Lords propose exemption for un - amplified music.
Roger Gall
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THE LORD REDESDALE
THE BARONESS HARRIS OF RICHMOND
THE BARONESS BUSCOMBE
THE LORD LUKE
Page 110, line 32, at end insert-
"Unamplified Music incidental to certain other activities
The provision of entertainment consisting of the performance of live music
(and not comprising or including the playing of recorded music) is not to be
regarded as the provision of regulated entertainment for the purposes of
this Act to the extent that the conditions specified in paragraph (2) are
satisfied and to the extent that it is incidental to some other activity
that is not itself-
a)entertainment of a description falling within paragraph (2), or
b)the provision of entertainment facilities
(2)The conditions referred to in paragraph (1) are that-
a)the other activity referred to in paragraph (1) is the subject of, and is
undertaken in accordance with a licence granted under this Act; and
b)the number of persons undertaking the activity referred to in paragraph
(a) above does not exceed 100 or such other number of persons permitted to
be present in accordance with the licence referred to in paragraph (a); and
c)the live music being performed is not provided in whole or part by means
of, or with the assistance of, electrical or electronic amplification, or
made more readily audible by such amplification either in the place where
the performance is occurring or in any other place."
Page 110, line 32, at end insert-
"Small premises
The provision of entertainment or entertainment facilities is not to be
regarded as regulated entertainment for the purposes of this Act if-
a)it is undertaken on premises on which no more than 250 persons are
present;
b)no charge is made for entry; and
c)the provision of the entertainment creases no later than 11 pm"
THE LORD REDESDALE
THE BARONESS HARRIS OF RICHMOND
THE BARONESS BUSCOMBE
THE LORD LUKE
Page 110, line 32, at end insert-
"Educational and social establishments
The provision of entertainment or entertainment facilities is not to be
regarded as regulated entertainment for the purposes of this Act if it is
undertaken on the premises of-
a)an educational establishment for purposes directly connected to the
activities of the establishment;
b)a prison for purposes incidental to the activities of the prison;
c)a hospital for purposes incidental to the activities of the hospital; or
d)a museum or public gallery for purposes incidental to the activities of
the museum or public gallery."
THE LORD REDESDALE
THE BARONESS HARRIS OF RICHMOND
THE BARONESS BUSCOMBE
THE LORD LUKE
Page 111, leave out lines 13 and 14
David Kilpatrick
will reverse most of the effects of the bill and create an environment
which positively encourages live music and gives it a premium status
over karaoke (etc) for small venues.
Despite the opinions of people who have found your lobbying excessive, I
think you must take some credit for helping create the conditions where
the Lords were aware of the issues.
Thank you on behalf of everyone here - especially if this does not
inflame the Blair admin's totalitarian lawmaking approach, and actually
DOES turn their efforts arseovertit.
David
ban...@cix.compulink.co.uk
icon...@btconnect.com (David Kilpatrick) wrote:
It is certainly a step in the right direction. It would certainly free
up sessions, as they can be interpreted as being `incidental'. But I'm
not sure what it would do for the archetypal folk club in a
pub......or am I missing something? (a not unlikely prospect, I have
to admit).
Jonathan J Quick
would mean
1) Acoustic music with up to 100 people doesn't need licensing - i.e. folk
clubs are exempt and can charge entry fees or membership
and
2) Amplified music in small premises in ordinary pub hours doesn't need
licensing - i.e. pub gigs for bands etc are exempt
Or have I completely misread it?
JJ
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Anahata
> Roger, this looks the most promising amendment possible. If passed, if
> will reverse most of the effects of the bill
Assuming that the amendment has to be debated in the Commons, I
would be very interested to know what arguments might be used
against it.
It might be an advantage that trad folk music is
regarded as an almost invisible minority, so that this exemption would
be seen to make very little difference. More significantly, it would
defuse many of the richly deserved opportunities for derision with
respect to carol singing, children's entertainers etc. and the more
serious issues relating to concerts in churches.
It won't solve all the problems - though it will restore morris dancing,
tune sessions and singarounds in the bar to an unrestricted
status, it still means that a folk club (even without a PA system) that
charges for admission and pays guests to perform will require the
premises to be licensed. But this seems more reasonable and all that
remains to be seen is whether the uptake of licences will increase in
accordance with Dr Howells' promise that it will be easier and cheaper
to get the PEL element included that under the old system.
> positively encourages live music and
> gives it a premium status over karaoke (etc.)
I find that particularly appealing :-)
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Geoff & Jacqui
until the amendments are debated & passed & the bill's been through all its
stages, nothing's certain. We need to keep in there pushing right up to
Royal Assent to make sure we get something sensible - let the pressure off
and the bu**ers will creep in & do it anyway!!!
What I think we need is a strategy of regular low-key compliments when they
do something praiseworthy & almighty brickbats when they fall off it - I'm
sure the Folk Community can manage that, we are by definition intelligent,
sensitive and horribly cynical - just need to filter out the fatalistic bit
pro tem. .......................
..................... On second thoughts that might not be too
easy!
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