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711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

Rachel comes home one day to find Chandler eating a delicious cheesecake
which should have been delivered to Mrs.Braverman downstairs. She calls
him a thief, but she can't resist its creaminess either, and together
they greedily gorge themselves.

As Chandler predicts, Mrs.Braverman orders a free cheesecake to replace
the one that she didn't get, but this too comes to his door. Somehow the
guilty pair manage to resist temptation, leave the box outside the lady's
door, and then go to lunch together as a substitute for their longings.

Following their meal, which somehow neither of them paid for, Chandler
& Rachel notice the cheesecake box is still in the hallway, so overcome
with lust they make excuses for Mrs.Braverman's absence, until Rachel
realises she can hear the old lady, scoops up the box, and the pair
scuttle guiltily up the stairs!

After eating a third of the cheesecake they are interrupted by Joey, so
Rachel tells him that it's tofu to put him off, then later on Chandler
is shocked to find her eating the cheesecake without him. She tries to
deny it, but her mouth is full, so he offers her $100 to whistle, but
cheesecake squirts out instead!

Chandler is furious with her, but she blackmails him by warning him that
Monica & Joey mustn't find out, or they'll be branded as dessert stealers
living outside the law. Greed overwhelms the pair as they fight over the
remaining cheesecake, until Rachel threatens to tell Monica that he said
her cheesecake was dry & mealy!

Chandler agrees to spilt the cheesecake, and to Rachel's delight she gets
the slightly larger half, and warns him that she's not prepared to share
it - at which point she trips & drops her cheesecake on the hall floor!
Chandler is brilliant as he gloats at her loss, refusing to share any of
his cheesecake - so the bitch knocks his cheesecake onto the floor too!

In the end, Joey catches his fallen friends eating crumbs of cheesecake
off the floor, still bickering. For a long long moment Joey looks down
on them with fatherly concern, and as Rachel & Chandler silently await
his judgement, Joey pulls a fork out of his jacket, and joins them!

---o0o---

When Ross is invited to his cousin Frannie's wedding, (as are as his
parents), he says nothing to his sister until the day before, since the
whole family has been invited except for her, even though the pair were
inseparable as girls until Frannie started trying to undress Monica.

Monica is understandably annoyed, but not screechy, to hear this - but
when Ross lets slip that he's taking a date, Monica turns all girlie &
whiny on him until he agrees to take her instead.

At the reception Monica looks very elegant, but feels like an intruder,
so keeps telling everyone that she's a BLOOD relative, which upsets Ross.
He orders Monica to be nice to Frannie, so his sister reveals it was his
cousin who found his Playboys, and showed them to their mother!

Finally the siblings confront Frannie. Monica is properly indignant (but
still not screechy) about being snubbed, until she meets the bridegroom,
who turns out to be an old flame of Monica's named Stuart, and now they
realise why Frannie didn't invite her.

---o0o---

The others are surprised to learn that Joey & Phoebe get together for
dinner once a month to talk about them. However, at the last minute Joey
cancels because he has a date, on the grounds that it's okay to let a
friend down if there's a possibility of sex.

Phoebe is so furious that she middle-names him, saying that boyfriends &
girlfriends come & go, but this is for life. Joey apologises, postponing
dinner by 24 hours, and even offers to pay for himself!

But next day Phoebe enters Central Perk to find David the Scientist Guy
waiting for her, six years after she fell in love with him, yet sent him
away to Minsk to pursue his career, breaking her heart. Sadly he is only
visiting New York for a conference, and he must leave that night.

Poor Phoebe is instantly smitten, but she remains true to her principles,
until Monica cajoles her into compromising her loyalty to Joey, by rushing
through dinner & meeting David afterwards. However, Monica tells Chandler
who tells Joey, who deliberately dawdles through the meal.

Phoebe has no choice but to confess, and since Joey is really ratty with
her, she walks out just in time to find David, dragging him off to her
apartment for sex. Much later, the pair kiss goodbye, Phoebe staying
happy for David, to send him away happy. They tell each other that they
love each other, not daring to say the actual words, kiss passionately,
and then they part forever.

Then Lisa Kudrow is incredible as Phoebe sees Joey watching her, loses her
control, and begs him to yell at her tomorrow. But instead her friend is
warm & comforting, and she falls into his arms in floods of tears wailing
that the only guy she's ever been crazy about has gone.

Joey tries to reassure her, but with Phoebe's criminal record she is not
allowed to have a passport, and unless Joey can achieve the positronic
distillation of subatomic particles before David does, she may never see
him again. Joey gamely replies he'll give it a shot, while he holds her
tight, and cuddles her...

---o0o---

Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit. Their
chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss Aniston
seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as Perry. What
a pity she seems unable to lift Eddie Cahill, whose Tag is as dull as
ditchwater. Anyway the cheesecake story, which on paper seems nothing,
was brought alive by two wonderful performances, and it easily held up
the comedic end of this episode.

I always look forward to seeing the Geller siblings together, but here
they were merely okay. Monica was not screechy when you consider the
circumstances - but after the welcome return of Old Ross, he was doing
that wide-eyed "who me?" look from the old Mental Geller days, even if
he wasn't being so annoying. Their story was interesting without being
funny, since it needed a surprise ending to sell the whole plot. Why
on Earth didn't the bridegroom turn out to be someone we knew?

Phoebe & Joey's story was virtually without laughter, and I absolutely
adored it. With LeBlanc's able support, Miss Kudrow pulled out all the
stops for a staggering performance in what was a sublime tragedy. Her
moral stance with Joey, her betrayal of her beliefs, her bravery for
David, and especially her collapse in Joey's arms, were all totally
wonderful. Situation comedy need not be funny to be good.

---o0o---

What crimes have the 6 friends committed? Here's some we've thought of...

Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in larceny
at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on
NYC Transport; unauthorised cable access; jaywalking on the
George Washington bridge; and violating Section 12 Paragraph
7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.

Joey - stole a small fridge & a neighbour's pizza; assault & battery of
a person on TV; controlling a boat under the influence of alcohol;
child endangerment on NYC Transport; and unauthorised cable access.

Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication, and corruption of a
minor; party to credit card fraud & medical insurance fraud;
breaking & entering at Dr.Burke's; assault; defying the Rent
Stabilization Act of 1968; and violating Section 12 Paragraph
7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.

Phoebe - assault with a deadly weapon; resisting arrest; breaking &
entering at Ms.Abbott's; carrying a concealed weapon; fraud,
embezzlement, and living off immoral earnings; impersonating
a police officer; suspicion of prostitution; and violating
Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, in a public park.

Rachel - stole a relic from the museum & cheesecake from a neighbour;
medical insurance fraud; grievous bodily harm; and violating
Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, at the Museum of
Natural History.

Ross - possession of illegal narcotics; offering alcoholic liquor to a
minor; and violating Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code,
on the It's A Small World ride, the NYU library, and the Museum
of Natural History.

Any more?

---o0o---

At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.

It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".

Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.

A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?

Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...


Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?

Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
leanings towards Ross.

Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?

Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?

Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.

Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?

I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
(since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
he was the Health teacher!

Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?


We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
take far longer than originally expected?

Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".

International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.

Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?

If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.

What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?

---o0o---

What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?

Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?

As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?

As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?

As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?

As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!


No spoilers PLEASE from anyone who has already seen episodes 712-724.

Tennant Stuart

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.4d085a4aba...@argonet.co.uk...

>
> What crimes have the 6 friends committed? Here's some we've thought of...
>
> Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in larceny
> at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
> unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on
> NYC Transport; unauthorised cable access;

Sheesh you're harsh. I'm glad you're not in charge. It's not Joey and
Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's not as if they did
anything to rig up their cable, and they could always claim that they didn't
realize the cable company had not made the channel part of their package.

jaywalking on the
> George Washington bridge; and violating Section 12 Paragraph
> 7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.

This Section/paragraph you love to cite does not exist. It's fictional. I
guess they're guilty of a fictional crime (very Kafkaesque).

> Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication,

I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.

> Ross - possession of illegal narcotics;

Not necessarily--in NYS one can have a certain amount of marijuana for one's
own use without committing a criminal offense.

> Any more?

Probably. My husband has said you could choose any house at random and find
violations of law inside--there are so many laws people break every day
without even knowing it. You probably have a list, too.

> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

Nah, if she middle-named Monica she might stick with her made-up version,
"Monica Baloolah Gellar." In high school, I knew a guy with a middle
initial that didn't stand for anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.


>
> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

I don't mind. Maybe when Monica got married, she dropped the middle name,
making it a "moo point." ;)

> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

Maybe he was in such demand he couldn't get away?

> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> or Joey & Phoebe?

Well, I'm not one of the people hoping for either combo.

There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

I'd like to see David return from Minsk.

Mardi


Paul Hyett

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>
>711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
>Chandler is furious with her, but she blackmails him by warning him that
>Monica & Joey mustn't find out, or they'll be branded as dessert stealers
>living outside the law. Greed overwhelms the pair as they fight over the
>remaining cheesecake, until Rachel threatens to tell Monica that he said
>her cheesecake was dry & mealy!

And that would be worse by far than anything the police might do for
cheesecake stealing. :)


>
>Joey tries to reassure her, but with Phoebe's criminal record she is not
>allowed to have a passport

Seems odd - she's been abroad before (Prague - see TOW the Girl From
Poughkeepsie), and as far as we know she's not actually done anything
serious enough to do time, so ISTM there's no reason why she shouldn't
have a passport.

I'm assuming a jury must have accepted her self-defence claim when she
admitted to having stabbed a cop!

>
>
>Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
>tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
>I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

I'm amazed there's *anything* he won't eat! :)


>
>We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

Who, for instance?


>
>Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant"

I bet they didn't tell Monica they went there!
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net!

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Owen Shiers

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Sep 15, 2001, 6:37:34 AM9/15/01
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> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
> >
> ---o0o---
>
> Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit. Their
> chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss Aniston
> seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as Perry.

I wonder why....


>
> I always look forward to seeing the Geller siblings together, but here
> they were merely okay. Monica was not screechy when you consider the
> circumstances - but after the welcome return of Old Ross, he was doing
> that wide-eyed "who me?" look from the old Mental Geller days, even if
> he wasn't being so annoying. Their story was interesting without being
> funny, since it needed a surprise ending to sell the whole plot. Why
> on Earth didn't the bridegroom turn out to be someone we knew?

Monica had quite a few b/f in the first 2 seasons, there was Paul the wine
guy, Alan, and Fun Bobby. I think Paul probably would have worked well.

Well you've remembered a lot more than me but didn't Phoebe stab a cop? Even
though he stabbed her *first*


>
> ---o0o---
>
> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

Why havn't they had more Rachel/Chandler storylines since then? I suppose
the writers were preoccupied with their alledged "oh so great" Mon/Chan
storylines.

>
> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

I can't stand the stuff but I must say I'm surprised that Joey would eat
Pizza he found dumped and Cheesecake off the floor and not tofu.


>
> According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
> hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
> laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
> director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.
>
> A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?

No....I did find a spoon in my coat once though!


>
> Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
> enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
> Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
> yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
> and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...

The cheesecake must have been *that* good!


>
>
> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
> Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
> friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
> schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?

Do you think the writers ever watch past episodes to check for continuity?
Because there have been a lot of errors in the show that could have been
avoided by checking.


>
> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
> leanings towards Ross.
>
> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?

I must say although I found this funny it was very strange.


>
> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?

Maybe Jack wanted to avoid being kissed by Aunt Cheryl (is she his sister?)


>
> Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
> of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
> Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.

Do you think that that cousin Nathan is Frannie's brother? Because that
certainly would explain the "undressing"


>
> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?

Remember we're talking about the Mother of someone who undresses her cousin
here!


>
> I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
> (since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
> a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
> rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
> he was the Health teacher!

Isn't there a Talia Shier in Friends? I recall Estelle mentioning here
getting a part over Joey.


>
> Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

Yes....Very!


>
> Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
> own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?

I'd be that mad if I wasn't invited to my cousin's wedding, I think she's
entitled to be like that.


>
>
> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!


>
> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>
> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

I think this might be an on-going joke with the writers....keeping us on our
toes!


>
> David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
> like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
> take far longer than originally expected?

I don't know what organisations who give out grants are like in America. But
over here, if you get a grant for 3 years, you'd get a grant for three
years. It costs a lot to pay to put two people up for three years, plus any
research funds. I think if the writers would have remembered it was
originally three years they would have included an explaination as to why he
was gone longer.

>
> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

I don't really know, he was certainly crazy about her so I doubt he'd be too
scared. Maybe he had trouble finding her?

>
> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?

What the actual restaurant is called "Cafe Des Artistes"?


>
> If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
>
> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?

Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

"And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"


>
> ---o0o---
>
> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe. Having C&M,
R&R and J&P would be too much.


>
> As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
>
> As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
>
> As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
>
> As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
>
> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> Owen

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>
>711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
>At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
>he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.


C&R have very nice chemistry IMO... however, MP still seemed a bit off. It's
a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might not have
worked so well.

>The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
>to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
>it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
>fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.


Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?

>It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
>we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".


Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.

>Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
>tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
>I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.


You'd have thought that after Rachel's trifle he'd be open to everything...
maybe he wouldn't have eaten it if it had had tofu instead of meat - or
maybe Phoebe would have, and found that she loved it.

>According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
>hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
>laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
>director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.


Hehe! Wish I'd been there!

>A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?


No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!

>Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
>boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
>enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
>Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
>by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
>yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
>and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...


She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
same?

>Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
>Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
>friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
>schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?


It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I mean,
I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that we hear, it
doesn't make sense.

>Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>leanings towards Ross.


Well, my. Who would have thought?

>Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?


Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about that.

>Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?


Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

>Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
>of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
>Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
>
>Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?


Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all, even
Richard didn't recognise her at first.

>I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
>(since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
>a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
>rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
>he was the Health teacher!


At least, let's hope not!

>Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?


No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.

>Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
>own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?


I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
ex-best-friend was marrying!

>We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.


Oh, those critics...

>It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?


How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.

>Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!


I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
Tennant?

>David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
>like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
>take far longer than originally expected?
>
>Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
>it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
>once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
>Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
>was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".
>
>International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?


Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment, but
it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so he went
straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...

>We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
>this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
>not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
>Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.


Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear sometimes.
You don't have to go commando all the time.

>Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?


Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!

>If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
>Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
>
>What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?


Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm biased
because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan. And it would
be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below - because Joey
really doesn't have anybody. How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really
like her!

> ---o0o---
>
>What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
>or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
>on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
>with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?


Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping his
personality to shreds with Joey...

>Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
>of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
>
>As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
>
>As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
>
>As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
>
>As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
>
>As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!


And why not? You have to love her!


Tennant Stuart

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In article <lryo7.497605$T97.63...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> What crimes have the 6 friends committed?
>> Here's some we've thought of...

>> Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in larceny
>> at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
>> unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on
>> NYC Transport; unauthorised cable access;

> Sheesh you're harsh. I'm glad you're not in charge.

It's only a list in a review - I'm not judging them, honest... :)


> It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's not
> as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could always
> claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made the
> channel part of their package.

Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to watch,
even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the porn went
away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV, and no-one
touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily when Monica
muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to discover with
relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.


>> jaywalking on the
>> George Washington bridge; and violating Section 12 Paragraph
>> 7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.

> This Section/paragraph you love to cite does not exist. It's fictional.
> I guess they're guilty of a fictional crime (very Kafkaesque).

Lol! Oh dear! Okay, so Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code does
not exist (or it does exist but says something quite different so please
tell me), but is it legal in America to indulge in public coitus?


>> Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication,

> I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.

That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well need
rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48 states.


>> Ross - possession of illegal narcotics;

> Not necessarily--in NYS one can have a certain amount of marijuana for
> one's own use without committing a criminal offense.

Indeed? And how much is a certain amount, and how sure can we be that
Ross did not have more than that, and did this law apply in the 1980s?


> Any more?

> Probably. My husband has said you could choose any house at random and
> find violations of law inside--there are so many laws people break every
> day without even knowing it.

Yeah, but we're talking only about crimes seen or mentioned in episodes
of "Friends". However, I would be most grateful if Mr.Whoeverheis could
supply the proper legalistic wording of the more colloquial terms.


> You probably have a list, too.

Not really, there are many lists I'd like to compile, but I don't have
that much spare time. The list of crimes has simply accumulated in the
latest drafts of this review, as my readers suggest new entries.


>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

> Nah, if she middle-named Monica she might stick with her made-up version,
> "Monica Baloolah Gellar."

That's "Fallula", and from the very guilty way that Phoebe was hopping
around when Rachel found her - "I'm freaking out! Monica kinda trusted
me with something and she shouldn't have! Alright, I haven't lived here
in a while, so I have to ask you something. Does Monica still turn on
the lights in her bedroom? (Rachel agrees) I am soo dead." - it seems
to me that Phoebe would not have stuck with her made-up version.


> In high school, I knew a guy with a middle initial that didn't stand for
> anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.

I'm surprised you didn't quote the famous example of Harry S Truman which
caused so much trouble between reporters and their editors. It took years
for newspapers to accept that "S" was a full word, one letter long - and
then the president's wife Margaret Truman published her biography with
the title "Harry S. Truman". She said that she preferred the inaccurate
version rather having to answer inquiries. Also, it's known that Harry
tired of the battle, for some of his signatures do contain the period.

It seems to me most unlikely that Jack & Judy Geller would inflict the
difficulty of a single letter name on their (even unfavoured) daughter.


>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

> I don't mind. Maybe when Monica got married, she dropped the middle
> name, making it a "moo point." ;)

Lol, that could be! :)


>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

> Maybe he was in such demand he couldn't get away?

Yes, that might be so, but this was *Phoebe* (pant, pant).


>> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
>> or Joey & Phoebe?

> Well, I'm not one of the people hoping for either combo.

No, but never mind.


>> There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady on her beauty or
>> Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete with that
>> desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?

>> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
>> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

> I'd like to see David return from Minsk.

Well, we'll see. What did you think of the rest of the episode?


Tennant

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <lryo7.497605$T97.63...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.4d085a4aba...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> What crimes have the 6 friends committed?
> >> Here's some we've thought of...
>
> >> Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in larceny
> >> at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's
Restaurant;
> >> unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment
on
> >> NYC Transport; unauthorised cable access;
>
> > Sheesh you're harsh. I'm glad you're not in charge.
>
> It's only a list in a review - I'm not judging them, honest... :)

Ah, Phoebe would have thought you were being all judgmental. Especially
since you had "suspicion of prostitution" in her list, and "suspicion" is
not a crime. ;)

> > It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's not
> > as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could always
> > claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made the
> > channel part of their package.
>
> Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to watch,
> even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the porn went
> away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV, and no-one
> touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily when Monica
> muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to discover with
> relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.

You saw that as guilt? It just looked to me like worry (we're going to lose
this) and relief (we didn't). Still, I don't think this would be considered
a crime. The worst that could happen, I think, is the cable company could
figure out they're getting the channel and could then scramble it. I don't
think they could even bill them for it, let alone press charges, because
they didn't do anything to receive it.

> >> jaywalking on the
> >> George Washington bridge; and violating Section 12 Paragraph
> >> 7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.
>
> > This Section/paragraph you love to cite does not exist. It's fictional.
> > I guess they're guilty of a fictional crime (very Kafkaesque).
>
> Lol! Oh dear! Okay, so Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code does
> not exist (or it does exist but says something quite different so please
> tell me), but is it legal in America to indulge in public coitus?

Oh, sure, we Yanks do that all the time and people just clap! ;)

Nah, I doubt it's legal here, but couldn't find anything in the criminal
code for NY that spells it out as such (let alone under the
section/paragraph number). Could be that it would fall under other
offenses.

> >> Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication,
>
> > I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.
>
> That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well need
> rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48 states.

Okay, I thought you'd put the two as separate offenses. But don't forget
that Monica was just guessing about the 48. The age of consent is actually
different in every state, and until sometime in the mid-90s, it was actually
*14* in Pennsylvania (then went up to 16). So I suspect her number was
overestimating. In fact, if I remember correctly from the Amy Fisher/Joey
Buttafuoco case, the age of consent in NYS is 17, which would mean she
didn't break any laws in Ick Factor (it doesn't matter whether it would have
been a violation in another state, only that it's not a violation where you
did it!).

> >> Ross - possession of illegal narcotics;
>
> > Not necessarily--in NYS one can have a certain amount of marijuana for
> > one's own use without committing a criminal offense.
>
> Indeed? And how much is a certain amount, and how sure can we be that
> Ross did not have more than that, and did this law apply in the 1980s?

(a) Don't know the amount; (b) that's why I wrote "not necessarily"; (c) I
think so.

> > Any more?
>
> > Probably. My husband has said you could choose any house at random and
> > find violations of law inside--there are so many laws people break every
> > day without even knowing it.
>
> Yeah, but we're talking only about crimes seen or mentioned in episodes
> of "Friends". However, I would be most grateful if Mr.Whoeverheis could
> supply the proper legalistic wording of the more colloquial terms.

Ah, someone let it slip that we're the Whoeverheises. ;)

Which ones do you want to know?

> > You probably have a list, too.
>
> Not really, there are many lists I'd like to compile, but I don't have
> that much spare time. The list of crimes has simply accumulated in the
> latest drafts of this review, as my readers suggest new entries.

I didn't mean that you've probably *compiled* a list, only that one probably
*could* compile one for you as you have for the characters.

> >> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> >> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> >> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>
> > Nah, if she middle-named Monica she might stick with her made-up
version,
> > "Monica Baloolah Gellar."
>
> That's "Fallula",

It sounded like "Baloolah" to me, and to Eric Aasen it sounded like
"Velula." Does your "Fallula" come from the subtitles?

and from the very guilty way that Phoebe was hopping
> around when Rachel found her - "I'm freaking out! Monica kinda trusted
> me with something and she shouldn't have! Alright, I haven't lived here
> in a while, so I have to ask you something. Does Monica still turn on
> the lights in her bedroom? (Rachel agrees) I am soo dead." - it seems
> to me that Phoebe would not have stuck with her made-up version.

I think it was her allowing the wrong bed to slip by because of her
attentiveness, and not signing with a false middle name, that had Phoebe
feeling guilty. The fake middle name might have been the one hight point of
the whole experience. ;)

> > In high school, I knew a guy with a middle initial that didn't stand for
> > anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.
>
> I'm surprised you didn't quote the famous example of Harry S Truman which
> caused so much trouble between reporters and their editors. It took years
> for newspapers to accept that "S" was a full word, one letter long - and
> then the president's wife Margaret Truman published her biography with
> the title "Harry S. Truman". She said that she preferred the inaccurate
> version rather having to answer inquiries. Also, it's known that Harry
> tired of the battle, for some of his signatures do contain the period.

True, that's a much more famous example (until the guy I knew from high
school becomes really famous!).

> It seems to me most unlikely that Jack & Judy Geller would inflict the
> difficulty of a single letter name on their (even unfavoured) daughter.

Never know with those two.

> >> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
> > I don't mind. Maybe when Monica got married, she dropped the middle
> > name, making it a "moo point." ;)
>
> Lol, that could be! :)

Yep, it's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing" rather
than Monica E. Bing.

> >> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
> > Maybe he was in such demand he couldn't get away?
>
> Yes, that might be so, but this was *Phoebe* (pant, pant).

Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some Phoebe time,
only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet another discussion or
session.

> >> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> >> or Joey & Phoebe?
>
> > Well, I'm not one of the people hoping for either combo.
>
> No, but never mind.

Well, I'll try. . . .

> >> There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady on her beauty or
> >> Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete with that
> >> desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
> >> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> >> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> >> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> >> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
>
> > I'd like to see David return from Minsk.
>
> Well, we'll see. What did you think of the rest of the episode?

Oh, JA and MP did a wonderful job with the cheesecake story. They were
hilarious. And Joey carrying a fork was just so. . . . Joey. That story
was pure fun. The wedding story was just okay, I think. Phoebe/David were
heartbreaking.

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

> C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...

They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.


> However, MP still seemed a bit off.

I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.


> It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might not
> have worked so well.

Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first time
it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.


>> The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
>> to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
>> it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
>> fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.

> Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?

No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came begging
for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex really loud.


>> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
>> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".

> Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.

Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.


>> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
>> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
>> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

> You'd have thought that after Rachel's trifle he'd be open to
> everything...

Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...


> maybe he wouldn't have eaten it if it had had tofu instead of meat - or
> maybe Phoebe would have, and found that she loved it.

I don't know, I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they
prepare wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.


>> According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
>> hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
>> laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
>> director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.

> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!

Oh gosh yes, me too. I wish I could have been at the filming of S8-03 on
August 24th, to see & enjoy the original episode in happy innocence.


>> A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?

> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!

Hey, yes! And you *are* a true fan! :)


>> Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
>> boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
>> enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
>> Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
>> by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
>> yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
>> and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...

> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
> same?

I don't know, but it's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely
different once you hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...


>> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
>> Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
>> friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
>> schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?

> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
> mean, I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that
> we hear, it doesn't make sense.

Could it be that big-nosed Rachel felt better about herself by having
fat Monica standing next to her? Plus we know that Monica knew how to
make Rachel laugh. And maybe the other girls resented Rachel's wealth.


>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>> leanings towards Ross.

> Well, my. Who would have thought?

Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?


>> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?

> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
> that.

Oh! Good point, sweetie. No-one's thought of that before.

The IMDb has 264 actors and 6 actresses named Glenn, so it does tend
to be a boy's name, but even so as you say it could be a girl's name.

So with the possibilities of a baby or a disabled guy or a girl it
shows that we shouldn't assume that there was anything gay referred
to here - not that there would be anything wrong if there was.


>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?

> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...


>> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?

> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all, even
> Richard didn't recognise her at first.

Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.


>> I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
>> (since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
>> a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
>> rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
>> he was the Health teacher!

> At least, let's hope not!

Yes, let's!


>> Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.

Exactly.


>> Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
>> own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?

> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> ex-best-friend was marrying!

I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?


>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

> Oh, those critics...

Sigh. Yes.


>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.

It does a bit, but it also sounds like something else... ;)


>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> Tennant?

I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".


>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
> but it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so
> he went straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...

Yes, but she moved back in last week, didn't she?


>> We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
>> this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
>> not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
>> Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.

> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> sometimes. You don't have to go commando all the time.

Oh, that's a relief to know. :)


>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for

>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.

> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!

What would happen if she did find out?


>> If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
>> Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.

>> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?

> Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
> biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.

Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?


> And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below
> - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.

Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?


> How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!

Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?


>> ---o0o---

>> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
>> or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
>> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
>> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?

> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> his personality to shreds with Joey...

That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.


>> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
>> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

>> As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?

>> As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?

>> As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?

>> As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?

>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

> And why not? You have to love her!

Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <kIPjEiDy...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>> Chandler is furious with her, but she blackmails him by warning him that
>> Monica & Joey mustn't find out, or they'll be branded as dessert stealers
>> living outside the law. Greed overwhelms the pair as they fight over the
>> remaining cheesecake, until Rachel threatens to tell Monica that he said
>> her cheesecake was dry & mealy!

> And that would be worse by far than anything the police might do for
> cheesecake stealing. :)

What do you think that Monica would do to him? Or to her?


>> Joey tries to reassure her, but with Phoebe's criminal record she is not
>> allowed to have a passport

> Seems odd - she's been abroad before (Prague - see TOW the Girl From
> Poughkeepsie), and as far as we know she's not actually done anything
> serious enough to do time, so ISTM there's no reason why she shouldn't
> have a passport.

Maybe she had her passport confiscated when she returned to America.


> I'm assuming a jury must have accepted her self-defence claim when she
> admitted to having stabbed a cop!

Maybe, so why does she proclaim that as though no-one believed her?


>> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
>> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
>> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

> I'm amazed there's *anything* he won't eat! :)

I know, but there's roast chicken for starters...


>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

> Who, for instance?

I don't like to drag people's names up.


>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant"

> I bet they didn't tell Monica they went there!

I'm sure you're right - and it shows how clever Joey & Phoebe are, to
choose the one restaurant where their other friends won't dare to go.


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <ecGo7.10571$mj6.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>> Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit. Their


>> chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss Aniston
>> seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as Perry.

> I wonder why....

It can't be due to her physical attributes, her skill as an actress, or
her superb comic timing, for then she'd be able to lift Cahill, so it
must be something to do with his own abilities or the lack of them.


>> I always look forward to seeing the Geller siblings together, but here
>> they were merely okay. Monica was not screechy when you consider the
>> circumstances - but after the welcome return of Old Ross, he was doing
>> that wide-eyed "who me?" look from the old Mental Geller days, even if
>> he wasn't being so annoying. Their story was interesting without being
>> funny, since it needed a surprise ending to sell the whole plot. Why
>> on Earth didn't the bridegroom turn out to be someone we knew?

> Monica had quite a few b/f in the first 2 seasons, there was Paul the wine
> guy, Alan, and Fun Bobby. I think Paul probably would have worked well.

Absolutely. It's such a puzzle.

Even if none of the actors were available, a substitute would have done.


>> Phoebe - assault with a deadly weapon; resisting arrest; breaking &
>> entering at Ms.Abbott's; carrying a concealed weapon; fraud,
>> embezzlement, and living off immoral earnings; impersonating
>> a police officer; suspicion of prostitution; and violating
>> Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, in a public park.

>> Any more?

> Well you've remembered a lot more than me but didn't Phoebe stab a cop?
> Even though he stabbed her *first*

That's the first two items on her list.


>> ---o0o---

>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

> Why havn't they had more Rachel/Chandler storylines since then? I suppose
> the writers were preoccupied with their alledged "oh so great" Mon/Chan
> storylines.

That's exactly so. I'm a big C+M fan, and they've had some wonderful
stories together, but please not every damn week whether the writers
have something interesting for them or not.

Fortunately, the writers have now started to shake things up a bit.


>> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
>> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
>> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.

> I can't stand the stuff but I must say I'm surprised that Joey would eat
> Pizza he found dumped and Cheesecake off the floor and not tofu.

It must be quite horrible. I've never tried tofu, but vegetarian friends
say their secret is good vegetable foodstuffs, not poor meat substitutes.


>> According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
>> hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
>> laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
>> director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.

>> A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?

> No....I did find a spoon in my coat once though!

Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends


eating food off the hallway floor...


>> Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
>> boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
>> enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
>> Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
>> by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
>> yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
>> and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...

> The cheesecake must have been *that* good!

It sure was!


>> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
>> met Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's
>> best friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were
>> mainly schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had
>> Mindy?

> Do you think the writers ever watch past episodes to check for continuity?
> Because there have been a lot of errors in the show that could have been
> avoided by checking.

People say this, but most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the
kind. Writers do not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity,
they have researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the
major characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves
know their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.


>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>> leanings towards Ross.

>> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?

> I must say although I found this funny it was very strange.

I know, after a while one realises that these 6 people still hang out
together since they all had somewhat peculiar childhoods.


>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?

> Maybe Jack wanted to avoid being kissed by Aunt Cheryl (is she his
> sister?)

We don't know, but since we haven't heard of her before, I would guess
she's the wife of his brother Nathan, and Millie is married to Edward.


>> Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
>> of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
>> Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.

> Do you think that that cousin Nathan is Frannie's brother? Because that
> certainly would explain the "undressing"

Yes I do, so cousin Nathan would be Nathan Geller Junior.


>> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?

> Remember we're talking about the Mother of someone who undresses her
> cousin here!

I knowww!!!


>> I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
>> (since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
>> a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
>> rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
>> he was the Health teacher!

> Isn't there a Talia Shier in Friends? I recall Estelle mentioning here
> getting a part over Joey.

That was Talia Shire in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister". She is the
sister of Francis Ford Coppola, and has made 45 movies so far. Since
she was born in 1946, she'd be quite remarkable as 29-year-old man.


>> Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

> Yes....Very!

You reckon?


>> Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
>> own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?

> I'd be that mad if I wasn't invited to my cousin's wedding, I think she's
> entitled to be like that.

So why do you say that she was screechy?


>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

> But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!

We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!


>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

> I think this might be an on-going joke with the writers....keeping us on
> our toes!

I think you're right! :)


>> David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
>> like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
>> take far longer than originally expected?

> I don't know what organisations who give out grants are like in America.
> But over here, if you get a grant for 3 years, you'd get a grant for
> three years. It costs a lot to pay to put two people up for three years,
> plus any research funds. I think if the writers would have remembered it

> was originally three years they would have included an explanation as


> to why he was gone longer.

I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about this,
but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice to know...


>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

> I don't really know, he was certainly crazy about her so I doubt he'd be
> too scared. Maybe he had trouble finding her?

She'd returned to her own apartment, and he hung out at Central Perk
before he met her, so he should have had no trouble. My theory is
that he figured that such a lovely woman would have been snapped up
in the intervening six years.


>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?

> What the actual restaurant is called "Cafe Des Artistes"?

All we know is that in 221 "TOW the Bullies" she said she was a chef at
Cafe des Artistes, and this was 16 episodes after she got fired from
Iridium. However, the restaurant was never called that, we just see it
written on the front in the clip of film.


>> If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
>> Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.

>> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?

> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"

Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.


>> ---o0o---

>> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
>> or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
>> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
>> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?

>> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
>> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe. Having C&M,
> R&R and J&P would be too much.

It does seem very cut & dried.


>> As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?

>> As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?

>> As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?

>> As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?

>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Not even if she had elocution lessons?

Tennant

Owen Shiers

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> >> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
> >> Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit. Their
> >> chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss Aniston
> >> seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as Perry.
>
> > I wonder why....
>
> It can't be due to her physical attributes, her skill as an actress, or
> her superb comic timing, for then she'd be able to lift Cahill, so it
> must be something to do with his own abilities or the lack of them.

Yeah I was only joking...She must have a very happy and uplifting aura about
her. She seems to bring out the best in others. Of course if the bes isn't
there...she can't!


>
>
> >> I always look forward to seeing the Geller siblings together, but here
> >> they were merely okay. Monica was not screechy when you consider the
> >> circumstances - but after the welcome return of Old Ross, he was doing
> >> that wide-eyed "who me?" look from the old Mental Geller days, even if
> >> he wasn't being so annoying. Their story was interesting without being
> >> funny, since it needed a surprise ending to sell the whole plot. Why
> >> on Earth didn't the bridegroom turn out to be someone we knew?
>
> > Monica had quite a few b/f in the first 2 seasons, there was Paul the
wine
> > guy, Alan, and Fun Bobby. I think Paul probably would have worked well.
>
> Absolutely. It's such a puzzle.
>
> Even if none of the actors were available, a substitute would have done.

I put that down as poor writing/lack of logic


>
>
> >> Phoebe - assault with a deadly weapon; resisting arrest; breaking &
> >> entering at Ms.Abbott's; carrying a concealed weapon; fraud,
> >> embezzlement, and living off immoral earnings; impersonating
> >> a police officer; suspicion of prostitution; and violating
> >> Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, in a public park.
>
> >> Any more?
>
> > Well you've remembered a lot more than me but didn't Phoebe stab a cop?
> > Even though he stabbed her *first*
>
> That's the first two items on her list.

