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Paul Hyett

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Apr 14, 2004, 1:25:50 AM4/14/04
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ISTM that unless a song goes to, or close to, the top of the charts, the
record company and/or artist must surely lose money, since promotional
videos are expensive to make.

Anyway - I haven't seen a list of the most expensive ones ever, but I
imagine that Red Hot Chili's 'Californication' must be right up there.
Very elaborate computer animation.

BTW, when was it that promotional videos became standard? I don't recall
seeing many before 1980 - IIRC, Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall'
caused quite a stir.
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Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett

mick

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Apr 14, 2004, 4:38:40 AM4/14/04
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Paul Hyett wrote:

>
> BTW, when was it that promotional videos became standard? I don't recall
> seeing many before 1980 - IIRC, Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall'
> caused quite a stir.

Although there were videos before 1980 they became "standard" with the
growth of music shows, and channels like Music Box and MTV.

mick


Galloise65

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Apr 14, 2004, 12:29:15 PM4/14/04
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Paul Hyett <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message news:<h0TiL1Ae...@activist.demon.co.uk>...

They should ditch music videos and bring back Legs&Co!!

Moley

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Apr 14, 2004, 1:38:37 PM4/14/04
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LOL ...now your really showing your age ! ;o)

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Paul Hyett

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Apr 14, 2004, 1:21:01 PM4/14/04
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I wonder if anyone has done a study as to whether they significantly
increase the sales of a single?

Paul Hyett

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Apr 14, 2004, 1:23:18 PM4/14/04
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In uk.music.charts on Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Galloise65 wrote :
>>
>> BTW, when was it that promotional videos became standard? I don't recall
>> seeing many before 1980 - IIRC, Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall'
>> caused quite a stir.
>
>They should ditch music videos and bring back Legs&Co!!

I assume you don't mean with the same personnel - at the age they must
be now, I don't think they would exactly boost TOTP's ratings! :)

Jeff Lawrence

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Apr 14, 2004, 2:09:48 PM4/14/04
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"Paul Hyett" <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message
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I guess they would for songs aimed at the teenie market. But surely once
you get old enough to see past all the image and hype, videos shouldn't
really
matter that much, just how good the song is.
Saying that however, songs that have significant, clever or memorable videos
probably would do better as they would more likely to be in people's mind
when they are out shopping and browsing through the record shops, etc.
Cheers
Jeff


mick

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Apr 14, 2004, 2:17:38 PM4/14/04
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Jeff Lawrence wrote:
> "Paul Hyett" <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:EfLbB7A9...@activist.demon.co.uk...
>> In uk.music.charts on Wed, 14 Apr 2004, mick wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, when was it that promotional videos became standard? I don't
> recall
>>>> seeing many before 1980 - IIRC, Pink Floyd's Another Brick In The Wall'
>>>> caused quite a stir.
>>>
>>> Although there were videos before 1980 they became "standard" with the
>>> growth of music shows, and channels like Music Box and MTV.
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has done a study as to whether they significantly
>> increase the sales of a single?
>

> Saying that however, songs that have significant, clever or memorable


videos
> probably would do better as they would more likely to be in people's mind
> when they are out shopping and browsing through the record shops, etc.

The video for Take On Me by A-Ha certainly made an impact at the time and
most probably boosted sales for that song a lot.

mick

Moley

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Apr 14, 2004, 2:38:47 PM4/14/04
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So were Pan's People before or after legs & co?

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mick

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Apr 14, 2004, 5:15:04 PM4/14/04
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Moley wrote:
> So were Pan's People before or after legs & co?

Before.

mick


Liam Gretton

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Apr 14, 2004, 6:18:36 PM4/14/04
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Jeff Lawrence wrote:

> Saying that however, songs that have significant, clever or memorable videos
> probably would do better as they would more likely to be in people's mind
> when they are out shopping and browsing through the record shops, etc.

I love music vids. I've got hours and hours of MTV's Party Zone and Chill
Out Zone on tape, but I wish I could go out and buy them.

I don't understand why you can't buy a DVD equivalent of those awful 'Now
That's What I Call' compilations.

The only singles I've bought in nearly 20 years are DVD singles.

Dom Robinson

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Apr 14, 2004, 7:23:24 PM4/14/04
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404142314400.14515-100000@dms1>, l...@star.le.ac.uk
says...

> I don't understand why you can't buy a DVD equivalent of those awful 'Now
> That's What I Call' compilations.
>
Now 2001 was the last one, and that's now deleted: http://tinyurl.com/32h4f

Presumably they don't sell enough to make the video copyright clearance costs
worthwhile?
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Kevin Clark

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Apr 15, 2004, 7:32:11 AM4/15/04
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Paul Hyett wrote:
> ISTM that unless a song goes to, or close to, the top of the charts, the
> record company and/or artist must surely lose money, since promotional
> videos are expensive to make.
>
> Anyway - I haven't seen a list of the most expensive ones ever, but I
> imagine that Red Hot Chili's 'Californication' must be right up there.
> Very elaborate computer animation.

