Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Dots for "Home Lads Home"

180 views
Skip to first unread message

mark_bluemel

unread,
Sep 15, 2001, 4:29:18 AM9/15/01
to
Does any one have the tune for this in e-mailable format?

Mark
--
"Bother!" said Pooh "Eyeore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on
the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three, Christopher
Robin, you have the bridge" (Found on the net, Author Unknown)
Mark Bluemel - Unix and Oracle Consultant; Musician and Caller
http://www.bluemel.org.uk Telephone 023 8077 1967

Jacey Bedford

unread,
Sep 15, 2001, 9:17:10 AM9/15/01
to
In article <3ba30f14$1...@news2.vip.uk.com>, mark_bluemel
<mark_b...@0800dial.com> writes

>Does any one have the tune for this in e-mailable format?

Do you mean the poem Sarah Morgan set to music?

You could ask Sarah, she's on e-mail. I only have her old address, but
if you have problems contacting her, drop me a line and I'll give you
her phone number. I don't want to publish that on the net without
permission, though you may find there's a web page for her trio, Hen
Party, with contact details.

Cheers

Jacey


>
>Mark
>--
>"Bother!" said Pooh "Eyeore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on
>the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three, Christopher
>Robin, you have the bridge" (Found on the net, Author Unknown)
>Mark Bluemel - Unix and Oracle Consultant; Musician and Caller
>http://www.bluemel.org.uk Telephone 023 8077 1967
>
>
>

--
Jacey Bedford art...@artisan-harmony.com
ARTISAN http://www.artisan-harmony.com
10 Park Head, Birdsedge, Huddersfield, HD8 8XW. UK
Phone UK 01484-606230 Fax UK 01484-606290

Graham Johnson

unread,
Sep 15, 2001, 3:36:41 PM9/15/01
to
Hi, you can here the tune here
graham

http://shorty.mudcat.org/cgi-shl/as_web.exe?fall99+D+5852665

"mark_bluemel" <mark_b...@0800dial.com> wrote in message
news:3ba30f14$1...@news2.vip.uk.com...

Dave Earl

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 6:16:16 AM9/18/01
to
>Hi, you can here the tune here
>graham

>http://shorty.mudcat.org/cgi-shl/as_web.exe?fall99+D+5852665

Sorry to have to correct you but your link was for "Home Boys Home" which is
not what was being discussed.

I believe it has now been established that the words of "Home Lads Home"
were from a poem by Cicely Fox-Smith to which Sarah Morgan put a tune.

I have the lyrics somewhere but no dots I'm afraid.
Dave Earl
da...@earld.freeserve.co.uk

Sam Satyanadhan

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 10:18:34 AM9/18/01
to
Email to hebra...@threemaids.fsnet.co.uk
website http://SCoFF.welcome.to/henparty

In article <mGTjGPBW...@artifact.demon.co.uk>, Jacey Bedford
<Art...@artifact.demon.co.uk> writes


>In article <3ba30f14$1...@news2.vip.uk.com>, mark_bluemel
><mark_b...@0800dial.com> writes
>>Does any one have the tune for this in e-mailable format?
>
>Do you mean the poem Sarah Morgan set to music?
>
>You could ask Sarah, she's on e-mail. I only have her old address, but
>if you have problems contacting her, drop me a line and I'll give you
>her phone number. I don't want to publish that on the net without
>permission, though you may find there's a web page for her trio, Hen
>Party, with contact details.
>
>Cheers
>
>Jacey
>>
>>Mark
>>--
>>"Bother!" said Pooh "Eyeore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on
>>the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three, Christopher
>>Robin, you have the bridge" (Found on the net, Author Unknown)
>>Mark Bluemel - Unix and Oracle Consultant; Musician and Caller
>>http://www.bluemel.org.uk Telephone 023 8077 1967
>>
>>
>>
>

--
Sam Satyanadhan
Editor, Folk on Tap
edi...@folk-on-tap.demon.co.uk
3 Cranbury Road, Woolston, Southampton, Hants. SO19 2HZ
Tel: 023 8057 0082
Fax: 023 8043 7150

Faith

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 12:03:46 PM9/18/01
to
Try emailing Sarah herself on sarah....@andover.co.uk that should do the
trick!