Woopsy missed that! Sorry...I was thinking...what about offenses commited on
the friends?! I can't think of many offhand but here are some:

Monica's credit card
The crooks stealing the keys/watches in TOW The Bullies
The bullies in TOW the Bullies??
The old man that force fed Phoebe cider and cookies?

I'm sure there are tons more but I can't think of them offhand. Tennant, I
recall you having some sort of Friends database or something, is that what
you use?

>
>
> >> ---o0o---
>
> >> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
> >> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
> >> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.
>
> > Why havn't they had more Rachel/Chandler storylines since then? I
suppose
> > the writers were preoccupied with their alledged "oh so great" Mon/Chan
> > storylines.
>
> That's exactly so. I'm a big C+M fan, and they've had some wonderful
> stories together, but please not every damn week whether the writers
> have something interesting for them or not.
>
> Fortunately, the writers have now started to shake things up a bit.

I think it could save the show!


>
>
> >> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
> >> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
> >> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.
>
> > I can't stand the stuff but I must say I'm surprised that Joey would eat
> > Pizza he found dumped and Cheesecake off the floor and not tofu.
>
> It must be quite horrible. I've never tried tofu, but vegetarian friends
> say their secret is good vegetable foodstuffs, not poor meat substitutes.

I've got nothing againstr vegetarianism. But I wouldn't be able to cope with
it, as long as I know animals are being killed humanly, I don't mind eating
meat as cannibalism is natural.


>
>
> >> According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
> >> hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
> >> laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
> >> director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.
>
> >> A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?
>
> > No....I did find a spoon in my coat once though!
>
> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends
> eating food off the hallway floor...

Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the floor....he was
pissed though...


>
>
> >> Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> >> boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
> >> enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
> >> Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> >> by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
> >> yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
> >> and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
>
> > The cheesecake must have been *that* good!
>
> It sure was!

I gotta say, on of my friends seems fascinated with cheesecake....maybe the
very idea is silly....I know it tastes nice and I think the food in itself
brings a bemused smile to my face.


>
>
> >> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
> >> met Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's
> >> best friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were
> >> mainly schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had
> >> Mindy?
>
> > Do you think the writers ever watch past episodes to check for
continuity?
> > Because there have been a lot of errors in the show that could have been
> > avoided by checking.
>
> People say this, but most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the
> kind. Writers do not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity,
> they have researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the
> major characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves
> know their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.

How can they explain such errors as characters ages then?


>
>
> >> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
> >> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
> >> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
> >> leanings towards Ross.
>
> >> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> >> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> >> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> >> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> >> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
>
> > I must say although I found this funny it was very strange.
>
> I know, after a while one realises that these 6 people still hang out
> together since they all had somewhat peculiar childhoods.

Birds of a feather and all that....


>
>
> >> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?
>
> > Maybe Jack wanted to avoid being kissed by Aunt Cheryl (is she his
> > sister?)
>
> We don't know, but since we haven't heard of her before, I would guess
> she's the wife of his brother Nathan, and Millie is married to Edward.

This is all very confusing!


>
>
> >> Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
> >> of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
> >> Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
>
> > Do you think that that cousin Nathan is Frannie's brother? Because that
> > certainly would explain the "undressing"
>
> Yes I do, so cousin Nathan would be Nathan Geller Junior.

That slightly explains the "coming onto cousins" then!


>
>
> >> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> >> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> >> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
>
> > Remember we're talking about the Mother of someone who undresses her
> > cousin here!
>
> I knowww!!!

As they say: Ewwwwwww


>
>
> >> I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
> >> (since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
> >> a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
> >> rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
> >> he was the Health teacher!
>
> > Isn't there a Talia Shier in Friends? I recall Estelle mentioning here
> > getting a part over Joey.
>
> That was Talia Shire in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister". She is the
> sister of Francis Ford Coppola, and has made 45 movies so far. Since
> she was born in 1946, she'd be quite remarkable as 29-year-old man.

Lol, wow I have such cool distant relatives!


>
>
> >> Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>
> > Yes....Very!
>
> You reckon?

Yeah I think she was entitled to it....I like screechy Monica anyway.


>
>
> >> Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
> >> own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?
>
> > I'd be that mad if I wasn't invited to my cousin's wedding, I think
she's
> > entitled to be like that.
>
> So why do you say that she was screechy?

I'm confused.....I mean she was screechy because she was
annoyed...especially when she was asking the guests how they were
related...I think screechy may be a bit harsh...how about.intense?


>
>
> >> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> >> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> >> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
> > But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!
>
> We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
> his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!

Lol, wouldn't extras do that usually?
>

>
>
> >> David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
> >> like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
> >> take far longer than originally expected?
>
> > I don't know what organisations who give out grants are like in America.
> > But over here, if you get a grant for 3 years, you'd get a grant for
> > three years. It costs a lot to pay to put two people up for three years,
> > plus any research funds. I think if the writers would have remembered it
> > was originally three years they would have included an explanation as
> > to why he was gone longer.
>
> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about this,
> but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice to know...

U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!


>
>
> >> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
> > I don't really know, he was certainly crazy about her so I doubt he'd be
> > too scared. Maybe he had trouble finding her?
>
> She'd returned to her own apartment, and he hung out at Central Perk
> before he met her, so he should have had no trouble. My theory is
> that he figured that such a lovely woman would have been snapped up
> in the intervening six years.

She certainly should have been....


>
>
> >> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
>
> > What the actual restaurant is called "Cafe Des Artistes"?
>
> All we know is that in 221 "TOW the Bullies" she said she was a chef at
> Cafe des Artistes, and this was 16 episodes after she got fired from
> Iridium. However, the restaurant was never called that, we just see it
> written on the front in the clip of film.

So it's an error then?


>
>
> >> If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> >> Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
>
> >> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
>
> > Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..
>
> > "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"
>
> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.

Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me, and my
mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!


>
>
> >> ---o0o---
>
> >> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> >> or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the
lady
> >> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
> >> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
> >> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> >> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> >> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> >> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
>
> > I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe. Having
C&M,
> > R&R and J&P would be too much.
>
> It does seem very cut & dried.

Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that mean?


>
> >> As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
>
> >> As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
>
> >> As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
>
> >> As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
>
> >> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
> > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> Not even if she had elocution lessons?

Still....nooooooooooooo!
>
>
> I was gonna ask you aswell....did you hear radio1 this afternoon, there
was a quizon to win friends goodies...I phoned up and was 2nd/3rd in the
queue I think. Unfotunately number 1 won a dvd player, Friends bag and
season 7 box set...damn! The questions were easy:
1.Who performs the theme tune
2. Who played Emily
3.What does Phoebe drive
4. What is Ross allergic to
There was another easy question I can't remember! But they should have made
it harder for die hard fans like us!

Off to watch I love 1994

Owen

Paul Hyett

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>
>> It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's not
>> as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could always
>> claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made the
>> channel part of their package.
>
>Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to watch,
>even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the porn went
>away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV, and no-one
>touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily when Monica
>muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to discover with
>relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.

I wish something like that happened to me!


>
>> I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.
>
>That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well need
>rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48 states.

But not in New York? Besides, it wasn't like she meant to do it - Ethan
lied about his age.

>
>> In high school, I knew a guy with a middle initial that didn't stand for
>> anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.
>

Rather like Homer J Simpson.

Paul Hyett

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>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>>
>>
>> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
>
>Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

I *never* get tired of seeing Brooke Shields!

Paul Hyett

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>
>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
>What do you think that Monica would do to him? Or to her?

Well, maybe the cheesecake would get inserted at the wrong end? :)


>
>I don't like to drag people's names up.

Don't you mean 'down'? :)


>I'm sure you're right - and it shows how clever Joey & Phoebe are

'Clever' & 'Joey' - those are two words I never expected to see in the
same sentence!

Paul Hyett

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>
> In fact, if I remember correctly from the Amy Fisher/Joey
>Buttafuoco case, the age of consent in NYS is 17, which would mean she
>didn't break any laws in Ick Factor (it doesn't matter whether it would have
>been a violation in another state, only that it's not a violation where you
>did it!).
>
What happens if you are under a State's AoC, but you were legally
married in a different country?

I think the law would just have to ignore it in these circumstances.


>>
>> Lol, that could be! :)
>
>Yep, it's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing" rather
>than Monica E. Bing.
>

There's also the speculation that Ben is clairvoyant, and was actually
saying Monica *Bing* in TOW the Giant Poking Device. :)

Tennant Stuart

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In article <XMOo7.16698$Pm5.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>>>> Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit.
>>>> Their chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss
>>>> Aniston seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as
>>>> Perry.

>>> I wonder why....

>> It can't be due to her physical attributes, her skill as an actress, or
>> her superb comic timing, for then she'd be able to lift Cahill, so it
>> must be something to do with his own abilities or the lack of them.

> Yeah I was only joking...She must have a very happy and uplifting aura
> about her. She seems to bring out the best in others. Of course if the
> bes isn't there...she can't!

Ah yes, I quite agree. Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?


>>> Monica had quite a few b/f in the first 2 seasons, there was Paul the
>>> wine guy, Alan, and Fun Bobby. I think Paul probably would have worked
>>> well.

>> Absolutely. It's such a puzzle.

>> Even if none of the actors were available, a substitute would have done.

> I put that down as poor writing/lack of logic

Yes, in this instance that would seem to be the case.


> What about offenses commited on the friends?! I can't think of many


> offhand but here are some:

> Monica's credit card
> The crooks stealing the keys/watches in TOW The Bullies
> The bullies in TOW the Bullies??

I think the bullies were the worst, since you think of that kind of thing
as something bad in your boyhood, that as a man you needn't worry about.


> The old man that force fed Phoebe cider and cookies?

Hehe.


> I'm sure there are tons more but I can't think of them offhand. Tennant, I
> recall you having some sort of Friends database or something, is that what
> you use?

I have my own database which I created myself, but there are many areas
where it is lacking, mainly due to spending too much spare time talking
to you guys on the newsgroup - which I do because it's great fun. :)


>> That's exactly so. I'm a big C+M fan, and they've had some wonderful
>> stories together, but please not every damn week whether the writers
>> have something interesting for them or not.

>> Fortunately, the writers have now started to shake things up a bit.

> I think it could save the show!

Yep!! :)


>> It must be quite horrible. I've never tried tofu, but vegetarian
>> friends say their secret is good vegetable foodstuffs, not poor
>> meat substitutes.

> I've got nothing againstr vegetarianism. But I wouldn't be able to cope
> with it, as long as I know animals are being killed humanly, I don't
> mind eating meat as cannibalism is natural.

Yes, I know what you mean.


>> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends
>> eating food off the hallway floor...

> Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the floor....he
> was pissed though...

It all depends on how clean the floor is. ;)


>>> The cheesecake must have been *that* good!

>> It sure was!

> I gotta say, on of my friends seems fascinated with cheesecake....maybe
> the very idea is silly....I know it tastes nice and I think the food in
> itself brings a bemused smile to my face.

Oh I know, the whole story makes me so hungry!


>> most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the kind. Writers do
>> not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity, they have
>> researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the major
>> characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves know
>> their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.

> How can they explain such errors as characters ages then?

Apart from Joey's, the ages hang together quite well actually. But to
see this, you have to work out their ages to the nearest month, else
you'll get caught out. Do you not have a copy of my spreadsheet?


>> After a while one realises that these 6 people still hang out


>> together since they all had somewhat peculiar childhoods.

> Birds of a feather and all that....

Yes indeed, it's the key to the characters, and the sitcom's situation.


>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding.
>>>> Why didn't we see them?

>>> Maybe Jack wanted to avoid being kissed by Aunt Cheryl (is she his
>>> sister?)

>> We don't know, but since we haven't heard of her before, I would guess
>> she's the wife of his brother Nathan, and Millie is married to Edward.

> This is all very confusing!

Another answer is that they just make up extra relatives as they go along.


>>>> Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
>>>> of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
>>>> Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.

>>> Do you think that that cousin Nathan is Frannie's brother? Because
>>> that certainly would explain the "undressing"

>> Yes I do, so cousin Nathan would be Nathan Geller Junior.

> That slightly explains the "coming onto cousins" then!

Hehe. :)


>>> Isn't there a Talia Shier in Friends? I recall Estelle mentioning here
>>> getting a part over Joey.

>> That was Talia Shire in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister". She is the
>> sister of Francis Ford Coppola, and has made 45 movies so far. Since
>> she was born in 1946, she'd be quite remarkable as 29-year-old man.

> Lol, wow I have such cool distant relatives!

What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?


>>>> Some claim that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

>>> Yes....Very!

>> You reckon?

> Yeah I think she was entitled to it....I like screechy Monica anyway.

The prime example of this came in 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry", where
Monica warmly assured Chandler it's alright not to cry, then spoke of
her own death, and when he failed to respond with tears, she jumped
up & screeched at him. Did you like her then?


>>> I'd be that mad if I wasn't invited to my cousin's wedding, I think
>>> she's entitled to be like that.

>> So why do you say that she was screechy?

> I'm confused.....I mean she was screechy because she was
> annoyed...especially when she was asking the guests how they were
> related...I think screechy may be a bit harsh...how about.intense?

Yes, "intense" is a much better description of that than "screechy".


>>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>>>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>>>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

>>> But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!

>> We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
>> his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!

> Lol, wouldn't extras do that usually?

I dunno, it might be a contractual or a union thing.


>> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about this,
>> but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice to know...

> U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!

Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.


>> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have


>> been snapped up in the intervening six years.

> She certainly should have been....

Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?

PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.

MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
stop being able to put both legs over your head.

PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.

MONICA: How are you still single?!


>>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?

>>> What the actual restaurant is called "Cafe Des Artistes"?

>> All we know is that in 221 "TOW the Bullies" she said she was a chef at
>> Cafe des Artistes, and this was 16 episodes after she got fired from
>> Iridium. However, the restaurant was never called that, we just see it
>> written on the front in the clip of film.

> So it's an error then?

Maybe not so much an error, as that we pay too much attention to those
little clips of film. If you look at the outside view of the apartment
block (it's the SE corner of Bedford & Grove in Greenwich Village) you
will note that the balconies are different, and the red store on the
ground floor is rather dissimilar from Central Perk.


>>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

>>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"

>> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.

> Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me, and
> my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!

Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...


>>> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe. Having
>>> C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.

>> It does seem very cut & dried.

> Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that mean?

Far too neat, without any loose ends.


>>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

>>> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

>> Not even if she had elocution lessons?

> Still....nooooooooooooo!

What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?


>> I was gonna ask you as well....did you hear radio1 this afternoon, there
>> was a quiz on to win friends goodies...I phoned up and was 2nd/3rd in


>> the queue I think. Unfotunately number 1 won a dvd player, Friends bag
>> and season 7 box set...damn! The questions were easy:

> 1.Who performs the theme tune
> 2. Who played Emily
> 3.What does Phoebe drive
> 4. What is Ross allergic to

> There was another easy question I can't remember! But they should have
> made it harder for die hard fans like us!

It's amazing how many quiz shows ask questions about "Friends", you
rarely hear anything about other sitcoms, especially American ones.


> Off to watch I love 1994

Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!

What did they say about "Friends"?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <2CMo7.485825$EF2.65...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.295fcf4aba...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>> What crimes have the 6 friends committed?
>>>> Here's some we've thought of...

>>>> Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in
>>>> larceny at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
>>>> unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on NYC
>>>> Transport; unauthorised cable access;

>>> Sheesh you're harsh. I'm glad you're not in charge.

>> It's only a list in a review - I'm not judging them, honest... :)

> Ah, Phoebe would have thought you were being all judgmental. Especially
> since you had "suspicion of prostitution" in her list, and "suspicion"
> is not a crime. ;)

I'm not judging them in a moral sense (whether what they're guilty
of was right or wrong), only if the law would regard any of their
actions as a crime, or at least an arrestable offence. Is no-one
in the United States ever arrested on suspicion of something?


>>> It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's
>>> not as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could
>>> always claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made
>>> the channel part of their package.

>> Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to
>> watch, even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the
>> porn went away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV,
>> and no-one touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily
>> when Monica muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to
>> discover with relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.

> You saw that as guilt? It just looked to me like worry (we're going to
> lose this) and relief (we didn't). Still, I don't think this would be
> considered a crime. The worst that could happen, I think, is the cable
> company could figure out they're getting the channel and could then
> scramble it. I don't think they could even bill them for it, let alone
> press charges, because they didn't do anything to receive it.

Isn't unauthorised cable access regarded as theft in America?


>>>> jaywalking on the George Washington bridge; and violating Section 12
>>>> Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, in a storage room at Central Perk.

>>> This Section/paragraph you love to cite does not exist. It's
>>> fictional. I guess they're guilty of a fictional crime (very
>>> Kafkaesque).

>> Lol! Oh dear! Okay, so Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code does
>> not exist (or it does exist but says something quite different so please
>> tell me), but is it legal in America to indulge in public coitus?

> Oh, sure, we Yanks do that all the time and people just clap! ;)

:)


> Nah, I doubt it's legal here, but couldn't find anything in the criminal
> code for NY that spells it out as such (let alone under the
> section/paragraph number).

So there's no Section 12, or if there is it doesn't have a Paragraph 7?


> Could be that it would fall under other offenses.

Give me something to put in its place, and I'll happily change the list.


>>>> Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication,

>>> I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.

>> That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well need
>> rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48 states.

> Okay, I thought you'd put the two as separate offenses. But don't forget
> that Monica was just guessing about the 48. The age of consent is
> actually different in every state, and until sometime in the mid-90s, it
> was actually *14* in Pennsylvania (then went up to 16). So I suspect her
> number was overestimating. In fact, if I remember correctly from the Amy
> Fisher/Joey Buttafuoco case, the age of consent in NYS is 17, which
> would mean she didn't break any laws in Ick Factor (it doesn't matter
> whether it would have been a violation in another state, only that it's
> not a violation where you did it!).

What were the ages of Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco?

Would you care to hazard a guess at which state (apart from Pennsylvania)
is believed by Monica to be the most liberal on this issue?


>>>> Ross - possession of illegal narcotics;

>>> Not necessarily--in NYS one can have a certain amount of marijuana for
>>> one's own use without committing a criminal offense.

>> Indeed? And how much is a certain amount, and how sure can we be that
>> Ross did not have more than that, and did this law apply in the 1980s?

> (a) Don't know the amount; (b) that's why I wrote "not necessarily";
> (c) I think so.

So why did Ross let Chandler take the blame?


>>> Any more?

>>> Probably. My husband has said you could choose any house at random and
>>> find violations of law inside--there are so many laws people break
>>> every day without even knowing it.

>> Yeah, but we're talking only about crimes seen or mentioned in episodes
>> of "Friends". However, I would be most grateful if Mr.Whoeverheis could
>> supply the proper legalistic wording of the more colloquial terms.

> Ah, someone let it slip that we're the Whoeverheises. ;)

Yep, it's on your file... ;)


> Which ones do you want to know?

Here's the list without frills or duplication...

accomplice in larceny
assault
assault & battery


assault with a deadly weapon

breaking & entering
carrying a concealed weapon
child endangerment
coitus in public
controlling a boat under influence of alcohol


defying the Rent Stabilization Act of 1968

embezzlement
fornication & corruption of a minor
grievous bodily harm
impersonating a police officer
indecent exposure
jaywalking
larceny
living off immoral earnings
medical insurance fraud


offering alcoholic liquor to a minor

party to credit card fraud

possession of illegal narcotics
resisting arrest
stealing
suspicion of prostitution
unauthorised cable access
unlawful confinement

..for Mr.W to rewrite whichever are too colloquial.


>>> You probably have a list, too.

>> Not really, there are many lists I'd like to compile, but I don't have
>> that much spare time. The list of crimes has simply accumulated in the
>> latest drafts of this review, as my readers suggest new entries.

> I didn't mean that you've probably *compiled* a list, only that one
> probably *could* compile one for you as you have for the characters.

Oh!! I didn't read it like that, since I'm so pure & innocent.


>>>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>>>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>>>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

>>> Nah, if she middle-named Monica she might stick with her made-up
>>> version, "Monica Baloolah Gellar."

>> That's "Fallula",

> It sounded like "Baloolah" to me, and to Eric Aasen it sounded like
> "Velula." Does your "Fallula" come from the subtitles?

Well for starters, if you listen to what they say on the DVD, which has
much better sound quality, it's *definitely* an eff, then an unstressed
vowel, then an ell, then a long ooo, another ell, and a short ahh.

Now, my reference book says "Falula", and the subtitles say "Felula",
so I looked in the IMDb - but no actress has a name like that.

However, there is Tallulah Bankhead, and if you alter the initial
this gives "Fallulah" as a model. By combining them it's two votes
to one for the 'a', which anyway sounds more like what Phoebe & the
jester said, a single middle 'l', and no final 'h', hence "Falula".

However, this is exactly what the reference book said, which seems
biased, and also the single 'l' in the middle means that the 'u'
is trying to make the first 'a' go long, so with deference to the
great Miss Bankhead, it's a double 'l', hence "Fallula".


Now sweetie, I recognise that the above is not the most convincing of
arguments, so I'm open to suggestions from the fourth letter onwards.


>> and from the very guilty way that Phoebe was hopping around when Rachel
>> found her - "I'm freaking out! Monica kinda trusted me with something
>> and she shouldn't have! Alright, I haven't lived here in a while, so I
>> have to ask you something. Does Monica still turn on the lights in her
>> bedroom? (Rachel agrees) I am soo dead." - it seems to me that Phoebe
>> would not have stuck with her made-up version.

> I think it was her allowing the wrong bed to slip by because of her
> attentiveness, and not signing with a false middle name, that had Phoebe
> feeling guilty. The fake middle name might have been the one hight point
> of the whole experience. ;)

No it wasn't, it was the low point that got her into trouble!


>>> In high school, I knew a guy with a middle initial that didn't stand
>>> for anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.

>> I'm surprised you didn't quote the famous example of Harry S Truman
>> which caused so much trouble between reporters and their editors. It
>> took years for newspapers to accept that "S" was a full word, one
>> letter long - and then the president's wife Margaret Truman published
>> her biography with the title "Harry S. Truman". She said that she
>> preferred the inaccurate version rather having to answer inquiries.
>> Also, it's known that Harry tired of the battle, for some of his
>> signatures do contain the period.

> True, that's a much more famous example (until the guy I knew from high
> school becomes really famous!).

Indeed.


>> It seems to me most unlikely that Jack & Judy Geller would inflict the
>> difficulty of a single letter name on their (even unfavoured) daughter.

> Never know with those two.

No, we don't, but the odds are very heavy that Monica's E is an initial.


>>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

>>> I don't mind. Maybe when Monica got married, she dropped the middle
>>> name, making it a "moo point." ;)

>> Lol, that could be! :)

> Yep, it's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing"
> rather than Monica E. Bing.

Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.


>>>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>>>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

>>> Maybe he was in such demand he couldn't get away?

>> Yes, that might be so, but this was *Phoebe* (pant, pant).

> Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some Phoebe
> time, only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet another
> discussion or session.

If that's so, then he doesn't deserve her, and should never be seen again.


>>>> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross &
>>>> Phoebe or Joey & Phoebe?

>>> Well, I'm not one of the people hoping for either combo.

>> No, but never mind.

> Well, I'll try. . . .

Okay, thanks. :)


>>>> There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady on her beauty
>>>> or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete with that
>>>> desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?

>>>> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>>>> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>>>> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the
>>>> rest of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?

>>> I'd like to see David return from Minsk.

>> Well, we'll see. What did you think of the rest of the episode?

> Oh, JA and MP did a wonderful job with the cheesecake story. They were
> hilarious.

Yes, it was all in the performance - apparently the spoiler fanatics were
not looking forward to this story, since it didn't read well.


> And Joey carrying a fork was just so. . . . Joey. That story was pure fun.

I know. I wonder who thought of adding Joey to the mix right at the
end, for he tops it out so neatly.


> The wedding story was just okay, I think.

Yep. What's your take on the ending?


> Phoebe/David were heartbreaking.

Phoebe/David or Phoebe/Joey? It was after David departed that we had
the really heartbreaking stuff, which completely took me, for it was
wonderful situation comedy whilst not being funny, yet not unfunny.

Owen Shiers

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> >>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
> >>>> Chandler & Rachel were very funny as they descended into the pit.
> >>>> Their chemistry together was fantastic, which is no surprise for Miss
> >>>> Aniston seems to have that effect on Schwimmer & LeBlanc as well as
> >>>> Perry.
>
> >>> I wonder why....
>
> >> It can't be due to her physical attributes, her skill as an actress, or
> >> her superb comic timing, for then she'd be able to lift Cahill, so it
> >> must be something to do with his own abilities or the lack of them.
>
> > Yeah I was only joking...She must have a very happy and uplifting aura
> > about her. She seems to bring out the best in others. Of course if the
> > bes isn't there...she can't!
>
> Ah yes, I quite agree. Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?

Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
>

>
>
> > What about offenses commited on the friends?! I can't think of many
> > offhand but here are some:
>
> > Monica's credit card
> > The crooks stealing the keys/watches in TOW The Bullies
> > The bullies in TOW the Bullies??
>
> I think the bullies were the worst, since you think of that kind of thing
> as something bad in your boyhood, that as a man you needn't worry about.

I totally agree...being bullied is not very nice at all.>
>

>
>
> > I'm sure there are tons more but I can't think of them offhand. Tennant,
I
> > recall you having some sort of Friends database or something, is that
what
> > you use?
>
> I have my own database which I created myself, but there are many areas
> where it is lacking, mainly due to spending too much spare time talking
> to you guys on the newsgroup - which I do because it's great fun. :)

Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some sort of
database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so much time
trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've forgotten.


>
>
> >> That's exactly so. I'm a big C+M fan, and they've had some wonderful
> >> stories together, but please not every damn week whether the writers
> >> have something interesting for them or not.
>
> >> Fortunately, the writers have now started to shake things up a bit.
>
> > I think it could save the show!
>
> Yep!! :)

Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to the girl
who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this season and how they
kinda lost is last season.


>
>
> >> It must be quite horrible. I've never tried tofu, but vegetarian
> >> friends say their secret is good vegetable foodstuffs, not poor
> >> meat substitutes.
>
> > I've got nothing againstr vegetarianism. But I wouldn't be able to cope
> > with it, as long as I know animals are being killed humanly, I don't
> > mind eating meat as cannibalism is natural.
>
> Yes, I know what you mean.

Thanks :) Try telling that to my sister....


>
>
> >> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends
> >> eating food off the hallway floor...
>
> > Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the floor....he
> > was pissed though...
>
> It all depends on how clean the floor is. ;)

Yes but if you don't eat what has touched the floor it doesn't matter!


>
>
> >>> The cheesecake must have been *that* good!
>
> >> It sure was!
>
> > I gotta say, on of my friends seems fascinated with cheesecake....maybe
> > the very idea is silly....I know it tastes nice and I think the food in
> > itself brings a bemused smile to my face.
>
> Oh I know, the whole story makes me so hungry!

Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....


>
>
> >> most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the kind. Writers do
> >> not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity, they have
> >> researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the major
> >> characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves know
> >> their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.
>
> > How can they explain such errors as characters ages then?
>
> Apart from Joey's, the ages hang together quite well actually. But to
> see this, you have to work out their ages to the nearest month, else
> you'll get caught out. Do you not have a copy of my spreadsheet?

No I don't think so....explain please!


>
>
> >> After a while one realises that these 6 people still hang out
> >> together since they all had somewhat peculiar childhoods.
>
> > Birds of a feather and all that....
>
> Yes indeed, it's the key to the characters, and the sitcom's situation.

I think another factor is that it's something we all want and can relate
to....you know being young and hanging out with friends.


>
>
> >>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding.
> >>>> Why didn't we see them?
>
> >>> Maybe Jack wanted to avoid being kissed by Aunt Cheryl (is she his
> >>> sister?)
>
> >> We don't know, but since we haven't heard of her before, I would guess
> >> she's the wife of his brother Nathan, and Millie is married to Edward.
>
> > This is all very confusing!
>
> Another answer is that they just make up extra relatives as they go along.

Lol....seems the most likely
>
>

>
> >>> Isn't there a Talia Shier in Friends? I recall Estelle mentioning here
> >>> getting a part over Joey.
>
> >> That was Talia Shire in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister". She is the
> >> sister of Francis Ford Coppola, and has made 45 movies so far. Since
> >> she was born in 1946, she'd be quite remarkable as 29-year-old man.
>
> > Lol, wow I have such cool distant relatives!
>
> What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?

Hang on that's a bit further from Shier but still i like the "great" part!


>
>
> >>>> Some claim that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>
> >>> Yes....Very!
>
> >> You reckon?
>
> > Yeah I think she was entitled to it....I like screechy Monica anyway.
>
> The prime example of this came in 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry", where
> Monica warmly assured Chandler it's alright not to cry, then spoke of
> her own death, and when he failed to respond with tears, she jumped
> up & screeched at him. Did you like her then?

Oh no...she's funny like that but not likeable....I especially like her and
Ross's " I KNOW!"


>
>
> >>> I'd be that mad if I wasn't invited to my cousin's wedding, I think
> >>> she's entitled to be like that.
>
> >> So why do you say that she was screechy?
>
> > I'm confused.....I mean she was screechy because she was
> > annoyed...especially when she was asking the guests how they were
> > related...I think screechy may be a bit harsh...how about.intense?
>
> Yes, "intense" is a much better description of that than "screechy".

Screechy reminds me of owls!


>
>
> >>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> >>>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> >>>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
> >>> But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!
>
> >> We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
> >> his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!
>
> > Lol, wouldn't extras do that usually?
>
> I dunno, it might be a contractual or a union thing.

Must be a pretty boring job though ;)


>
>
> >> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about
this,
> >> but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice to
know...
>
> > U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!
>
> Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.

Ahhh the wonders of Microsoft calculator!


>
>
> >> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have
> >> been snapped up in the intervening six years.
>
> > She certainly should have been....
>
> Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?
>
> PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.
>
> MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
> stop being able to put both legs over your head.
>
> PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.
>
> MONICA: How are you still single?!

I'm surprised that she hasn't had at least one "long" relationship....Gary
was about 2-3 months wasn't he?


>
>
> >>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
>
> >>> What the actual restaurant is called "Cafe Des Artistes"?
>
> >> All we know is that in 221 "TOW the Bullies" she said she was a chef at
> >> Cafe des Artistes, and this was 16 episodes after she got fired from
> >> Iridium. However, the restaurant was never called that, we just see it
> >> written on the front in the clip of film.
>
> > So it's an error then?
>
> Maybe not so much an error, as that we pay too much attention to those
> little clips of film. If you look at the outside view of the apartment
> block (it's the SE corner of Bedford & Grove in Greenwich Village) you
> will note that the balconies are different, and the red store on the
> ground floor is rather dissimilar from Central Perk.

Lol I've certainly noticed that....I gave Helena directions there when she
went to New York and she's taken some photos for me. When everntually I get
them we'll be able to see in further detail hopefully. Have you ever been to
NY?


>
>
> >>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..
>
> >>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"
>
> >> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.
>
> > Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me, and
> > my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!
>
> Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...

I suppose, Picture Perfect isn't exactly my Mum's cup of tea


I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe. Having
> >>> C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.
>
> >> It does seem very cut & dried.
>
> > Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that mean?
>
> Far too neat, without any loose ends.

ahhhhh ok I get you. Thanks, and yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be very
realistic....but Friends isn't that realistic anyway!


>
>
> >>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
> >>> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> >> Not even if she had elocution lessons?
>
> > Still....nooooooooooooo!
>
> What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?

I think the voice justifies as 1000 reasons for not liking her! Now *she* is
screechy!


>
>
> >> I was gonna ask you as well....did you hear radio1 this afternoon,
there
> >> was a quiz on to win friends goodies...I phoned up and was 2nd/3rd in
> >> the queue I think. Unfotunately number 1 won a dvd player, Friends bag
> >> and season 7 box set...damn! The questions were easy:
>
> > 1.Who performs the theme tune
> > 2. Who played Emily
> > 3.What does Phoebe drive
> > 4. What is Ross allergic to
>
> > There was another easy question I can't remember! But they should have
> > made it harder for die hard fans like us!
>
> It's amazing how many quiz shows ask questions about "Friends", you
> rarely hear anything about other sitcoms, especially American ones.

Well how many other American sitcoms have been that successful over here?


>
>
> > Off to watch I love 1994
>
> Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!
>
> What did they say about "Friends"?
>
>

> Quite a bit actually....about how the rembrants song was really
sucsessful....urm they showed various clips from season 1 and season 7 with
bits from the classic "you kissed my mom" plot. Urm they showed bits from
the rembrants video and also a BBC interview (I think)with the three guys
around 1996 (MP was thin so I guessed that) I think the interviewer was that
woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I can't remember...have you seen it?
DS was talking about how they agreed at the start not to get involved with
one another, MLB claimed that that was now out the window. They also had a
bit about "The Shag"...Otherwise it was pretty crap actually.....apart from
Mel and Sue...they rock!

Owen


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.4780044aba...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9nvfgv$dk1$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>
> >> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
> >> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
> >> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
> >> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.
>
> > C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...
>
> They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.

I'm still okay with Tag.

> > However, MP still seemed a bit off.
>
> I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.

I think I am...

> > It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might not
> > have worked so well.
>
> Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first time
> it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.

She did, didn't she?

> >> The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
> >> to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
> >> it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
> >> fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.
>
> > Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?
>
> No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came begging
> for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex really loud.

Oh, I knew there was something. I forgot about that. Maybe the loud
sex lady IS Mrs Chatracus?

> >> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
> >> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".
>
> > Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.
>
> Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.

Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!

> >> Something new to add to the growing list of Things That Joey Won't Eat,
> >> tofu. I know that not everyone likes this meat substitute, but even so
> >> I'm surprised that omnivorous Joey wouldn't touch it.
>
> > You'd have thought that after Rachel's trifle he'd be open to
> > everything...
>
> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...

When? I don't remember.

> > maybe he wouldn't have eaten it if it had had tofu instead of meat - or
> > maybe Phoebe would have, and found that she loved it.
>
> I don't know, I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they
> prepare wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.

I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
there ever was.

> >> According to the filming report by CGleason9, JA & MP were laughing so
> >> hard throughout their final scene that they had to keep redoing it. JA
> >> laughed the hardest when MLB kept eating the cheesecake even after the
> >> director said cut, because JA & MP never actually ate any of it.
>
> > Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
>
> Oh gosh yes, me too. I wish I could have been at the filming of S8-03 on
> August 24th, to see & enjoy the original episode in happy innocence.

Me too :(

> >> A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?
>
> > No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
> > maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
>
> Hey, yes! And you *are* a true fan! :)

My handbag is like Phoebe's. I have a cordless hair curler in there in
case of emergencies. Before you laugh, let me tell you that it has
been extremely useful on a couple of occasions (for when your hair
does that Woo-hoo! thing).

> >> Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> >> boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
> >> enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
> >> Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> >> by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
> >> yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
> >> and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
>
> > She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
> > same?
>
> I don't know, but it's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely
> different once you hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...

Probably. "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.

