Broadband for musos
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com
9.99, 1 Gb limit).
My only question is that if there's any interest in my vocals/backing
idea, will 1 Gb be enough? given that I've no interest in U-tube or
any videos.
Do other musos here exceed their limits?
Keith Cunningham
<Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm thinking of going for one of the most basic packages (Plusnet,
> 9.99, 1 Gb limit).
>
> My only question is that if there's any interest in my vocals/backing
> idea, will 1 Gb be enough? given that I've no interest in U-tube or
> any videos.
>
I doubt it. Go for Option 2 which has a 15Gb limit.
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Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com
wrote:
> I doubt it. Go for Option 2 which has a 15Gb limit.
How much is that? (with/without VAT).
BTW, any techies reading this: is a modem a modem a modem?
i.e. there's lots of 'freebies' with Plusnet, like 'free,modem', which
you have to pay for if you terminate their service within 12 months,
so supposing I bought an ex-AOL 'free broadband modem' from
an ex-disgruntled AOLer on E-bay, would it work with Plusnet?
Bernard Peek
<663bc60e-9af1-4d1c...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com writes
There are three types of modem. There's the type used for dial-up
connections. There's the type used for cable broadband and then there's
the type used for ADSL broadband.
The advice you will get on any of the techie newsgroups is don't use a
modem. Always choose a router instead. It puts an extra layer of
security between you and the hackers. With one home PC in four carrying
some sort of infection any extra protection you can get is worthwhile.
--
Bernard Peek
London, UK. DBA, Manager, Trainer & Author.
Keith Cunningham
<Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> On 18 May, 10:53, "Keith Cunningham" <keith.cunning...@lycos.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > I doubt it. Go for Option 2 which has a 15Gb limit.
>
> How much is that? (with/without VAT).
>
£14.99 inc. vat per month.
Ian & Hilda Dedic
If your exchange has LLU then I can thoroughly recommend Be:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu-operator/be
https://www.bethere.co.uk/broadband.do
Their Value package (up to 8Mb/s) is £14/month, if you're close enough
to the exchange the Unlimited package (up to 24Mb/s) is £18/month, and
there is no effective limit on either download speed (I get a steady
10Mb/s day in day out) or total usage (I average about 50GB/month, other
people have reported several hundred GB/month).
Ian
Jon Freeman
> BTW, any techies reading this: is a modem a modem a modem?
> i.e. there's lots of 'freebies' with Plusnet, like 'free,modem', which
> you have to pay for if you terminate their service within 12 months,
> so supposing I bought an ex-AOL 'free broadband modem' from
> an ex-disgruntled AOLer on E-bay, would it work with Plusnet?
Get a "broadband router" instead. A look at Dabs.com shows this type of
device new starting at under £20 (my Netgear DG384 is £42) so I might
not be saving much in getting a second hand and inferior type of device.
A couple of benifits I can think of with the broadband router:
They do offer firewall capabilities so you have added protection.
They (I'll say at least usually to cover myself) do not require driver
installation but "just work". When you upgrade to your next version of
Windows, switch over to Linux, etc. your device should still "just work"
without you having to locate and install special software.
There may come a time when you want to connect a second computer to the
Internet. OK, you can set up Internet connection sharing (which would
demand one "master" computer on for the other to connect) but you've got
a good easy route ready for you.
Personally, I don't think the "plain modems" a good investment.
Jon Freeman
Just reading again...
I think you would probably be better off using some web based solution,
eg. MySpace or perhaps a web hosting package for this.
If you want to provide this content from home and through your
broadband, you would be committing yourself to an always accessible
computer ready to serve for just on thing.
Pete
>
> BTW, any techies reading this: is a modem a modem a modem?
> i.e. there's lots of 'freebies' with Plusnet, like 'free,modem', which
> you have to pay for if you terminate their service within 12 months,
I have Plusnet, and what they actually send out on Option 1 is a BT
Voyager 210, which is an ADSL modem/router.
It's an unreliable piece of crap which keeps dropping the connection
for reasons which I can't fathom, and I've replaced mine with a Netgear
Modem/Router/Wireless unit.
Option 2 gets you a wireless router instead, probably a Voyager 2091.
Whether this is any better, I've no idea!
We're a family of 5 and even without any on-line gaming we manage to
chew through about 3Gb of traffic each month, with just web browsing,
email, the odd software download and the occasional wii update.
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Steve at fivetrees
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He's quite right, you know. Providing content to others is quite different
from accessing content from others.
Yell if you need a good hosting package ;).
Steve
(who converted this message back from Arabic to Western European - huh?)
http://www.fivetrees.com
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com
> In message
> >BTW, any techies reading this: is a modem a modem a modem?
> >i.e. there's lots of 'freebies' with Plusnet, like 'free,modem', which
> >you have to pay for if you terminate their service within 12 months,
> >so supposing I bought an ex-AOL 'free broadband modem' from
> >an ex-disgruntled AOLer on E-bay, would it work with Plusnet?
