The Harmonious Blacksmith
Pete Fletcher
Ed Pellow wrote in message <7lr1ak$bro$1...@nclient1-gui.server.virgin.net>...I hoped that I was too young to start losing my memory...Met someone for the first time today, who after discovering that I was a folkie asked me if I'd knew the record: 'The Harmonious Blacksmith' I know the title but I'm not sure how or whyAny information gratefully received. ThanksEd
Geraldine Legard
Pete Fletcher <pe...@10sg.softnet.co.uk> wrote in article
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Hi,
The Harmonious Blacksmith is a piece written by Handel.
Ed Pellow wrote in message
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I hoped that I was too young to start losing my memory...
Met someone for the first time today, who after discovering that I was
a folkie asked me if I'd knew the record: 'The Harmonious Blacksmith' I
know the title but I'm not sure how or why
I remember singing this at Junior School about 500 years ago. I can't
remember all the words, but perhaps someone else can fill them in:
Late and early, brawny and burly,
There at his anvil the blacksmith stands
(2 lines missing)
List to the clamour of his busy hammer
Mark the sparks that upward fly like showers of falling rain
Hear him singing as his sledge goes swinging
Til the glowing iron rings again
I wonder who wrote the words? Strange the things that fly back into your
head from years ago when you can't even remember where you put your car
keys.
With best wishes
Geraldine Legard
Faith Myers
someone asked me if I'd knew the record: 'The Harmonious Blacksmith' I
remember singing this at Junior School about 500 years ago............
This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
(originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
He-Who-Understands-The-Technology claims not to believe me and I would love
to have some corroboration of my claims!!
Faith
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Jon Freeman
Faith Myers <fmy...@xenopus.demon.co.uk> wrote
> This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
> most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
> other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
> (originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
I don't remember "Rhythm & Melody" but I really used to enjoy "Singing
Together" (late 60s/ early 70s). Did it really start in the 50s?
I wonder how people are still singing songs that they first learned from
radio programmes for schools. I think that my all time favourite was "The
Shepherd and his dog" and I still enjoy playing "Hola-Hi" on the melodeon
as it is the only tune that I managed to work out how to play 2 notes at a
time throughout the chorus.
Any other favourites?
Jon
Bob Spowart
Jon Freeman wrote in message ...
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>I don't remember "Rhythm & Melody" but I really used to enjoy "Singing
>Together" (late 60s/ early 70s). Did it really start in the 50s?
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Junior school in the early '60s. I do not know when it started, but it, or
its predecessors, probably went back as far as the '40s or even '30s!!
Bob
Bob Plews
Jon Freeman wrote in message ...
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>> This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
>> most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
>> other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
>> (originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
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>Together" (late 60s/ early 70s). Did it really start in the 50s?
LONG before!!
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>I wonder how people are still singing songs that they first learned....
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>Any other favourites?
I don't sing them any more, but deeply gouged into my memory
from about 1954 - 56 (Liverpool Schools Choir) are :
"Dashing Away With the Smoothing Iron"
"Oh, No, John"
"To Wander is My Greatest Joy" (a translation of the German "folk"
song "Das Wandern ist des Müllers Lust" - nothing to do with lusty
millers, sorry....)...and my all time favourite "British Grenadiers"..
'Some talk of Alexander and some of Hercules,
Of Hector and Lysander and such great men as these....'
Whilst I now realise most songs we sang at school were either
sanitised versions of the originals or deeply patronising/racist/sexist
in their tone and content, I still remember singing them, with great
affection, and occasionally find myself humming them in the car.
And I'm *so* new-age and liberal, it obviously hasn't done me any harm
whatsoever..........
Bob
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George Hawes
>Geraldine Legard <gale...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>someone asked me if I'd knew the record: 'The Harmonious Blacksmith' I
>remember singing this at Junior School about 500 years ago............
>This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
>most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
>other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
>(originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
>He-Who-Understands-The-Technology claims not to believe me and I would love
>to have some corroboration of my claims!!
Not sure about those, but Pywackett's work on The Song Tree is
fondly remembered in these parts (and remains in our tape
collection). Some of the broadcasts even feature my wife's viola
(fortunately it's being played by Mark Emmerson . . )
So my suspicion is it's
he-who-claims-to-understand-the-technology who's in the wrong
here!
G.
Faith Myers
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OLD!!
I too remember To Wander, but that was definitely pre-55 since that was when
I went to High School.
How about "Boney Was A Warrior", definitely won the "favourite song"
category at the end of term!!
Faith
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Geraldine Legard
Faith Myers <fmy...@xenopus.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
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> Thank you for making an old woman feel very
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And thanks for making a happy woman feel very old
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>Geraldine Legard
Bob Spowart
Faith Myers wrote in message <931785937.3935.0.nnrp-
>How about "Boney Was A Warrior", definitely won the "favourite song"
>category at the end of term!!
I remember the year Rule Britannia won that!!! 1962 or 3????????
Bob
Faith Myers
> I remember the year Rule Britannia won that!!! 1962 or 3????????
So, you're younger than I am.....................TOUGH!!
<grin>
At least you remember the programme!!
Ian Anderson
> Faith Myers <fmy...@xenopus.demon.co.uk> wrote
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> > This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
> > most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
> > other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
> > (originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
>
> I don't remember "Rhythm & Melody" but I really used to enjoy "Singing
> Together" (late 60s/ early 70s). Did it really start in the 50s?