Faith

anita.gordon

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 12:17:15 PM9/18/01
to
is that the same song as Home Boys Home?
Faith <fa...@xenopus.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1000829061.28585....@news.demon.co.uk...

Faith

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 1:17:31 PM9/18/01
to
"anita.gordon" wrote in message > is that the same song as Home Boys Home?

As someone else has mentioned, no! This one is a poem by Cicely Fox-Smith,
set to music by Sarah Morgan.

Faith


Keith D Myers

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 1:12:38 PM9/18/01
to
If are are being serious NO :-)


--
Keith D Myers ~ www.xenopus.demon.co.uk
Xenopus Systems Limited ~ www.xenopus.co.uk
"anita.gordon" <anita....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:EqKp7.2156$qe2.3...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...

Jeri Corlew

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 6:52:14 PM9/18/01
to

Id heard that Sarah Morgan found the poem in an old magazine and set it to
music. I also heard that the author was a WWI soldier. I suppose if C.F.
Smith sent it to a magazine under that name, she could have been mistaken
for a soldier. I love her nautical poems, many of which have been turned
into songs. I'm not familiar with any of her non-nautical poetry.

Does anyone have any evidence that the poem was written by Cicely Fox
Smith, or are other people relying on "I heard" as much as I am?

Does anyone know the name of the magazine in which the poem was published?

One last note - I sent a midi of the tune to the original requester, and
haven't heard anything. No "thanks, I received it," no "bugger off" -
nada. I hope it arrived OK.

Thanks,
--
Jeri Corlew
(Remove "XXX" to reply)

Jacey Bedford

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 7:53:13 PM9/18/01
to
In article <1000829061.28585....@news.demon.co.uk>, Faith
<fa...@xenopus.co.uk> writes

>Try emailing Sarah herself on sarah....@andover.co.uk that should do the
>trick!
>
>Faith
>
>
>
Thanks for that, Phaith, I'd list her new address.

Jacey

Jacey Bedford

unread,
Sep 18, 2001, 7:53:50 PM9/18/01
to
In article <6ejfqt464v4e24l7u...@4ax.com>, Jeri Corlew
<jeri...@tds.net> writes

>On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:17:31 +0100, "Faith" <fa...@xenopus.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"anita.gordon" wrote in message > is that the same song as Home Boys Home?
>>
>>As someone else has mentioned, no! This one is a poem by Cicely Fox-Smith,
>>set to music by Sarah Morgan.
>
>Id heard that Sarah Morgan found the poem in an old magazine and set it to
>music. I also heard that the author was a WWI soldier. I suppose if C.F.
>Smith sent it to a magazine under that name, she could have been mistaken
>for a soldier. I love her nautical poems, many of which have been turned
>into songs. I'm not familiar with any of her non-nautical poetry.

William Pint & Felicia Dale have recorded a number of C Fox Smith poems
set to music by William.

They are touring the UK at the moment

Lovely stuff!

Dave Earl

unread,
Sep 19, 2001, 7:26:59 AM9/19/01
to
A lot of people are doing things with Fox-Smith works.

Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman have some of her stuff on CD and so have "Salt
of The Earth" (Danny and Joyce McLeod & Barry and Ingrid Temple).

I understand Danny has done a lot of research into C F-S and may be willing
to share what he knows with interested people. I have an e-mail address for
him if you want to contact me off group.

--
Dave Earl
da...@earld.freeserve.co.uk


mark_bluemel

unread,
Sep 19, 2001, 4:02:10 PM9/19/01
to
"Jeri Corlew" <jeri...@tds.net> wrote in message
news:6ejfqt464v4e24l7u...@4ax.com...