> >> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
> >> Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
> >> friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
> >> schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?
>
> > It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
> > mean, I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that
> > we hear, it doesn't make sense.
>
> Could it be that big-nosed Rachel felt better about herself by having
> fat Monica standing next to her? Plus we know that Monica knew how to
> make Rachel laugh. And maybe the other girls resented Rachel's wealth.

Maybe they were best friends when they were younger - maybe about age
9 - 12, then Rachel joined the popular group and Monica started taking
time off school?

> >> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
> >> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
> >> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
> >> leanings towards Ross.
>
> > Well, my. Who would have thought?
>
> Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?

Gay Monica :)

> >> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> >> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> >> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> >> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> >> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
>
> > Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
> > that.
>
> Oh! Good point, sweetie. No-one's thought of that before.
>
> The IMDb has 264 actors and 6 actresses named Glenn, so it does tend
> to be a boy's name, but even so as you say it could be a girl's name.
>
> So with the possibilities of a baby or a disabled guy or a girl it
> shows that we shouldn't assume that there was anything gay referred
> to here - not that there would be anything wrong if there was.

There's always a way around everything. But the writers clearly meant
it as a gay reference.

> >> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?
>
> > Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
>
> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...

In disguise?!

> >> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> >> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> >> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
>
> > Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
> > Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all, even
> > Richard didn't recognise her at first.
>
> Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.

I'm very wise - like Phoebe!

> >> I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
> >> (since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
> >> a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
> >> rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
> >> he was the Health teacher!
>
> > At least, let's hope not!
>
> Yes, let's!

Otherwise that's just scary... did you watch Lolita last night??

> >> Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>
> > No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> >> Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
> >> own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?
>
> > I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > ex-best-friend was marrying!
>
> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?

Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
why she wasn't invited.

> >> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> >> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> >> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
> > Oh, those critics...
>
> Sigh. Yes.

Never mind.

> >> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> >> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> >> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>
> > How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.
>
> It does a bit, but it also sounds like something else... ;)

Okay...?

> >> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
> > I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> > Tennant?
>
> I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".

Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
middle name. Want me to dig it out?

> >> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
> > Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
> > but it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so
> > he went straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...
>
> Yes, but she moved back in last week, didn't she?

Shh. Don't spoil my plot line. David tried to call Phoebe from Minsk
before he left, to tell her that he was returning. This was before she
moved in, so when he dialled it said "This number is not recognised"
or something. So when he got to NY he went straight to Central Perk,
to wait for his love. Sigh...

> >> We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> >> this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
> >> not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
> >> Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
>
> > Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> > sometimes. You don't have to go commando all the time.
>
> Oh, that's a relief to know. :)

I get the feeling that you knew that already.

> >> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.
>
> > Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
>
> What would happen if she did find out?

She'd be upset. And for a good reason.

> >> If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> >> Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
>
> >> What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
>
> > Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
> > biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.
>
> Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
> movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?

I have most of her movies! Heehee! Well of course she'd be causing
havoc - she could probably find something to be angry at Ross for.
Maybe he brought his banana-and-mealworm cake along with him and it
made her hair smell funny? She's going to get revenge!

> > And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below
> > - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.
>
> Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?

No I haven't. :(

> > How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!
>
> Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
> around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
> would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?

Yep, Sophie's nice. It would be really funny if you got Jasmine thingy
and Megan Mullally and Jennifer Tilly and Joey Lauren Adams all in the
same room.

> >> ---o0o---
>
> >> What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> >> or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
> >> on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
> >> with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
> > Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> > his personality to shreds with Joey...
>
> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

> >> Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> >> determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> >> one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> >> of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
>
> >> As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
>
> >> As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
>
> >> As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
>
> >> As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
>
> >> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
> > And why not? You have to love her!
>
> Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)

Oh, totally. Or Pete!

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It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she probably
has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".


>
> >Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> >boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
> >enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
> >Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> >by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
> >yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
> >and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
>
>
> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
> same?

I'm sure you're not that bad! For a start, did your Dad buy you a sailing
boat when your pony was sick?


>
> >Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first met
> >Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
> >friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
> >schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?
>
>
> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
mean,
> I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that we hear,
it
> doesn't make sense.

I think there may have been a bit of an error here...but you can have more
than 1 best friend!


>
> >Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
> >and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
> >of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
> >leanings towards Ross.
>
>
> Well, my. Who would have thought?

I was certainly taken aback


>
> >Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> >which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> >However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> >him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> >grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
>
>
> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
that.

I'm sure it was a boy because it makes the joke even more strange funny.


>
> >Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?
>
>
> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

Maybe the writers forgot.


>
> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
> >
> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
>
>
> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all, even
> Richard didn't recognise her at first.

Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long time.....


>
> >I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
> >(since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
> >a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
> >rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
> >he was the Health teacher!
>
>
> At least, let's hope not!

Good god yes!


>
> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>
>
> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.

She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.


>
> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?
>
>
> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> ex-best-friend was marrying!

Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on ruining
Frannie's day.


>
> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
>
> Oh, those critics...

Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....


>
> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>
>
> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.

How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny


>
> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
>
> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> Tennant?
>

Elsie Elsie!!

> >David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
> >like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
> >take far longer than originally expected?
> >
> >Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
> >it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
> >once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
> >Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
> >was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".
> >
> >International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
>
> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
but
> it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so he went
> straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...

He must have known about Monica's apartment though?


>
> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
>
>
> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear sometimes.
> You don't have to go commando all the time.

I wouldn't want to all the time!


>
> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
>
>
> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
>

We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"

> >If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> >Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
> >
> >What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
>
>
> Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
biased
> because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan. And it
would
> be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below - because Joey
> really doesn't have anybody. How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really
> like her!

What the back of her head?


>
> > ---o0o---
> >
> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>
>
> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping his
> personality to shreds with Joey...

I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.


>
> >Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> >determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> >one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> >of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
> >
> >As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
> >
> >As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
> >
> >As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
> >
> >As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
> >
> >As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
>
> And why not? You have to love her!

Do I have to?

Owen
>
>


Mardi

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"Paul Hyett" <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> stated this considered
> view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> >
> > In fact, if I remember correctly from the Amy Fisher/Joey
> >Buttafuoco case, the age of consent in NYS is 17, which would mean she
> >didn't break any laws in Ick Factor (it doesn't matter whether it would
have
> >been a violation in another state, only that it's not a violation where
you
> >did it!).
> >
> What happens if you are under a State's AoC, but you were legally
> married in a different country?
>
> I think the law would just have to ignore it in these circumstances.

I think you're right about that one, though the couple could have to go
through hell proving it.

> >> Lol, that could be! :)
> >
> >Yep, it's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing"
rather
> >than Monica E. Bing.
> >
> There's also the speculation that Ben is clairvoyant, and was actually
> saying Monica *Bing* in TOW the Giant Poking Device. :)

Hee hee. Maybe. :)

Mardi


Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <2CMo7.485825$EF2.65...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.295fcf4aba...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>> What crimes have the 6 friends committed?
> >>>> Here's some we've thought of...
>
> >>>> Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice in
> >>>> larceny at Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
> >>>> unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on NYC
> >>>> Transport; unauthorised cable access;
>
> >>> Sheesh you're harsh. I'm glad you're not in charge.
>
> >> It's only a list in a review - I'm not judging them, honest... :)
>
> > Ah, Phoebe would have thought you were being all judgmental. Especially
> > since you had "suspicion of prostitution" in her list, and "suspicion"
> > is not a crime. ;)
>
> I'm not judging them in a moral sense (whether what they're guilty
> of was right or wrong), only if the law would regard any of their
> actions as a crime, or at least an arrestable offence. Is no-one
> in the United States ever arrested on suspicion of something?

You can be arrested for suspicion of something, but I thought you'd been
listing crimes, which suggests that they could be convicted for these
things.

> >>> It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's
> >>> not as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could
> >>> always claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made
> >>> the channel part of their package.
>
> >> Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to
> >> watch, even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the
> >> porn went away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV,
> >> and no-one touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily
> >> when Monica muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to
> >> discover with relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.
>
> > You saw that as guilt? It just looked to me like worry (we're going to
> > lose this) and relief (we didn't). Still, I don't think this would be
> > considered a crime. The worst that could happen, I think, is the cable
> > company could figure out they're getting the channel and could then
> > scramble it. I don't think they could even bill them for it, let alone
> > press charges, because they didn't do anything to receive it.
>
> Isn't unauthorised cable access regarded as theft in America?

If you went out and mucked around with the wires to get yourself free cable
it would be. If the cable company or one of its employees goofed and
provided access to the channels, I don't think the recipients would be
liable.

> > Oh, sure, we Yanks do that all the time and people just clap! ;)
>
> :)
>
>
> > Nah, I doubt it's legal here, but couldn't find anything in the criminal
> > code for NY that spells it out as such (let alone under the
> > section/paragraph number).
>
> So there's no Section 12, or if there is it doesn't have a Paragraph 7?

No section 12.

> > Could be that it would fall under other offenses.
>
> Give me something to put in its place, and I'll happily change the list.

Finding anything in the law codes is convoluted at best. You might be
interested in poking around at:

http://guide.lp.findlaw.com/11stategov/ny/laws.html

and

http://www.findlaw.com/

> >>>> Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; fornication,
>
> >>> I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.
>
> >> That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well
need
> >> rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48
states.
>
> > Okay, I thought you'd put the two as separate offenses. But don't forget
> > that Monica was just guessing about the 48. The age of consent is
> > actually different in every state, and until sometime in the mid-90s, it
> > was actually *14* in Pennsylvania (then went up to 16). So I suspect her
> > number was overestimating. In fact, if I remember correctly from the Amy
> > Fisher/Joey Buttafuoco case, the age of consent in NYS is 17, which
> > would mean she didn't break any laws in Ick Factor (it doesn't matter
> > whether it would have been a violation in another state, only that it's
> > not a violation where you did it!).
>
> What were the ages of Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco?

Fisher was 16, and Buttafuoco was in his 40s.

> Would you care to hazard a guess at which state (apart from Pennsylvania)
> is believed by Monica to be the most liberal on this issue?

Monica would probably assume states in the deep south would be more liberal
about this (Arkansas? Mississippi?), only because of stereotypes
northerners have. Which is kind of funny considering CCA is southern
herself (Alabama).

> >>>> Ross - possession of illegal narcotics;
>
> >>> Not necessarily--in NYS one can have a certain amount of marijuana for
> >>> one's own use without committing a criminal offense.
>
> >> Indeed? And how much is a certain amount, and how sure can we be that
> >> Ross did not have more than that, and did this law apply in the 1980s?
>
> > (a) Don't know the amount; (b) that's why I wrote "not necessarily";
> > (c) I think so.
>
> So why did Ross let Chandler take the blame?

Fear of his parents' wrath/disapproval, probably.

He says it depends on the state--they could apply in some state(s) and not
any of the others. "Open and gross lewdness" came to mind as a possibility
for "coitus in public" and "accomplice liability" is usually laid out in a
general way for all crimes (rather than having a separate category for each,
i.e. "accomplice to larceny.").

So, again, you might want to poke around at the sites I mention above if you
have the time and inclination. . . .

BTW, what exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral earnings"?
Arguably, many CEOs do this. . . . ;)

> ..for Mr.W to rewrite whichever are too colloquial.
>
>
> >>> You probably have a list, too.
>
> >> Not really, there are many lists I'd like to compile, but I don't have
> >> that much spare time. The list of crimes has simply accumulated in the
> >> latest drafts of this review, as my readers suggest new entries.
>
> > I didn't mean that you've probably *compiled* a list, only that one
> > probably *could* compile one for you as you have for the characters.
>
> Oh!! I didn't read it like that, since I'm so pure & innocent.

Ah, that's not what the poor sap in the iron mask says. ;)

> >> and from the very guilty way that Phoebe was hopping around when Rachel
> >> found her - "I'm freaking out! Monica kinda trusted me with something
> >> and she shouldn't have! Alright, I haven't lived here in a while, so I
> >> have to ask you something. Does Monica still turn on the lights in her
> >> bedroom? (Rachel agrees) I am soo dead." - it seems to me that Phoebe
> >> would not have stuck with her made-up version.
>
> > I think it was her allowing the wrong bed to slip by because of her

> > [in]attentiveness, and not signing with a false middle name, that had


Phoebe
> > feeling guilty. The fake middle name might have been the one hight point
> > of the whole experience. ;)
>
> No it wasn't, it was the low point that got her into trouble!

But if she'd paid attention and noticed the wrong bed were being delivered,
the fake middle name would never have been an issue.

> >> It seems to me most unlikely that Jack & Judy Geller would inflict the
> >> difficulty of a single letter name on their (even unfavoured) daughter.
>
> > Never know with those two.
>
> No, we don't, but the odds are very heavy that Monica's E is an initial.

Probably, but it might just stay that way forever (and I wouldn't mind
because I don't have much interest in middle names, having dropped my own).

> >>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
> >>> I don't mind. Maybe when Monica got married, she dropped the middle
> >>> name, making it a "moo point." ;)
>
> >> Lol, that could be! :)
>
> > Yep, it's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing"
> > rather than Monica E. Bing.
>
> Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.

As you like to say, I guess we'll have to wait and see, but in the meantime,
the IMDb has taken the liberty of covering all bases with "Monica E. Geller
Bing," which I think is the least likely outcome.

> >>>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >>>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
> >>> Maybe he was in such demand he couldn't get away?
>
> >> Yes, that might be so, but this was *Phoebe* (pant, pant).
>
> > Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some Phoebe
> > time, only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet another
> > discussion or session.
>
> If that's so, then he doesn't deserve her, and should never be seen again.

Awwww--you're cruel. :(

> >>> I'd like to see David return from Minsk.
>
> >> Well, we'll see. What did you think of the rest of the episode?
>
> > Oh, JA and MP did a wonderful job with the cheesecake story. They were
> > hilarious.
>
> Yes, it was all in the performance - apparently the spoiler fanatics were
> not looking forward to this story, since it didn't read well.
>
>
> > And Joey carrying a fork was just so. . . . Joey. That story was pure
fun.
>
> I know. I wonder who thought of adding Joey to the mix right at the
> end, for he tops it out so neatly.
>
>
> > The wedding story was just okay, I think.
>
> Yep. What's your take on the ending?
>
>
> > Phoebe/David were heartbreaking.
>
> Phoebe/David or Phoebe/Joey? It was after David departed that we had
> the really heartbreaking stuff, which completely took me, for it was
> wonderful situation comedy whilst not being funny, yet not unfunny.

The whole thing--Phoebe/David made Phoebe/Joey possible and poignant. This
makes me hope more than ever that Phoebe and David are ultimately reunited
for good on the show. I'm sorry, but if the show ends of with the main six
all paired up with one another), I'll be disappointed. If they find a way
to make R & R work, fine. But let's see Phoebe/David; Joey/Kate (or
Joey/someone else). Let's mix things up.

Mardi


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Owen Shiers wrote in message
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>
>> >
>> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
>>
>> >A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?
>>
>>
>> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
>> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
>
>It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she
probably
>has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".


How do we know she doesn't have a fork in there too? Plus if Joey has one
they can share. Rachel ate some cheesecake from Chandler's fork in this ep.

>> >Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
>> >boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet proud
>> >enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated by
>> >Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
>> >by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion game,
>> >yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo point;
>> >and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
>>
>>
>> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
>> same?
>
>I'm sure you're not that bad! For a start, did your Dad buy you a sailing
>boat when your pony was sick?


No, he bought me a kitten.

>> >Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
met
>> >Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's best
>> >friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
>> >schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had Mindy?
>>
>>
>> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
>mean,
>> I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that we hear,
>it
>> doesn't make sense.
>
>I think there may have been a bit of an error here...but you can have more
>than 1 best friend!


You can have several close friends, but generally when you're that age you
have one *best* friend.

>> >Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>> >and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>> >of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>> >leanings towards Ross.
>>
>>
>> Well, my. Who would have thought?
>
>I was certainly taken aback


Hehe :)

>> >Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>> >which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>> >However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>> >him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>> >grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
>>
>>
>> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
>that.
>
>I'm sure it was a boy because it makes the joke even more strange funny.


Well, that's definitely what the writers were going for. I'm just exploring
possibilities...

>> >Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see them?
>>
>>
>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
>
>Maybe the writers forgot.


Maybe :)

>> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
>> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
>> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
>> >
>> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
>>
>>
>> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
>> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all, even
>> Richard didn't recognise her at first.
>
>Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long time.....


Nor has Aunt Millie.

>> >I did not need to check if there has ever been a Stuart in "Friends",
>> >(since it's my name), but the nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW
>> >a Chick. And a Duck". Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she
>> >rejected) in the seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since
>> >he was the Health teacher!
>>
>>
>> At least, let's hope not!
>
>Good god yes!


Eep... scary

>> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>>
>>
>> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
>
>She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.


I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was peeved
(such a cool word!)

>> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into her
>> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting Stuart?
>>
>>
>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
>> ex-best-friend was marrying!
>
>Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on ruining
>Frannie's day.


She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't know that
her brother got an invitation.

>> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>>
>>
>> Oh, those critics...
>
>Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....


Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".

>> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>>
>>
>> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.
>
>How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny


Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".

>> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>>
>>
>> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
>> Tennant?
>>
>Elsie Elsie!!


I quite like that!

>> >David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
>> >like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
>> >take far longer than originally expected?
>> >
>> >Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
>> >it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
>> >once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
>> >Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
>> >was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".
>> >
>> >International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>> >David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>>
>>
>> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
>but
>> it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so he
went
>> straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...
>
>He must have known about Monica's apartment though?


Shh! Quit spoiling my plot! I'm making an epic love story here, can't you
see? :)

>> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
>> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
>> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
>> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear sometimes.
>> You don't have to go commando all the time.
>
>I wouldn't want to all the time!


Especially not in winter.

>> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
>>
>>
>> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
>>
>We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"


She'd more likely just be upset.

>> >If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
>> >Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
>> >
>> >What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
>>
>>
>> Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
>biased
>> because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan. And it
>would
>> be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below - because Joey
>> really doesn't have anybody. How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really
>> like her!
>
>What the back of her head?


Umm, let's see. When Ross was discovering the trail from Chloe to Rachel,
she told him he did a "bad thing", she got Phoebe's brother Frank into an
armlock when he touched her up and she described Paolo as "yum". She just
has the coolest voice!

>> > ---o0o---
>> >
>> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross & Phoebe
>> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the lady
>> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these compete
>> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
>>
>>
>> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
his
>> personality to shreds with Joey...
>
>I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.


I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)

>> >Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
>> >determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
>> >one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
>> >of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
>> >
>> >As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
>> >
>> >As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
>> >
>> >As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
>> >
>> >As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
>> >
>> >As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>>
>>
>> And why not? You have to love her!
>
>Do I have to?


Yeah... it's like a rule - if you want to be a Friends fan, you have to do
the special Janice Initiation Test. They lock you in a room with the mix
tape and make you listen to it on repeat for four hours.


Tennant Stuart

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In article <$O9RBSBF...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>> What do you think that Monica would do to him? Or to her?

> Well, maybe the cheesecake would get inserted at the wrong end? :)

What would be worse up there - dry & mealy, or buttery & crumbly?


>> I don't like to drag people's names up.

> Don't you mean 'down'? :)

No, 'up' as in 'into attention. :)


>> I'm sure you're right - and it shows how clever Joey & Phoebe are

> 'Clever' & 'Joey' - those are two words I never expected to see in the
> same sentence!

Joey is no genius, but he is cleverer than he sometimes pretends to be,
and much more clever than Chandler thinks he is. The series is peppered
with examples of Joey being clever, which I have often commented on.


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <buwYZ5Az...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>>> It's not Joey and Chandler's fault they got that porn channel--it's not
>>> as if they did anything to rig up their cable, and they could always
>>> claim that they didn't realize the cable company had not made the
>>> channel part of their package.

>> Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to watch,
>> even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the porn went
>> away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV, and no-one
>> touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily when Monica
>> muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to discover with
>> relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.

> I wish something like that happened to me!

You'd grow bored with it after a few days, like Joey & Chandler did. :)


>>> I don't think "fornication" is on the books in NYS law.

>> That was "fornication, and corruption of a minor", which might well need
>> rewording. Anyway, according to Monica it made her a felon in 48 states.

> But not in New York? Besides, it wasn't like she meant to do it - Ethan
> lied about his age.

It would still be enough to get her arrested, and then her lawyer would
have to convince a jury. And if Ethan lied in court, she'd be sunk.


>>> In high school, I knew a guy with a middle initial that didn't stand
>>> for anything. Maybe that's what Monica has.

> Rather like Homer J Simpson.

Homer discovered his middle name is Jay in 1006 "D'oh-in' in the Wind".


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01091...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<na.4780044aba...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"

>>>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
>>>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>>>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

>>> C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...

>> They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.

> I'm still okay with Tag.

You are very kind-hearted.


>>> However, MP still seemed a bit off.

>> I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.

> I think I am...

Okay.


>>> It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might
>>> not have worked so well.

>> Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first time
>> it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.

> She did, didn't she?

Yep, that's why it's hard to see that Perry was off form.


>>>> The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
>>>> to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
>>>> it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
>>>> fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.

>>> Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?

>> No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came begging
>> for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex really loud.

> Oh, I knew there was something. I forgot about that. Maybe the loud
> sex lady IS Mrs Chatracus?

I can't deny that explicitly, but she sounds to me like she is a little
old lady in 415 "TOW All the Rugby".


>>>> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
>>>> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".

>>> Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.

>> Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.

> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!

Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.


>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...

> When? I don't remember.

Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".


>> I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they prepare
>> wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.

> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
> there ever was.

Ooh, lovely! :)


>> I wish I could have been at the filming of S8-03 on August 24th, to see
>> & enjoy the original episode in happy innocence.

> Me too :(

Yep. Sigh.

>> You *are* a true fan! :)

> My handbag is like Phoebe's. I have a cordless hair curler in there in
> case of emergencies. Before you laugh, let me tell you that it has
> been extremely useful on a couple of occasions (for when your hair
> does that Woo-hoo! thing).

My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.


>> It's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely different once you


>> hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...

> Probably. "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.

Lol, yes.


>>>> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
>>>> met Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become
>>>> Monica's best friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that
>>>> they were mainly schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie,
>>>> and Rachel had Mindy?

>>> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
>>> mean, I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that
>>> we hear, it doesn't make sense.

>> Could it be that big-nosed Rachel felt better about herself by having
>> fat Monica standing next to her? Plus we know that Monica knew how to
>> make Rachel laugh. And maybe the other girls resented Rachel's wealth.

> Maybe they were best friends when they were younger - maybe about age
> 9 - 12, then Rachel joined the popular group and Monica started taking
> time off school?

I don't think so - without assembling all the references, that's not the
impression I get from the show.


>>>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>>>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>>>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>>>> leanings towards Ross.

>>> Well, my. Who would have thought?

>> Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?

> Gay Monica :)

Hmmm... wait & see. :)


>>>> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>>>> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>>>> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>>>> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>>>> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?

>>> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
>>> that.

>> Oh! Good point, sweetie. No-one's thought of that before.

>> The IMDb has 264 actors and 6 actresses named Glenn, so it does tend
>> to be a boy's name, but even so as you say it could be a girl's name.

>> So with the possibilities of a baby or a disabled guy or a girl it
>> shows that we shouldn't assume that there was anything gay referred
>> to here - not that there would be anything wrong if there was.

> There's always a way around everything. But the writers clearly meant
> it as a gay reference.

It would seem that way, especially since Monica shushes Chandler.


>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
> them?

>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...

> In disguise?!

Yes!


>>>> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>>>> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>>>> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?

>>> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
>>> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
>>> even Richard didn't recognise her at first.

>> Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.

> I'm very wise - like Phoebe!

What what what???

You've changed horses!


>>>> The nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW a Chick. And a Duck".


>>>> Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she rejected) in the
>>>> seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since he was the
>>>> Health teacher!

>>> At least, let's hope not!

>> Yes, let's!

> Otherwise that's just scary... did you watch Lolita last night??

No.

The book is brilliant literature though, this is how it begins...

Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul.

Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps
down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta.

She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock.
She was Lola in slacks.
She was Dolly at school.
She was Dolores on the dotted line.

But in my arms she was always Lolita.


>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!

>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?

> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
> why she wasn't invited.

So why didn't he tell her?


>>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>>>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>>>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

>>> Oh, those critics...

>> Sigh. Yes.

> Never mind.

:)


>>>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>>>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>>>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?

>>> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.

>> It does a bit, but it also sounds like something else...

> Okay...?

I think we had best leave it at that. :)


>>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

>>> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
>>> Tennant?

>> I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".

> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
> middle name. Want me to dig it out?

Yes please.


>>>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>>>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?

>>> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her
>>> apartment, but it was before she moved back in and the lines were
>>> still down - so he went straight to her hang-out, Central Perk,
>>> eagerly awaiting her...

>> Yes, but she moved back in last week, didn't she?

> Shh. Don't spoil my plot line.

LOL


> David tried to call Phoebe from Minsk before he left, to tell her that
> he was returning. This was before she moved in, so when he dialled it
> said "This number is not recognised" or something. So when he got to NY
> he went straight to Central Perk, to wait for his love. Sigh...

So romantic...


>>>> We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
>>>> this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
>>>> not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
>>>> Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.

>>> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
>>> sometimes. You don't have to go commando all the time.

>> Oh, that's a relief to know. :)

> I get the feeling that you knew that already.

Confirmation is always welcome.


>>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.

>>> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!

>> What would happen if she did find out?

> She'd be upset. And for a good reason.

They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.


>>> It would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm


>>> biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.

>> Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
>> movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?

> I have most of her movies! Heehee! Well of course she'd be causing
> havoc - she could probably find something to be angry at Ross for.
> Maybe he brought his banana-and-mealworm cake along with him and it
> made her hair smell funny? She's going to get revenge!

Lol, and what would she do to Joey?


>>> And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned
>>> below - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.

>> Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?

> No I haven't. :(

It's not as bad a movie as people say, though not good either,
but IMHO Dina Meyer is very good in it.


>>> How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!

>> Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
>> around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
>> would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?

> Yep, Sophie's nice. It would be really funny if you got Jasmine thingy
> and Megan Mullally and Jennifer Tilly and Joey Lauren Adams all in the
> same room.

Why Jennifer Tilly, and not Christine Baranski?


>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...

>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.

> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

Exactly.


>>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

>>> And why not? You have to love her!

>> Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)

> Oh, totally. Or Pete!

No, Pete doesn't deserve to get lucky, he's got money, but Richard
gave his brownie point meter a good spin in the last finale.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <Yz1p7.20457$Pm5.4...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?

> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
> something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.

It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.


> Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some sort of
> database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so much time
> trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've forgotten.

You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.


> Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to the
> girl who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this season and
> how they kinda lost is last season.

I reckon that S6 was better overall than S1, S3, S4 or S5.


>>>> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends
>>>> eating food off the hallway floor...

>>> Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the floor....he
>>> was pissed though...

>> It all depends on how clean the floor is. ;)

> Yes but if you don't eat what has touched the floor it doesn't matter!

That's what Rachel was doing.


>>>>> The cheesecake must have been *that* good!

>>>> It sure was!

>>> I gotta say, on of my friends seems fascinated with
>>> cheesecake....maybe the very idea is silly....I know it tastes nice
>>> and I think the food in itself brings a bemused smile to my face.

>> Oh I know, the whole story makes me so hungry!

> Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....

Look them up on the internet.


>>>> most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the kind. Writers do
>>>> not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity, they have
>>>> researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the major
>>>> characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves
>>>> know their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.

>>> How can they explain such errors as characters ages then?

>> Apart from Joey's, the ages hang together quite well actually. But to
>> see this, you have to work out their ages to the nearest month, else
>> you'll get caught out. Do you not have a copy of my spreadsheet?

> No I don't think so....explain please!

I'll post it to you.


>>>> After a while one realises that these 6 people still hang out
>>>> together since they all had somewhat peculiar childhoods.

>>> Birds of a feather and all that....

>> Yes indeed, it's the key to the characters, and the sitcom's situation.

> I think another factor is that it's something we all want and can relate
> to....you know being young and hanging out with friends.

Very true.


>> What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?

> Hang on that's a bit further from Shier but still i like the "great"
> part!

He's done some brilliant work.


>>>>>> Some claim that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?

>>>>> Yes....Very!

>>>> You reckon?

>>> Yeah I think she was entitled to it....I like screechy Monica anyway.

>> The prime example of this came in 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry", where
>> Monica warmly assured Chandler it's alright not to cry, then spoke of
>> her own death, and when he failed to respond with tears, she jumped
>> up & screeched at him. Did you like her then?

> Oh no...she's funny like that but not likeable....

Well, *that* is screechy.


> I especially like her and Ross's " I KNOW!"

Me too. And Phoebe's "Oh no".


> Screechy reminds me of owls!

This is true. :)


>>>>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
>>>>>> character Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers
>>>>>> have not forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.

>>>>> But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!

>>>> We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
>>>> his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!

>>> Lol, wouldn't extras do that usually?

>> I dunno, it might be a contractual or a union thing.

> Must be a pretty boring job though ;)

Wait & see...


>>>> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about
>>>> this, but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice
>>>> to know...

>>> U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!

>> Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.

> Ahhh the wonders of Microsoft calculator!

Eek no, I did it in my head.


>>>> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have
>>>> been snapped up in the intervening six years.

>>> She certainly should have been....

>> Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?

>> PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.

>> MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
>> stop being able to put both legs over your head.

>> PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.

>> MONICA: How are you still single?!

> I'm surprised that she hasn't had at least one "long" relationship....

> Gary was about 2-3 months wasn't he?

No, much less than that - airdates 4th March to 22nd April 1999.


>> We pay too much attention to those little clips of film. If you look at


>> the outside view of the apartment block (it's the SE corner of Bedford
>> & Grove in Greenwich Village) you will note that the balconies are
>> different, and the red store on the ground floor is rather dissimilar
>> from Central Perk.

> Lol I've certainly noticed that....I gave Helena directions there
> when she went to New York and she's taken some photos for me.

> When everntually I get them we'll be able to see in further detail
> hopefully. Have you ever been to NY?

Not yet, and now it's too late for one big chunk of it.


>>>>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

>>>>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"

>>>> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.

>>> Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me,
>>> and my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!

>> Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...

> I suppose, Picture Perfect isn't exactly my Mum's cup of tea

No, it was a dreadful picture, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".


>>>>> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe.
>>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.

>>>> It does seem very cut & dried.

>>> Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that mean?

>> Far too neat, without any loose ends.

> ahhhhh ok I get you. Thanks, and yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be very
> realistic....but Friends isn't that realistic anyway!

It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.


>> What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?

> I think the voice justifies as 1000 reasons for not liking her! Now
> *she* is screechy!

But Maggie Wheeler has a lovely voice, so Janice's can be changed.


>> It's amazing how many quiz shows ask questions about "Friends", you
>> rarely hear anything about other sitcoms, especially American ones.

> Well how many other American sitcoms have been that successful over here?

None.


>>> Off to watch I love 1994

>> Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!

>> What did they say about "Friends"?

>> Quite a bit actually....about how the rembrants song was really
>> sucsessful....urm they showed various clips from season 1 and season 7
>> with bits from the classic "you kissed my mom" plot. Urm they showed
>> bits from the rembrants video and also a BBC interview (I think) with
>> the three guys around 1996 (MP was thin so I guessed that) I think the
>> interviewer was that woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I can't
>> remember...have you seen it?

That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.


> DS was talking about how they agreed at the start not to get involved
> with one another, MLB claimed that that was now out the window. They
> also had a bit about "The Shag"...Otherwise it was pretty crap
> actually.....apart from Mel and Sue...they rock!

How did they fit in?

Tennant Stuart

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>> I'm not judging them in a moral sense (whether what they're guilty
>> of was right or wrong), only if the law would regard any of their
>> actions as a crime, or at least an arrestable offence. Is no-one
>> in the United States ever arrested on suspicion of something?

> You can be arrested for suspicion of something, but I thought you'd been
> listing crimes, which suggests that they could be convicted for these
> things.

Well, "crimes" was a loose description.


>> Isn't unauthorised cable access regarded as theft in America?

> If you went out and mucked around with the wires to get yourself free
> cable it would be. If the cable company or one of its employees goofed
> and provided access to the channels, I don't think the recipients would
> be liable.

Why isn't watching the TV itself a crime?


>> So there's no Section 12, or if there is it doesn't have a Paragraph 7?

> No section 12.

Ah, that's probably why the writers chose it, like Ross at NYU.


>>> Could be that it would fall under other offenses.

>> Give me something to put in its place, and I'll happily change the list.

> Finding anything in the law codes is convoluted at best. You might be
> interested in poking around at:

> http://guide.lp.findlaw.com/11stategov/ny/laws.html

> and

> http://www.findlaw.com/

I'd rather you & Dh just told me.


>> What were the ages of Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco?

> Fisher was 16, and Buttafuoco was in his 40s.

Oh! I was thinking you were referring to the notorious recent case of
a schoolboy & his teacher.


>> Would you care to hazard a guess at which state (apart from
>> Pennsylvania) is believed by Monica to be the most liberal on this issue?

> Monica would probably assume states in the deep south would be more
> liberal about this (Arkansas? Mississippi?), only because of stereotypes
> northerners have. Which is kind of funny considering CCA is southern
> herself (Alabama).

CCA is but Monica isn't.


>> So why did Ross let Chandler take the blame?

> Fear of his parents' wrath/disapproval, probably.

I still find it hard to believe.

I was hoping you'd just correct some of the terms.


> BTW, what exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral earnings"?
> Arguably, many CEOs do this. . . . ;)

Phoebe at the end of 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry".


>>> I didn't mean that you've probably *compiled* a list, only that one
>>> probably *could* compile one for you as you have for the characters.

>> Oh!! I didn't read it like that, since I'm so pure & innocent.

> Ah, that's not what the poor sap in the iron mask says. ;)

Oh?


> But if she'd paid attention and noticed the wrong bed were being
> delivered, the fake middle name would never have been an issue.

That's fair enough, but I don't want to get bogged down in arguing over
which aspect was the worst for Phoebe, since my thesis is that the whole
experience was so negative for her that if she ever felt that Monica was
at fault she would middle name her with E---- not Fallula.


>> The odds are very heavy that Monica's E is an initial.

> Probably, but it might just stay that way forever (and I wouldn't mind
> because I don't have much interest in middle names, having dropped my
> own).

You dropped your own middle name???


>>> It's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing"


>>> rather than Monica E. Bing.

>> Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.

> As you like to say, I guess we'll have to wait and see, but in the
> meantime, the IMDb has taken the liberty of covering all bases with
> "Monica E. Geller Bing," which I think is the least likely outcome.

Oh, these names change on the IMDb like waves washing along the shore.


>>> Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some Phoebe
>>> time, only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet another
>>> discussion or session.

>> If that's so, then he doesn't deserve her, and should never be seen
>> again.

> Awwww--you're cruel. :(

Maybe so, but if it was me I'd choose Phoebe over Minsk.


>>> Phoebe/David were heartbreaking.

>> Phoebe/David or Phoebe/Joey? It was after David departed that we had
>> the really heartbreaking stuff, which completely took me, for it was
>> wonderful situation comedy whilst not being funny, yet not unfunny.

