Bye everyone
Lou Ravi
is fortunately going to swallow up Hackney but is, unfortunately, going
to also swallow up the Café Italia in Frith Street, London, which would
be a tragedy that the world would have difficulty overcoming.
Not that it matters really because the clients would also go down the
black hole. However I've realised that as I live far closer to CERN than
you do, I'll be the first to go among the miscers. Bye then. If you have
a couple of nanoseconds before you disappear to send a reply; please do.
mogga
Bing Trotsky
j.mu...@libertysurf.fr says...
> Tomorrow is the big day I believe, the day we create the black hole that
> is fortunately going to swallow up Hackney but is, unfortunately, going
> to also swallow up the Café Italia in Frith Street, London, which would
> be a tragedy that the world would have difficulty overcoming.
>
My opinion. It's slighly more likely that the LHC will create a black
hole that will destroy the world than it will lead to the Higgs Boson
being observed. However it should be noted that I consider it
significantly less likely that the Higgs Boson will be proven to exist
than I am likely to win the lottery, and I don't buy lottery tickets.
--
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Live fast, die only if strictly necessary.
Alex Buell
magically appears in front of Lou Ravi:
> Tomorrow is the big day I believe, the day we create the black hole
> that is fortunately going to swallow up Hackney but is,
> unfortunately, going to also swallow up the Caf_ Italia in Frith
> Street, London, which would be a tragedy that the world would have
> difficulty overcoming.
Just because they're switching the bloody thing on doesn't mean it's
going to create a black hole the minute it powers up!
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Fearsome grindings.
mogga
Oh as long as it's not the minute they switch it on that's fine?
They've given odds of 50M to 1.
The odds of winning the EuroMillions lottery jackpot are 1 in
76,275,360. That doesn't roll over every week.
Prai Jei
continuum:
Let's wait until (a) they've announced that the first full-power trial has
been a success and (b) we're still here.
Followed by (c) well all very interesting but it didn't quite pack enough
oomph into these proton/antiproton beams we need to build an even bigger
one.
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mogga
>On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:48:28 +0100, mogga <d...@NOSPAMPLEASEmogga.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:11:48 +0100, Alex Buell
>><alex....@munted.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:50:52 +0200, I waved a wand and this message
>>>magically appears in front of Lou Ravi:
>>>
>>>> Tomorrow is the big day I believe, the day we create the black hole
>>>> that is fortunately going to swallow up Hackney but is,
>>>> unfortunately, going to also swallow up the Caf_ Italia in Frith
>>>> Street, London, which would be a tragedy that the world would have
>>>> difficulty overcoming.
>>>
>>>Just because they're switching the bloody thing on doesn't mean it's
>>>going to create a black hole the minute it powers up!
>>
>>Oh as long as it's not the minute they switch it on that's fine?
>>
>>They've given odds of 50M to 1.
>>
>>The odds of winning the EuroMillions lottery jackpot are 1 in
>>76,275,360. That doesn't roll over every week.
>
>Are there any odds on mindcontrol being proven to exist?
No.
Mr. Broadhurst
"Lou Ravi" <j.mu...@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
news:48c6711e$0$864$ba4a...@news.orange.fr...
> Tomorrow is the big day I believe, the day we create the black hole that
> is fortunately going to swallow up Hackney but is, unfortunately, going to
> also swallow up the Café Italia in Frith Street, London, which would be a
> tragedy that the world would have difficulty overcoming.
http://www.b3ta.com/board/8675542
Baldoni
If the Bar Italia goes where will all those yuppy twats buy their
cocaine from ?
--
Count Baldoni
Carlton Miniott
>
> I should probably ask one of them wot works there. I might do that
> now, actually.
We've got a tame one over in Ye Shedde, shall I ask him?
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Mr. Broadhurst
"Oxford comma" <mal...@invalid.really.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
[stuff]
> We'll get news of the Higgs officially within six months
> probably as the LEC at the end of its life was working near the lower
> end of the LHC energy ranges.
Closely followed by the news that a larger machine is being built to
discover the components of the Higgs - Gabriel and Satan.
bof
Buell <alex....@munted.org.uk> writes
To my mind the first minute, the first week, the first month or the
first year isn't an issue. Switch it on in 100years and I won't care
either way, either that or I can say from nextlife, there y go, bloody
told you so, you wankers[1].
[1] Sadly I give being in nextlife worse odds than the "50,000,000:1"
catastrophe scenario.
--
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Steve Terry
forest
by deactivating the Hydrogen bomb stockpile at US RAF Woodbridge.
Will do the same if CERN looks like creating stranglets
Steve Terry
Bing Trotsky
mal...@invalid.really.invalid.invalid says...
>
> I'm wondering why you think they won't see a Higgs?
>
I don't trust the standard model of particle physics. It strikes me that
particle physicists are (naturally) somewhat hung up on the idea of
discrete particles. My view is that by the time the Higgs is found we'll
already have found some traces that show a complete new level. If
"particles" are defined by "energy harmonics" rather than having a clear
existence as things then that's pretty much inevitable in my view.
Sam Nelson
Stephen Gower <socks-...@earth.li> writes:
> Oxford comma <mal...@invalid.really.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >They're pretty certain that they'd seen the Higgs before they shut the
> >LEC down [...] Nothing official, so it wasn't in the press, and no absolute proof.
>
> It's mentioned (uncited) in Wikipedo
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Electron-Positron_Collider#Results
I like the bit about how the Z-boson's mass depended on railway timetables.
It's just as well the experiments were taking place in Switzerland; in
Britain, the measurement differences would have looked worryingly random.
--
SAm.
