making your own guitar cables...
Chris
soldering iron i wonder how easy it would be to make my own...
i can get Van Damme cable (From maplin for 1.09 pounds/metre ) but i don't
know where to get some quality jacks (like neutric's). can anyone suggest
anything? am i better off with a 40 squid monster?
grant
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Maplin stock Neutrik jacks, I tried buying Van Damme cable from the
Glasgow branch, but there's none in stock - it's special order only. I
finally went with Proel cable/neutriks put together by Stewart Ward of
this parish, worked out cheaper than making them myself.
Grant.
Rick Booth
> i can get Van Damme cable (From maplin for 1.09 pounds/metre ) but i don't
> know where to get some quality jacks (like neutric's).
Also from Maplin, or failing that (they do seem to run out of stock from
time to time) from Studiospares.
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Chris
does anyone know how this would compaire to some factory made cable in terms
of quality + price?
cheers :)
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James Screaton
> I just realised they do after making the post :) gonna try that methinks.
>
> does anyone know how this would compaire to some factory made cable in
terms
> of quality + price?
>
> cheers :)
>
almost certainly cheaper - I have tended to use the Van Damme microphone
cable (part number VU17, which is about £1.49 per metre) as it seems to have
slightly better anti-kink properties.
Cheers
James
William Black
Maplin's do a huge range of jack plugs in loads of different qualities.
I used the expensive gold plated ones, mainly because they look seriously
cool, and they're also easy to solder
Cables vary, but any good quality copper cable will work so well you won't
actually be able to hear any lead generated noise. The oxygen free stuff
looks nice though, and isn't that expensive.
When compared to the cost of the guitar or the amp it's a trivial amount
anyway.
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but i dunno if that would work/be any different than your standard
hotline or whatever. any thoughts? si
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> Chris <Cor...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > i can get Van Damme cable (From maplin for 1.09 pounds/metre ) but i don't
> > know where to get some quality jacks (like neutric's).
>
> Also from Maplin, or failing that (they do seem to run out of stock from
> time to time) from Studiospares.
>
> - rfb
Can RG6 satellite cable be used for guitar leads ? I have a drum of it
left over and it seems just like the expensive guitar cable i have
seen. Has a solid copper conductor foil screen and is flexable.
John.
James Screaton
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if you flex it too much the core will break and it won't work for satellites
either).
Cheers
James
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>>
>>>i can get Van Damme cable (From maplin for 1.09 pounds/metre ) but i don't
>>>know where to get some quality jacks (like neutric's).
The best cables and jacks for guitars - bar none, can be found here.
Best part, you make them yourself. Check on the "Low Capacitance Cables"
link: http://www.billlawrence.com/
Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
than anyone alive, and if he says they're good, believe it. The low
capacitance will make a difference, just as it does in high fidelity
interconnects. Why?, Both are used for high impedance links, and high
cable capacitance can really trim the highs, especially with in 20 ft.
long guitar cable.
________________ Marc Stager
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Stewart Ward
writes
>Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
>than anyone alive,
>and if he says they're good, believe it. The low
>capacitance will make a difference, just as it does in high fidelity
>interconnects. Why?, Both are used for high impedance links, and high
>cable capacitance can really trim the highs, especially with in 20 ft.
>long guitar cable.
What is the capacitance per metre? There's no point in making a claim
without quantifying it.
We make cables using Noisless Klotz cable of just 96pf/metre which is
exceptionally low. Horizon and others are as much as double this
figure. We have an LCR meter to test competitors products and regularly
borrow cables from the local (Basingstoke) music shop.
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Bu...@bugoff.net
>>re:
>>Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
>>than anyone alive,
> Anyone?
You have anyone else in mind? Please, don't say Les Paul.
I'm trying to be serious.
>
> What is the capacitance per metre? There's no point in making a claim
> without quantifying it.
Go to the site, the information's right there.
I looked up the Van Damme instrument cables - they are claimed to be
low capacitance but I didn't see any numbers.
I'm familiar with a great jazz musician named Art Van Damme who played
an instrument rarely associated with jazz during the 50's though 80's.
This is the first I've heard of a Van Damme Cable - I don't believe it's
marketed in the colonies. I emailed them to see if I can find it here.
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>
> >>Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
> >>than anyone alive,
> I'm trying to be serious.
You could try Seymour Duncan maybe, or possibly Seth Lover (inventor of the
humbucker?), hmmm howasabout Kent Armstrong, who I believe still hand-winds
pickups to order (as does his son). Bill Lawrence (is he still alive? Must
be drawing a pension!) I'm sure knows his stuff as much as all these guys,
but "more than anyone"? I doubt it...