Afraid so. And what was the programme that single-handedly destroyed
any hope of English males ever going anywhere near country dancing?
(at least until falling-down beer and the Old Swan Band came along)
--
IA
UkuleleRon
>>
>>I wonder how people are still singing songs that they first learned....
>>
>>Any other favourites?
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>I don't sing them any more, but deeply gouged into my memory
>from about 1954 - 56 (Liverpool Schools Choir) are :
>"Dashing Away With the Smoothing Iron"
>"Oh, No, John"
>"To Wander is My Greatest Joy" (a translation of the German "folk"
>song "Das Wandern ist des Müllers Lust" - nothing to do with lusty
>millers, sorry....)...and my all time favourite "British Grenadiers"..
Hearts of Oak was drilled into me by our overpatriotic primary school
headmaster. We had to do all the actions, pulling the ropes, steering the ship,
folding our arms and standing on one leg (that was supposed to make us look
like jolly jack tars) -God I hated it!
Ron
Tony Fisk
...except that our primary school headmaster substituted 'Go fetch me some
water' for the somewhat less shoe-horned, and better known 'Pour on water'
as the last line, thus throwing some kids totally.
TF
Martin Banks
> Afraid so. And what was the programme that
> single-handedly destroyed
> any hope of English males ever going anywhere near
> country dancing?
> (at least until falling-down beer and the Old Swan Band
> came along)
Music and Movement, IIRC
Andrew Casserley
music.
The best must have been Oh Shennadoh and Barbara Allan. Anybody remember
Shirley Abacair (probably spelt wrong) and her zither
Jan Casserley
Bob Spowart
Faith Myers wrote in message
>Bob Spowart <B...@rspowart.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> I remember the year Rule Britannia won that!!! 1962 or 3????????
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>So, you're younger than I am.....................TOUGH!!
><grin>
>At least you remember the programme!!
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that has still to reach it's ultimate peak of perfection!!!
Bob ;-]
Faith Myers
wine
> that has still to reach it's ultimate peak of perfection!!!
That's what I like to hear a man with true understanding!
Bless you, Bob, I'll love you forever!
Faith
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UkuleleRon
and
Golden Vanity (sanitised version, IIRC Roger the cabin boy got the girl in that
one! - instead of the long swim)
and
Scarborough Fair (dirge version)
Of course in my day (strokes beard thoughtfully and puffs on pretend pipe) we
only had an old upright piano and a wind up gramophone at the National School -
none of your guitars and electric keyboard watsits.
Ron
Why is it called a wireless set when you only get one?
Chris Beeson
> Anybody remember
> Shirley Abacair (probably spelt wrong) and her zither
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Chris Beeson
Tony Fisk
UkuleleRon <ukule...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Of course in my day (strokes beard thoughtfully and puffs on pretend pipe)
we
> only had an old upright piano
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> Why is it called a wireless set when you only get one?
PIANO !?! Luxury ! We 'ad to use our Sammy's ribs as a xylophone in our
school...
BTW is a 'wireless set' the same as an 'unplugged gig' ?
TF
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UkuleleRon
writes:
>PIANO !?! Luxury !
Ere we go again!
We 'ad to use our Sammy's ribs as a xylophone in our
>school...
Not Washboard Sam by any chance?
Ron
Shouldn`t there be a shorter word for monosyllabic?
Tony Fisk
> Shouldn`t there be a shorter word for monosyllabic?
And how *do* you spell dysexlai ?
TF
UkuleleRon
writes:
>> Shouldn`t there be a shorter word for monosyllabic?
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>And how *do* you spell dysexlai ?
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>TF
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Why isn`t `phonetic` spelt the way it sounds
and why is `Mnemonic` such a hard word to remember?
Ron
Peter Thomas
Casserley <Cass...@btinternet.com> enlightened us with
>5 to 11 Monday mornings late 50s early 1960s started off my love of folk
>music.
>Shirley Abacair (probably spelt wrong) and her zither
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Jason Hill
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Jason Hill
Jeremy Main
tradition in their own right! It shouldn't be forgotten, though, that a lot
of the EFDSS knowledge came through Freddie Hambledon (please correct my
spelling), who passed on both his traditional inheritance and the
turn-of-the-(last)-century settings: a pity that my fellow-pupils so little
appreciated who was teaching in the 60s.
As a matter of detail in the original note to this discussion: Handel noted
down a tune whistled by the blacksmith in Edgware: folk tradition maybe
precedes him!
George Hawes wrote in message <3789a...@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net>...
>"Faith Myers" <fmy...@xenopus.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>>Geraldine Legard <gale...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>someone asked me if I'd knew the record: 'The Harmonious Blacksmith' I
>>remember singing this at Junior School about 500 years ago............
>
>>This wasn't on "Singing Together" or "Rhythm & Melody" was it?
>>most of the folk songs I knew (until recently) were learned from one or
>>other of these radio programmes for schools which I heard in the 50s
>>(originally, as a pupil) and then in the late 70s/early80s as a teacher.
bobs...@icloud.com
va...@msn.com
Learnt that in the 60's as a young schoolboy growing up in Jamaica
Somehow these words would come to memory out of the blue😄