>
> There are three types of modem. There's the type used for dial-up
> connections. There's the type used for cable broadband and then there's
> the type used for ADSL broadband.
>
> The advice you will get on any of the techie newsgroups is don't use a
> modem. Always choose a router instead. It puts an extra layer of
> security between you and the hackers. With one home PC in four carrying
> some sort of infection any extra protection you can get is worthwhile.
Useful tip. Thanks.
The other obvious question I keep forgetting to ask everyone with
broadband is why don't they simply switch of between sessions (as
per dial-up access)? has broadband a lengthy initialization procedure
each time?
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com
> Gill.Smith....@googlemail.com wrote:
> > I'm thinking of going for one of the most basic packages (Plusnet,
> > 9.99, 1 Gb limit).
>
> > My only question is that if there's any interest in my vocals/backing
> > idea, will 1 Gb be enough? given that I've no interest in U-tube or
> > any videos.
>
> > Do other musos here exceed their limits?
>
> Just reading again...
>
> I think you would probably be better off using some web based solution,
> eg. MySpace or perhaps a web hosting package for this.
I have Myspace in mind, both looking for singers and using it to
exchange files.
Colin Irvine
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com squeezed out the following:
It can take a couple of minutes. The main reason for staying connected
is to preserve a fast stable connection once you have one. If you
don't know how to find out if your connection is fast and stable, or
what to do if it isn't, there's less point in staying connected.
--
Colin Irvine
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
Bernard Peek
<891597bb-7b59-4111...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Gill.Sm...@googlemail.com writes
>> The advice you will get on any of the techie newsgroups is don't use a
>> modem. Always choose a router instead. It puts an extra layer of
>> security between you and the hackers. With one home PC in four carrying
>> some sort of infection any extra protection you can get is worthwhile.
>
>Useful tip. Thanks.
>
>The other obvious question I keep forgetting to ask everyone with
>broadband is why don't they simply switch of between sessions (as
>per dial-up access)? has broadband a lengthy initialization procedure
>each time?
It's about the same as with an analogue modem. But routers are usually
left running all the time. They keep the line open so that it is
available as soon as the PC is ready to use it.
Jon Freeman
> The other obvious question I keep forgetting to ask everyone with
> broadband is why don't they simply switch of between sessions (as
> per dial-up access)? has broadband a lengthy initialization procedure
> each time?
It's convenient.
With dialup, you will probably want to free up the phone line for voice
calls. Many modems depend on a computer in some way or other for operation.
---
How do rate adapative (eg BT ADSL Max) products work with a connection
that's "off" a lot of the time?
Stephen Kellett
>broadband is why don't they simply switch of between sessions (as
>per dial-up access)?
Because it costs the same if its on or off.
You don't pay by the minute.
Thus, left enabled my computer is picking up email and news all the
time. For me, this is exceptionally useful (I receive between 2000 and
5000 email per day, about 1% to 2% of which is valid, the rest is trying
to give me a donkey dong whilst wearing designer shoes, carrying a a
designer handbag, buying useless shares, losing weight, popping viagra
and fixing my presumably hopeless credit. And thats not to mention those
kind people in Nigeria that keep telling me they owe me loads of money.
I'm sure theres a good cartoon image in there somewhere for a budding
artist, but thats beyond me.
You can also download files that are so large you wouldn't even try on a
dialup connection. That may be large software installations, MP3s,
movies...
For some people, they stream Radio 4 (or whatever) to a particular
computer.
The usage difference between dialup and broadband is totally different.
Dialup, most users are concerned about cost and everything takes ages.
Broadband, cost isn't a concern, its flat fee. Also because its faster
you'll find some websites very usable that were almost unusable on
dialup.
>has broadband a lengthy initialization procedure
>each time?
About the same as dialup. Except when the broadband part of the exchange
does down, then it doesn't work (but your dialup would still work).
Stephen
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Jon Freeman
>> The other obvious question I keep forgetting to ask everyone with
>> broadband is why don't they simply switch of between sessions (as
>> per dial-up access)?
>
> Because it costs the same if its on or off.
> You don't pay by the minute.
Dial up can be flat rate too.
Ian White
>>has broadband a lengthy initialization procedure
>>each time?
>
>About the same as dialup. Except when the broadband part of the
>exchange does down, then it doesn't work (but your dialup would still
>work).
>
sometimes keep going when the telephone line is partially broken. (It
can survive a break in one side of the twisted pair, albeit at a lower
signal/noise ratio.) So while waiting for a repair to the ordinary
phone, and having incoming calls diverted free to a mobile, you can
still make cheap outgoing calls using a voice-over-internet service like
Skype - and you still have e-mail too.
That has saved our bacon more than once.
--
Ian White