> The whole thing--Phoebe/David made Phoebe/Joey possible and poignant.
> This makes me hope more than ever that Phoebe and David are ultimately
> reunited for good on the show. I'm sorry, but if the show ends of with
> the main six all paired up with one another), I'll be disappointed. If
> they find a way to make R & R work, fine. But let's see Phoebe/David;
> Joey/Kate (or Joey/someone else). Let's mix things up.

And what about Chandler & Monica?

Paul Hyett

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considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>>> Yes, it happened accidentally, but they deliberately continued to watch,
>>> even refusing to turn off the TV or change channel in case the porn went
>>> away. "No-one touches the remote, and no-one touches the TV, and no-one
>>> touches the air around the TV!" They reacted rather guiltily when Monica
>>> muted the sound, and then tentatively looked behind them to discover with
>>> relief that they still had unauthorised cable access.
>
>> I wish something like that happened to me!
>
>You'd grow bored with it after a few days, like Joey & Chandler did. :)

What I didn't get, was why they thought turning off the TV would affect
it. Surely only changing cable channels would risk losing it?


>
>> Rather like Homer J Simpson.
>
>Homer discovered his middle name is Jay in 1006 "D'oh-in' in the Wind".

But 'J' sounds the same as 'Jay' though! :)

Paul Hyett

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
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>
>Why isn't watching the TV itself a crime?

No, only some of the shows they transmit! :)

I don't remember a lot of these!


>
>> BTW, what exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral earnings"?

I've always thought this was a weird one.

Lots of 'immoral' acts aren't actually *illegal*, so why should earning
money from them be a crime?


>
>>> Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.

BTW, did we ever find out what Ben's surname ended up as?

Paul Hyett

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>> >
>> What happens if you are under a State's AoC, but you were legally
>> married in a different country?
>>
>> I think the law would just have to ignore it in these circumstances.
>
>I think you're right about that one, though the couple could have to go
>through hell proving it.

Shouldn't be too hard - if they didn't already have it with them, they
could easily get their marriage certificate faxed.


>> >
>> There's also the speculation that Ben is clairvoyant, and was actually
>> saying Monica *Bing* in TOW the Giant Poking Device. :)
>
>Hee hee. Maybe. :)

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>In article <77c0196c.01091...@posting.google.com>,
>Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
>> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:<na.4780044aba...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
>>>>> 711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
>>>>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
>>>>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>>>>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.
>
>>>> C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...
>
>>> They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.
>
>> I'm still okay with Tag.
>
>You are very kind-hearted.


Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with him.

>>>> However, MP still seemed a bit off.
>
>>> I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.
>
>> I think I am...
>
>Okay.


Best just to agree... lol

>>>> It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might
>>>> not have worked so well.
>
>>> Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first time
>>> it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.
>
>> She did, didn't she?
>
>Yep, that's why it's hard to see that Perry was off form.


I noticed but I'm picky.

>>>>> The name "Braverman" seemed very familiar, but it turns out to belong
>>>>> to a colleague of Drake Ramoray in 211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding". And
>>>>> it seemed at first that Mrs.Braverman had replaced Mr.Heckles, but in
>>>>> fact she lives on the ground floor, just off the lobby.
>
>>>> Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?
>
>>> No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came begging
>>> for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex really loud.
>
>> Oh, I knew there was something. I forgot about that. Maybe the loud
>> sex lady IS Mrs Chatracus?
>
>I can't deny that explicitly, but she sounds to me like she is a little
>old lady in 415 "TOW All the Rugby".


Maybe it's her daughter or something?

>>>>> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
>>>>> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".
>
>>>> Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.
>
>>> Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.
>
>> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!
>
>Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.


Bad Friends! Bad!

>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...
>
>> When? I don't remember.
>
>Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".


Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!

>>> I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they prepare
>>> wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.
>
>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>> there ever was.
>
>Ooh, lovely! :)


It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........

>>> I wish I could have been at the filming of S8-03 on August 24th, to see
>>> & enjoy the original episode in happy innocence.
>
>> Me too :(
>
>Yep. Sigh.


Oh well.

>>> You *are* a true fan! :)
>
>> My handbag is like Phoebe's. I have a cordless hair curler in there in
>> case of emergencies. Before you laugh, let me tell you that it has
>> been extremely useful on a couple of occasions (for when your hair
>> does that Woo-hoo! thing).
>
>My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.


My friend Sandy does that! She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!

>>> It's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely different once you
>>> hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...
>
>> Probably. "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.
>
>Lol, yes.


I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.

>>>>> Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
>>>>> met Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become
>>>>> Monica's best friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that
>>>>> they were mainly schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie,
>>>>> and Rachel had Mindy?
>
>>>> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
>>>> mean, I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that
>>>> we hear, it doesn't make sense.
>
>>> Could it be that big-nosed Rachel felt better about herself by having
>>> fat Monica standing next to her? Plus we know that Monica knew how to
>>> make Rachel laugh. And maybe the other girls resented Rachel's wealth.
>
>> Maybe they were best friends when they were younger - maybe about age
>> 9 - 12, then Rachel joined the popular group and Monica started taking
>> time off school?
>
>I don't think so - without assembling all the references, that's not the
>impression I get from the show.


No, me either.

>>>>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>>>>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>>>>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>>>>> leanings towards Ross.
>
>>>> Well, my. Who would have thought?
>
>>> Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?
>
>> Gay Monica :)
>
>Hmmm... wait & see. :)


Alrighty-roo.

>>>>> Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
>>>>> which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
>>>>> However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
>>>>> him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
>>>>> grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
>
>>>> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
>>>> that.
>
>>> Oh! Good point, sweetie. No-one's thought of that before.
>
>>> The IMDb has 264 actors and 6 actresses named Glenn, so it does tend
>>> to be a boy's name, but even so as you say it could be a girl's name.
>
>>> So with the possibilities of a baby or a disabled guy or a girl it
>>> shows that we shouldn't assume that there was anything gay referred
>>> to here - not that there would be anything wrong if there was.
>
>> There's always a way around everything. But the writers clearly meant
>> it as a gay reference.
>
>It would seem that way, especially since Monica shushes Chandler.


Poor Chandler - it could have been quite innocent.

>>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
>> them?
>
>>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
>
>>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...
>
>> In disguise?!
>
>Yes!


In the Princess Leia costume?

>>>>> Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
>>>>> totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
>>>>> did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
>
>>>> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
>>>> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
>>>> even Richard didn't recognise her at first.
>
>>> Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.
>
>> I'm very wise - like Phoebe!
>
>What what what???
>
>You've changed horses!


I know! It's just that in this episode she said, "Yeah, I’m very wise. I
know."

>>>>> The nearest match is Stu Vincent in 321 "TOW a Chick. And a Duck".
>>>>> Although he offered Monica a necklace (which she rejected) in the
>>>>> seventh grade, he can't be Frannie's new husband since he was the
>>>>> Health teacher!
>
>>>> At least, let's hope not!
>
>>> Yes, let's!
>
>> Otherwise that's just scary... did you watch Lolita last night??
>
>No.
>
>The book is brilliant literature though, this is how it begins...
>
>Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul.
>
>Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps
>down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta.
>
>She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock.
>She was Lola in slacks.
>She was Dolly at school.
>She was Dolores on the dotted line.
>
>But in my arms she was always Lolita.


The remake of the movie is closer to the book than the Kubrick version. I
read the book last year in the library and I want to get my own copy :)

>>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
>>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!
>
>>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?
>
>> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
>> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
>> why she wasn't invited.
>
>So why didn't he tell her?


Because it would have messed up the storyline. (Same old, same old!)

>>>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
>>>>> Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
>>>>> forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
>>>> Oh, those critics...
>
>>> Sigh. Yes.
>
>> Never mind.
>
>:)


They'll never beat the true fans!

>>>>> It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
>>>>> get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
>>>>> she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
>
>>>> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.
>
>>> It does a bit, but it also sounds like something else...
>
>> Okay...?
>
>I think we had best leave it at that. :)


Good idea.

>>>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>>>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>>>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>>>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
>>>> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
>>>> Tennant?
>
>>> I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".
>
>> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
>> middle name. Want me to dig it out?
>
>Yes please.


Okay I'll find it tonight.

>>>>> International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
>>>>> David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
>
>>>> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her
>>>> apartment, but it was before she moved back in and the lines were
>>>> still down - so he went straight to her hang-out, Central Perk,
>>>> eagerly awaiting her...
>
>>> Yes, but she moved back in last week, didn't she?
>
>> Shh. Don't spoil my plot line.
>
>LOL
>
>
>> David tried to call Phoebe from Minsk before he left, to tell her that
>> he was returning. This was before she moved in, so when he dialled it
>> said "This number is not recognised" or something. So when he got to NY
>> he went straight to Central Perk, to wait for his love. Sigh...
>
>So romantic...


Yeah, it really is...

>>>>> We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
>>>>> this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
>>>>> not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
>>>>> Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
>
>>>> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
>>>> sometimes. You don't have to go commando all the time.
>
>>> Oh, that's a relief to know. :)
>
>> I get the feeling that you knew that already.
>
>Confirmation is always welcome.


I concur.

>>>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>>>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>>>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>>>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.
>
>>>> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
>
>>> What would happen if she did find out?
>
>> She'd be upset. And for a good reason.
>
>They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.


Yes, they should have!

>>>> It would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
>>>> biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.
>
>>> Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
>>> movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?
>
>> I have most of her movies! Heehee! Well of course she'd be causing
>> havoc - she could probably find something to be angry at Ross for.
>> Maybe he brought his banana-and-mealworm cake along with him and it
>> made her hair smell funny? She's going to get revenge!
>
>Lol, and what would she do to Joey?


Be pissed because he's the only one who hasn't caused her horrible harm in
some way, and rather than date her he chose to date her sister!

>>>> And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned
>>>> below - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.
>
>>> Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?
>
>> No I haven't. :(
>
>It's not as bad a movie as people say, though not good either,
>but IMHO Dina Meyer is very good in it.


I'll see if I can find it next time I go to the video shop.

>>>> How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!
>
>>> Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
>>> around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
>>> would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?
>
>> Yep, Sophie's nice. It would be really funny if you got Jasmine thingy
>> and Megan Mullally and Jennifer Tilly and Joey Lauren Adams all in the
>> same room.
>
>Why Jennifer Tilly, and not Christine Baranski?


Because Christine Baranski doesn't have one of those voices.

>>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
>>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...
>
>>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
>>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.
>
>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
>
>Exactly.


Sorry!

>>>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
>>>> And why not? You have to love her!
>
>>> Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)
>
>> Oh, totally. Or Pete!
>
>No, Pete doesn't deserve to get lucky, he's got money, but Richard
>gave his brownie point meter a good spin in the last finale.


Yeah, but maybe Janice deserves to get lucky with a millionaire! She'd have
so much fun at the Look How Much Money We've Got themed wedding, and she
could sing both Careless Whisper and Lady In Red, going on to Money Money
Money as an encore!


Owen Shiers

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> >> >
> >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> >> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
> >>
> >> >A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?
> >>
> >>
> >> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
> >> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
> >
> >It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she
> probably
> >has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".
>
>
> How do we know she doesn't have a fork in there too? Plus if Joey has one
> they can share. Rachel ate some cheesecake from Chandler's fork in this
ep.

A fork isn't as flat as a knife and isn't as easy to carry. Also it would be
less handy than a knife in an attack.


>
> >> >Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> >> >boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet
proud
> >> >enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated
by
> >> >Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> >> >by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion
game,
> >> >yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo
point;
> >> >and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
> >>
> >>
> >> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
> >> same?
> >
> >I'm sure you're not that bad! For a start, did your Dad buy you a sailing
> >boat when your pony was sick?
>
>
> No, he bought me a kitten.

Whatever works!


>
> >> >Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
> met
> >> >Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's
best
> >> >friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
> >> >schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had
Mindy?
> >>
> >>
> >> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
> >mean,
> >> I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that we
hear,
> >it
> >> doesn't make sense.
> >
> >I think there may have been a bit of an error here...but you can have
more
> >than 1 best friend!
>
>
> You can have several close friends, but generally when you're that age you
> have one *best* friend.

Yeah I see what you mean....I don't think they can have thought much about
it though when writing it.
>

>
> >> >Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> >> >which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> >> >However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> >> >him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> >> >grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
> >>
> >>
> >> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
> >that.
> >
> >I'm sure it was a boy because it makes the joke even more strange funny.
>
>
> Well, that's definitely what the writers were going for. I'm just
exploring
> possibilities...

I don't think I want to go very far down that road!


>
> >> >Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
them?
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
> >
> >Maybe the writers forgot.
>
>
> Maybe :)

Just exploring the possibilities ;)


>
> >> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
> >> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
> >> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
> >> >
> >> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> >> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> >> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
> >>
> >>
> >> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
> >> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
even
> >> Richard didn't recognise her at first.
> >
> >Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long time.....
>
>
> Nor has Aunt Millie.

Do we know that for certain?
>

>
> >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was
she?
> >>
> >>
> >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> >
> >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
>
>
> I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was peeved
> (such a cool word!)

I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear word and
is socially acceptable-ish.


>
> >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into
her
> >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting
Stuart?
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> >
> >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on ruining
> >Frannie's day.
>
>
> She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't know
that
> her brother got an invitation.

I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!


>
> >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh, those critics...
> >
> >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
>
>
> Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".

What is that!?


>
> >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> >>
> >>
> >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.
> >
> >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
>
>
> Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".

I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she just
randomly picked it.


>
> >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> >> Tennant?
> >>
> >Elsie Elsie!!
>
>
> I quite like that!

It's the only funny name beginning with E!


>
> >> >David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
> >> >like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
> >> >take far longer than originally expected?
> >> >
> >> >Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
> >> >it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
> >> >once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
> >> >Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
> >> >was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".
> >> >
> >> >International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> >> >David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
> >but
> >> it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so he
> went
> >> straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...
> >
> >He must have known about Monica's apartment though?
>
>
> Shh! Quit spoiling my plot! I'm making an epic love story here, can't you
> see? :)

Ok....sorry....please continue!


>
> >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
> >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
> >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
sometimes.
> >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> >
> >I wouldn't want to all the time!
>
>
> Especially not in winter.

Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!


>
> >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> >>
> >>
> >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> >>
> >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
>
>
> She'd more likely just be upset.
>

And screechy!!

> >> >If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> >> >Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
> >> >
> >> >What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
> >biased
> >> because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan. And it
> >would
> >> be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below - because
Joey
> >> really doesn't have anybody. How about Jasmine? For some reason, I
really
> >> like her!
> >
> >What the back of her head?
>
>
> Umm, let's see. When Ross was discovering the trail from Chloe to Rachel,
> she told him he did a "bad thing", she got Phoebe's brother Frank into an
> armlock when he touched her up and she described Paolo as "yum". She just
> has the coolest voice!

She probably smokes a lot, that's how you generally get those kina voices.


>
> >> > ---o0o---
> >> >
> >> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross &
Phoebe
> >> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the
lady
> >> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these
compete
> >> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> his
> >> personality to shreds with Joey...
> >
> >I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.
>
>
> I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)

Really?


>
> >> >Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> >> >determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> >> >one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> >> >of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
> >> >
> >> >As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
> >> >
> >> >As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
> >> >
> >> >As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
> >> >
> >> >As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
> >> >
> >> >As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
> >>
> >>
> >> And why not? You have to love her!
> >
> >Do I have to?
>
>
> Yeah... it's like a rule - if you want to be a Friends fan, you have to do
> the special Janice Initiation Test. They lock you in a room with the mix
> tape and make you listen to it on repeat for four hours.

Ok that's two nightmares in one reply....are you trying to kill me?! I hate
Barbera Streisand!

Owen
>
>


Owen Shiers

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>
> >> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
> >> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?
>
> > Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
> > something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.

Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.


>
>
> > Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some sort
of
> > database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so much time
> > trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've forgotten.
>
> You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
> into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.

That's what I guessed you did....then do you search the whole text file?


>
>
> > Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to the
> > girl who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this season and
> > how they kinda lost is last season.
>
> I reckon that S6 was better overall than S1, S3, S4 or S5.

Really? U mean consistency-wise?


>
>
> >>>> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of friends
> >>>> eating food off the hallway floor...
>
> >>> Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the floor....he
> >>> was pissed though...
>
> >> It all depends on how clean the floor is. ;)
>
> > Yes but if you don't eat what has touched the floor it doesn't matter!
>
> That's what Rachel was doing.

Typical :)


>
>
> >>>>> The cheesecake must have been *that* good!
>
> >>>> It sure was!
>
> >>> I gotta say, on of my friends seems fascinated with
> >>> cheesecake....maybe the very idea is silly....I know it tastes nice
> >>> and I think the food in itself brings a bemused smile to my face.
>
> >> Oh I know, the whole story makes me so hungry!
>
> > Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....
>
> Look them up on the internet.

Will do ;)


>
>
> >>>> most so-called errors turn out to be nothing of the kind. Writers do
> >>>> not have to watch past episodes to check for continuity, they have
> >>>> researchers to do that for them; plus files are kept on all the major
> >>>> characters, (about 20 of them); then of course the cast themselves
> >>>> know their own characters, and won't be afraid to speak up.
>
> >>> How can they explain such errors as characters ages then?
>
> >> Apart from Joey's, the ages hang together quite well actually. But to
> >> see this, you have to work out their ages to the nearest month, else
> >> you'll get caught out. Do you not have a copy of my spreadsheet?
>
> > No I don't think so....explain please!
>
> I'll post it to you.

Cheers, got it today. I have seen 714, I downloaded it, I'm frantically
downloading 712 so I can discuss your review!
>
>

>
>
> >> What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?
>
> > Hang on that's a bit further from Shier but still i like the "great"
> > part!
>
> He's done some brilliant work.

Wow, has he been in anything I've heard of?


>
>
> >>>>>> Some claim that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was she?
>
> >>>>> Yes....Very!
>
> >>>> You reckon?
>
> >>> Yeah I think she was entitled to it....I like screechy Monica anyway.
>
> >> The prime example of this came in 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry", where
> >> Monica warmly assured Chandler it's alright not to cry, then spoke of
> >> her own death, and when he failed to respond with tears, she jumped
> >> up & screeched at him. Did you like her then?
>
> > Oh no...she's funny like that but not likeable....
>
> Well, *that* is screechy.

Yes I suppose "I JUST WROTE YOU A LETTER FROM THE BEYOND!" is!


>
>
> > I especially like her and Ross's " I KNOW!"
>
> Me too. And Phoebe's "Oh no".

He he :)


>
>
> > Screechy reminds me of owls!
>
> This is true. :)

lol, I get loads where I live!


>
>
> >>>>>> We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
> >>>>>> character Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers
> >>>>>> have not forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
>
> >>>>> But surely he doesn't have to work to be in a coma?!
>
> >>>> We saw in 704 "TOW Rachel's Assistant" that he has to lie in bed with
> >>>> his face covered in bandages. Hard work, but someone's gotta do it!
>
> >>> Lol, wouldn't extras do that usually?
>
> >> I dunno, it might be a contractual or a union thing.
>
> > Must be a pretty boring job though ;)
>
> Wait & see...

Meaning?!


>
>
> >>>> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about
> >>>> this, but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice
> >>>> to know...
>
> >>> U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!
>
> >> Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.
>
> > Ahhh the wonders of Microsoft calculator!
>
> Eek no, I did it in my head.

Wow, I'm impressed, you must have been listening in Maths lessons!


>
>
> >>>> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have
> >>>> been snapped up in the intervening six years.
>
> >>> She certainly should have been....
>
> >> Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?
>
> >> PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.
>
> >> MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
> >> stop being able to put both legs over your head.
>
> >> PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.
>
> >> MONICA: How are you still single?!
>
> > I'm surprised that she hasn't had at least one "long" relationship....
> > Gary was about 2-3 months wasn't he?
>
> No, much less than that - airdates 4th March to 22nd April 1999.

Silly really, apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to have
very short relationships


>
>
> >> We pay too much attention to those little clips of film. If you look at
> >> the outside view of the apartment block (it's the SE corner of Bedford
> >> & Grove in Greenwich Village) you will note that the balconies are
> >> different, and the red store on the ground floor is rather dissimilar
> >> from Central Perk.
>
> > Lol I've certainly noticed that....I gave Helena directions there
> > when she went to New York and she's taken some photos for me.
>
> > When everntually I get them we'll be able to see in further detail
> > hopefully. Have you ever been to NY?
>
> Not yet, and now it's too late for one big chunk of it.

Yes...I hope they rebuild it...they were such amazing buildings...


>
>
> >>>>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..
>
> >>>>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"
>
> >>>> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.
>
> >>> Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me,
> >>> and my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!
>
> >> Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...
>
> > I suppose, Picture Perfect isn't exactly my Mum's cup of tea
>
> No, it was a dreadful picture, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".

I thought that was just as bad?!


>
>
> >>>>> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe.
> >>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.
>
> >>>> It does seem very cut & dried.
>
> >>> Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that mean?
>
> >> Far too neat, without any loose ends.
>
> > ahhhhh ok I get you. Thanks, and yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be
very
> > realistic....but Friends isn't that realistic anyway!
>
> It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.
>

Well doesn't being too neat does make it unrealistic?


>
> >> What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?
>
> > I think the voice justifies as 1000 reasons for not liking her! Now
> > *she* is screechy!
>
> But Maggie Wheeler has a lovely voice, so Janice's can be changed.

I just find her very annoying and irriable...as does Joey! I must say her
singing on the mixed tape was very sweet and funny.


>
>
> >> It's amazing how many quiz shows ask questions about "Friends", you
> >> rarely hear anything about other sitcoms, especially American ones.
>
> > Well how many other American sitcoms have been that successful over
here?
>
> None.
>

Probably why then!


>
> >>> Off to watch I love 1994
>
> >> Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!
>
> >> What did they say about "Friends"?
>
> >> Quite a bit actually....about how the rembrants song was really
> >> sucsessful....urm they showed various clips from season 1 and season 7
> >> with bits from the classic "you kissed my mom" plot. Urm they showed
> >> bits from the rembrants video and also a BBC interview (I think) with
> >> the three guys around 1996 (MP was thin so I guessed that) I think the
> >> interviewer was that woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I can't
> >> remember...have you seen it?
>
> That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
> which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.

Why did MP look so thin then? Was it me? Did you see the interview?


>
>
> > DS was talking about how they agreed at the start not to get involved
> > with one another, MLB claimed that that was now out the window. They
> > also had a bit about "The Shag"...Otherwise it was pretty crap
> > actually.....apart from Mel and Sue...they rock!
>
> How did they fit in?
>
>

> In what sense? (sorry, I'm stupid!)

Owen


Tennant Stuart

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In article <0DKXWTFg...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

> What I didn't get, was why they thought turning off the TV would affect


> it. Surely only changing cable channels would risk losing it?

I don't know, the whole thing you see in US sitcoms seems most peculiar,
as though their technology prevents them from seeing the channel, so if
anything should go wrong it's in the clear. In Britain the pictures are
scrambled, so the technology enables us to see the channel, which means
that if anything goes wrong we only have white noise.


>>> Rather like Homer J Simpson.

>> Homer discovered his middle name is Jay in 1006 "D'oh-in' in the Wind".

> But 'J' sounds the same as 'Jay' though!

It does, but that still means it's Homer J. Simpson. :)

Tennant Stuart

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In article <IjGYeEFSYap7Ew$0...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>> Why isn't watching the TV itself a crime?

> No, only some of the shows they transmit! :)

You said you were a big fan of porn. :)


>>>> Here's the list without frills or duplication... <SNIP>

> I don't remember a lot of these!

That's because I stripped off the frills. Here's the current list...

Chandler - stealing cheesecake from a neighbour; accomplice liability at


Caesar's Palace; indecent exposure at Marcel's Restaurant;
unlawful confinement at Bloomingdale's; child endangerment on

NYC Transport; unauthorised cable access; jaywalking on the
George Washington bridge; and gross lewdness in a storage
room at Central Perk.

Joey - stole a small fridge & a neighbour's pizza; assault & battery of
a person on TV; controlling a boat under the influence of alcohol;
child endangerment on NYC Transport; and unauthorised cable access.

Monica - larceny at Caesar's Palace; accomplice liability in credit card
fraud, and medical insurance fraud; assault on Janine LeCroix;
breaking & entering Dr.Burke's; defying the Rent Stabilization
Act of 1968; and gross lewdness in a Central Perk storage room.

Phoebe - assault with a deadly weapon; resisting arrest; breaking &
entering at Ms.Abbott's; carrying a concealed weapon; fraud,
embezzlement, and living off immoral earnings; impersonating

a police officer; suspicion of prostitution; and open & gross
lewdness in a public park.

Rachel - stole a relic from the museum & cheesecake from a neighbour;
medical insurance fraud; grievous bodily harm; and open &
gross lewdness at the Museum of Natural History.

Ross - possession of narcotics with intent to trade; offering alcoholic
liquor to a minor; and open & gross lewdness on the It's A Small
World ride, the NYU library, and the Museum of Natural History.


>>> What exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral earnings"?

> I've always thought this was a weird one. Lots of 'immoral' acts aren't
> actually *illegal*, so why should earning money from them be a crime?

Check out the end of 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry".


>>>> Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.

> BTW, did we ever find out what Ben's surname ended up as?

We don't know if it's Ben Geller, Ben Willick, Ben Geller-Willick,
Ben Willick-Geller, Ben Bunch-Willick, or Ben Willick-Bunch.

Then there is Ben Geller-Willick-Bunch & Ben Bunch-Willick-Geller, and
just possibly Ben Willick-Bunch-Geller & Ben Geller-Bunch-Willick.

But at least we can be sure it isn't Ben Bunch, Ben Geller-Bunch, Ben
Bunch-Geller, Ben Bunch-Geller-Willick, or Ben Willick-Geller-Bunch.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010917115354...@mb-cv.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

> A bunch of people wrote:

>>>>>> Well, as long as you're prepared should you find a couple of
>>>>>> friends eating food off the hallway floor...

>>>>> Strangely enough I did find a friend eating Jelly off the
>>>>> floor....he was pissed though...

>>>> It all depends on how clean the floor is. ;)

>>> Yes but if you don't eat what has touched the floor it doesn't matter!

>> That's what Rachel was doing.

> Also. It was Monica's floor. I assume her floor would always be clean
> enough to eat off.. ;)

It was the hallway, so it wasn't Monica's floor, but basically you are
right since we can assume that she would clean it. But what I want to
know is, why doesn't Monica clean Joey's apartment for him?


> This is me!

Hi you! :)


> What kind of scary ass clowns came to your birthday parties?

Yes, it should have been ducks are tails, because ducks have tails.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9o54gl$rds$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>>>>>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when


>>>>>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
>>>>>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.

>>>>> C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...

>>>> They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.

>>> I'm still okay with Tag.

>> You are very kind-hearted.

> Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with him.

Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)


>>>>> However, MP still seemed a bit off.

>>>> I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.

>>> I think I am...

>> Okay.

> Best just to agree... lol

You should know by now that I rarely do that, and I'll tell you now that
when I do just agree it's not a compliment. But OTOH I am always open to
reasonable persuasion, and not afraid to admit it when I'm wrong.


>>>>> It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might
>>>>> not have worked so well.

>>>> Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first
>>>> time it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.

>>> She did, didn't she?

>> Yep, that's why it's hard to see that Perry was off form.

> I noticed but I'm picky.

Good for you sweetie, I rely on your inestimable judgement.

And that of a few others in this ng, he added hastily. :)


>>>>> Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?

>>>> No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came
>>>> begging for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex
>>>> really loud.

>>> Oh, I knew there was something. I forgot about that. Maybe the loud
>>> sex lady IS Mrs Chatracus?

>> I can't deny that explicitly, but she sounds to me like she is a little
>> old lady in 415 "TOW All the Rugby".

> Maybe it's her daughter or something?

Lol yes, I like that, hot-to-trot & loud-with-it Miss Chatracus!


>>>>>> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
>>>>>> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".

>>>>> Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.

>>>> Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.

>>> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!

>> Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.

> Bad Friends! Bad!

Bad bad bad bad bad.


>>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...

>>> When? I don't remember.

>> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".

> Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!

Tolja!


>>>> I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they prepare
>>>> wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.

>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>>> there ever was.

>> Ooh, lovely! :)

> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........

Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................


>> Yep. Sigh.

> Oh well.

Exactly, dear.


>>>> You *are* a true fan! :)

>>> My handbag is like Phoebe's. I have a cordless hair curler in there in
>>> case of emergencies. Before you laugh, let me tell you that it has
>>> been extremely useful on a couple of occasions (for when your hair
>>> does that Woo-hoo! thing).

>> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.

> My friend Sandy does that!
> She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!

ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!


>>>> It's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely different once
>>>> you hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...

>>> Probably. "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.

>> Lol, yes.

> I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.

Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...


>>> Maybe they were best friends when they were younger - maybe about age
>>> 9 - 12, then Rachel joined the popular group and Monica started taking
>>> time off school?

>> I don't think so - without assembling all the references, that's not the
>> impression I get from the show.

> No, me either.

Okay. :)


>>>>>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
>>>>>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
>>>>>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
>>>>>> leanings towards Ross.

>>>>> Well, my. Who would have thought?

>>>> Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?

>>> Gay Monica :)

>> Hmmm... wait & see. :)

> Alrighty-roo.

Hehe. :)


>> It would seem that way, especially since Monica shushes Chandler.

> Poor Chandler - it could have been quite innocent.

It's okay, she knows how it sounds, and she's looking after him.


>>>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
>>>>>> them?

>>>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

>>>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...

>>> In disguise?!

>> Yes!

> In the Princess Leia costume?

Lol! No, but you're making me think about it...


>>>> Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.

>>> I'm very wise - like Phoebe!

>> What what what???

>> You've changed horses!

> I know! It's just that in this episode she said, "Yeah, I'm very
> wise. I know."

OIC, yes. Phoebe is the only one who's said anything like that.


> The remake of the movie is closer to the book than the Kubrick version. I
> read the book last year in the library and I want to get my own copy :)

And does the newer movie come anywhere near capturing the book?


>>>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
>>>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!

>>>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?

>>> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
>>> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
>>> why she wasn't invited.

>> So why didn't he tell her?

> Because it would have messed up the storyline. (Same old, same old!)

Yes, I'm afraid you're right, it was weak writing.


>>>>> Oh, those critics...

>>>> Sigh. Yes.

>>> Never mind.

>> :)

> They'll never beat the true fans!

All hands to the barricades!


>>>>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
>>>>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
>>>>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
>>>>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!

>>>>> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
>>>>> Tennant?

>>>> I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".

>>> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
>>> middle name. Want me to dig it out?

>> Yes please.

> Okay I'll find it tonight.

And?


>>> David tried to call Phoebe from Minsk before he left, to tell her that
>>> he was returning. This was before she moved in, so when he dialled it
>>> said "This number is not recognised" or something. So when he got to NY
>>> he went straight to Central Perk, to wait for his love. Sigh...

>> So romantic...

> Yeah, it really is...

Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)


>>>>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
>>>>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
>>>>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
>>>>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.

>>>>> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!

>>>> What would happen if she did find out?

>>> She'd be upset. And for a good reason.

>> They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.

> Yes, they should have!

And as long as they don't send the chicken back because it's too dry!


>>>>> It would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
>>>>> biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.

>>>> Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
>>>> movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?

>>> I have most of her movies! Heehee! Well of course she'd be causing
>>> havoc - she could probably find something to be angry at Ross for.
>>> Maybe he brought his banana-and-mealworm cake along with him and it
>>> made her hair smell funny? She's going to get revenge!

>> Lol, and what would she do to Joey?

> Be pissed because he's the only one who hasn't caused her horrible harm in
> some way, and rather than date her he chose to date her sister!

Yeah, but that was Julia's sister, not Susie's sister.


>>>>> And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned
>>>>> below - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.

>>>> Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?

>>> No I haven't. :(

>> It's not as bad a movie as people say, though not good either,
>> but IMHO Dina Meyer is very good in it.

> I'll see if I can find it next time I go to the video shop.

It's a good one to watch if you're a bit pushed for time, since all the
best bits are in the first half-hour, DinaMeyerwise.


>>>>> How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!

>>>> Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
>>>> around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
>>>> would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?

>>> Yep, Sophie's nice. It would be really funny if you got Jasmine thingy
>>> and Megan Mullally and Jennifer Tilly and Joey Lauren Adams all in the
>>> same room.

>> Why Jennifer Tilly, and not Christine Baranski?

> Because Christine Baranski doesn't have one of those voices.

Oh! I thought you were doing something else!

Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you mean
about their voices, except that none of the others are in the same league
as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing would be nice...


>>>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
>>>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...

>>>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
>>>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.

>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

>> Exactly.

> Sorry!

Why "sorry"? I thought you were agreeing with me?


>>>>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!

>>>>> And why not? You have to love her!

>>>> Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)

>>> Oh, totally. Or Pete!

>> No, Pete doesn't deserve to get lucky, he's got money, but Richard
>> gave his brownie point meter a good spin in the last finale.

> Yeah, but maybe Janice deserves to get lucky with a millionaire! She'd
> have so much fun at the Look How Much Money We've Got themed wedding,
> and she could sing both Careless Whisper and Lady In Red, going on to
> Money Money Money as an encore!

ROTFL! In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <LYrp7.28369$Pm5.6...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?

>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
>>> something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.

>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.

> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.

It doesn't sound like a Sky show.


>>> Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some sort
>>> of database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so much
>>> time trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've forgotten.

>> You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
>> into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.

> That's what I guessed you did....then do you search the whole text file?

That's how I started.


>>> Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to the
>>> girl who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this season
>>> and how they kinda lost is last season.

>> I reckon that S6 was better overall than S1, S3, S4 or S5.

> Really? U mean consistency-wise?

I rated each episode as a hit or a miss, and the seasons ended like this...

S-1 58%
S-2 79%
S-3 60%
S-4 58%
S-5 54%
S-6 64%
S-7 67%


>>> Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....

>> Look them up on the internet.

> Will do ;)

And?


>>>> What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?

>>> Hang on that's a bit further from Shier but still i like the "great"
>>> part!

>> He's done some brilliant work.

> Wow, has he been in anything I've heard of?


1979 Yanks (1979) [G.I. at Cinema]
1980 Superman II (1980) [Bell Boy]
1981 The History Man (1981) (TV) [Howard Kirk]
1981 Mark Gertler: Fragments of a Biography (1981)
1985 Shadey (1985) [Oliver Shadey]
1989 Erik the Viking (1989) [Loki]
1990 The Land of Dreams (1990) (TV) [David Samuels]
1993 Genghis Cohn (1993) [Genghis Cohn]
1995 The Young Poisoner's Handbook (1995) [Dr. Ernest Zeigler]
1996 Indian Summer (1996) [Jack]
1996 The Moonstone (1996) (TV) [Sergeant Cuff]
1996 The Wind in the Willows (1996/I) [Chief Weasel]
1997 Mrs. Brown (1997) [Benjamin Disraeli]
1998 Shakespeare in Love (1998) [Dr. Moth]
1999 Hornblower: The Frogs and the Lobsters (1999) [Moncoutant]
2000 The Miracle Maker (2000) (TV) [Ben Azra] (voice)


>> Well, *that* is screechy.