Sam Nelson
Stephen Gower <socks-...@earth.li> writes:
> Prai Jei <pvsto...@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >Followed by (c) well all very interesting but it didn't quite pack enough
> >oomph into these proton/antiproton beams we need to build an even bigger
> >one.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Proposed_upgrade
Bloody researchers: give 'em the tiniest hint that what they're after might
just be vaguely possible, sometimes, and they decide it's a 100% result and
piss off to the next thing because all of a sudden it's boring.
--
SAm.
Sam Nelson
Marc Wilson <E-0C0013...@cleopatra.co.uk> writes:
> >I don't trust the standard model of particle physics. It strikes me that
> >particle physicists are (naturally) somewhat hung up on the idea of
> >discrete particles. My view is that by the time the Higgs is found we'll
> >already have found some traces that show a complete new level. If
> >"particles" are defined by "energy harmonics"
Vibrating strings, perhaps?
> rather than having a clear
> >existence as things then that's pretty much inevitable in my view.
God (for it is She): OK, they've got to 7TeV; time to add the next layer...
> It could be a blind men/elephant scenario, though. We're using the
> language for describing things we can point to to describe things we
> can't, and it's evident that treating fundamental particles as though
> they are very small brightly coloured billiard balls is not helpful.
Chemistry teachers still talk about electrons orbiting nuclei.
> But the standard model does work to a great extent, so we shouldn't cast
> it aside until we have something that's better.
Anyone else hear the R4 programme last night in which particle accelerators
were likened to watching a football match from a different planet, through
ever-larger telescopes, and trying to work out the rules of the game? It's
a very appealing metaphor, that can be extended in all sorts of interesting
ways.
--
SAm.
Bing Trotsky
E...@cleopatra.co.uk says...
> In uk.misc, (Bing Trotsky) wrote in
> <MPG.2331907bc...@news.aqxs.net>::
> language for describing things we can point to to describe things we
> can't, and it's evident that treating fundamental particles as though
> they are very small brightly coloured billiard balls is not helpful.
>
> it aside until we have something that's better.
>
That's about the size of it. It's a model that has some limited ability
to be predictive. I just think we're at the stage where any future major
developments won't be anything to do with it.
Sam Nelson
says...
> s...@ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) writes:
>
> > Anyone else hear the R4 programme last night in which particle
> > accelerators were likened to watching a football match from a
> > different planet, through ever-larger telescopes, and trying to work
> > out the rules of the game? It's a very appealing metaphor, that can
> > be extended in all sorts of interesting ways.
>
Rays! I believe that's the appropriate term.
It did occur to me that the LHC is an even bigger telescope with which
we hope to catch a glimpse of the club-owner/chairman/whatever.
--
SAm.
Steve Firth
> It did occur to me that the LHC is an even bigger telescope with which
> we hope to catch a glimpse of the club-owner/chairman/whatever.
I still want to know where they are getting the hadrosaurs.
Sam Nelson
@malloc.co.uk says...
> I still want to know where they are getting the hadrosaurs.
Not to mention how on earth they get them into a pipe as narrow as that.
--
SAm.
Lou Ravi
> Nobody is saying that the standard model is all there is
What do you consider to be the 'standard model'?
Lou Ravi
Chris Eilbeck
> August West <aug...@kororaa.com> wrote:
>
>> Roman Abramovich is the Higgs Boson?
>
> This very lunchtime, my good lady Wife described the LHC as "Stephen
> Hawking's Gadget".
Hawking being a cosmologist rather than a particle physicist? Oh well.
Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck
Mr. Broadhurst
"Chris Eilbeck" <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> wrote
>> This very lunchtime, my good lady Wife described the LHC as "Stephen
>> Hawking's Gadget".
>
> Hawking being a chair-bound spazz rather than a particle physicist? Oh
> well.
That's a little harsh, don't you think?
Sam Nelson
says...
Yebbut, how the very large works depends on how the very small works.
Innit.
--
SAm.
Chris Eilbeck
> "Chris Eilbeck" <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> wrote
>
>>> This very lunchtime, my good lady Wife described the LHC as "Stephen
>>> Hawking's Gadget".
>>
>> Hawking being a chair-bound spazz rather than a particle physicist? Oh
>> well.
>
> That's a cute little ass, don't you think?
Not sure I'd go there, d00d.
Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck
Chris Eilbeck
Depends on what your GUT feeling tells you.
Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck
Sam Nelson
says...
I'd rather dip a ToE in the water.
--
SAm.
Mr. Broadhurst
"Chris Eilbeck" <use...@hyperspace.org.uk> wrote
>>>> This very lunchtime, my good lady Wife described the LHC as "Stephen
>>>> Hawking's Gadget".
>>>
>>> Hawking being a chair-bound spazz rather than a particle physicist? Oh
>>> well.
>>
>> That's a cute little ass, don't you think?
>
> I'd fuck him.
30 - 15.
Mr. Broadhurst
"August West" <aug...@kororaa.com> wrote
>>> Hawking being a cosmologist rather than a particle physicist? Oh well.
>>
>> Yebbut, how the very large works depends on how the very small dork.
>> Innit.
>
> He just looks small 'cos he's in a cripple chariot.
Chris Eilbeck
> I've already fucked him!
Chair and share alike then!
Chris
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Steve Terry
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Chris Eilbeck
Marcus Houlden
wrote the following to uk.misc:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:45:30 +0100, Chris Eilbeck wrote:
>
>> "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes:
>
><snip>
>
>>> Hawkins is a Russian spaceman!? When did he join the Ruskies?
>>
>> When he quit The Darkness.
>
> He was a pretty good bassist, considering.
mh.
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