Nope. Janet Jackson features in a lot though!

1. "Scream"
Cost: $7,000,000+
Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)

2. "Victory"
Cost: $2,700,000+
Artist: Puff Daddy (featuring Notorious B.I.G. & Busta Rhymes)

3. "Heartbreaker"
Cost: $2,500,000+
Artist: Mariah Carey
eek!!!

4. "What's It Gonna Be"
Cost: $2,400,000+
Artist: Busta Rhymes (featuring Janet Jackson)

5. "Larger Than Life"
Cost: $2,100,000+
Artist: Backstreet Boys

6. "Miami"
Cost: $2,000,000+
Artist: Will Smith

7. "She's a Bitch"
Cost: $2,000,000+
Artist: Missy Elliot

8. "Unpretty"
Cost: $1,600,000+
Artist: TLC

9. "November Rain"
Cost: $1,500,000+
Artist: Guns N' Roses

10. "Girlfriend/Boyfriend"
Cost: $1,500,000+
Artist: Blackstreet (featuring Janet Jackson)

Paul Hyett

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Apr 15, 2004, 1:26:49 AM4/15/04
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In uk.music.charts on Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Jeff Lawrence wrote :
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has done a study as to whether they significantly
>> increase the sales of a single?
>
>I guess they would for songs aimed at the teenie market. But surely once
>you get old enough to see past all the image and hype, videos shouldn't
>really
>matter that much, just how good the song is.

Of course in recent years there have been Maxi-CD's which include the
music video. I have occasionally bought them instead of the plain
2-track CD - but I've found their playback can be unreliable, especially
on an older PC.

>Saying that however, songs that have significant, clever or memorable videos
>probably would do better as they would more likely to be in people's mind
>when they are out shopping and browsing through the record shops, etc.

So they do their job, in other words.

Paul Hyett

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Apr 15, 2004, 1:31:07 AM4/15/04
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In uk.music.charts on Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Liam Gretton wrote :
>
>I love music vids. I've got hours and hours of MTV's Party Zone and Chill
>Out Zone on tape, but I wish I could go out and buy them.

I tape a lot of videos where I like the songs, but not enough to buy


them.
>
>I don't understand why you can't buy a DVD equivalent of those awful 'Now
>That's What I Call' compilations.

Probably copyright issues separate from just the plain music - payment
for actors, extras, etc.

I wonder how much David Boreanaz was paid for appearing in Dido's 'White
Flag' video, for instance.

Thanatos

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Apr 15, 2004, 5:34:04 PM4/15/04
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Varicose Veins & Co?

Sarch

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Apr 15, 2004, 8:32:10 PM4/15/04
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:32:11 +0000, Kevin Clark wrote:

> 1. "Scream"
> Cost: $7,000,000+
> Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)

Gawd knows how this video cost that much. There's nothing "advanced" in it.

Sarch

Paul Hyett

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Apr 15, 2004, 1:32:48 PM4/15/04
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In uk.music.charts on Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Kevin Clark wrote :
>
>1. "Scream"
>Cost: $7,000,000+
>Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)

What about 'Thriller'?

Sarch

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Apr 16, 2004, 12:46:44 AM4/16/04
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:32:48 +0100, Paul Hyett wrote:

> What about 'Thriller'?

A measly $1 million as far as I'm aware.

Sarch

Daniel Titley

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Apr 16, 2004, 4:59:50 AM4/16/04
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Kevin Clark <kevin...@imm.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<407E72BB...@imm.ox.ac.uk>...

> Paul Hyett wrote:
> > ISTM that unless a song goes to, or close to, the top of the charts, the
> > record company and/or artist must surely lose money, since promotional
> > videos are expensive to make.
> >
> > Anyway - I haven't seen a list of the most expensive ones ever, but I
> > imagine that Red Hot Chili's 'Californication' must be right up there.
> > Very elaborate computer animation.
>
> Nope. Janet Jackson features in a lot though!
>
> 1. "Scream"
> Cost: $7,000,000+
> Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)

Never seen it.



> 2. "Victory"
> Cost: $2,700,000+
> Artist: Puff Daddy (featuring Notorious B.I.G. & Busta Rhymes)

Never even heard of it.

> 3. "Heartbreaker"
> Cost: $2,500,000+
> Artist: Mariah Carey

This is quite a good video. You can clearly see the money on screen.

> 4. "What's It Gonna Be"
> Cost: $2,400,000+
> Artist: Busta Rhymes (featuring Janet Jackson)

Horrible video. Both Busta Rhymes and Janet Jackson look terible.