> Yes I suppose "I JUST WROTE YOU A LETTER FROM THE BEYOND!" is!

Yeah, and "NO YOU ROBOT"

>>> Screechy reminds me of owls!

>> This is true. :)

> lol, I get loads where I live!

Barns & Tawnies?


>> Wait & see...

> Meaning?!

Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.

>>>>>> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about
>>>>>> this, but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice
>>>>>> to know...

>>>>> U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!

>>>> Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.

>>> Ahhh the wonders of Microsoft calculator!

>> Eek no, I did it in my head.

> Wow, I'm impressed, you must have been listening in Maths lessons!

Maths is *very* easy, and neat fun.


>>>>>> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have
>>>>>> been snapped up in the intervening six years.

>>>>> She certainly should have been....

>>>> Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?

>>>> PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.

>>>> MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
>>>> stop being able to put both legs over your head.

>>>> PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.

>>>> MONICA: How are you still single?!

>>> I'm surprised that she hasn't had at least one "long" relationship....
>>> Gary was about 2-3 months wasn't he?

>> No, much less than that - airdates 4th March to 22nd April 1999.

> Silly really, apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
> have very short relationships

Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.


>>>> We pay too much attention to those little clips of film. If you look
>>>> at the outside view of the apartment block (it's the SE corner of
>>>> Bedford & Grove in Greenwich Village) you will note that the
>>>> balconies are different, and the red store on the ground floor is
>>>> rather dissimilar from Central Perk.

>>> Lol I've certainly noticed that....I gave Helena directions there
>>> when she went to New York and she's taken some photos for me.

>>> When everntually I get them we'll be able to see in further detail
>>> hopefully. Have you ever been to NY?

>> Not yet, and now it's too late for one big chunk of it.

> Yes...I hope they rebuild it...they were such amazing buildings...

They could do 3 medium sized building, and one tall building, which
would be the second from the left in a line of four...


>>>>>>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..

>>>>>>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"

>>>>>> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.

>>>>> Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me,
>>>>> and my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!

>>>> Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...

>>> I suppose, Picture Perfect isn't exactly my Mum's cup of tea

>> No, it was a dreadful picture, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".

> I thought that was just as bad?!

It's nothing compared with "Picture Perfect"!


>>>>>>> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe.
>>>>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.

>>>>>> It does seem very cut & dried.

>>>>> Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that
> mean?

>>>> Far too neat, without any loose ends.

>>> ahhhhh ok I get you. Thanks, and yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be
>>> very realistic....but Friends isn't that realistic anyway!

>> It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.

> Well doesn't being too neat does make it unrealistic?

No, because it's unrealistic anyway.


>>>> What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?

>>> I think the voice justifies as 1000 reasons for not liking her! Now
>>> *she* is screechy!

>> But Maggie Wheeler has a lovely voice, so Janice's can be changed.

> I just find her very annoying and irriable...as does Joey! I must say her
> singing on the mixed tape was very sweet and funny.

So how would you feel if she had a nice voice?


>>>>> Off to watch I love 1994

>>>> Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!

>>>> What did they say about "Friends"?

>>>> Quite a bit actually....about how the rembrants song was really
>>>> sucsessful....urm they showed various clips from season 1 and season7
>>>> with bits from the classic "you kissed my mom" plot. Urm they showed
>>>> bits from the rembrants video and also a BBC interview (I think) with
>>>> the three guys around 1996 (MP was thin so I guessed that) I think
>>>> the interviewer was that woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I
>>>> can't remember...have you seen it?

>> That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
>> which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.

> Why did MP look so thin then? Was it me? Did you see the interview?

I've seen the interview, but I'm not sure about when it was recorded.


>>> DS was talking about how they agreed at the start not to get involved
>>> with one another, MLB claimed that that was now out the window. They
>>> also had a bit about "The Shag"...Otherwise it was pretty crap
>>> actually.....apart from Mel and Sue...they rock!

>> How did they fit in?
>
>> In what sense? (sorry, I'm stupid!)

Did Mel & Sue talk about "Friends", or something else?

Sean Black

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In article <na.0fbdfb4abb...@argonet.co.uk>, Tennant Stuart
<ten...@argonet.co.uk> writes

>In article <LYrp7.28369$Pm5.6...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
>Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
>>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?
>
>>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
>>>> something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
>>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.
>
>> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.
>
>It doesn't sound like a Sky show.
>
I can't see it listed on Digiguide anywhere at the moment.
--
Sean Black

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.a4af794abb...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9o54gl$rds$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>
> >>>>>> At last, a Chandler & Rachel story, the first since Season 4 (when
> >>>>>> he procured dates for her in 410 "TOW the Girl from Poughkeepsie"),
> >>>>>> even though we've had every other possible pairing since then.
>
> >>>>> C&R have very nice chemistry IMO...
>
> >>>> They do, in fact she's great with all three boys - but not Tag.
>
> >>> I'm still okay with Tag.
>
> >> You are very kind-hearted.
>
> > Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with him.
>
> Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)

Lol, you're going to wear me down aren't you?

> >>>>> However, MP still seemed a bit off.
>
> >>>> I didn't notice at the time sweetie, but I think you could be right.
>
> >>> I think I am...
>
> >> Okay.
>
> > Best just to agree... lol
>
> You should know by now that I rarely do that, and I'll tell you now that
> when I do just agree it's not a compliment. But OTOH I am always open to
> reasonable persuasion, and not afraid to admit it when I'm wrong.

Okay :)

> >>>>> It's a good thing that JA is so good, otherwise the storyline might
> >>>>> not have worked so well.
>
> >>>> Absolutely. The story does have a few holes, but not for the first
> >>>> time it was lifted by Aniston, who also pulled Perry up a notch.
>
> >>> She did, didn't she?
>
> >> Yep, that's why it's hard to see that Perry was off form.
>
> > I noticed but I'm picky.
>
> Good for you sweetie, I rely on your inestimable judgement.
>
> And that of a few others in this ng, he added hastily. :)

Hehe!

> >>>>> Does Mrs Chatracus still live below Joey's apartment?
>
> >>>> No, we heard in 709 "TOW All the Candy" that the woman who came
> >>>> begging for candy after hours now lives below him, and she has sex
> >>>> really loud.
>
> >>> Oh, I knew there was something. I forgot about that. Maybe the loud
> >>> sex lady IS Mrs Chatracus?
>
> >> I can't deny that explicitly, but she sounds to me like she is a little
> >> old lady in 415 "TOW All the Rugby".
>
> > Maybe it's her daughter or something?
>
> Lol yes, I like that, hot-to-trot & loud-with-it Miss Chatracus!

How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
are there some more that we don't know about?

> >>>>>> It was nice to hear that Chandler & Rachel still lunch together, as
> >>>>>> we learnt in 320 "TOW the Dollhouse".
>
> >>>>> Except that now they don't pay for it!! It's a travesty.
>
> >>>> Hehe - hopefully that was a temporary aberration for this week only.
>
> >>> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!
>
> >> Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.
>
> > Bad Friends! Bad!
>
> Bad bad bad bad bad.

They're wicked.

> >>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...
>
> >>> When? I don't remember.
>
> >> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".
>
> > Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!
>
> Tolja!

I completely forgot about that :)

> >>>> I have dined with friends who are vegetarians, and they prepare
> >>>> wonderfully tasty food by not trying to emulate meat products.
>
> >>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
> >>> there ever was.
>
> >> Ooh, lovely! :)
>
> > It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........
>
> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................

I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.

> >> Yep. Sigh.
>
> > Oh well.
>
> Exactly, dear.

Yep.

> >>>> You *are* a true fan! :)
>
> >>> My handbag is like Phoebe's. I have a cordless hair curler in there in
> >>> case of emergencies. Before you laugh, let me tell you that it has
> >>> been extremely useful on a couple of occasions (for when your hair
> >>> does that Woo-hoo! thing).
>
> >> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.
>
> > My friend Sandy does that!
> > She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!
>
> ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!

Sandy's in another place.

> >>>> It's worth bearing in mind that you'll be completely different once
> >>>> you hit your thirties, assuming you get that far...
>
> >>> Probably. "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.
>
> >> Lol, yes.
>
> > I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.
>
> Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...

He would! They should have a musical episode........

> >>> Maybe they were best friends when they were younger - maybe about age
> >>> 9 - 12, then Rachel joined the popular group and Monica started taking
> >>> time off school?
>
> >> I don't think so - without assembling all the references, that's not the
> >> impression I get from the show.
>
> > No, me either.
>
> Okay. :)
>
>
> >>>>>> Everybody seems to be coming out this season (they're not of course)
> >>>>>> and here it was Monica's turn as she confessed the intimate details
> >>>>>> of her close relationship with Frannie, who also had heterosexual
> >>>>>> leanings towards Ross.
>
> >>>>> Well, my. Who would have thought?
>
> >>>> Do mean about gay Monica or straight Ross?
>
> >>> Gay Monica :)
>
> >> Hmmm... wait & see. :)
>
> > Alrighty-roo.
>
> Hehe. :)

I love saying that!

> >> It would seem that way, especially since Monica shushes Chandler.
>
> > Poor Chandler - it could have been quite innocent.
>
> It's okay, she knows how it sounds, and she's looking after him.

Yep.

> >>>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
> >>>>>> them?
>
> >>>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
>
> >>>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...
>
> >>> In disguise?!
>
> >> Yes!
>
> > In the Princess Leia costume?
>
> Lol! No, but you're making me think about it...

If she *really* wanted to ruin Frannie's wedding, that's what she
should have done. That, or worn a wedding dress. I actually know
somebody whose cousin turned up at her wedding wearing her own wedding
dress. That's so horrible!

> >>>> Yes yes yes, that all makes very good sense. Thanks.
>
> >>> I'm very wise - like Phoebe!
>
> >> What what what???
>
> >> You've changed horses!
>
> > I know! It's just that in this episode she said, "Yeah, I'm very
> > wise. I know."
>
> OIC, yes. Phoebe is the only one who's said anything like that.

Does that make me Phoebe now? Or am I still Monica?

> > The remake of the movie is closer to the book than the Kubrick version. I
> > read the book last year in the library and I want to get my own copy :)
>
> And does the newer movie come anywhere near capturing the book?

Yes, actually. It's v. good.

> >>>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> >>>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!
>
> >>>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?
>
> >>> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
> >>> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
> >>> why she wasn't invited.
>
> >> So why didn't he tell her?
>
> > Because it would have messed up the storyline. (Same old, same old!)
>
> Yes, I'm afraid you're right, it was weak writing.

Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy or
something?

> >>>>> Oh, those critics...
>
> >>>> Sigh. Yes.
>
> >>> Never mind.
>
> >> :)
>
> > They'll never beat the true fans!
>
> All hands to the barricades!

We have Chandlerisms! We have T-shirts with the Friends logo on them!
We have MP3s of Smelly Cat! We will never surrender!!!!!

> >>>>>> Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> >>>>>> once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> >>>>>> this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> >>>>>> Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
>
> >>>>> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> >>>>> Tennant?
>
> >>>> I quite like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".
>
> >>> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
> >>> middle name. Want me to dig it out?
>
> >> Yes please.
>
> > Okay I'll find it tonight.
>
> And?

Oops, forgot. I went to my English class instead and learned about
apostrophes. I have a feeling that I already knew about them.

> >>> David tried to call Phoebe from Minsk before he left, to tell her that
> >>> he was returning. This was before she moved in, so when he dialled it
> >>> said "This number is not recognised" or something. So when he got to NY
> >>> he went straight to Central Perk, to wait for his love. Sigh...
>
> >> So romantic...
>
> > Yeah, it really is...
>
> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)

Awww... maybe this time for good.

> >>>>>> Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> >>>>>> worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> >>>>>> but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> >>>>>> some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front.
>
> >>>>> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
>
> >>>> What would happen if she did find out?
>
> >>> She'd be upset. And for a good reason.
>
> >> They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.
>
> > Yes, they should have!
>
> And as long as they don't send the chicken back because it's too dry!

They wouldn't order chicken - Joey just eats the skin!

> >>>>> It would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
> >>>>> biased because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan.
>
> >>>> Hehe, yes I know. I reckon she was better in Friends than most of her
> >>>> movies. If she did return, would it be to wreak more vengeance?
>
> >>> I have most of her movies! Heehee! Well of course she'd be causing
> >>> havoc - she could probably find something to be angry at Ross for.
> >>> Maybe he brought his banana-and-mealworm cake along with him and it
> >>> made her hair smell funny? She's going to get revenge!
>
> >> Lol, and what would she do to Joey?
>
> > Be pissed because he's the only one who hasn't caused her horrible harm in
> > some way, and rather than date her he chose to date her sister!
>
> Yeah, but that was Julia's sister, not Susie's sister.

Might have been Susie's sister too. Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing
like Julia at all! Nor does Eric.

> >>>>> And it would be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned
> >>>>> below - because Joey really doesn't have anybody.
>
> >>>> Oh yes, I'm a big Dina Meyer fan - have you seen "Johnny Mnemonic"?
>
> >>> No I haven't. :(
>
> >> It's not as bad a movie as people say, though not good either,
> >> but IMHO Dina Meyer is very good in it.
>
> > I'll see if I can find it next time I go to the video shop.
>
> It's a good one to watch if you're a bit pushed for time, since all the
> best bits are in the first half-hour, DinaMeyerwise.

Lol, okay.

> >>>>> How about Jasmine? For some reason, I really like her!
>
> >>>> Yes, me too, but she's not really long-lost, she supposed to be still
> >>>> around, living with Gunther for all we know. But I quite agree that it
> >>>> would be great to see more of her - and also Sophie, yes?
>
> >>> Yep, Sophie's nice. It would be really funny if you got Jasmine thingy
> >>> and Megan Mullally and Jennifer Tilly and Joey Lauren Adams all in the
> >>> same room.
>
> >> Why Jennifer Tilly, and not Christine Baranski?
>
> > Because Christine Baranski doesn't have one of those voices.
>
> Oh! I thought you were doing something else!

No, sorry!

> Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you mean
> about their voices, except that none of the others are in the same league
> as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing would be nice...

Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'? I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is
something else! I wish I could talk like that!

> >>>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> >>>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...
>
> >>>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
> >>>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.
>
> >>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
>
> >> Exactly.
>
> > Sorry!
>
> Why "sorry"? I thought you were agreeing with me?

No, I disagreed. I don't think he was admitting anything.

> >>>>>> As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
>
> >>>>> And why not? You have to love her!
>
> >>>> Yes, one does, but maybe she ought to get Richard... ;)
>
> >>> Oh, totally. Or Pete!
>
> >> No, Pete doesn't deserve to get lucky, he's got money, but Richard
> >> gave his brownie point meter a good spin in the last finale.
>
> > Yeah, but maybe Janice deserves to get lucky with a millionaire! She'd
> > have so much fun at the Look How Much Money We've Got themed wedding,
> > and she could sing both Careless Whisper and Lady In Red, going on to
> > Money Money Money as an encore!
>
> ROTFL! In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.

Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!

CandiGrrl

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> > >> >
> > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> > >> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
> > >>
> > >> >A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your coat?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her sock,
> > >> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
> > >
> > >It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she
> probably
> > >has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".
> >
> >
> > How do we know she doesn't have a fork in there too? Plus if Joey has one
> > they can share. Rachel ate some cheesecake from Chandler's fork in this
> ep.
>
> A fork isn't as flat as a knife and isn't as easy to carry. Also it would be
> less handy than a knife in an attack.

Not necessarily - have you seen 'Slums Of Beverly Hills'?!

> > >> >Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can sail a
> > >> >boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet
> proud
> > >> >enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor; liberated
> by
> > >> >Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially betrayed
> > >> >by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion
> game,
> > >> >yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo
> point;
> > >> >and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing the
> > >> same?
> > >
> > >I'm sure you're not that bad! For a start, did your Dad buy you a sailing
> > >boat when your pony was sick?
> >
> >
> > No, he bought me a kitten.
>
> Whatever works!

Well, there's nowhere for me to have a boat here. You can have a
kitten anywhere.

> > >> >Monica & Frannie were inseparable from the ages 7-9, and Monica first
> met
> > >> >Rachel when she was 6. Does this mean Rachel didn't become Monica's
> best
> > >> >friend until they were 9, or is it as we suspect that they were mainly
> > >> >schoolfriends - when at home, Monica had Frannie, and Rachel had
> Mindy?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It always sounded to me like they weren't best friends in school... I
> mean,
> > >> I know it says that they were, but from a lot of the things that we
> hear,
> it
> > >> doesn't make sense.
> > >
> > >I think there may have been a bit of an error here...but you can have
> more
> > >than 1 best friend!
> >
> >
> > You can have several close friends, but generally when you're that age you
> > have one *best* friend.
>
> Yeah I see what you mean....I don't think they can have thought much about
> it though when writing it.

Well, never mind. I guess they just wanted some Monica/Rachel
flashbacks.

> > >> >Chandler casually mentioned that he did undress his cousin Glenn,
> > >> >which might have been quite innocent if he was a baby or disabled.
> > >> >However Monica seemed to know all about this, and immediately shut
> > >> >him up. Now, Chandler is not gay, but what sort of household did he
> > >> >grow up in, where the Bings shared their male lovers?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Glenn might be a girl. Glenn Close is, after all. But never mind about
> > >that.
> > >
> > >I'm sure it was a boy because it makes the joke even more strange funny.
> >
> >
> > Well, that's definitely what the writers were going for. I'm just
> exploring
> > possibilities...
>
> I don't think I want to go very far down that road!

Okay :)

> > >> >Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
> them?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
> > >
> > >Maybe the writers forgot.
> >
> >
> > Maybe :)
>
> Just exploring the possibilities ;)

Hehe!

> > >> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie, neither
> > >> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of Aunts
> > >> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
> > >> >
> > >> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> > >> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was, so
> > >> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have told
> > >> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
> even
> > >> Richard didn't recognise her at first.
> > >
> > >Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long time.....
> >
> >
> > Nor has Aunt Millie.
>
> Do we know that for certain?

No, we don't - but she has never been mentioned or seen before, so I'm
guessing that she hasn't seen Thin Monica.

> > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was
> she?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > >
> > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> >
> >
> > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was peeved
> > (such a cool word!)
>
> I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear word and
> is socially acceptable-ish.

Yeah, and it sounds so nice!

> > >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way into
> her
> > >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting
> Stuart?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> > >
> > >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on ruining
> > >Frannie's day.
> >
> >
> > She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't know
> that
> > her brother got an invitation.
>
> I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!

Me too. I don't get why she wouldn't have found out who Frannie was
marrying though!

> > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his character
> > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Oh, those critics...
> > >
> > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> >
> >
> > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".
>
> What is that!?

Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.

> > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't Phoebe
> > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her? Didn't
> > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little bit.
> > >
> > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> >
> >
> > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
>
> I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she just
> randomly picked it.

I know! I'm just picking names too.

> > >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she did
> > >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew about
> > >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions of
> > >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's yours,
> > >> Tennant?
> > >>
> > >Elsie Elsie!!
> >
> >
> > I quite like that!
>
> It's the only funny name beginning with E!

What about "Esmeralda"?

> > >> >David originally went to Minsk for three years, not six, which sounds
> > >> >like an error, but isn't it known for scientific & other projects to
> > >> >take far longer than originally expected?
> > >> >
> > >> >Phoebe says that Minsk is in Russia, which is factually incorrect,
> > >> >it's in Belarus, but then many people refer to countries which were
> > >> >once part of the Soviet Union as "Russia". If Phoebe ever did visit
> > >> >Minsk before she moved in with Monica, then at that time the region
> > >> >was known as Belorussia, which could be mistaken for "Russia".
> > >> >
> > >> >International conferences last longer than one day, so why didn't
> > >> >David contact Phoebe earlier? Was he too scared?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Maybe he didn't know how. Maybe he tried to phone her at her apartment,
> but
> > >> it was before she moved back in and the lines were still down - so he
> went
> > >> straight to her hang-out, Central Perk, eagerly awaiting her...
> > >
> > >He must have known about Monica's apartment though?
> >
> >
> > Shh! Quit spoiling my plot! I'm making an epic love story here, can't you
> > see? :)
>
> Ok....sorry....please continue!

I'm done now :)

> > >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> > >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he does
> > >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW No-one's
> > >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's fatigues.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> sometimes.
> > >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> > >
> > >I wouldn't want to all the time!
> >
> >
> > Especially not in winter.
>
> Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!

Sorry!

> > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where Monica
> > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant";
> > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > >>
> > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> >
> >
> > She'd more likely just be upset.
> >
> And screechy!!

Crying, more like.

> > >> >If Hank Azaria sounds familiar, he performs a number of voices in "The
> > >> >Simpsons", including Apu, Moe, Chief Wiggum, and the Comic Book Guy.
> > >> >
> > >> >What other long-lost guest stars would you like to see come back?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well, it would be fun to see The Return Of Susie Moss... but then I'm
> biased
> > >> because as you probably know I'm a bit of a Julia Roberts fan. And it
> would
> > >> be lovely if Kate Miller returned - as you mentioned below - because
> Joey
> > >> really doesn't have anybody. How about Jasmine? For some reason, I
> really
> > >> like her!
> > >
> > >What the back of her head?
> >
> >
> > Umm, let's see. When Ross was discovering the trail from Chloe to Rachel,
> > she told him he did a "bad thing", she got Phoebe's brother Frank into an
> > armlock when he touched her up and she described Paolo as "yum". She just
> > has the coolest voice!
>
> She probably smokes a lot, that's how you generally get those kina voices.

My friend Laura talks like that because she has nodules.

> > >> > ---o0o---
> > >> >
> > >> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross &
> Phoebe
> > >> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting the
> lady
> > >> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these
> compete
> > >> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> his
> > >> personality to shreds with Joey...
> > >
> > >I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.
> >
> >
> > I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)
>
> Really?

Yep, he's a total R&P fan!

> > >> >Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but the
> > >> >determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such that
> > >> >one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the rest
> > >> >of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
> > >> >
> > >> >As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
> > >> >
> > >> >As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
> > >> >
> > >> >As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
> > >> >
> > >> >As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
> > >> >
> > >> >As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And why not? You have to love her!
> > >
> > >Do I have to?
> >
> >
> > Yeah... it's like a rule - if you want to be a Friends fan, you have to do
> > the special Janice Initiation Test. They lock you in a room with the mix
> > tape and make you listen to it on repeat for four hours.
>
> Ok that's two nightmares in one reply....are you trying to kill me?! I hate
> Barbera Streisand!

Does anyone like her? Actually like her, I mean. Have you ever heard
anyone describe themself as a "Barbra Streisand fan"?

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <eC4p7.491427$EF2.66...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.daa8d74aba...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> I'm not judging them in a moral sense (whether what they're guilty
> >> of was right or wrong), only if the law would regard any of their
> >> actions as a crime, or at least an arrestable offence. Is no-one
> >> in the United States ever arrested on suspicion of something?
>
> > You can be arrested for suspicion of something, but I thought you'd been
> > listing crimes, which suggests that they could be convicted for these
> > things.
>
> Well, "crimes" was a loose description.

Okay. . .

> >> Isn't unauthorised cable access regarded as theft in America?
>
> > If you went out and mucked around with the wires to get yourself free
> > cable it would be. If the cable company or one of its employees goofed
> > and provided access to the channels, I don't think the recipients would
> > be liable.
>
> Why isn't watching the TV itself a crime?

Because as a cable subscriber, it wouldn't be your job to keep abreast of
which channels are part of your package. Cable companies add channels all
the time, and a channel that might be premium in one market might be free in
another--or could be added to an existing premium package. So I vote we
knock this one off of their list!

> >> So there's no Section 12, or if there is it doesn't have a Paragraph 7?
>
> > No section 12.
>
> Ah, that's probably why the writers chose it, like Ross at NYU.

Yes.


> >> Would you care to hazard a guess at which state (apart from
> >> Pennsylvania) is believed by Monica to be the most liberal on this
issue?
>
> > Monica would probably assume states in the deep south would be more
> > liberal about this (Arkansas? Mississippi?), only because of stereotypes
> > northerners have. Which is kind of funny considering CCA is southern
> > herself (Alabama).
>
> CCA is but Monica isn't.

True.

> >> So why did Ross let Chandler take the blame?
>
> > Fear of his parents' wrath/disapproval, probably.
>
> I still find it hard to believe.

Oh, well.

Sorry--it's just that it's messier than it might seem. Oh, one thing I do
know is that what Monica worried about with Ethan could fall under statutory
rape or (I think) statutory sexual misconduct. However, these wouldn't
actually apply in their case (since he was old enough to consent in NYS).
Also, many of these laws assume the older party is male and the younger
female (I'm not sure, but this might be the case in NY). Of course, Mary K.
LeTourneau, the schoolteacher in Washington state who had an affair (and two
children) with a male student who was 14 years old when they began, wasn't
so lucky.

> > BTW, what exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral earnings"?
> > Arguably, many CEOs do this. . . . ;)
>
> Phoebe at the end of 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry".

Ah, that was simply comeuppance. ;)

> >>> I didn't mean that you've probably *compiled* a list, only that one
> >>> probably *could* compile one for you as you have for the characters.
>
> >> Oh!! I didn't read it like that, since I'm so pure & innocent.
>
> > Ah, that's not what the poor sap in the iron mask says. ;)
>
> Oh?

Yep. But he's biased.

> > But if she'd paid attention and noticed the wrong bed were being
> > delivered, the fake middle name would never have been an issue.
>
> That's fair enough, but I don't want to get bogged down in arguing over
> which aspect was the worst for Phoebe, since my thesis is that the whole
> experience was so negative for her that if she ever felt that Monica was
> at fault she would middle name her with E---- not Fallula.

Okay. But maybe Monica's middle name is a closely guarded secret, and if
Phoebe middle named her, she'd make up something else--"Monica Evergreen
Gellar, you get right over here!"

> >> The odds are very heavy that Monica's E is an initial.
>
> > Probably, but it might just stay that way forever (and I wouldn't mind
> > because I don't have much interest in middle names, having dropped my
> > own).
>
> You dropped your own middle name???

Yup. I couldn't wait!

> >>> It's more likely that she's going to choose "Monica Geller Bing"
> >>> rather than Monica E. Bing.
>
> >> Nah, she doesn't want to be a Geller, that's for Ross to be.
>
> > As you like to say, I guess we'll have to wait and see, but in the
> > meantime, the IMDb has taken the liberty of covering all bases with
> > "Monica E. Geller Bing," which I think is the least likely outcome.
>
> Oh, these names change on the IMDb like waves washing along the shore.

:)

> >>> Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some Phoebe
> >>> time, only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet another
> >>> discussion or session.
>
> >> If that's so, then he doesn't deserve her, and should never be seen
> >> again.
>
> > Awwww--you're cruel. :(
>
> Maybe so, but if it was me I'd choose Phoebe over Minsk.

Phoebe wouldn't let you. But I hope the writers bring him back. He's my
favorite Phoebe beau.

> >>> Phoebe/David were heartbreaking.
>
> >> Phoebe/David or Phoebe/Joey? It was after David departed that we had
> >> the really heartbreaking stuff, which completely took me, for it was
> >> wonderful situation comedy whilst not being funny, yet not unfunny.
>
> > The whole thing--Phoebe/David made Phoebe/Joey possible and poignant.
> > This makes me hope more than ever that Phoebe and David are ultimately
> > reunited for good on the show. I'm sorry, but if the show ends of with
> > the main six all paired up with one another), I'll be disappointed. If
> > they find a way to make R & R work, fine. But let's see Phoebe/David;
> > Joey/Kate (or Joey/someone else). Let's mix things up.
>
> And what about Chandler & Monica?

They can stay together happily--I have nothing against that. :)

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010917225552...@mb-dd.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

>> From: Tennant Stuart ten...@argonet.co.uk

>>> Also. It was Monica's floor. I assume her floor would always be clean
>>> enough to eat off.. ;)

>> It was the hallway, so it wasn't Monica's floor, but basically you are
>> right since we can assume that she would clean it. But what I want to
>> know is, why doesn't Monica clean Joey's apartment for him?

> ooops! My goof. I never saw that one. Only read the script. But it would
> be like her to clean the hallway in front of her door.. then the hallway
> leading to her door and the stairs which leads to the hallway that leads
> to her door since its all connected.

> But Joey might have a problem with it. But he does eat off the floor in
> his apartment so maybe she does and we just don't know it.

So why would Joey object?


>>> This is me!

>> Hi you! :)

> Hi. How you doin'?

If velvet frogs are female, then I'm doing just fine, baby... ;)


>>> What kind of scary ass clowns came to your birthday parties?

>> Yes, it should have been ducks are tails, because ducks have tails.

> Yes it should have been. But its JOEY!

Don't fall for Joey's act, like Chandler does. :)

Tennant Stuart

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In article <GkJFxDAf...@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk>, Sean Black
<se...@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Thanx - didn't *anyone* who's reading this watch "Felicity" in Britain?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.0109...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<na.a4af794abb...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> You are very kind-hearted.

>>> Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with
>>> him.

>> Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)

> Lol, you're going to wear me down aren't you?

KHG


>> Lol yes, I like that, hot-to-trot & loud-with-it Miss Chatracus!

> How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
> are there some more that we don't know about?

Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with the other
two further along the corridor, roughly where the studio audience sits.


>>>>> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!

>>>> Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.

>>> Bad Friends! Bad!

>> Bad bad bad bad bad.

> They're wicked.

Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.


>>>>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...

>>>>> When? I don't remember.

>>>> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".

>>> Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!

>> Tolja!

> I completely forgot about that :)

Hehe - and he's not too keen on dust bunnies, either...


>>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>>>>> there ever was.

>>>> Ooh, lovely! :)

>>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........

>> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................

> I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.

Ooh, thanks sweetie!


>>>> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.

>>> My friend Sandy does that!
>>> She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!

>> ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!

> Sandy's in another place.

Another place mentally, or she's passed on?


>>>>> "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.

>>>> Lol, yes.

>>> I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.

>> Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...

> He would! They should have a musical episode........

Lol, great idea - though it would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.

>>> Alrighty-roo.

>> Hehe. :)

> I love saying that!

It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)


>>>>>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
>>>>>>>> them?

>>>>>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?

>>>>>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...

>>>>> In disguise?!

>>>> Yes!

>>> In the Princess Leia costume?

>> Lol! No, but you're making me think about it...

> If she *really* wanted to ruin Frannie's wedding, that's what she
> should have done. That, or worn a wedding dress. I actually know
> somebody whose cousin turned up at her wedding wearing her own
> wedding dress. That's so horrible!

That was Monica's original plan - in the full-length version on DVD,
just before Phoebe notices David at Central Perk, this happens...

MONICA: Do you think it's inappropriate to wear a white lacy
dress to a wedding?

PHOEBE: Yes!

MONICA: Excellent.


..there's also more at Iridium, and much more about broad-backed girls,
plus we find out that Chandler's cousin Glenn was indeed a boy...

JOEY: I think she's trying to pull a fast one on Big Daddy! Now, if
you'll excuse me... (he starts to take off his pants again)

CHANDLER: Dude, dude! If I took off my pants right now, how would
you feel?

JOEY: Like your cousin Glenn.


..but the only new stuff about Stuart was this...

MONICA: Oh wait, I forgot my wrap.

ROSS: Oh, I'll wait here for you.

MONICA: I can't go back there!

ROSS: Why?

MONICA: Did you see the way Stuart was staring at me? I think he
still wants me.

ROSS: Oh my god!

MONICA: Just go do it.

ROSS: What? Oh, okay. Wait here.


>> Does the newer movie come anywhere near capturing the book?

> Yes, actually. It's v. good.

Oh.

>>>>>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
>>>>>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!

>>>>>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?

>>>>> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
>>>>> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
>>>>> why she wasn't invited.

>>>> So why didn't he tell her?

>>> Because it would have messed up the storyline. (Same old, same old!)

>> Yes, I'm afraid you're right, it was weak writing.

> Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy or
> something?

Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.


>>>>>>> Oh, those critics...

>>>>>> Sigh. Yes.

>>>>> Never mind.

>>>> :)

>>> They'll never beat the true fans!

>> All hands to the barricades!

> We have Chandlerisms! We have T-shirts with the Friends logo on them!
> We have MP3s of Smelly Cat! We will never surrender!!!!!

We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!


>>>>>> I like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".

>>>>> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
>>>>> middle name. Want me to dig it out?

>>>> Yes please.

>>> Okay I'll find it tonight.

>> And?

> Oops, forgot. I went to my English class instead and learned about
> apostrophes. I have a feeling that I already knew about them.

Apostrophes rule!


>>>> So romantic...

>>> Yeah, it really is...

>> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)

> Awww... maybe this time for good.

Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...


>>>> They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.

>>> Yes, they should have!

>> And as long as they don't send the chicken back because it's too dry!

> They wouldn't order chicken - Joey just eats the skin!

That's why Allesandro's is so perfect!


>>>> Lol, and what would she do to Joey?

>>> Be pissed because he's the only one who hasn't caused her horrible
>>> harm in some way, and rather than date her he chose to date her sister!

>> Yeah, but that was Julia's sister, not Susie's sister.

> Might have been Susie's sister too.

Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?


> Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!

You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!


> Nor does Eric.

He's a guy... ;)


>> Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you
>> mean about their voices, except that none of the others are in the same
>> league as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing would be
>> nice...

> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?

No, the only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.


> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could talk
> like that!

She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?


>>>>>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
>>>>>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...

>>>>>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
>>>>>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.

>>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

>>>> Exactly.

>>> Sorry!

>> Why "sorry"? I thought you were agreeing with me?

> No, I disagreed. I don't think he was admitting anything.

Oh.


>> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.

> Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!

Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...

Tennant Stuart

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In article <3ANp7.509974$T97.66...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.4f36e24abb...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>> Isn't unauthorised cable access regarded as theft in America?

>>> If you went out and mucked around with the wires to get yourself free
>>> cable it would be. If the cable company or one of its employees goofed
>>> and provided access to the channels, I don't think the recipients
>>> would be liable.

>> Why isn't watching the TV itself a crime?

> Because as a cable subscriber, it wouldn't be your job to keep abreast
> of which channels are part of your package. Cable companies add channels
> all the time, and a channel that might be premium in one market might be
> free in another--or could be added to an existing premium package. So I
> vote we knock this one off of their list!

This seems to be a weird American thing where if anything goes wrong with
the technology then non-subscribers can also watch the channel, whereas in
Europe if anything goes wrong with the technology then the subscribers can
no longer watch the channel.


>> I was hoping you'd just correct some of the terms.

> Sorry--it's just that it's messier than it might seem. Oh, one thing I
> do know is that what Monica worried about with Ethan could fall under
> statutory rape or (I think) statutory sexual misconduct. However, these
> wouldn't actually apply in their case (since he was old enough to
> consent in NYS). Also, many of these laws assume the older party is male
> and the younger female (I'm not sure, but this might be the case in NY).
> Of course, Mary K. LeTourneau, the schoolteacher in Washington state who
> had an affair (and two children) with a male student who was 14 years
> old when they began, wasn't so lucky.