> This is the first I've heard of a Van Damme Cable - I don't believe it's
> marketed in the colonies. I emailed them to see if I can find it here.
I think it's rather trading on the tough image of a certain Belgian marshal
arts-ey actor. Anyway I make all my cables with Jean-Claude cable and
Neutrik plugs, all supplied by Maplins. Btw can anyone tell me why Maplins
advertise "Neutrik style" plugs but send genuine Neutrik products?
Bizarre...
JJ
Email: jj at jjquick dot com
Home: www.jjquick.com
William Black
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> <Bu...@BugOff.net> wrote in message
> news:elTpb.40$m55...@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>. Btw can anyone tell me why Maplins
> advertise "Neutrik style" plugs but send genuine Neutrik products?
> Bizarre...
Because sometimes they don't...
Depends on who they bought the last container load from...
David Morton
> I think it's rather trading on the tough image of a certain Belgian
> marshal
> arts-ey actor.
This is the parent company: http://www.vdctrading.com/ and yes you're
right, the MD of VDC told me some years ago that the cable is named after
the Belgian actor.
Jonathan J Quick
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>
> > I think it's rather trading on the tough image of a certain Belgian
> > marshal
> > arts-ey actor.
>
> This is the parent company: http://www.vdctrading.com/ and yes you're
> right, the MD of VDC told me some years ago that the cable is named after
> the Belgian actor.
That was so nearly impressive! That could have been as good as "Jean-Claude
told me the cable is named after him"! But sadly, not even close...
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> <Bu...@BugOff.net> wrote in message
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>
>>>>Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
>>>>than anyone alive,
>>
>>You have anyone else in mind? Please, don't say Les Paul.
>>I'm trying to be serious.
>
> You could try Seymour Duncan maybe, or possibly Seth Lover (inventor of the
> pickups to order (as does his son). Bill Lawrence (is he still alive? Must
> be drawing a pension!) I'm sure knows his stuff as much as all these guys,
> but "more than anyone"? I doubt it...
Sheesh, go to his website. He worked with Kent's dad, Dan, 30 years
ago in NYC where he hand-made some incredibly fine guitar pickups.
He's still at it.
You left out J. R. Butts, inventor of the Filter-Tron pickup found
on Gretsch guitars, IMO the finest pickups ever put on a stock
instrument.
> I think it's rather trading on the tough image of a certain Belgian marshal
> arts-ey actor
I'd rather listen to Art then watch Jean-Claude. Look him up. Art Van
Damme was ( retired) a world class jazz musicians - on the accordion!
Like nothing you can imagine, he was incredible.
________________ Marc Stager
Stewart Ward
writes
>>>Bil Lawrence probably knows more about guitar pickups and electronics
>>>than anyone alive,
>
>> Anyone?
>
>You have anyone else in mind? Please, don't say Les Paul.
>I'm trying to be serious.
one of them.
>>
>> What is the capacitance per metre? There's no point in making a claim
>> without quantifying it.
>
>Go to the site, the information's right there.
>
>I looked up the Van Damme instrument cables - they are claimed to be
>low capacitance but I didn't see any numbers.
'Low capacitance' is a subjective statement. Van Damme is generally
good cable... but there are others just as good and even better.
A brand name is a good place to start when looking for a good product.
But, the cable range made by any manufacturer is not all to the same
performance - price may be an issue for the buyer. So to imply that all
Van Damme cable is equally high quality is not really true.
For example, Celestion make good speakers... some are economy units, so
not all are as good as their premium or classic units. Low cost
speakers supplied to Marshall, for instance, by Celestion are often not
as good as the premium or classic speakers. That's why many up-grade
the speakers in their amps.
So by quoting brand names such as Van Damme or Celestion does not does
guarantee equal quality status between all products they make. The
truth is in the detail... not the brand name.
Hope you find this a useful guide. :-)
Stewart Ward
Quick <ne...@takisunchis.com> writes
>Anyway I make all my cables with Jean-Claude cable and
>Neutrik plugs, all supplied by Maplins. Btw can anyone tell me why Maplins
>advertise "Neutrik style" plugs but send genuine Neutrik products?
>Bizarre...
Because Neutrik have been issuing writs to anyone who sells jacks that
*look* like Neutrik designs. Rightly so too!!! That's theft of
intellectual property through copying. So Maplin, in order to honour
their contract with the customer, they have to send the genuine article.
Those copies are crap anyway... don't buy them. They just *look* the
same.