> 5. "Larger Than Life"
> Cost: $2,100,000+
> Artist: Backstreet Boys

Lots of CGI. Not very good, but at least you can see where the money
went.

> 6. "Miami"
> Cost: $2,000,000+
> Artist: Will Smith

An OK video. Lots of extras (the actor kind), some nice effect shots
and tons of expensive cars, planes and boats. Again you can see the
money on screen.

> 7. "She's a Bitch"
> Cost: $2,000,000+
> Artist: Missy Elliot

Never seen it.

> 8. "Unpretty"
> Cost: $1,600,000+
> Artist: TLC

Why was this so expensive?

> 9. "November Rain"
> Cost: $1,500,000+
> Artist: Guns N' Roses

Can not remember seeing it.

> 10. "Girlfriend/Boyfriend"
> Cost: $1,500,000+
> Artist: Blackstreet (featuring Janet Jackson)

Who is Blackstreet?

Kevin Clark

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Apr 16, 2004, 6:10:47 AM4/16/04
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The Artist wrote:
> "Kevin Clark" emitted :

>
>
>>3. "Heartbreaker"
>>Cost: $2,500,000+
>>Artist: Mariah Carey
>>eek!!!
>
>
> How in the heck did that video cost 2.5 million!!!

I got the list from here
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/musicvideos/musicvideos.html

Looks like they had to reshoot it cos it was cack.

Dom Robinson

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Apr 16, 2004, 8:20:10 AM4/16/04
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In article <6bc0322c.04041...@posting.google.com>,
d.ti...@bigfoot.com says...

> > 6. "Miami"
> > Cost: $2,000,000+
> > Artist: Will Smith
>
> An OK video. Lots of extras (the actor kind), some nice effect shots
> and tons of expensive cars, planes and boats. Again you can see the
> money on screen.
>
And one of the few times where the words "Fuck me" don't get edited out on any
time of broadcast, possibly because of the effect put on the sound which could
make it slip by unnoticed if you're not looking for it, and they'd sometimes
show a censored version but at the time of release it was on music TV a lot
and was shown uncut a number of times.

http://dvdfever.co.uk/reviews/willsmit.shtml

Paul Hyett

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Apr 16, 2004, 1:02:33 AM4/16/04
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But that was 20 years ago - what would the equivalent be, now?

Nick

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Apr 16, 2004, 4:43:34 PM4/16/04
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:32:10 +1000, Sarch <sarch_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

There's nothing "advanced" in it today, but look at the date it was
made.

--Nick.
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Dom Robinson

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Apr 17, 2004, 7:08:25 AM4/17/04
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In article <9bh080tb02cc6nub5...@4ax.com>,
nickm...@spamcop.net says...

> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:32:10 +1000, Sarch <sarch_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:32:11 +0000, Kevin Clark wrote:
> >
> >> 1. "Scream"
> >> Cost: $7,000,000+
> >> Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)
> >
> >Gawd knows how this video cost that much. There's nothing "advanced" in it.
>
> There's nothing "advanced" in it today, but look at the date it was
> made.
>
There was nothing "advanced" in it then, either.

Nick

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Apr 17, 2004, 9:21:49 AM4/17/04
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:08:25 +0100, Dom Robinson
<murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <9bh080tb02cc6nub5...@4ax.com>,
>nickm...@spamcop.net says...
>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:32:10 +1000, Sarch <sarch_...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:32:11 +0000, Kevin Clark wrote:
>> >
>> >> 1. "Scream"
>> >> Cost: $7,000,000+
>> >> Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)
>> >
>> >Gawd knows how this video cost that much. There's nothing "advanced" in it.
>>
>> There's nothing "advanced" in it today, but look at the date it was
>> made.
>>
>There was nothing "advanced" in it then, either.

Oooh! Get her!

Dom Robinson

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Apr 17, 2004, 6:14:44 PM4/17/04
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In article <6rb2805mifdr109vs...@4ax.com>,
nickm...@spamcop.net says...

> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:08:25 +0100, Dom Robinson
> <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <9bh080tb02cc6nub5...@4ax.com>,
> >nickm...@spamcop.net says...
> >> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:32:10 +1000, Sarch <sarch_...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:32:11 +0000, Kevin Clark wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1. "Scream"
> >> >> Cost: $7,000,000+
> >> >> Artist: Michael Jackson (featuring Janet Jackson)
> >> >
> >> >Gawd knows how this video cost that much. There's nothing "advanced" in it.
> >>
> >> There's nothing "advanced" in it today, but look at the date it was
> >> made.
> >>
> >There was nothing "advanced" in it then, either.
>
> Oooh! Get her!
>
Well, all that money spent on the video and what mock-up of a futuristic
version of a game did they have? Pong! And 'Pong' indeed because the song and
video stank!
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