become "Dealer (Southend)" or
> >whatever?
> >
>
>
> The Southend Dealers?

The Soo'side Dealers? mmmm could work I guess. The Southside IS the Soulside
after all....

Joel
Southsider


Joel Cooney

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Jul 23, 2001, 7:10:51 AM7/23/01
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Rev. Andy <an...@dance.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <tllr0hf...@corp.supernews.co.uk>, Michael >
> > Joel Cooney <jco...@ntlworld.com> wrote in messageCowley
> <mjc...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

> > news:9jeemg$n8076$1...@ID-96349.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I dare say this may have happened to a few of you guys in your time
with
> > > bands, so a little advice would be helpful. It took my band bloody
ages to
> > > agree to our current name "Dealer", unfortunately, I was looking in
the
> > > local events listing press & noticed another band playing a gig with
the
> > > same name (:-<). Whats the score with these sorts of conflicts? ( I
seem
> > to
> > > recall a bit of Spinal Tap-esque dialogue relating to this topic).
>
> Oh yes, the 'New Originals' - fabulous name. Perhaps you could try
> nu-Dealer, jump on the latest bandwaggon, use a trndy and unusual
> capitalisation, and indirectly refer back to an earlier age with an
> implication of an injection of energy to a stangnant situation?

Yes perhaps, in the spirit of these "txter" type names, be called "DLR" or
something.


George Weston

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Jul 24, 2001, 12:32:18 PM7/24/01
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Or even spell it like wot it's spoke locally? - Deelah


Mr Mister

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Jul 26, 2001, 8:32:13 AM7/26/01
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What about "Topless Women Tonight"? You're guarenteed to get some ticket
sales even if they do turn around on the door or take their anger and
frustration out on your equipment and yourselves.

It worked for the Bare Naked Ladies.

Call yourselves "Dirty Hot Sex", it's bound to be a name that sticks in
people's minds as well as cause some uproar when the posters go up in the
local area. This will mean that you have a good chance of making it as a
leading story in the local press who will probably contact you and ask what
it's all about and you can say that you are a happening new band with a fuck
you mentality across betwen Eminem and Liam Gallagher, then tell the
reporter to go fuck himself and tell him if he turns up that you'll jump
from the stage and break your guitar over his head, then hang up. It's a
sure fire way to get publicity and frustrated teenagers trying to be hard
men will become your followers. Then you just need to play a muixture of
gangster rap combined with heavy metal guitars and hard n fast drumming.

Just look back at how many bands are pure shite but have become successful
because 13 year olds are looking to become men/women and take out their teen
angst on their surroundings by use of loud and abusive music.

You'll probably become a hate icon for parents and do-gooders who lack any
knowledge of youth culture and don't realse that without people like you for
the kids to adore these same kids would be out vandalising and taking
drugs... they'll probably do that anyway.

You'll make a lot of money, the record company will make a fortune. You'll
blow yours as fast as you earn it. Start to believe your own hype. Develop
huge egos and be pestered with rumours of the band splitting up. You'l
break up, spend 5-6 years in the courts arguing over the money, bills and
royalties and spend all of your remaining money on lawyers and end up with
no mates, bitter and twisted and feeling a sense of "where did it all go
wrong" and blame all those around you for your own stupidity.

GO FOR IT!

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Adam L.M.S.

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Jul 26, 2001, 9:58:43 AM7/26/01
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> > Oh yes, the 'New Originals' - fabulous name. Perhaps you could try
> > nu-Dealer, jump on the latest bandwaggon, use a trndy and unusual
> > capitalisation, and indirectly refer back to an earlier age with an
> > implication of an injection of energy to a stangnant situation?
>
> Yes perhaps, in the spirit of these "txter" type names, be called "DLR" or
> something.
>

Yeah, but then David Lee Roth would sue him.

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Joel Cooney

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Jul 27, 2001, 5:26:43 AM7/27/01
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Mr Mister <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Erm.... can't we just skip all that & just play some tunes to people?


Steve Dix

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Jul 27, 2001, 2:08:10 PM7/27/01
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:32:13 +0100, "Mr Mister" <nos...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>What about "Topless Women Tonight"? You're guarenteed to get some ticket
>sales even if they do turn around on the door or take their anger and
>frustration out on your equipment and yourselves.
>
>It worked for the Bare Naked Ladies.
>

Try "Sex Shop", and have big posters printed saying "Sex Shop Opening
here Tonight".

A couple of friends had posters with that on printed up for a joke,
and stuck it up on the old empty Boots shop in Rugeley town centre.

Result : Consternation! Uproar!! Articles in the press!


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Ivar Arnesen

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Jul 27, 2001, 2:07:18 PM7/27/01
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"Steve Dix" <St...@myfullname.de> wrote
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> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:32:13 +0100, "Mr Mister" <nos...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >What about "Topless Women Tonight"? You're guarenteed to get some ticket
> >sales even if they do turn around on the door or take their anger and
> >frustration out on your equipment and yourselves.
> >
> >It worked for the Bare Naked Ladies.
> >
>
> Try "Sex Shop", and have big posters printed saying "Sex Shop Opening
> here Tonight".
>
> A couple of friends had posters with that on printed up for a joke,
> and stuck it up on the old empty Boots shop in Rugeley town centre.
>
> Result : Consternation! Uproar!! Articles in the press!


My current fave is: Sex Dog

A friend saw this on the frontpage of a swedish newspaper some years ago,
and translated from Swedish it simply means "six died".....

Just ask Mr. Clarke if you don't believe me...

Ivar The Morbid


Steve Dix

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Jul 27, 2001, 3:14:10 PM7/27/01
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:07:18 GMT, "Ivar Arnesen"
<iarn...@NOSPAMchello.no> wrote:


>
>My current fave is: Sex Dog
>

Wasn't that the one that bit Vinny's drummer?

IGMC

Ivar Arnesen

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Jul 27, 2001, 3:28:37 PM7/27/01
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"Steve Dix" <St...@myfullname.de> Wrote
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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:07:18 GMT, "Ivar Arnesen"
> <iarn...@NOSPAMchello.no> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >My current fave is: Sex Dog
> >
>
> Wasn't that the one that bit Vinny's drummer?

Nope, it's Vinny's stand-in (I said stand, harr-harr..), formerly of Duran
Duran.....

Ivar


vinny burns

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Jul 27, 2001, 10:58:24 PM7/27/01
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"Steve Dix" <St...@myfullname.de> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:07:18 GMT, "Ivar Arnesen"
> <iarn...@NOSPAMchello.no> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >My current fave is: Sex Dog
> >
>
> Wasn't that the one that bit Vinny's drummer?

Well, we did tell him not try anything on the first date :-).
All the best.
Vinny.


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