>
> One last note - I sent a midi of the tune to the original requester, and
> haven't heard anything. No "thanks, I received it," no "bugger off" -
> nada. I hope it arrived OK.
>
Sorry Jeri, I'm a bit behind here. Arrived safe and sound. Thanks

Mark


Jeri Corlew

unread,
Sep 19, 2001, 9:21:36 PM9/19/01
to

I bought the Pinch O' Salt CD, 'Seaboot Duff & Handpike Gruel' that came
with a little booklet last year when Joyce and Danny were here in the US.
(Also got the Salt of the Earth CD) That's what got me interested in C.F.
Smith. Although I'd heard some of the songs before, I never knew where
they came from. I think both CDs are wonderful.

I still wonder why Home, Lads, Home is associated with her. I wonder if
it's a case of someone saying "that sounds like C.F. Smith," and others
translating that into "C.F.Smith wrote that," and passing that around.
Likewise, I wouldn't be too surprised to hear she really did write it. I
simply don't know.

Jeri Corlew

unread,
Sep 19, 2001, 9:23:42 PM9/19/01
to

Mark, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound huffy. I just wasn't sure you got
it, and I suspect people sometimes immediately plonk attachments due to
concerns about viruses.

Thanks for responding, though.

Dave Earl

unread,
Sep 20, 2001, 5:48:30 AM9/20/01
to
>I still wonder why Home, Lads, Home is associated with her. I wonder if
it's a case of someone saying "that sounds like C.F. Smith,"

As I understand it (and I may be wrong) Danny found the C F-S version whilst
researching her works. To the best of my knowledge Sarah Morgan is aware of
this and accepts this as a fact. After all she stated from the start that
she found a poem by someone else.


--
Dave Earl
da...@earld.freeserve.co.uk


Jeri Corlew

unread,
Sep 23, 2001, 7:16:10 PM9/23/01
to

I e-mailed Danny McLeod.

He told me the name of the poem was 'Homeward' and was written by C.F.S.
It appears in her book of poetry 'Fighting Men' published in 1916, and also
was included in her book 'Songs and Chanties 1914-1916' published in 1919
by Elkin Mathews (London) which was a compilation of her works, ' Songs in
Sail' (1914), 'Sailor Town' (1914), The Naval Crown'(1915), and 'Fighting
Men' (1916).

Danny found and purchased her original manuscript (in her own
handwriting) of many of her earlier poems written prior to 1920.
This poem is among them.

He said he'd talked to Sarah Morgan and that she'd discovered it in the
magazine 'This England' (1984) and was entitled 'Going Home Together'.
The writer had been a soldier, who credited the poem to "anonymous." He
also changed the first line to be about India, and changed the horses
names.

Per Danny McLeod, here is the poem as it was written. (And many, MANY
thanks to Danny for sharing this wealth of information!)

HOMEWARD

Words. C. Fox Smith Tune. Sarah Morgan

Behind a trench in Flanders, the sun was dropping low,
With tramp and creak and jingle I heard the gun teams go;
And some thing seemed to 'mind me, a-dreaming as I lay,
Of my old Hampshire village at the quiet end of day.

Home, lad, home, all among the corn and clover!
Home, lad, home when the time for work is over!
Oh, there's rest for horse and man when the longest day is done,
And they go home together at setting of the sun!

Brown thatch and gardens blooming with lily and with rose,
And the cool shining river so pleasant where he flows,
Wide fields of oats and barley, and elderflower like foam,
And the sky gold with sunset, and the horses going home!

Old Captain, Prince and Blossom, I see them all so plain,
With tasselled ear-caps nodding along the leafy lane,
There's a bird somewhere calling, and the swallows flying low,
And the lads sitting sideways, and singing as they go.

Well, gone is many a lad now, and many a horse gone too,
Of all the lads and horses in those old fields I new;
There's Dick that died at Cuinchy, and Prince beside the guns,
On the red road of glory, a mile or two from Mons!

Dead lads and shadowy horses --- I see them just the same,
I see them and I know them, and name them each by name,
Going down to shining waters when all the West's aglow,
And the lads sitting sideways and singing as they go.

Home, lad, home . . . with the sunlight on their faces !
Home, lad, home . . . to the quiet happy places!
There's rest for horse and man when the hardest fight is done,
And they go home together at setting of the sun!

0 new messages