That was probably the case I was thinking of when you mentioned Amy
Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco.


>>> BTW, what exactly do you have in mind for "living off immoral
>>> earnings"? Arguably, many CEOs do this. . . . ;)

>> Phoebe at the end of 614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry".

> Ah, that was simply comeuppance. ;)

Hehe.

>>> But if she'd paid attention and noticed the wrong bed were being
>>> delivered, the fake middle name would never have been an issue.

>> That's fair enough, but I don't want to get bogged down in arguing over
>> which aspect was the worst for Phoebe, since my thesis is that the whole
>> experience was so negative for her that if she ever felt that Monica was
>> at fault she would middle name her with E---- not Fallula.

> Okay. But maybe Monica's middle name is a closely guarded secret, and if
> Phoebe middle named her, she'd make up something else--"Monica Evergreen
> Gellar, you get right over here!"

Hmmm, or even "Monica Evergreen Terrace Geller".


>>>> The odds are very heavy that Monica's E is an initial.

>>> Probably, but it might just stay that way forever (and I wouldn't mind
>>> because I don't have much interest in middle names, having dropped my
>>> own).

>> You dropped your own middle name???

> Yup. I couldn't wait!

You couldn't wait?

>>>>> Maybe he tried valiantly, time and again, to get away for some
>>>>> Phoebe time, only to have admiring colleagues pull him into yet
>>>>> another discussion or session.

>>>> If that's so, then he doesn't deserve her, and should never be seen
>>>> again.

>>> Awwww--you're cruel. :(

>> Maybe so, but if it was me I'd choose Phoebe over Minsk.

> Phoebe wouldn't let you.

Yes she would, because I'd organise PDSAP research in New York.


> But I hope the writers bring him back. He's my favorite Phoebe beau.

As guest star boyfs go, he's second only to Richard Burke, IMHO. :)


>>>>> Phoebe/David were heartbreaking.

>>>> Phoebe/David or Phoebe/Joey? It was after David departed that we had
>>>> the really heartbreaking stuff, which completely took me, for it was
>>>> wonderful situation comedy whilst not being funny, yet not unfunny.

>>> The whole thing--Phoebe/David made Phoebe/Joey possible and poignant.
>>> This makes me hope more than ever that Phoebe and David are ultimately
>>> reunited for good on the show. I'm sorry, but if the show ends of with
>>> the main six all paired up with one another), I'll be disappointed. If
>>> they find a way to make R & R work, fine. But let's see Phoebe/David;
>>> Joey/Kate (or Joey/someone else). Let's mix things up.

>> And what about Chandler & Monica?

> They can stay together happily--I have nothing against that. :)

Awwww... :)

Owen Shiers

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>
> >>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
> >>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?
>
> >>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky or
> >>> something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
> >> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.
>
> > Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.
>
> It doesn't sound like a Sky show.

How can it not sound like a sky show?!


>
>
> >>> Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some sort
> >>> of database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so much
> >>> time trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've forgotten.
>
> >> You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
> >> into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.
>
> > That's what I guessed you did....then do you search the whole text file?
>
> That's how I started.

There's more?!!


>
>
> >>> Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to the
> >>> girl who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this season
> >>> and how they kinda lost is last season.
>
> >> I reckon that S6 was better overall than S1, S3, S4 or S5.
>
> > Really? U mean consistency-wise?
>
> I rated each episode as a hit or a miss, and the seasons ended like
this...
>
> S-1 58%
> S-2 79%
> S-3 60%
> S-4 58%
> S-5 54%
> S-6 64%
> S-7 67%

Wow, I must say I agree with you about season 2, but I'm not sure that 6 was
better than 5 and 4.


>
>
> >>> Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....
>
> >> Look them up on the internet.
>
> > Will do ;)
>
> And?

Nope....nothing.....maybe it's Mamma's not Momma's?


>
>
> >>>> What about the great actor Sir Antony Sher?
>
> >>> Hang on that's a bit further from Shier but still i like the "great"
> >>> part!
>
> >> He's done some brilliant work.
>
> > Wow, has he been in anything I've heard of?
>
>
> 1979 Yanks (1979) [G.I. at Cinema]
> 1980 Superman II (1980) [Bell Boy]
> 1981 The History Man (1981) (TV) [Howard Kirk]
> 1981 Mark Gertler: Fragments of a Biography (1981)
> 1985 Shadey (1985) [Oliver Shadey]
> 1989 Erik the Viking (1989) [Loki]
> 1990 The Land of Dreams (1990) (TV) [David Samuels]
> 1993 Genghis Cohn (1993) [Genghis Cohn]
> 1995 The Young Poisoner's Handbook (1995) [Dr. Ernest Zeigler]
> 1996 Indian Summer (1996) [Jack]
> 1996 The Moonstone (1996) (TV) [Sergeant Cuff]
> 1996 The Wind in the Willows (1996/I) [Chief Weasel]
> 1997 Mrs. Brown (1997) [Benjamin Disraeli]
> 1998 Shakespeare in Love (1998) [Dr. Moth]
> 1999 Hornblower: The Frogs and the Lobsters (1999) [Moncoutant]
> 2000 The Miracle Maker (2000) (TV) [Ben Azra] (voice)
>

Wow thanks! I'll have to look this guy up!


>
> >> Well, *that* is screechy.
>
> > Yes I suppose "I JUST WROTE YOU A LETTER FROM THE BEYOND!" is!
>
> Yeah, and "NO YOU ROBOT"

Lol, I thought that episode was a good season 6 episode.


>
>
>
> >>> Screechy reminds me of owls!
>
> >> This is true. :)
>
> > lol, I get loads where I live!
>
> Barns & Tawnies?

Not so many Barns, lots and lots of Tawnies and some screech....It's quite
scary when I'm on the net late at night and they're screeching!


>
>
> >> Wait & see...
>
> > Meaning?!
>
> Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.

ah....under what banner can you? (email me if you wanna be extra sure!)


>
>
>
> >>>>>> I agree it would have been nice to have had a throwaway line about
> >>>>>> this, but instead we heard that he'd had 30 haircuts, which is nice
> >>>>>> to know...
>
> >>>>> U can never have too many haircuts....that's my motto!
>
> >>>> Hehe, and 30 haircuts in 6 years is one every 10 weeks.
>
> >>> Ahhh the wonders of Microsoft calculator!
>
> >> Eek no, I did it in my head.
>
> > Wow, I'm impressed, you must have been listening in Maths lessons!
>
> Maths is *very* easy, and neat fun.

No...no....err no! I'm ok with basic algebra but things like radians and
that are ich.


>
>
> >>>>>> My theory is that David figured that such a lovely woman would have
> >>>>>> been snapped up in the intervening six years.
>
> >>>>> She certainly should have been....
>
> >>>> Oh, I know - remember this, from 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche"?
>
> >>>> PHOEBE: Oh, look at little Lesley stretching in her sleep.
>
> >>>> MONICA: Oh it's so cute. I wonder what age it is when you
> >>>> stop being able to put both legs over your head.
>
> >>>> PHOEBE: Oh, I can still do that.
>
> >>>> MONICA: How are you still single?!
>
> >>> I'm surprised that she hasn't had at least one "long" relationship....
> >>> Gary was about 2-3 months wasn't he?
>
> >> No, much less than that - airdates 4th March to 22nd April 1999.
>
> > Silly really, apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
> > have very short relationships
>
> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.

Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and dissapear without
mention, especially Joey's!


>
>
> >>>> We pay too much attention to those little clips of film. If you look
> >>>> at the outside view of the apartment block (it's the SE corner of
> >>>> Bedford & Grove in Greenwich Village) you will note that the
> >>>> balconies are different, and the red store on the ground floor is
> >>>> rather dissimilar from Central Perk.
>
> >>> Lol I've certainly noticed that....I gave Helena directions there
> >>> when she went to New York and she's taken some photos for me.
>
> >>> When everntually I get them we'll be able to see in further detail
> >>> hopefully. Have you ever been to NY?
>
> >> Not yet, and now it's too late for one big chunk of it.
>
> > Yes...I hope they rebuild it...they were such amazing buildings...
>
> They could do 3 medium sized building, and one tall building, which
> would be the second from the left in a line of four...

I think most's New Yorkers would like to see the same buildings rebuilt in
an act of defiance, maybe even taller though to say "F*** You" to terrorism,
that is depending on what happens in the near future.


>
>
> >>>>>>> Brooke Shields....that is one of my favourite episodes..
>
> >>>>>>> "And you left the toilet seat up, you bastard!"
>
> >>>>>> Hehe - they say that her guest appearance revitalised her career.
>
> >>>>> Wow.....my mum recognised her when she watched that episode with me,
> >>>>> and my mum doesn't even know who Jennifer Aniston is!
>
> >>>> Well, Brooke Shields has had a longer film career...
>
> >>> I suppose, Picture Perfect isn't exactly my Mum's cup of tea
>
> >> No, it was a dreadful picture, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".
>
> > I thought that was just as bad?!
>
> It's nothing compared with "Picture Perfect"!

lol, I was half asleep when I saw picture perfect, one of my friends has
seen it 12 times though! I missed lost in space on BBC the other week. My
friend said it wasn't worth seeing.


>
>
> >>>>>>> I think David would be a great way to end the show for Phoebe.
> >>>>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.
>
> >>>>>> It does seem very cut & dried.
>
> >>>>> Excuse my lack of knowledge of common phrases but what does that
> > mean?
>
> >>>> Far too neat, without any loose ends.
>
> >>> ahhhhh ok I get you. Thanks, and yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be
> >>> very realistic....but Friends isn't that realistic anyway!
>
> >> It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.
>
> > Well doesn't being too neat does make it unrealistic?
>
> No, because it's unrealistic anyway.
>

Artistic License! (this is getting confusing!)


>
> >>>> What don't you like about her, apart from the voice?
>
> >>> I think the voice justifies as 1000 reasons for not liking her! Now
> >>> *she* is screechy!
>
> >> But Maggie Wheeler has a lovely voice, so Janice's can be changed.
>
> > I just find her very annoying and irriable...as does Joey! I must say
her
> > singing on the mixed tape was very sweet and funny.
>
> So how would you feel if she had a nice voice?

Slightly better, you can't judge somebody on their voice, but it seems to
make it all a lot worse!


>
>
> >>>>> Off to watch I love 1994
>
> >>>> Aaarrrgggh! I forgot to tape it!
>
> >>>> What did they say about "Friends"?
>
> >>>> Quite a bit actually....about how the rembrants song was really
> >>>> sucsessful....urm they showed various clips from season 1 and season7
> >>>> with bits from the classic "you kissed my mom" plot. Urm they showed
> >>>> bits from the rembrants video and also a BBC interview (I think) with
> >>>> the three guys around 1996 (MP was thin so I guessed that) I think
> >>>> the interviewer was that woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I
> >>>> can't remember...have you seen it?
>
> >> That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
> >> which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.
>
> > Why did MP look so thin then? Was it me? Did you see the interview?
>
> I've seen the interview, but I'm not sure about when it was recorded.

I'm sure it was between seasons 3 and 4, or before, he did look very thin to
me. Also David's hair was similar to his at the start of season 4.


>
>
> >>> DS was talking about how they agreed at the start not to get involved
> >>> with one another, MLB claimed that that was now out the window. They
> >>> also had a bit about "The Shag"...Otherwise it was pretty crap
> >>> actually.....apart from Mel and Sue...they rock!
>
> >> How did they fit in?
> >
> >> In what sense? (sorry, I'm stupid!)
>
> Did Mel & Sue talk about "Friends", or something else?

Urm yeah I think they just sang a bit of the theme tune and talked about the
shag but they mostly commented on other stuff. They did interview one of the
original writers (Jeff Greensomething?)
>
>
> Owen


Owen Shiers

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> > > >> >
> > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> > > >> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
> > > >>
> > > >> >A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your
coat?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her
sock,
> > > >> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
> > > >
> > > >It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she
> > probably
> > > >has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".
> > >
> > >
> > > How do we know she doesn't have a fork in there too? Plus if Joey has
one
> > > they can share. Rachel ate some cheesecake from Chandler's fork in
this
> > ep.
> >
> > A fork isn't as flat as a knife and isn't as easy to carry. Also it
would be
> > less handy than a knife in an attack.
>
> Not necessarily - have you seen 'Slums Of Beverly Hills'?!

No, should I?!


>
> > > >> >Rachel has come a long way, hasn't she? From a princess who can
sail a
> > > >> >boat but not brew coffee or do laundry; humbled as a waitress yet
> > proud
> > > >> >enough of the accomplishment to be insulted by her suitor;
liberated
> > by
> > > >> >Joey ("You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions"); sequentially
betrayed
> > > >> >by Ross, Phoebe, Joanna & Joanna; finding her feet in the fashion
> > game,
> > > >> >yet losing her reserve in dropped spaghetti; comprehending a moo
> > point;
> > > >> >and now she's eating food off the hallway floor...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> She really has! Does that mean that in 15 years time, I'll be doing
the
> > > >> same?
> > > >
> > > >I'm sure you're not that bad! For a start, did your Dad buy you a
sailing
> > > >boat when your pony was sick?
> > >
> > >
> > > No, he bought me a kitten.
> >
> > Whatever works!
>
> Well, there's nowhere for me to have a boat here. You can have a
> kitten anywhere.
>

Not in the same house as a dog!

Ok, you win :)
>


>
> > > >> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie,
neither
> > > >> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of
Aunts
> > > >> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> > > >> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was,
so
> > > >> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have
told
> > > >> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
> > even
> > > >> Richard didn't recognise her at first.
> > > >
> > > >Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long
time.....
> > >
> > >
> > > Nor has Aunt Millie.
> >
> > Do we know that for certain?
>
> No, we don't - but she has never been mentioned or seen before, so I'm
> guessing that she hasn't seen Thin Monica.

Ok, you win again!


>
> > > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was
> > she?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > > >
> > > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was
peeved
> > > (such a cool word!)
> >
> > I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear word
and
> > is socially acceptable-ish.
>
> Yeah, and it sounds so nice!

Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!


>
> > > >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way
into
> > her
> > > >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting
> > Stuart?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > > >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> > > >
> > > >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on
ruining
> > > >Frannie's day.
> > >
> > >
> > > She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't know
> > that
> > > her brother got an invitation.
> >
> > I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!
>
> Me too. I don't get why she wouldn't have found out who Frannie was
> marrying though!
>

I don't think she cared who she was marrying, she was so intent on
surprising Frannie.

> > > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
character
> > > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> > > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh, those critics...
> > > >
> > > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> > >
> > >
> > > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".
> >
> > What is that!?
>
> Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.

Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?


>
> > > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't
Phoebe
> > > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her?
Didn't
> > > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little
bit.
> > > >
> > > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
> >
> > I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she just
> > randomly picked it.
>
> I know! I'm just picking names too.

Ok Glenda ;)


>
> > > >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she
did
> > > >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew
about
> > > >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions
of
> > > >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's
yours,
> > > >> Tennant?
> > > >>
> > > >Elsie Elsie!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I quite like that!
> >
> > It's the only funny name beginning with E!
>
> What about "Esmeralda"?

Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?

Lol ok.....wasn't that epic after all ;)


>
> > > >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> > > >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he
does
> > > >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW
No-one's
> > > >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's
fatigues.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> > sometimes.
> > > >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> > > >
> > > >I wouldn't want to all the time!
> > >
> > >
> > > Especially not in winter.
> >
> > Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!
>
> Sorry!
>

Thanks!

> > > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where
Monica
> > > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an
Eggplant";
> > > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> > > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > > >>
> > > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> > >
> > >
> > > She'd more likely just be upset.
> > >
> > And screechy!!
>
> Crying, more like.
>

Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave rubbish
massages!

?


>
> > > >> > ---o0o---
> > > >> >
> > > >> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross &
> > Phoebe
> > > >> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting
the
> > lady
> > > >> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these
> > compete
> > > >> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while
ripping
> > his
> > > >> personality to shreds with Joey...
> > > >
> > > >I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)
> >
> > Really?
>
> Yep, he's a total R&P fan!

Oh no...! R&R forever!


>
> > > >> >Or will David remain in Minsk forever, exiled not by his work but
the
> > > >> >determination of the producers to focus on their ensemble, such
that
> > > >> >one day Phoebe will be forced to settle for a gentle love for the
rest
> > > >> >of her life, while keeping David safe in a corner of her heart?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >As maybe Joey still does for Kate Miller?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >As maybe Ross still does for Carol Willick?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >As maybe Rachel still does for Ross Geller?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >As maybe Chandler still does for... oh no, not her!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> And why not? You have to love her!
> > > >
> > > >Do I have to?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah... it's like a rule - if you want to be a Friends fan, you have
to do
> > > the special Janice Initiation Test. They lock you in a room with the
mix
> > > tape and make you listen to it on repeat for four hours.
> >
> > Ok that's two nightmares in one reply....are you trying to kill me?! I
hate
> > Barbera Streisand!
>
> Does anyone like her? Actually like her, I mean. Have you ever heard
> anyone describe themself as a "Barbra Streisand fan"?

Urm I saw a cd of hers in my uncle's collection....I ran out as fast as I
could!

Owen


Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010919114714...@mb-cv.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

> We (in South Florida at least) have premium channels. Those are the mvoie
> channels with no commericals.

We have them in Europe too. Are yours in widescreen?


> And if you don't have them then you get a free preview for a weekend.
> Like around Christmas you'll get HBO and Thanksgivinig could be
> Showtime. A couple of times we have had "free preview weekend" for more
> than a weekend. They just "forget" to turn it off.

That used to happen in the old days of controlling things by hand,
but not for many years now. It's all fancy automation these days.


> Then we have descrambler boxes where they descramble the channel that is
> fuzzy. Any and all of them. Movie channels to porn! And THOSE are
> illegal. I think thats how most people who get "free" cable do it. I
> don't think anyone really goes out and messes with the wires.

So how did Joey's TV set suddenly start showing porn?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010919113931...@mb-cv.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

>> From: Tennant Stuart ten...@argonet.co.uk

>>> It would be like her to clean the hallway in front of her door.. then


>>> the hallway leading to her door and the stairs which leads to the
>>> hallway that leads to her door since its all connected. But Joey might
>>> have a problem with it. But he does eat off the floor in his apartment
>>> so maybe she does and we just don't know it.

>> So why would Joey object?

> Well he'd object to things not being in "their" place.. Not that the
> floor is clean..

Monica would be able to put things back in place, she's good at stuff
like that. And in any case, Janine did a lot worse than that to his
things, and Joey wasn't too upset.


>>>>> This is me!

>>>> Hi you! :)

>>> Hi. How you doin'?

>> If velvet frogs are female, then I'm doing just fine, baby... ;)

> This velvet frog is female.

He-hey, then I'm doing just fine, baby!


>>>>> What kind of scary ass clowns came to your birthday parties?

>>>> Yes, it should have been ducks are tails, because ducks have tails.

>>> Yes it should have been. But its JOEY!

>> Don't fall for Joey's act, like Chandler does. :)

>> more quietly< but its joey...

He's no genius, and his education is lacking, but he's nowhere as stupid
as so many fans persist in believing. The series is peppered with various
incidents that show this, and Chandler's the one who falls for the act.

CandiGrrl

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"Owen Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<5z5q7.1847$TU5.6...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> > > > >> Hehe! Wish I'd been there!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >A test to see if you are a true fan - do you keep a fork in your
> coat?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No, but I keep a spoon in my handbag. Phoebe keeps a knife in her
> sock,
> > > > >> maybe we've now discovered the *real* reason!
> > > > >
> > > > >It would be hard to eat food off the floor with just a knife....she
> probably
> > > > >has had it since the cop stabbing "incident".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How do we know she doesn't have a fork in there too? Plus if Joey has
> one
> > > > they can share. Rachel ate some cheesecake from Chandler's fork in
> this
> > > ep.
> > >
> > > A fork isn't as flat as a knife and isn't as easy to carry. Also it
> would be
> > > less handy than a knife in an attack.
> >
> > Not necessarily - have you seen 'Slums Of Beverly Hills'?!
>
> No, should I?!

If you want to. Natasha Lyonne stabs somebody in the leg with a fork,
that's all.

I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.

Just like the "I win!" guy!

> >
> > > > >> >Frannie's mother is Aunt Cheryl, and we also met Aunt Millie,
> neither
> > > > >> >of whom have been mentioned before, even though we've heard of
> Aunts
> > > > >> >Lillian, Iris, Phyllis & Sylvia, plus Uncles Edward & Nathan.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Why did Millie insist on kissing her nephew Ross on the lips, but
> > > > >> >totally ignored Monica? Frannie immediately knew who Monica was,
> so
> > > > >> >did Millie not recognise her niece now that she's thin?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Monica probably dated Stuart when she was thin, so he could have
> told
> > > > >> Frannie. However, it's possible that Millie had no idea. After all,
> even
> > > > >> Richard didn't recognise her at first.
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes but Richard hadn't seen her for a long time....a very long
> time.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nor has Aunt Millie.
> > >
> > > Do we know that for certain?
> >
> > No, we don't - but she has never been mentioned or seen before, so I'm
> > guessing that she hasn't seen Thin Monica.
>
> Ok, you win again!

Oh, it feels so good.

> > > > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but was
> she?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was
> peeved
> > > > (such a cool word!)
> > >
> > > I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear word
> and
> > > is socially acceptable-ish.
> >
> > Yeah, and it sounds so nice!
>
> Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!

Hehe, maybe.

> > > > >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way
> into
> her
> > > > >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before meeting
> Stuart?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > > > >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> > > > >
> > > > >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on
> ruining
> > > > >Frannie's day.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't know
> that
> > > > her brother got an invitation.
> > >
> > > I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!
> >
> > Me too. I don't get why she wouldn't have found out who Frannie was
> > marrying though!
> >
> I don't think she cared who she was marrying, she was so intent on
> surprising Frannie.

Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.

> > > > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
> character
> > > > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have not
> > > > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Oh, those critics...
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".
> > >
> > > What is that!?
> >
> > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
>
> Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?

Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the mood,
but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.

> > > > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't
> Phoebe
> > > > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her?
> Didn't
> > > > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little
> bit.
> > > > >
> > > > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
> > >
> > > I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she just
> > > randomly picked it.
> >
> > I know! I'm just picking names too.
>
> Ok Glenda ;)

Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)

> > > > >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as she
> did
> > > > >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew
> about
> > > > >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three* mentions
> of
> > > > >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands for!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's
> yours,
> > > > >> Tennant?
> > > > >>
> > > > >Elsie Elsie!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I quite like that!
> > >
> > > It's the only funny name beginning with E!
> >
> > What about "Esmeralda"?
>
> Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?

That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her Kermit
fetish.

Probably if I told it out loud I could spin it out for about 5 hours.
And I only got to the bit where he was eagerly awaiting her.

> > > > >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts - but
> > > > >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because he
> does
> > > > >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW
> No-one's
> > > > >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's
> fatigues.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> sometimes.
> > > > >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > >I wouldn't want to all the time!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Especially not in winter.
> > >
> > > Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!
> >
> > Sorry!
> >
> Thanks!

We'll never speak of it again...

> > > > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where
> Monica
> > > > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an
> Eggplant";
> > > > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but for
> > > > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > > > >>
> > > > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > She'd more likely just be upset.
> > > >
> > > And screechy!!
> >
> > Crying, more like.
> >
> Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave rubbish
> massages!

Aww, poor Mon!

Don't ask me.

> > > > >> > ---o0o---
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross &
> Phoebe
> > > > >> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross complimenting
> the
> lady
> > > > >> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can these
> compete
> > > > >> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while
> ripping
> his
> > > > >> personality to shreds with Joey...
> > > > >
> > > > >I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)
> > >
> > > Really?
> >
> > Yep, he's a total R&P fan!
>
> Oh no...! R&R forever!

I think that none of them should get together. Not even C&M. I guess I
don't mind R&R though, and I think that J&M would have been nice. More
than one couple is pushing it though.

Maybe he just bought it so that he could melt it down into a really
funky looking bowl.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.4e3e4c4abc...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.0109...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.a4af794abb...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>> You are very kind-hearted.
>
> >>> Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with
> >>> him.
>
> >> Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)
>
> > Lol, you're going to wear me down aren't you?
>
> KHG

WDTM?

> >> Lol yes, I like that, hot-to-trot & loud-with-it Miss Chatracus!
>
> > How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
> > are there some more that we don't know about?
>
> Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with the other
> two further along the corridor, roughly where the studio audience sits.

I figured there might be some more in the audience. Wasn't sure how
many though. :)

> >>>>> Yeah - or else they *will* end up with criminal records!
>
> >>>> Exactly. It's important to know where to stop.
>
> >>> Bad Friends! Bad!
>
> >> Bad bad bad bad bad.
>
> > They're wicked.
>
> Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
> of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.

They're not always that nice.

> >>>>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...
>
> >>>>> When? I don't remember.
>
> >>>> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".
>
> >>> Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!
>
> >> Tolja!
>
> > I completely forgot about that :)
>
> Hehe - and he's not too keen on dust bunnies, either...

He eats them, so I guess he doesn't mind them too much. Dust bunnies
with leg wax. Mmmmmm.

> >>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
> >>>>> there ever was.
>
> >>>> Ooh, lovely! :)
>
> >>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........
>
> >> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................
>
> > I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.
>
> Ooh, thanks sweetie!

Yep, I'll Seran-wrap it up and everything.

> >>>> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.
>
> >>> My friend Sandy does that!
> >>> She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!
>
> >> ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!
>
> > Sandy's in another place.
>
> Another place mentally, or she's passed on?

No, just mentally. You probably don't die from having cheesy hair but
it could be embarrassing.

> >>>>> "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.
>
> >>>> Lol, yes.
>
> >>> I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.
>
> >> Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...
>
> > He would! They should have a musical episode........
>
> Lol, great idea - though it would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.

Yeah, she never sings :(

> >>> Alrighty-roo.
>
> >> Hehe. :)
>
> > I love saying that!
>
> It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)

Aww! And we already have a Joey!

> >>>>>>>> Jack & Judy were supposed to be at the wedding. Why didn't we see
> >>>>>>>> them?
>
> >>>>>>> Maybe they were invited but couldn't go?
>
> >>>>>> That's a good idea - maybe Monica could have gone as her mother...
>
> >>>>> In disguise?!
>
> >>>> Yes!
>
> >>> In the Princess Leia costume?
>
> >> Lol! No, but you're making me think about it...
>
> > If she *really* wanted to ruin Frannie's wedding, that's what she
> > should have done. That, or worn a wedding dress. I actually know
> > somebody whose cousin turned up at her wedding wearing her own
> > wedding dress. That's so horrible!
>
> That was Monica's original plan - in the full-length version on DVD,
> just before Phoebe notices David at Central Perk, this happens...
>
> MONICA: Do you think it's inappropriate to wear a white lacy
> dress to a wedding?
>
> PHOEBE: Yes!
>
> MONICA: Excellent.

Ooh, freaky! I'm on the same wavelength!

> ..there's also more at Iridium, and much more about broad-backed girls,
> plus we find out that Chandler's cousin Glenn was indeed a boy...
>
> JOEY: I think she's trying to pull a fast one on Big Daddy! Now, if
> you'll excuse me... (he starts to take off his pants again)
>
> CHANDLER: Dude, dude! If I took off my pants right now, how would
> you feel?
>
> JOEY: Like your cousin Glenn.
>
>
> ..but the only new stuff about Stuart was this...
>
> MONICA: Oh wait, I forgot my wrap.
>
> ROSS: Oh, I'll wait here for you.
>
> MONICA: I can't go back there!
>
> ROSS: Why?
>
> MONICA: Did you see the way Stuart was staring at me? I think he
> still wants me.
>
> ROSS: Oh my god!
>
> MONICA: Just go do it.
>
> ROSS: What? Oh, okay. Wait here.

I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)

> >> Does the newer movie come anywhere near capturing the book?
>
> > Yes, actually. It's v. good.
>
> Oh.
>
>
>
> >>>>>>> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> >>>>>>> ex-best-friend was marrying!
>
> >>>>>> I know!!! Wasn't it on all the invitations?
>
> >>>>> Well it would be. Ross probably would have known that Monica had a
> >>>>> thing with Stuart, and he could have told her that it might explain
> >>>>> why she wasn't invited.
>
> >>>> So why didn't he tell her?
>
> >>> Because it would have messed up the storyline. (Same old, same old!)
>
> >> Yes, I'm afraid you're right, it was weak writing.
>
> > Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy or
> > something?
>
> Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.

I don't think it was ever in it, I just thought that might explain it
better.

> >>>>>>> Oh, those critics...
>
> >>>>>> Sigh. Yes.
>
> >>>>> Never mind.
>
> >>>> :)
>
> >>> They'll never beat the true fans!
>
> >> All hands to the barricades!
>
> > We have Chandlerisms! We have T-shirts with the Friends logo on them!
> > We have MP3s of Smelly Cat! We will never surrender!!!!!
>
> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!

And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!

> >>>>>> I like "Ellen", but my two favourites are "Esther" & "Emily".
>
> >>>>> Hehe, okay. I have a list somewhere of what people betted was her
> >>>>> middle name. Want me to dig it out?
>
> >>>> Yes please.
>
> >>> Okay I'll find it tonight.
>
> >> And?
>
> > Oops, forgot. I went to my English class instead and learned about
> > apostrophes. I have a feeling that I already knew about them.
>
> Apostrophes rule!

Y'e's', t'h'e'y t'o't'a'l'l'y d'o'!

> >>>> So romantic...
>
> >>> Yeah, it really is...
>
> >> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)
>
> > Awww... maybe this time for good.
>
> Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...

He always has just 2 hours left or something. Sniff...

> >>>> They could go to Allesandro's, since the gang never dines there.
>
> >>> Yes, they should have!
>
> >> And as long as they don't send the chicken back because it's too dry!
>
> > They wouldn't order chicken - Joey just eats the skin!
>
> That's why Allesandro's is so perfect!

Yay!

> >>>> Lol, and what would she do to Joey?
>
> >>> Be pissed because he's the only one who hasn't caused her horrible
> >>> harm in some way, and rather than date her he chose to date her sister!
>
> >> Yeah, but that was Julia's sister, not Susie's sister.
>
> > Might have been Susie's sister too.
>
> Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?

They don't really have much together, but from what they do, they
could be sisters. Of course, that could be because Julia and Lisa are
sisters...

> > Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!
>
> You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!

She's in "I Love Trouble" too but she doesn't have any lines, and she
was just Lisa Roberts then.

> > Nor does Eric.
>
> He's a guy... ;)

Well, you know what I mean.

> >> Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you
> >> mean about their voices, except that none of the others are in the same
> >> league as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing would be
> >> nice...
>
> > Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?
>
> No, the only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.

I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!

> > I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could talk
> > like that!
>
> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?

The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
movie.

> >>>>>>> Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while ripping
> >>>>>>> his personality to shreds with Joey...
>
> >>>>>> That looks like his motive, but on the other hand maybe it was an
> >>>>>> opportunity to admit his admiration under the cover of sucking up.
>
> >>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
>
> >>>> Exactly.
>
> >>> Sorry!
>
> >> Why "sorry"? I thought you were agreeing with me?
>
> > No, I disagreed. I don't think he was admitting anything.
>
> Oh.

...Sorry!

> >> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.
>
> > Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!
>
> Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...

She won't - but she'd better not take Richard there. Those cigars...
shudder.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <%y5q7.1845$TU5.6...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
>>>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?

>>>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky
>>>>> or something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.

>>>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.

>>> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.

>> It doesn't sound like a Sky show.

> How can it not sound like a sky show?!

I dunno... just doesn't.


>>>>> Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some
>>>>> sort of database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so
>>>>> much time trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've
>>>>> forgotten.

>>>> You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
>>>> into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.

>>> That's what I guessed you did....then do you search the whole text file?

>> That's how I started.

> There's more?!!

Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(


>>>>> Scott Mills (I think it was him) yesterday, when he was talking to
>>>>> the girl who won the goodies was saying how it has improved this
>>>>> season and how they kinda lost is last season.

>>>> I reckon that S6 was better overall than S1, S3, S4 or S5.

>>> Really? U mean consistency-wise?

>> I rated each episode as a hit or a miss, and the seasons ended like this...

>> S-1 58%
>> S-2 79%
>> S-3 60%
>> S-4 58%
>> S-5 54%
>> S-6 64%
>> S-7 67%

> Wow, I must say I agree with you about season 2, but I'm not sure
> that 6 was better than 5 and 4.

That's because you're remembering Elle Macpherson & screechy Monica.

But there was also all the signs for Chandler & Monica, Phoebe banging
on the cab roof, Ross dragging Chandler back to the negotiating table,
Phoebe predicting the future, Rachel's Indian accent, the triple team,
all the consummating bunnies, the boy diving into the boxes, the three
guys running for the door, Phoebe desperately trying to keep the peace
as the two girls fight, the end of an era, the thongs in the bathroom,
the beef trifle, Judy Geller summing up, Ross & Monica's weird dance
routine, Joey donning his dumb persona in the Gents, Chandler QEDly
banging his heels on the table, the three girls using their imagination
about the porn, Phoebe pulling a live goldfish and a running shoe with
an egg from her purse, Phoebe counting everyone present, Inspect Her
Gadget, Joey realising it's Ursula, Ross & Rachel gently kicking each
other, Monica tipping up the sofa and Chandler making out with a sofa,
Phoebe's heart attack, Monica shaking her booty, Rachel adoring Joey,
what the sock bunny saw, fake Joey raiding Monica's fridge, Janice's
unexpected voice, Joey's days of the week, it's taboo, where Joey keeps
the napkin, Rachel talking Ross down and not up with Paul, Ross snakily
swimming through the air, Paul's self-pep talk, Phoebe taking Chandler
in hand, Phoebe in the little jail between the doors, Elizabeth's water
balloon fight, Monica in that red dress, Rachel trying to get rid of
the boat, the big tree, the bleak moment when Joey told Chandler that
all was lost, the candle just inside the door, and Monica's proposal.


>>>>> Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....

>>>> Look them up on the internet.

>>> Will do ;)

>> And?

> Nope....nothing.....maybe it's Mamma's not Momma's?

I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".


>>>> Well, *that* is screechy.

>>> Yes I suppose "I JUST WROTE YOU A LETTER FROM THE BEYOND!" is!

>> Yeah, and "NO YOU ROBOT"

> Lol, I thought that episode was a good season 6 episode.

So did I, but because of Ross & Jill, and Buffay the Vampire Layer.

>>>>> Screechy reminds me of owls!

>>>> This is true. :)

>>> lol, I get loads where I live!

>> Barns & Tawnies?

> Not so many Barns, lots and lots of Tawnies and some screech....It's
> quite scary when I'm on the net late at night and they're screeching!

I know what you mean. What about hedgehogs paying trains?


>>>> Wait & see...

>>> Meaning?!

>> Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.

> ah....under what banner can you? (email me if you wanna be extra sure!)

On the grounds that anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled won't follow
this thread back to see what we're talking about, I'll tell you. S7-15.


>> Maths is very easy, and neat fun.

> No...no....err no! I'm ok with basic algebra but things like radians
> and that are ich.

What? Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)


>>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
>>> have very short relationships

>> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.

> Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and dissapear without
> mention, especially Joey's!

Joey's boyfriends?


>>> I hope they rebuild it...they were such amazing buildings...

>> They could do 3 medium sized buildings, and one tall building, which


>> would be the second from the left in a line of four...

> I think most's New Yorkers would like to see the same buildings rebuilt
> in an act of defiance, maybe even taller though to say "F*** You" to
> terrorism, that is depending on what happens in the near future.

That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...


>>>> "Picture Perfect" was dreadful, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".

>>> I thought that was just as bad?!

>> It's nothing compared with "Picture Perfect"!

> lol, I was half asleep when I saw picture perfect, one of my friends has
> seen it 12 times though! I missed lost in space on BBC the other week. My
> friend said it wasn't worth seeing.

Well, see "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.


>>>>>>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.

>>>>>> That would be far too neat, without any loose ends.

>>>>> Yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be very realistic....but Friends


>>>>> isn't that realistic anyway!

>>>> It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.

>>> Well doesn't being too neat does make it unrealistic?

>> No, because it's unrealistic anyway.

> Artistic License! (this is getting confusing!)

Yes, but I'm objecting to C&M + R&R + J&P on artistic grounds.


>>>>> They showed an interview with the three guys around 1996 (MP


>>>>> was thin so I guessed that) I think the interviewer was that
>>>>> woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I can't remember...
>>>>> have you seen it?

>>>> That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
>>>> which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.

>>> Why did MP look so thin then? Was it me? Did you see the interview?

>> I've seen the interview, but I'm not sure about when it was recorded.

> I'm sure it was between seasons 3 and 4, or before, he did look very thin
> to me. Also David's hair was similar to his at the start of season 4.

That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight in the
hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no hoopla.


>> Did Mel & Sue talk about "Friends"?

> Urm yeah I think they just sang a bit of the theme tune and talked about
> the shag but they mostly commented on other stuff. They did interview
> one of the original writers (Jeff Greensomething?)

That's Jeff Greenstein, who worked with Jeff Strauss. They wrote...

105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent"
109 "TOW Underdog Gets Away"
115 "TOW the Stoned Guy"
123 "TOW the Birth"

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In article <20010919164808...@mb-dd.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

>> From: Tennant Stuart ten...@argonet.co.uk

>>>>> It would be like her to clean the hallway in front of her door..
>>>>> then the hallway leading to her door and the stairs which leads to
>>>>> the hallway that leads to her door since its all connected. But Joey
>>>>> might have a problem with it. But he does eat off the floor in his
>>>>> apartment so maybe she does and we just don't know it.

>>>> So why would Joey object?

>>> Well he'd object to things not being in "their" place.. Not that the
>>> floor is clean..

>> Monica would be able to put things back in place, she's good at stuff
>> like that. And in any case, Janine did a lot worse than that to his
>> things, and Joey wasn't too upset.

> But she isn't like Monica. And all she did really was give him clean
> towels and pillowcases! And made him a little feminine.

She took away his dartboard, and put up a picture of a 'famous' baby.


>>> This is me!

>>>>>> Hi you! :)

>>>>> Hi. How you doin'?

>>>> If velvet frogs are female, then I'm doing just fine, baby... ;)

>>> This velvet frog is female.

>> He-hey, then I'm doing just fine, baby!

> Thats great then!

And you?


>>>>>> What kind of scary ass clowns came to your birthday parties?

>>>>>> Yes, it should have been ducks are tails, because ducks have tails.

>>>>> Yes it should have been. But its JOEY!

>>>> Don't fall for Joey's act, like Chandler does. :)

>>>> more quietly< but its joey...

>> He's no genius, and his education is lacking, but he's nowhere as stupid
>> as so many fans persist in believing. The series is peppered with various
>> incidents that show this, and Chandler's the one who falls for the act.

> I think the writers have been making him "wiser" over the years. His
> stupid moments aren't that many IMO.

Joey was wise from the beginning - he does it twice in the pilot
episode - counselling Ross on how to get over Carol, and advising
Monica on how she foolishly fell for Paul's line.


Velvet Frogg- Nervous about the radio right now..

Why?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01091...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.4e3e4c4abc...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>>>> You are very kind-hearted.

>>>>> Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with
>>>>> him.

>>>> Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)

>>> Lol, you're going to wear me down aren't you?

>> KHG

> WDTM?

I'd just said "kind-hearted" twice, and you know what "G" means. :)


>>> How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
>>> are there some more that we don't know about?

>> Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with
>> the other two further along the corridor, roughly where the
>> studio audience sits.

> I figured there might be some more in the audience. Wasn't sure how
> many though. :)

Indeed. There's only one floor above Monica, which means about 24
apartments in the building. When originally built, there would have
been only one or maybe two apartments per floor - we know that #19
and #20 were originally all in one. When we see other floors (apart
from the lobby) they usually look the same (since they redress the
set) but when Mr.Heckles died there were three doors marked #6, #7,
and #8 at the end of a blind corridor, which is presumably what the
audience end looks like. Unfortunately, Heckles lived below Monica,
and their balconies line up, (S1-16), so that can't be the case.


>>> They're wicked.

>> Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
>> of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.

> They're not always that nice.

They are compared with "Seinfeld".


>>>>>>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...

>>>>>>> When? I don't remember.

>>>>>> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".

>>>>> Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!

>>>> Tolja!

>>> I completely forgot about that :)

>> Hehe - and he's not too keen on dust bunnies, either...

> He eats them, so I guess he doesn't mind them too much. Dust bunnies
> with leg wax. Mmmmmm.

Monica, Phoebe & Chandler ate the wax too. Joey copes of course, but
he still hid proper food under Monica's bed so that he would not have
to eat wax again.


>>>>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>>>>>>> there ever was.

>>>>>> Ooh, lovely! :)

>>>>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........

>>>> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................

>>> I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.

>> Ooh, thanks sweetie!

> Yep, I'll Seran-wrap it up and everything.

Yay!


>>>>>> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.

>>>>> My friend Sandy does that!
>>>>> She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!

>>>> ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!

>>> Sandy's in another place.

>> Another place mentally, or she's passed on?

> No, just mentally. You probably don't die from having cheesy hair but
> it could be embarrassing.

Ewwww....


>>>>>>> "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.

>>>>>> Lol, yes.

>>>>> I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.

>>>> Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...

>>> He would! They should have a musical episode........

>> Lol, great idea - though it would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.

> Yeah, she never sings :(

I know. :(


>>>>> Alrighty-roo.

>>>> Hehe. :)

>>> I love saying that!

>> It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)

> Aww! And we already have a Joey!

ROTFL!!! Yes!


>>> If she *really* wanted to ruin Frannie's wedding, she should have worn


>>> a wedding dress. I actually know somebody whose cousin turned up at
>>> her wedding wearing her own wedding dress. That's so horrible!

>> That was Monica's original plan - in the full-length version on DVD,
>> just before Phoebe notices David at Central Perk, this happens...

>> MONICA: Do you think it's inappropriate to wear a white lacy
>> dress to a wedding?

>> PHOEBE: Yes!

>> MONICA: Excellent.

> Ooh, freaky! I'm on the same wavelength!

Hehe - I think we'd already come to that conclusion. :)


> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)

You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.


>>> Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy or
>>> something?

>> Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.

> I don't think it was ever in it, I just thought that might explain it
> better.

Oh, for sure.

>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!

> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!

The mind boggles...


>> Apostrophes rule!

> Y'e's', t'h'e'y t'o't'a'l'l'y d'o'!

Trés jolie.


>>>>>> So romantic...

>>>>> Yeah, it really is...

>>>> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)

>>> Awww... maybe this time for good.

>> Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...

> He always has just 2 hours left or something. Sniff...

Well, at least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.


>>> Might have been Susie's sister too.

>> Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?

> They don't really have much together, but from what they do, they
> could be sisters. Of course, that could be because Julia and Lisa
> are sisters...

Yeah, so you're not sure.


>>> Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!

>> You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!

> She's in "I Love Trouble" too but she doesn't have any lines, and she
> was just Lisa Roberts then.

Indeed, it's only in "Runaway Bride" that she was credited as LRG.

>>>> Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you
>>>> mean about their voices, except that none of the others are in the
>>>> same league as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing
>>>> would be nice...

>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?

>> No, the only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.

> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!

Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.


>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could talk
>>> like that!

>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?

> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
> movie.

Ah-hah...


>>>> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.

>>> Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!

>> Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...

> She won't - but she'd better not take Richard there. Those cigars...
> shudder.

If he can give them up for Monica he can give them up for Janice.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010919165009...@mb-dd.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

>> From: Tennant Stuart ten...@argonet.co.uk

>>> We (in South Florida at least) have premium channels. Those are the
>>> mvoie channels with no commericals.

>> We have them in Europe too. Are yours in widescreen?

> Wide screen? No idea.

If you did have it, you'd know what I was talking about. The pictures are
specially enhanced horizontally, for viewing on a wide rectangular TV.


>>> And if you don't have them then you get a free preview for a weekend.
>>> Like around Christmas you'll get HBO and Thanksgivinig could be
>>> Showtime. A couple of times we have had "free preview weekend" for more
>>> than a weekend. They just "forget" to turn it off.

>> That used to happen in the old days of controlling things by hand,
>> but not for many years now. It's all fancy automation these days.

> Yeah. And we don't get many previews either!

Oh, some of our movie channels do that during each daytime.


>> So how did Joey's TV set suddenly start showing porn?

> I don't know! I'm not in NY! I'm about 2000 miles south of him! And it
> was in the girl's apt.. Maybe they had porn and then realized the guys
> were now using it and had it turned off! And they just didn't want to
> tell anyone!

Oh, *what* an interesting theory! :)

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>
> >>>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
> >>>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?
>
> >>>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky
> >>>>> or something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
> >>>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.
>
> >>> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.
>
> >> It doesn't sound like a Sky show.
>
> > How can it not sound like a sky show?!
>
> I dunno... just doesn't.

Lol, ok I accept, but can you find out what channel carries it?


>
>
> >>>>> Yeah u can't beat interactivity. I wish I had the time to do some
> >>>>> sort of database...it would be such a handy thing. It would save so
> >>>>> much time trawling through episodes trying to find stuff I've
> >>>>> forgotten.
>
> >>>> You can start off by downloading the transcripts, and making them all
> >>>> into one big text file, but beware that there are some errors.
>
> >>> That's what I guessed you did....then do you search the whole text
file?
>
> >> That's how I started.
>
> > There's more?!!
>
> Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(

Ok, I'll take your advice and stay clear. I suppose the biggest risk is
losing all the data....or is it?!

Was that all from your head?! I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the
worst ever but the rest were all funny. I just watched 712 and it was
fantastic.

>
>
> >>>>> Do you think that Momma's Litlle Bakery exists?.....
>
> >>>> Look them up on the internet.
>
> >>> Will do ;)
>
> >> And?
>
> > Nope....nothing.....maybe it's Mamma's not Momma's?
>
> I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
> 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
> of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
> television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".

Damn you, DAMN YOU ALL!! ;)


>
>
> >>>> Well, *that* is screechy.
>
> >>> Yes I suppose "I JUST WROTE YOU A LETTER FROM THE BEYOND!" is!
>
> >> Yeah, and "NO YOU ROBOT"
>
> > Lol, I thought that episode was a good season 6 episode.
>
> So did I, but because of Ross & Jill, and Buffay the Vampire Layer.

I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title of a porn
film.


>
>
>
> >>>>> Screechy reminds me of owls!
>
> >>>> This is true. :)
>
> >>> lol, I get loads where I live!
>
> >> Barns & Tawnies?
>
> > Not so many Barns, lots and lots of Tawnies and some screech....It's
> > quite scary when I'm on the net late at night and they're screeching!
>
> I know what you mean. What about hedgehogs paying trains?

Have you been drinking?


>
>
> >>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>> Meaning?!
>
> >> Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.
>
> > ah....under what banner can you? (email me if you wanna be extra sure!)
>
> On the grounds that anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled won't follow
> this thread back to see what we're talking about, I'll tell you. S7-15.

Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.


>
>
> >> Maths is very easy, and neat fun.
>
> > No...no....err no! I'm ok with basic algebra but things like radians
> > and that are ich.
>
> What? Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)

Ahhh stop it! I havnt even got that far yet! Still on the old Feta, radius
and area working out!


>
>
> >>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
> >>> have very short relationships
>
> >> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.
>
> > Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and dissapear without
> > mention, especially Joey's!
>
> Joey's boyfriends?

Sorry girlfriends/boyfriends, I was thinking Monica aswell!


>
>
> >>> I hope they rebuild it...they were such amazing buildings...
>
> >> They could do 3 medium sized buildings, and one tall building, which
> >> would be the second from the left in a line of four...
>
> > I think most's New Yorkers would like to see the same buildings rebuilt
> > in an act of defiance, maybe even taller though to say "F*** You" to
> > terrorism, that is depending on what happens in the near future.
>
> That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...

Ahhhh I finally get it! I think that would be going a bit ott. Funilly
enough I did find a picture of what it would look like, if u wanna see it, I
can find it again.


>
>
> >>>> "Picture Perfect" was dreadful, I'd rather watch "Lost in Space".
>
> >>> I thought that was just as bad?!
>
> >> It's nothing compared with "Picture Perfect"!
>
> > lol, I was half asleep when I saw picture perfect, one of my friends has
> > seen it 12 times though! I missed lost in space on BBC the other week.
My
> > friend said it wasn't worth seeing.
>
> Well, see "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.

But I was asking for your humble opinion!


>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Having C&M, R&R and J&P would be too much.
>
> >>>>>> That would be far too neat, without any loose ends.
>
> >>>>> Yeah I totally agree it wouldn't be very realistic....but Friends
> >>>>> isn't that realistic anyway!
>
> >>>> It isn't a question of realism, but of being too neat.
>
> >>> Well doesn't being too neat does make it unrealistic?
>
> >> No, because it's unrealistic anyway.
>
> > Artistic License! (this is getting confusing!)
>
> Yes, but I'm objecting to C&M + R&R + J&P on artistic grounds.

Yeah me too, maybe C&M and R&R but no way J&P, they have Kate and the
scientist guy.


>
>
> >>>>> They showed an interview with the three guys around 1996 (MP
> >>>>> was thin so I guessed that) I think the interviewer was that
> >>>>> woman....err Gabby something or I dunno I can't remember...
> >>>>> have you seen it?
>
> >>>> That would be Gaby Roslin, which I think was at the end of Season 4,
> >>>> which means April 1998. MP was thin in the first half of 1997.
>
> >>> Why did MP look so thin then? Was it me? Did you see the interview?
>
> >> I've seen the interview, but I'm not sure about when it was recorded.
>
> > I'm sure it was between seasons 3 and 4, or before, he did look very
thin
> > to me. Also David's hair was similar to his at the start of season 4.
>
> That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight in the
> hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no hoopla.
>

There's not gonna be a hoopla?


>
> >> Did Mel & Sue talk about "Friends"?
>
> > Urm yeah I think they just sang a bit of the theme tune and talked about
> > the shag but they mostly commented on other stuff. They did interview
> > one of the original writers (Jeff Greensomething?)
>
> That's Jeff Greenstein, who worked with Jeff Strauss. They wrote...
>
> 105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent"
> 109 "TOW Underdog Gets Away"
> 115 "TOW the Stoned Guy"
> 123 "TOW the Birth"
>

> I presume their brilliant writing is absent from the show now?

Owen

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Lol, interesting.....I wouldn't mind seeing that actually......

Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.

I'm sure your not that bad!

Don't rub it in!


>
> > > > > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but
was
> > she?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was
> > peeved
> > > > > (such a cool word!)
> > > >
> > > > I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear
word
> > and
> > > > is socially acceptable-ish.
> > >
> > > Yeah, and it sounds so nice!
> >
> > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
>
> Hehe, maybe.

Especially in school!


>
> > > > > >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way
> > into
> > her
> > > > > >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before
meeting
> > Stuart?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > > > > >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on
> > ruining
> > > > > >Frannie's day.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't
know
> > that
> > > > > her brother got an invitation.
> > > >
> > > > I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!
> > >
> > > Me too. I don't get why she wouldn't have found out who Frannie was
> > > marrying though!
> > >
> > I don't think she cared who she was marrying, she was so intent on
> > surprising Frannie.
>
> Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.

Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"


>
> > > > > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
> > character
> > > > > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have
not
> > > > > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Oh, those critics...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".
> > > >
> > > > What is that!?
> > >
> > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> >
> > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
>
> Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the mood,
> but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.

Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!


>
> > > > > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't
> > Phoebe
> > > > > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her?
> > Didn't
> > > > > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little
> > bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
> > > >
> > > > I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she
just
> > > > randomly picked it.
> > >
> > > I know! I'm just picking names too.
> >
> > Ok Glenda ;)
>
> Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
>

Fun! Gertrude


> > > > > >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as
she
> > did
> > > > > >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew
> > about
> > > > > >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three*
mentions
> > of
> > > > > >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands
for!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's
> > yours,
> > > > > >> Tennant?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >Elsie Elsie!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I quite like that!
> > > >
> > > > It's the only funny name beginning with E!
> > >
> > > What about "Esmeralda"?
> >
> > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
>
> That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her Kermit
> fetish.
>

Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!

Ah...please don't then!


>
> > > > > >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts -
but
> > > > > >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because
he
> > does
> > > > > >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW
> > No-one's
> > > > > >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's
> > fatigues.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> > sometimes.
> > > > > >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I wouldn't want to all the time!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Especially not in winter.
> > > >
> > > > Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!
> > >
> > > Sorry!
> > >
> > Thanks!
>
> We'll never speak of it again...

Never....some things that have been said can never be repeated....


>
> > > > > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where
> > Monica
> > > > > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an
> > Eggplant";
> > > > > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but
for
> > > > > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > She'd more likely just be upset.
> > > > >
> > > > And screechy!!
> > >
> > > Crying, more like.
> > >
> > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave rubbish
> > massages!
>
> Aww, poor Mon!

Well she deserves it for being cocky!

Lol, ok, I only know one person like that and it's because they smoke....but
I believ the nodules1


>
> > > > > >> > ---o0o---
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >What price now, our hopes for an eventual romance between Ross
&
> > Phoebe
> > > > > >> >or Joey & Phoebe? There were welcome hints - Ross
complimenting
> > the
> > lady
> > > > > >> >on her beauty or Joey warmly comforting her - but how can
these
> > compete
> > > > > >> >with that desperate passion torturing Phoebe's soul?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Anyway, Ross only complimented her so that she'd be kind while
> > ripping
> > his
> > > > > >> personality to shreds with Joey...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I don't think Ross and Phoebe is any sort of an option.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope it's not, but Tennant is adamant :)
> > > >
> > > > Really?
> > >
> > > Yep, he's a total R&P fan!
> >
> > Oh no...! R&R forever!
>
> I think that none of them should get together. Not even C&M. I guess I
> don't mind R&R though, and I think that J&M would have been nice. More
> than one couple is pushing it though.

I think 2 at the end is enough and pushing it.

Yeah, isn't it records they do that with?

Owen


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>In article <77c0196c.01091...@posting.google.com>,
>Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
>> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:<na.4e3e4c4abc...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
>>>>>>> You are very kind-hearted.
>
>>>>>> Maybe, maybe not - I just don't see anything particularly wrong with
>>>>>> him.
>
>>>>> Ooh, a chink in Mari's armour - *maybe* she is kind-hearted... :)
>
>>>> Lol, you're going to wear me down aren't you?
>
>>> KHG
>
>> WDTM?
>
>I'd just said "kind-hearted" twice, and you know what "G" means. :)


SIS.

>>>> How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
>>>> are there some more that we don't know about?
>
>>> Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with
>>> the other two further along the corridor, roughly where the
>>> studio audience sits.
>
>> I figured there might be some more in the audience. Wasn't sure how
>> many though. :)
>
>Indeed. There's only one floor above Monica, which means about 24
>apartments in the building. When originally built, there would have
>been only one or maybe two apartments per floor - we know that #19
>and #20 were originally all in one. When we see other floors (apart
>from the lobby) they usually look the same (since they redress the
>set) but when Mr.Heckles died there were three doors marked #6, #7,
>and #8 at the end of a blind corridor, which is presumably what the
>audience end looks like. Unfortunately, Heckles lived below Monica,
>and their balconies line up, (S1-16), so that can't be the case.


We probably shouldn't think about it too much :)

>>>> They're wicked.
>
>>> Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
>>> of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.
>
>> They're not always that nice.
>
>They are compared with "Seinfeld".


I saw that last night!! I've only ever seen it about three times in my whole
life, they show it at such weird hours.

>>>>>>>>> Well, he doesn't seem to like roast chicken either, sometimes...
>
>>>>>>>> When? I don't remember.
>
>>>>>>> Check out the end of 509 "TOW Ross's Sandwich".
>
>>>>>> Oh yes! That's right! He just ate the skin!
>
>>>>> Tolja!
>
>>>> I completely forgot about that :)
>
>>> Hehe - and he's not too keen on dust bunnies, either...
>
>> He eats them, so I guess he doesn't mind them too much. Dust bunnies
>> with leg wax. Mmmmmm.
>
>Monica, Phoebe & Chandler ate the wax too. Joey copes of course, but
>he still hid proper food under Monica's bed so that he would not have
>to eat wax again.


Yeah, but when he was eating the wax he seemed to be enjoying it. Maybe he
was just still hungry afterwards... if it had been that bad he would have
lost his appetite.

>>>>>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>>>>>>>> there ever was.
>
>>>>>>> Ooh, lovely! :)
>
>>>>>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........
>
>>>>> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................
>
>>>> I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.
>
>>> Ooh, thanks sweetie!
>
>> Yep, I'll Seran-wrap it up and everything.
>
>Yay!


I haven't made any in ages. I've probably lost the magic :(

>>>>>>> My fork came in handy once when I lost my comb.
>
>>>>>> My friend Sandy does that!
>>>>>> She combed macaroni cheese through her hair once!
>
>>>>> ROTFL!! You've gotta lick yer fork off first!!!
>
>>>> Sandy's in another place.
>
>>> Another place mentally, or she's passed on?
>
>> No, just mentally. You probably don't die from having cheesy hair but
>> it could be embarrassing.
>
>Ewwww....


My hair smells of Parma Violets.

>>>>>>>> "You need the fear"/"Fortunata Fashions" sounds like a song.
>
>>>>>>> Lol, yes.
>
>>>>>> I can so imagine Joey rapping that out.
>
>>>>> Oh I know, he'd be brilliant...
>
>>>> He would! They should have a musical episode........
>
>>> Lol, great idea - though it would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.
>
>> Yeah, she never sings :(
>
>I know. :(


Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Why won't you sing for us?

>>>>>> Alrighty-roo.
>
>>>>> Hehe. :)
>
>>>> I love saying that!
>
>>> It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)
>
>> Aww! And we already have a Joey!
>
>ROTFL!!! Yes!


What animals would the others be, based on their names?

>>>> If she *really* wanted to ruin Frannie's wedding, she should have worn
>>>> a wedding dress. I actually know somebody whose cousin turned up at
>>>> her wedding wearing her own wedding dress. That's so horrible!
>
>>> That was Monica's original plan - in the full-length version on DVD,
>>> just before Phoebe notices David at Central Perk, this happens...
>
>>> MONICA: Do you think it's inappropriate to wear a white lacy
>>> dress to a wedding?
>
>>> PHOEBE: Yes!
>
>>> MONICA: Excellent.
>
>> Ooh, freaky! I'm on the same wavelength!
>
>Hehe - I think we'd already come to that conclusion. :)


Oh, that's right.

>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)
>
>You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.


Can't wait!

>>>> Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy or
>>>> something?
>
>>> Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.
>
>> I don't think it was ever in it, I just thought that might explain it
>> better.
>
>Oh, for sure.


They could probably have found a way around it, but nm.

>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!
>
>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!
>
>The mind boggles...


I hoped it would.

>>> Apostrophes rule!
>
>> Y'e's', t'h'e'y t'o't'a'l'l'y d'o'!
>
>Trés jolie.


Oui, je sais.

>>>>>>> So romantic...
>
>>>>>> Yeah, it really is...
>
>>>>> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)
>
>>>> Awww... maybe this time for good.
>
>>> Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...
>
>> He always has just 2 hours left or something. Sniff...
>
>Well, at least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.


Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the rim of
the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't have to go
back!

>>>> Might have been Susie's sister too.
>
>>> Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?
>
>> They don't really have much together, but from what they do, they
>> could be sisters. Of course, that could be because Julia and Lisa
>> are sisters...
>
>Yeah, so you're not sure.


No. I just made it up.

>>>> Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!
>
>>> You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!
>
>> She's in "I Love Trouble" too but she doesn't have any lines, and she
>> was just Lisa Roberts then.
>
>Indeed, it's only in "Runaway Bride" that she was credited as LRG.


And it doesn't fit on the screen.

>>>>> Apart from Joey Lauren Adams whom I don't really know, I see what you
>>>>> mean about their voices, except that none of the others are in the
>>>>> same league as Jennifer Tilly. Mind you, a Sophie & Jasmine thing
>>>>> would be nice...
>
>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?
>
>>> No, the only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.
>
>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!
>
>Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.


No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.

>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could talk
>>>> like that!
>
>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?
>
>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>> movie.
>
>Ah-hah...


Which do you prefer then?

>>>>> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.
>
>>>> Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!
>
>>> Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...
>
>> She won't - but she'd better not take Richard there. Those cigars...
>> shudder.
>
>If he can give them up for Monica he can give them up for Janice.


He might still be pining for Monica, the way she pines for him and the way
that Janice pines for the Mattress King - although now that she's a
millionaire she doesn't need to buy discount mattresses and can avoid seeing
him.


Tennant Stuart

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In article <OBrq7.3169$ua3.7...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
>>>>>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?

>>>>>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky
>>>>>>> or something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.

>>>>>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.

>>>>> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.

>>>> It doesn't sound like a Sky show.

>>> How can it not sound like a sky show?!

>> I dunno... just doesn't.

> Lol, ok I accept, but can you find out what channel carries it?

I think it was Channel 5.


>> Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(

> Ok, I'll take your advice and stay clear. I suppose the biggest risk is
> losing all the data....or is it?!

No, you back up your data. The risk is that you spend too much time
messing with it, which is why there's lots of things I'd like to do
with the database but I've resisted the temptation - so far.


>> But there was also all the signs for Chandler & Monica, Phoebe banging
>> on the cab roof, Ross dragging Chandler back to the negotiating table,
>> Phoebe predicting the future, Rachel's Indian accent, the triple team,
>> all the consummating bunnies, the boy diving into the boxes, the three
>> guys running for the door, Phoebe desperately trying to keep the peace
>> as the two girls fight, the end of an era, the thongs in the bathroom,
>> the beef trifle, Judy Geller summing up, Ross & Monica's weird dance
>> routine, Joey donning his dumb persona in the Gents, Chandler QEDly
>> banging his heels on the table, the three girls using their imagination
>> about the porn, Phoebe pulling a live goldfish and a running shoe with
>> an egg from her purse, Phoebe counting everyone present, Inspect Her
>> Gadget, Joey realising it's Ursula, Ross & Rachel gently kicking each
>> other, Monica tipping up the sofa and Chandler making out with a sofa,
>> Phoebe's heart attack, Monica shaking her booty, Rachel adoring Joey,
>> what the sock bunny saw, fake Joey raiding Monica's fridge, Janice's
>> unexpected voice, Joey's days of the week, it's taboo, where Joey keeps
>> the napkin, Rachel talking Ross down and not up with Paul, Ross snakily
>> swimming through the air, Paul's self-pep talk, Phoebe taking Chandler
>> in hand, Phoebe in the little jail between the doors, Elizabeth's water
>> balloon fight, Monica in that red dress, Rachel trying to get rid of
>> the boat, the big tree, the bleak moment when Joey told Chandler that
>> all was lost, the candle just inside the door, and Monica's proposal.

> Was that all from your head?!

:)


> I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the worst ever

Oh no, there have been far worse (the hand twin to name but one) and it
was worth it for the look on Chandler & Monica's faces when it seemed
that Joey had undergone a mysterious transformation.


> but the rest were all funny.

See? Six was a good season!


> I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.

Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.


>> I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
>> 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
>> of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
>> television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".

> Damn you, DAMN YOU ALL!! ;)

Grin.


>> Buffay the Vampire Layer.

> I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title of a
> porn film.

They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
and directed by Jack Stephen.


>> I know what you mean. What about hedgehogs paying trains?

> Have you been drinking?

Don't you know about hedgehogs?


>>>>>> Wait & see...

>>>>> Meaning?!

>>>> Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.

>>> ah....under what banner can you?

>> On the grounds that anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled won't follow


>> this thread back to see what we're talking about, I'll tell you. S7-15.

> Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.

The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?


>>>> Maths is very easy, and neat fun.

>>> No...no....err no! I'm ok with basic algebra but things like radians
>>> and that are ich.

>> What? Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)

> Ahhh stop it! I havnt even got that far yet! Still on the old Feta, radius
> and area working out!

Oh, just wait until you begin hyperbolic functions... ;)


>>>>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
>>>>> have very short relationships

>>>> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.

>>> Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and disappear without
>>> mention, especially Joey's!

>> Joey's boyfriends?

> Sorry girlfriends/boyfriends, I was thinking Monica as well!

Ah, well she seems to be hanging onto her current boyf.


>> That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...

> Ahhhh I finally get it! I think that would be going a bit ott. Funilly
> enough I did find a picture of what it would look like, if u wanna see
> it,I can find it again.

Lol, if you like. One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)


>> See "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.

> But I was asking for your humble opinion!

It's okay - Matt LeBlanc, Heather Graham, and Gary Oldman were all good,
and the special effects were nice, but it was let down by a daft story.


> J&P have Kate and the scientist guy.

I'm afraid they don't, Kate & David are long gone.


>> That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight in
>> the hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no
>> hoopla.

> There's not gonna be a hoopla?

Hehe, no eggplant either.


>> That's Jeff Greenstein, who worked with Jeff Strauss. They wrote...

>> 105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent"
>> 109 "TOW Underdog Gets Away"
>> 115 "TOW the Stoned Guy"
>> 123 "TOW the Birth"

>> I presume their brilliant writing is absent from the show now?

That's right, but even so the overwhelming majority of those old episodes
were written by the current writers.

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In article <9odni5$n3n$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>>>>> How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or


>>>>> are there some more that we don't know about?

>>>> Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with
>>>> the other two further along the corridor, roughly where the
>>>> studio audience sits.

>>> I figured there might be some more in the audience. Wasn't sure how
>>> many though. :)

>> Indeed. There's only one floor above Monica, which means about 24
>> apartments in the building. When originally built, there would have
>> been only one or maybe two apartments per floor - we know that #19
>> and #20 were originally all in one. When we see other floors (apart
>> from the lobby) they usually look the same (since they redress the
>> set) but when Mr.Heckles died there were three doors marked #6, #7,
>> and #8 at the end of a blind corridor, which is presumably what the
>> audience end looks like. Unfortunately, Heckles lived below Monica,
>> and their balconies line up, (S1-16), so that can't be the case.

> We probably shouldn't think about it too much :)

Absolutely, lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.


>>>>> They're wicked.

>>>> Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
>>>> of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.

>>> They're not always that nice.

>> They are compared with "Seinfeld".

> I saw that last night!! I've only ever seen it about three times in my
> whole life, they show it at such weird hours.

I know, it's relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the episodes are
being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*, due to its cult
status (which means that its audience is loyal but tiny).


>> Monica, Phoebe & Chandler ate the wax too. Joey copes of course, but
>> he still hid proper food under Monica's bed so that he would not have
>> to eat wax again.

> Yeah, but when he was eating the wax he seemed to be enjoying it. Maybe
> he was just still hungry afterwards... if it had been that bad he would
> have lost his appetite.

If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
other three were hungry enough to even try it.


>>>>>>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
>>>>>>>>> there ever was.

>>>>>>>> Ooh, lovely! :)

>>>>>>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........

>>>>>> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................

>>>>> I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.

>>>> Ooh, thanks sweetie!

>>> Yep, I'll Seran-wrap it up and everything.

>> Yay!

> I haven't made any in ages. I've probably lost the magic :(

Of course you haven't lost it, be strong sweetie.


>>> You probably don't die from having cheesy hair but
>>> it could be embarrassing.

>> Ewwww....

> My hair smells of Parma Violets.

Oooooooohhhhh.....


>>>> It would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.

>>> Yeah, she never sings :(

>> I know. :(

> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
> Why won't you sing for us?

Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Have you forgot?


>>>>>>> Alrighty-roo.

>>>>>> Hehe. :)

>>>>> I love saying that!

>>>> It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)

>>> Aww! And we already have a Joey!

>> ROTFL!!! Yes!

> What animals would the others be, based on their names?

An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.

>>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)

>> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.

> Can't wait!

Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was already
there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane the money he
had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my parcel in. :(


>>>>> Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy
>>>>> or something?

>>>> Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.

>>> I don't think it was ever in it, I just thought that might explain it
>>> better.

>> Oh, for sure.

> They could probably have found a way around it, but nm.

nm


>>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!

>>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!

>> The mind boggles...

> I hoped it would.

I know, I'm still envisioning it...


>>>>>>>> So romantic...

>>>>>>> Yeah, it really is...

>>>>>> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)

>>>>> Awww... maybe this time for good.

>>>> Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...

>>> He always has just 2 hours left or something. Sniff...

>> Well, at least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.

> Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
> rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
> have to go back!

Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
would demand that David put his work before her.


>>>>> Might have been Susie's sister too.

>>>> Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?

>>> They don't really have much together, but from what they do, they
>>> could be sisters. Of course, that could be because Julia and Lisa
>>> are sisters...

>> Yeah, so you're not sure.

> No. I just made it up.

Lol, that's what I'm doing half the time... ;)


>>>>> Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!

>>>> You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!

>>> She's in "I Love Trouble" too but she doesn't have any lines, and she
>>> was just Lisa Roberts then.

>> Indeed, it's only in "Runaway Bride" that she was credited as LRG.

> And it doesn't fit on the screen.

You need a wider screen, girl. :)


>>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?

>>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.

>>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!

>> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.

> No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.

Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.


>>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
>>>>> talk like that!

>>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?

>>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>>> movie.

>> Ah-hah...

> Which do you prefer then?

I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(


>>>>>> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.

>>>>> Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!

>>>> Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...

>>> She won't - but she'd better not take Richard there. Those cigars...
>>> shudder.

>> If he can give them up for Monica he can give them up for Janice.

> He might still be pining for Monica, the way she pines for him and the
> way that Janice pines for the Mattress King - although now that she's a
> millionaire she doesn't need to buy discount mattresses and can avoid
> seeing him.

You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

CandiGrrl

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"Owen Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<nCrq7.5917$o%6.76...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.

My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.

Maybe, maybe not, wait and see!

Okay, I'll stop :)

> > > > > > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding, but
> was
> she?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she was
> peeved
> > > > > > (such a cool word!)
> > > > >
> > > > > I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a swear
> word
> and
> > > > > is socially acceptable-ish.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, and it sounds so nice!
> > >
> > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
> >
> > Hehe, maybe.
>
> Especially in school!

Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.

> > > > > > >> >Was Monica entitled to be annoyed that she had to blag her way
> > > into
> > > her
> > > > > > >> >own cousin's wedding? Doesn't she calm down even before
> meeting
> Stuart?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'm surprised that at no point did Monica think to ask who her
> > > > > > >> ex-best-friend was marrying!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well if she didn't get an invite....I think she was planning on
> ruining
> > > > > > >Frannie's day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She knew that Frannie was getting married though, she just didn't
> know
> that
> > > > > > her brother got an invitation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still think she wanted to ruin Frannie's big day!
> > > >
> > > > Me too. I don't get why she wouldn't have found out who Frannie was
> > > > marrying though!
> > > >
> > > I don't think she cared who she was marrying, she was so intent on
> > > surprising Frannie.
> >
> > Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.
>
> Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"

Yep - them, and mobile phones.

> > > > > > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
> character
> > > > > > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers have
> not
> > > > > > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Oh, those critics...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's Bazaar".
> > > > >
> > > > > What is that!?
> > > >
> > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> > >
> > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
> >
> > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the mood,
> > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
>
> Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!

It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you want
to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
breasts.

> > > > > > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but can't
> Phoebe
> > > > > > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names her?
> Didn't
> > > > > > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a little
> bit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she
> just
> > > > > randomly picked it.
> > > >
> > > > I know! I'm just picking names too.
> > >
> > > Ok Glenda ;)
> >
> > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> >
> Fun! Gertrude

So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.

> > > > > > >> >Phoebe also angrily middle-named Rachel Karen Green, just as
> she
> did
> > > > > > >> >once before in 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt", but we already knew
> about
> > > > > > >> >this from her book in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing". That's *three*
> mentions
> of
> > > > > > >> >Karen, and yet we *still* don't know what Monica's E stands
> for!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'm sticking with my original guess which is "Ellen"... what's
> yours,
> > > > > > >> Tennant?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >Elsie Elsie!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I quite like that!
> > > > >
> > > > > It's the only funny name beginning with E!
> > > >
> > > > What about "Esmeralda"?
> > >
> > > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
> >
> > That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her Kermit
> > fetish.
> >
> Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!

Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
Monica Big-Bird Bing!

I wouldn't be so mean. It would be like torture.

> > > > > > >> >We see Joey getting changed, revealing he wears boxer shorts -
> but
> > > > > > >> >this is not a continuity error as some have claimed, because
> he
> does
> > > > > > >> >not wear his own clothes when he's at work, and in 302 "TOW
> No-one's
> > > > > > >> >Ready" he said that he doesn't go commando in another man's
> fatigues.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Anyway, even if they were his own, he probably wears underwear
> sometimes.
> > > > > > >> You don't have to go commando all the time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I wouldn't want to all the time!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Especially not in winter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please....stop now! Your giving me nightmares!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry!
> > > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > We'll never speak of it again...
>
> Never....some things that have been said can never be repeated....

Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".

> > > > > > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant where
> Monica
> > > > > > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an
> Eggplant";
> > > > > > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes", but
> for
> > > > > > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She'd more likely just be upset.
> > > > > >
> > > > > And screechy!!
> > > >
> > > > Crying, more like.
> > > >
> > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave rubbish
> > > massages!
> >
> > Aww, poor Mon!
>
> Well she deserves it for being cocky!

No she doesn't!

I want to grow some.

I just don't like the way it's saying that they can't remain platonic.

You can do it with CDs too. They also make good frisbees. And you can
throw them in the air and take a photo of them framed against the sky
and send it to the FBI with a note saying "I HAVE PROOF!!!!!"

Owen Shiers

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I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!

Lol, is he/she a pedigree?

Oh c'mon, surely you don't scream "I win" after sex?!

Thanks, although, I do seem to be giving in a lot!

> > > > > > > >> >Some have claimed that Monica was screechy at the wedding,
but
> > was
> > she?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> No, she was fine, even if she did say "blood" a lot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >She was very intense and loud....not so much screechy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I didn't even think she was that loud. And I can see why she
was
> > peeved
> > > > > > > (such a cool word!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know...it's kinda like pissed...but it's not + it's not a
swear
> > word
> > and
> > > > > > is socially acceptable-ish.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, and it sounds so nice!
> > > >
> > > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
> > >
> > > Hehe, maybe.
> >
> > Especially in school!
>
> Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.

Lucky bugger, thing is I'm in a Welsh secondary school and they're so strict
for some freakish reason. We're not even allowed to speak English!

Oh god I hate the things, can't stand them. Total waste of time and money.


>
> > > > > > > >> >We hear that Joey still works on "Days of Our Lives", (his
> > character
> > > > > > > >> >Dr. Drake Ramoray is in a coma), so the "Friends" writers
have
> > not
> > > > > > > >> >forgotten this storyline as some critics have claimed.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Oh, those critics...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Yes, whatever you do don't read "Hello"....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lol, I have no intention of doing so. I read "Harper's
Bazaar".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is that!?
> > > > >
> > > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> > > >
> > > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
> > >
> > > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the mood,
> > > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
> >
> > Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!
>
> It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you want
> to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
> breasts.

Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read it....maybe they
just want to look like discontented housewifes!


>
> > > > > > > >> >It was nice to hear Joey's middle name is Francis, but
can't
> > Phoebe
> > > > > > > >> >get so angry with Monica E. Geller that she middle-names
her?
> > Didn't
> > > > > > > >> >she find out what it was after the Race Car Bed incident?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> How about "Eulalia"? Sounds a bit like "Faloola". Just a
little
> > bit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >How about Emma? or Elsie? Elsie is more funny
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, but they don't sound like "Faloola".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think Phoebe was trying to think of Monica's name....she
> > just
> > > > > > randomly picked it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know! I'm just picking names too.
> > > >
> > > > Ok Glenda ;)
> > >
> > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> > >
> > Fun! Gertrude
>
> So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.

I know a Muriel!

That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show! That's so
cool!

No, not as bad as the boxers in winter!

Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?


>
> > > > > > > >> >Joey & Phoebe dined at Iridium, which is the restaurant
where
> > Monica
> > > > > > > >> >worked until she was fired in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an
> > Eggplant";
> > > > > > > >> >but is the restaurant actually called "Cafe Des Artistes",
but
> > for
> > > > > > > >> >some reason it has "Iridium" written on the front?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Just as long as Monica doesn't find out, they'll be okay!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >We wouldn't want her getting "screechy"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > She'd more likely just be upset.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > And screechy!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Crying, more like.
> > > > >
> > > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave
rubbish
> > > > massages!
> > >
> > > Aww, poor Mon!
> >
> > Well she deserves it for being cocky!
>
> No she doesn't!

Yeah totally! Anyone who thinks they're the best at everything deserves a
smack!

Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.

Platwhat?

Lol, I've tried throwing cd's, that is very fun. Also I've tried braking
cd's by throwing them against a wall and it's impossible!

Owen


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>
> >>>>>>>> Have you watched any episodes of "Felicity" where
> >>>>>>>> Eddie Cahill plays James, to see if he is any good in that?
>
> >>>>>>> Nope, I've never seen it. Is it on her in Britain? Or is it on sky
> >>>>>>> or something....I could try downloading an episode from somewhere.
>
> >>>>>> It is on British TV somewhere, but I forget where.
>
> >>>>> Probably sky, I would have noticed otherwise.
>
> >>>> It doesn't sound like a Sky show.
>
> >>> How can it not sound like a sky show?!
>
> >> I dunno... just doesn't.
>
> > Lol, ok I accept, but can you find out what channel carries it?
>
> I think it was Channel 5.
>
Ah. I try not to be prejudiced but if Channel 5 have it, it must suck.

>
> >> Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(
>
> > Ok, I'll take your advice and stay clear. I suppose the biggest risk is
> > losing all the data....or is it?!
>
> No, you back up your data. The risk is that you spend too much time
> messing with it, which is why there's lots of things I'd like to do
> with the database but I've resisted the temptation - so far.

Oh of course, I always back up my data (cough) But well done Tennant, keep
resiting. I must ask you what techniques do you use? Because my friend is
trying to quit smoking and the only addiction I can compare it to is Friends
because I don't smoke.

Oh yeah, I forgot the hand twin....oh god.......I thought the end of season
5 was poor. The "Anavadaversary" joke was terrible.


>
>
> > but the rest were all funny.
>
> See? Six was a good season!
>

Ok ok, I'm willing to back down!


>
> > I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.
>
> Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.

Wohoo! off to watch 710 (again) on S4C after this, I want to see the
reaction on my sister's face when she sees Ross!


>
>
> >> I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
> >> 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
> >> of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
> >> television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".
>
> > Damn you, DAMN YOU ALL!! ;)
>
> Grin.

I'll have to search for the ultimate Cheesecake recipe myself then, I will
make the ultimate cheesecake, I WILL!


>
>
> >> Buffay the Vampire Layer.
>
> > I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title of a
> > porn film.
>
> They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
> starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
> followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
> and directed by Jack Stephen.

There's something unique, but yet disturbing about the fact that you knew
all that Tennant!


>
>
> >> I know what you mean. What about hedgehogs paying trains?
>
> > Have you been drinking?
>
> Don't you know about hedgehogs?

Yes, they bark and drink dog food.


>
>
> >>>>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>>>> Meaning?!
>
> >>>> Can't talk about it under the S7-11 banner.
>
> >>> ah....under what banner can you?
>
> >> On the grounds that anyone who doesn't want to be spoiled won't follow
> >> this thread back to see what we're talking about, I'll tell you. S7-15.
>
> > Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.
>
> The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?

The 27 minute one?!


>
>
> >>>> Maths is very easy, and neat fun.
>
> >>> No...no....err no! I'm ok with basic algebra but things like radians
> >>> and that are ich.
>
> >> What? Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)
>
> > Ahhh stop it! I havnt even got that far yet! Still on the old Feta,
radius
> > and area working out!
>
> Oh, just wait until you begin hyperbolic functions... ;)

Whopee can't wait!


>
>
> >>>>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
> >>>>> have very short relationships
>
> >>>> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.
>
> >>> Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and disappear without
> >>> mention, especially Joey's!
>
> >> Joey's boyfriends?
>
> > Sorry girlfriends/boyfriends, I was thinking Monica as well!
>
> Ah, well she seems to be hanging onto her current boyf.

Well ok, Monica earlier on. Icky? I mean what the hell is that about!


>
>
> >> That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...
>
> > Ahhhh I finally get it! I think that would be going a bit ott. Funilly
> > enough I did find a picture of what it would look like, if u wanna see
> > it,I can find it again.
>
> Lol, if you like. One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
> waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)

Probably like that Sphynx thing in egypt (with the nose) ;)


>
>
> >> See "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.
>
> > But I was asking for your humble opinion!
>
> It's okay - Matt LeBlanc, Heather Graham, and Gary Oldman were all good,
> and the special effects were nice, but it was let down by a daft story.

Ok, thanks. I think I'll watch it by chance if it's on again.


>
>
> > J&P have Kate and the scientist guy.
>
> I'm afraid they don't, Kate & David are long gone.

Well for Joey yes, maybe but not for Phoebe.....never give up hope! That
laptop may yet be smashed to the floor in a moment of passion!


>
>
> >> That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight in
> >> the hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no
> >> hoopla.
>
> > There's not gonna be a hoopla?
>
> Hehe, no eggplant either.

I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!


>
>
> >> That's Jeff Greenstein, who worked with Jeff Strauss. They wrote...
>
> >> 105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent"
> >> 109 "TOW Underdog Gets Away"
> >> 115 "TOW the Stoned Guy"
> >> 123 "TOW the Birth"
>
> >> I presume their brilliant writing is absent from the show now?
>
> That's right, but even so the overwhelming majority of those old episodes
> were written by the current writers.
>
>

I would like to see a recent episode written by the old writers, just to see
if it is the current new writers responsible for some rubbish storylines.

Owen


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.2489284abd...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9odni5$n3n$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>
> >>>>> How many apartments are there on each floor? Are there just two? Or
> >>>>> are there some more that we don't know about?
>
> >>>> Since Monica's is #20, there must be about four per floor, with
> >>>> the other two further along the corridor, roughly where the
> >>>> studio audience sits.
>
> >>> I figured there might be some more in the audience. Wasn't sure how
> >>> many though. :)
>
> >> Indeed. There's only one floor above Monica, which means about 24
> >> apartments in the building. When originally built, there would have
> >> been only one or maybe two apartments per floor - we know that #19
> >> and #20 were originally all in one. When we see other floors (apart
> >> from the lobby) they usually look the same (since they redress the
> >> set) but when Mr.Heckles died there were three doors marked #6, #7,
> >> and #8 at the end of a blind corridor, which is presumably what the
> >> audience end looks like. Unfortunately, Heckles lived below Monica,
> >> and their balconies line up, (S1-16), so that can't be the case.
>
> > We probably shouldn't think about it too much :)
>
> Absolutely, lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.

That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
ex-bedroom have a window?

> >>>>> They're wicked.
>
> >>>> Unless the fact that they're so nice to each other gives them plenty
> >>>> of karma, which is how they always manage to get away with it.
>
> >>> They're not always that nice.
>
> >> They are compared with "Seinfeld".
>
> > I saw that last night!! I've only ever seen it about three times in my
> > whole life, they show it at such weird hours.
>
> I know, it's relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the episodes are
> being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*, due to its cult
> status (which means that its audience is loyal but tiny).

Did they ever show the one with CC?

> >> Monica, Phoebe & Chandler ate the wax too. Joey copes of course, but
> >> he still hid proper food under Monica's bed so that he would not have
> >> to eat wax again.
>
> > Yeah, but when he was eating the wax he seemed to be enjoying it. Maybe
> > he was just still hungry afterwards... if it had been that bad he would
> > have lost his appetite.
>
> If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
> other three were hungry enough to even try it.

I would have thought that they could last a little longer than that. I
can go without eating for about three days and from the looks of her,
so can Monica...

> >>>>>>>>> I'm vegetarian and I make the best chocolate pudding with custard
> >>>>>>>>> there ever was.
>
> >>>>>>>> Ooh, lovely! :)
>
> >>>>>>> It really is. It's all gooey in the middle.... ummmmm...........
>
> >>>>>> Ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................
>
> >>>>> I'll send you some one day. I have to send Seran some too.
>
> >>>> Ooh, thanks sweetie!
>
> >>> Yep, I'll Seran-wrap it up and everything.
>
> >> Yay!
>
> > I haven't made any in ages. I've probably lost the magic :(
>
> Of course you haven't lost it, be strong sweetie.

I'll have a go tomorrow. Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes
for breakfast.

> >>> You probably don't die from having cheesy hair but
> >>> it could be embarrassing.
>
> >> Ewwww....
>
> > My hair smells of Parma Violets.
>
> Oooooooohhhhh.....

I used to really like them! Can't eat them now.

> >>>> It would be nice just if Phoebe sang more.
>
> >>> Yeah, she never sings :(
>
> >> I know. :(
>
> > Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
> > Why won't you sing for us?
>
> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
> Have you forgot?

They won't let you play guitar,
And Smelly Cat's gone away so far

> >>>>>>> Alrighty-roo.
>
> >>>>>> Hehe. :)
>
> >>>>> I love saying that!
>
> >>>> It sounds like a friendly marsupial... ;)
>
> >>> Aww! And we already have a Joey!
>
> >> ROTFL!!! Yes!
>
> > What animals would the others be, based on their names?
>
> An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.

Hehe, okay. Monica could be a monkey.

> >>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)
>
> >> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.
>
> > Can't wait!
>
> Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was already
> there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane the money he
> had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my parcel in. :(

Well, it got here this morning. :)

> >>>>> Well, never mind. Why didn't Ross say he got a phone call from Judy
> >>>>> or something?
>
> >>>> Maybe it got cut out of the script, it's not on the DVD.
>
> >>> I don't think it was ever in it, I just thought that might explain it
> >>> better.
>
> >> Oh, for sure.
>
> > They could probably have found a way around it, but nm.
>
> nm
>
>
> >>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!
>
> >>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!
>
> >> The mind boggles...
>
> > I hoped it would.
>
> I know, I'm still envisioning it...

Yeah. The answer is, of course, my handbag. Remember?

> >>>>>>>> So romantic...
>
> >>>>>>> Yeah, it really is...
>
> >>>>>> Well, no doubt we'll see him again in Season 13. :)
>
> >>>>> Awww... maybe this time for good.
>
> >>>> Or else David goes away again, hoping to return in Season 19...
>
> >>> He always has just 2 hours left or something. Sniff...
>
> >> Well, at least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.
>
> > Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
> > rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
> > have to go back!
>
> Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
> would demand that David put his work before her.

If he was ill, he couldn't!

> >>>>> Might have been Susie's sister too.
>
> >>>> Could be - do Susie & Cathy behave like sisters?
>
> >>> They don't really have much together, but from what they do, they
> >>> could be sisters. Of course, that could be because Julia and Lisa
> >>> are sisters...
>
> >> Yeah, so you're not sure.
>
> > No. I just made it up.
>
> Lol, that's what I'm doing half the time... ;)

It makes us seem knowledgeable.

> >>>>> Lisa Roberts Gillan looks nothing like Julia at all!
>
> >>>> You've been watching "Runaway Bride"!
>
> >>> She's in "I Love Trouble" too but she doesn't have any lines, and she
> >>> was just Lisa Roberts then.
>
> >> Indeed, it's only in "Runaway Bride" that she was credited as LRG.
>
> > And it doesn't fit on the screen.
>
> You need a wider screen, girl. :)

Totally.

> >>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?
>
> >>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.
>
> >>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!
>
> >> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.
>
> > No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.
>
> Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.

I haven't seen that. That must mean that "Jay And Silent Bob Strike
Back" is a work of genius! My friend Sandy (of the cheesy hair) liked
it a lot.

> >>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
> >>>>> talk like that!
>
> >>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?
>
> >>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
> >>> movie.
>
> >> Ah-hah...
>
> > Which do you prefer then?
>
> I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(

You could choose anyway... but you'd just choose the same one.

> >>>>>> In that case she should marry Pete, and take Richard as her lover.
>
> >>>>> Ooh, go Janice! You oat-sowing field-playing juggler!
>
> >>>> Well, as long as she doesn't set the park on fire...
>
> >>> She won't - but she'd better not take Richard there. Those cigars...
> >>> shudder.
>
> >> If he can give them up for Monica he can give them up for Janice.
>
> > He might still be pining for Monica, the way she pines for him and the
> > way that Janice pines for the Mattress King - although now that she's a
> > millionaire she doesn't need to buy discount mattresses and can avoid
> > seeing him.
>
> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

Yes. You said it first though.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <DWMq7.10797$o%6.19...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>> Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(

>>> Ok, I'll take your advice and stay clear. I suppose the biggest risk
>>> is losing all the data....or is it?!

>> No, you back up your data. The risk is that you spend too much time
>> messing with it, which is why there's lots of things I'd like to do
>> with the database but I've resisted the temptation - so far.

> Oh of course, I always back up my data (cough) But well done Tennant,
> keep resiting. I must ask you what techniques do you use? Because my
> friend is trying to quit smoking and the only addiction I can compare it
> to is Friends because I don't smoke.

Me neither.


>>> I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the worst ever

>> Oh no, there have been far worse (the hand twin to name but one) and it
>> was worth it for the look on Chandler & Monica's faces when it seemed
>> that Joey had undergone a mysterious transformation.

> Oh yeah, I forgot the hand twin....oh god.......I thought the end of
> season 5 was poor. The "Anavadaversary" joke was terrible.

I was in a bad place for that because the cliffhanger was spoilt for me. :(


>>> but the rest were all funny.

>> See? Six was a good season!

> Ok ok, I'm willing to back down!

Good lad.


>>> I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.

>> Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.

After I wrote that, I heard Channel 4 announce that they were pulling
the episode, so I had to switch the review. However, if you're keen to
discuss 712, I'll post the review for you (with spoiler space).


> Wohoo! off to watch 710 (again) on S4C after this, I want to see the
> reaction on my sister's face when she sees Ross!

Oh yes?


>>>> I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
>>>> 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
>>>> of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
>>>> television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".

>>> Damn you, DAMN YOU ALL!! ;)

>> Grin.

> I'll have to search for the ultimate Cheesecake recipe myself then, I will
> make the ultimate cheesecake, I WILL!

Your first task is to find out what sort of crust it should have, since
according to the transcript, Rachel says it's "graham cracker", but that
makes no sense to me. Maybe it will for you.


>>>> Buffay the Vampire Layer.

>>> I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title
>>> of a porn film.

>> They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
>> starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
>> followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
>> and directed by Jack Stephen.

> There's something unique, but yet disturbing about the fact that you
> knew all that Tennant!

Not really, I copied the entries from my private copy of the IMDb.


>>>> What about hedgehogs playing trains?

>>> Have you been drinking?

>> Don't you know about hedgehogs?

> Yes, they bark and drink dog food.

They also make paths in the long grass, which they run along nose to
rump, usually about 3 or 4 of them, making loud chuff-chuff noises.


>>> Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.

>> The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?

> The 27 minute one?!

The NBC supersized version runs at NTSC speed in 28:02 which converts
to PAL speed at 26:55 (the ratio is 24/25 and ignore those idiot geeks
on UMTF who'll try to tell you otherwise) which is near enough. Note
that the DVD version runs 27:26 at PAL speed, 28:35 at NTSC speed.

Do you have the blooper show as well?


>>>> Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)

>>> Ahhh stop it! I havnt even got that far yet! Still on the old Feta,
>>> radius and area working out!

>> Oh, just wait until you begin hyperbolic functions... ;)

> Whopee can't wait!

They always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become sinh, cosh & tanh,
which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h & tan-h, but we had to
call them shine, cosh & than which was totally inconsistent.


>>>>>>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
>>>>>>> have very short relationships

>>>>>> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.

>>>>> Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and disappear
>>>>> without mention, especially Joey's!

>>>> Joey's boyfriends?

>>> Sorry girlfriends/boyfriends, I was thinking Monica as well!

>> Ah, well she seems to be hanging onto her current boyf.

> Well ok, Monica earlier on. Icky? I mean what the hell is that about!

Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.


>>>> That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...

>>> Ahhhh I finally get it! I think that would be going a bit ott. Funilly
>>> enough I did find a picture of what it would look like, if u wanna see
>>> it,I can find it again.

>> Lol, if you like. One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
>> waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)

> Probably like that Sphynx thing in egypt (with the nose) ;)

Lol, yes!


>>>> See "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.

>>> But I was asking for your humble opinion!

>> It's okay - Matt LeBlanc, Heather Graham, and Gary Oldman were all good,
>> and the special effects were nice, but it was let down by a daft story.

> Ok, thanks. I think I'll watch it by chance if it's on again.

It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.


>>> J&P have Kate and the scientist guy.

>> I'm afraid they don't, Kate & David are long gone.

> Well for Joey yes, maybe but not for Phoebe.....never give up hope! That
> laptop may yet be smashed to the floor in a moment of passion!

He's due back in Season 13.


>>>> That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight
>>>> in the hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no
>>>> hoopla.

>>> There's not gonna be a hoopla?

>> Hehe, no eggplant either.

> I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!

It's what the Americans call an aubergine.


>>>> That's Jeff Greenstein, who worked with Jeff Strauss. They wrote...

>>>> 105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent"
>>>> 109 "TOW Underdog Gets Away"
>>>> 115 "TOW the Stoned Guy"
>>>> 123 "TOW the Birth"

>>>> I presume their brilliant writing is absent from the show now?

>> That's right, but even so the overwhelming majority of those old
>> episodes were written by the current writers.

> I would like to see a recent episode written by the old writers, just
> to see if it is the current new writers responsible for some rubbish
> storylines.

Well, the most recent episodes (709/710/711) were written by the old
writers Wil Calhoun, Greg Malins & Shana Goldberg-Meehan. Altogether
they are credited for these 13 episodes that I disliked...

219 "TOW Eddie Won't Go" (GM)
317 "TOWo the Ski Trip" (SG)
322 "TOW the Screamer" (SG)
324 "TOW the Ultimate Fighting Champion" (SG)
405 "TOW Joey's New Girlfriend" (GM)
416 "TOW the Fake Party" (SG)
419 "TOW All the Haste" (WC)
510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister" (SG)
520 "TOW the Ride Along" (SG)
521 "TOW the Ball" (GM)
524 "TOI Vegas (part 2)" (GM)
701 "TOW Monica's Thunder" (WC)
709 "TOW All the Candy" (WC)

..but also for these 30 episodes that I liked...

203 "TOW Heckles Dies" (GM)
215 "TOW Ross and Rachel... You Know" (GM)
220 "TOW Old Yeller Dies" (GM)
301 "TOW the Princess Leia Fantasy" (GM)
303 "TOW the Jam" (WC)
305 "TOW Frank Jr." (SG)
310 "TOW Rachel Quits" (GM)
314 "TOW Phoebe's Ex-Partner" (WC)
320 "TOW the Dollhouse" (WC)
401 "TOW the Jellyfish" (WC)
406 "TOW the Dirty Girl" (SG)
413 "TOW Rachel's Crush" (SG)
414 "TOW Joey's Dirty Day" (WC)
415 "TOW All the Rugby" (WC)
420 "TOW All the Wedding Dresses" (GM)
422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever" (GM)
424 "TOW Ross's Wedding (part 2)" (SG)
502 "TOW All the Kissing" (WC)
508 "TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks" (GM)
522 "TOW Joey's Big Break" (SG+WC)
602 "TOW Ross Hugs Rachel" (SG)
609 "TOW Ross Got High" (GM)
612 "TOW the Joke" (SG)
615 "TOT Could Have Been (part 1)" (GM)
624 "TOW the Proposal (part 1)" (SG)
710 "TOW the Holiday Armadillo" (GM)
711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes" (SG)
720 "TOW Rachel's ### ####" (SG)
722 "TOW Chandler's ###" (GM)
723 "TOW Monica ### ########## ####### (part 1)" (GM)

..of course, your mileage may differ, but as you can see it's a
case of win most, lose a few, as far as I am concerned.

Owen Shiers

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to

> >>>> Oh Owen, beware the dark & treacherous road... :(
>
> >>> Ok, I'll take your advice and stay clear. I suppose the biggest risk
> >>> is losing all the data....or is it?!
>
> >> No, you back up your data. The risk is that you spend too much time
> >> messing with it, which is why there's lots of things I'd like to do
> >> with the database but I've resisted the temptation - so far.
>
> > Oh of course, I always back up my data (cough) But well done Tennant,
> > keep resiting. I must ask you what techniques do you use? Because my
> > friend is trying to quit smoking and the only addiction I can compare it
> > to is Friends because I don't smoke.
>
> Me neither.

I just don't get it, silly people.


>
>
> >>> I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the worst ever
>
> >> Oh no, there have been far worse (the hand twin to name but one) and it
> >> was worth it for the look on Chandler & Monica's faces when it seemed
> >> that Joey had undergone a mysterious transformation.
>
> > Oh yeah, I forgot the hand twin....oh god.......I thought the end of
> > season 5 was poor. The "Anavadaversary" joke was terrible.
>
> I was in a bad place for that because the cliffhanger was spoilt for me.
:(

Sorry dude:(
>
>

>

>
> >>> I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.
>
> >> Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.
>
> After I wrote that, I heard Channel 4 announce that they were pulling
> the episode, so I had to switch the review. However, if you're keen to
> discuss 712, I'll post the review for you (with spoiler space).

Well I've downloaded 50% of 713, I should finish it by this evening so I'll
watch it tonight and reply. I think we should stay clear of 712 for a while,
it's funny, it never occured to me that it could be insensitive at the time.


>
>
> > Wohoo! off to watch 710 (again) on S4C after this, I want to see the
> > reaction on my sister's face when she sees Ross!
>
> Oh yes?

That was the only bit she found funny, she's only 13 though. I don't think
she gets many of the jokes in friends. I certainly didn't at that age. As
you age you appreciate the good acting and you get more of the jokes!


>
>
> >>>> I'm afraid that Momma's Little Bakery is in the same world as Section
> >>>> 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code, the Palaeontological Department
> >>>> of NYU, the coffee house at the corner of Bedford & Grove, and the
> >>>> television studio in New York where they make "Days of Our Lives".
>
> >>> Damn you, DAMN YOU ALL!! ;)
>
> >> Grin.
>
> > I'll have to search for the ultimate Cheesecake recipe myself then, I
will
> > make the ultimate cheesecake, I WILL!
>
> Your first task is to find out what sort of crust it should have, since
> according to the transcript, Rachel says it's "graham cracker", but that
> makes no sense to me. Maybe it will for you.

I don't know, I'll do some research.


>
>
> >>>> Buffay the Vampire Layer.
>
> >>> I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title
> >>> of a porn film.
>
> >> They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
> >> starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
> >> followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
> >> and directed by Jack Stephen.
>
> > There's something unique, but yet disturbing about the fact that you
> > knew all that Tennant!
>
> Not really, I copied the entries from my private copy of the IMDb.

I gusssed as much, I was only kidding ;)


>
>
> >>>> What about hedgehogs playing trains?
>
> >>> Have you been drinking?
>
> >> Don't you know about hedgehogs?
>
> > Yes, they bark and drink dog food.
>
> They also make paths in the long grass, which they run along nose to
> rump, usually about 3 or 4 of them, making loud chuff-chuff noises.

Seriously?! Cool, i gotta check them out! (around here they're mostly lying
nose to the road lying still unfortunately)


>
>
> >>> Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.
>
> >> The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?
>
> > The 27 minute one?!
>
> The NBC supersized version runs at NTSC speed in 28:02 which converts
> to PAL speed at 26:55 (the ratio is 24/25 and ignore those idiot geeks
> on UMTF who'll try to tell you otherwise) which is near enough. Note
> that the DVD version runs 27:26 at PAL speed, 28:35 at NTSC speed.
>
> Do you have the blooper show as well?

Yeah I just checked it's the 28 minute one, I downloaded it off kazaa ages
ago. It is the NTSC version because it's the nbc original. I must say I do
notice the change in speed, their voices are much higher. And yes I have the
blooper show!


>
>
> >>>> Radians make trigonometry *so* much simpler! :)
>
> >>> Ahhh stop it! I havnt even got that far yet! Still on the old Feta,
> >>> radius and area working out!
>
> >> Oh, just wait until you begin hyperbolic functions... ;)
>
> > Whopee can't wait!
>
> They always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become sinh, cosh & tanh,
> which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h & tan-h, but we had to
> call them shine, cosh & than which was totally inconsistent.

Well we've just started something similar to sin, cos & tan, I'll find out
if it is the h-thing. And if we end up calling them shine, cosh and than
I'll point it out!


>
>
> >>>>>>> Apart from with each other and Richard, they all seem to
> >>>>>>> have very short relationships
>
> >>>>>> Well, they're all short compared with Chandler & Monica.
>
> >>>>> Another thing is, the boyfriends seem to appear and disappear
> >>>>> without mention, especially Joey's!
>
> >>>> Joey's boyfriends?
>
> >>> Sorry girlfriends/boyfriends, I was thinking Monica as well!
>
> >> Ah, well she seems to be hanging onto her current boyf.
>
> > Well ok, Monica earlier on. Icky? I mean what the hell is that about!
>
> Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
> indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
> both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
> got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
> still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.

Yeah, I can't imagine Joey in a relationship! All I'm saying is that a lot
of the time, we hear about dates etc but nothing else. All the
boyfriends/girlfriends dissapear.


>
>
> >>>> That's the idea of the medium/tall/medium/medium buildings...
>
> >>> Ahhhh I finally get it! I think that would be going a bit ott. Funilly
> >>> enough I did find a picture of what it would look like, if u wanna see
> >>> it,I can find it again.
>
> >> Lol, if you like. One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
> >> waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)
>
> > Probably like that Sphynx thing in egypt (with the nose) ;)
>
> Lol, yes!

I can't think of any building that would look like the fists though....


>
>
> >>>> See "Lost in Space" for yourself, and make up your own mind.
>
> >>> But I was asking for your humble opinion!
>
> >> It's okay - Matt LeBlanc, Heather Graham, and Gary Oldman were all
good,
> >> and the special effects were nice, but it was let down by a daft story.
>
> > Ok, thanks. I think I'll watch it by chance if it's on again.
>
> It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.

Yeah....I hate paying for crap movies...i.e. Planet of the Apes.


>
>
> >>> J&P have Kate and the scientist guy.
>
> >> I'm afraid they don't, Kate & David are long gone.
>
> > Well for Joey yes, maybe but not for Phoebe.....never give up hope! That
> > laptop may yet be smashed to the floor in a moment of passion!
>
> He's due back in Season 13.

Damn....it'll have to be a palmtop then!


>
>
> >>>> That would have to be at the end of S3, because Perry put on weight
> >>>> in the hiatus - plus C4 lost the first run rights of S4 to Sky, so no
> >>>> hoopla.
>
> >>> There's not gonna be a hoopla?
>
> >> Hehe, no eggplant either.
>
> > I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!
>
> It's what the Americans call an aubergine.

Ohhhh...I prefer a bit of haddock myself ;)

Well I've seen every episode, apart from 720 and 722 and now that I look
that them I must say I agree. Although I can't remember some season 6
episodes well, I agree wholely with your list of bad episodes. The Eddie and
Ultimate Fighting champion storylines were poor. I guess it's a case of me
being picky!

Owen


Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01092...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<na.2489284abd...@argonet.co.uk>...

>> Absolutely, lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.

> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
> ex-bedroom have a window?

Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.


>> I know, "Seinfeld" is relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the


>> episodes are being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*,
>> due to its cult status (which means that its audience is loyal but tiny).

> Did they ever show the one with CC?

I guess, for they're at last showing the ninth season, 3½ years after it
aired in America, and she was in 517 "The Wife". I've seen the episode on
Paramount, and she was dreadfully under-used, but it aired 6 months before
"Friends" began. However, when CC *was* allowed to do something, she was
really quite good. If only they could have got Jerry to shut his mouth.


>> If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
>> other three were hungry enough to even try it.

> I would have thought that they could last a little longer than that. I
> can go without eating for about three days and from the looks of her,
> so can Monica...

Monica can do, but she'd look better if she put on more weight.


>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.

Ooh, great!


> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.

Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.


>>> My hair smells of Parma Violets.

>> Oooooooohhhhh.....

> I used to really like them! Can't eat them now.

Oh, I thought Parma Violets were a flower scent in shampoo.


>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>> Why won't you sing for us?

>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>> Have you forgot?

> They won't let you play guitar,
> And Smelly Cat's gone away so far

It made your heart leap to sing,
But Chandler moans it doesn't swing...

>>> What animals would the others be, based on their names?

>> An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.

> Hehe, okay. Monica could be a monkey.

Ooh, I didn't think of that!


>>>>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)

>>>> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.

>>> Can't wait!

>> Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was already
>> there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane the money he
>> had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my parcel in. :(

> Well, it got here this morning. :)

Yeah, I don't understand this. I missed the post on Thursday afternoon,
and you got the parcel on Friday morning! Efficient, or what?


>>>>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!

>>>>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!

>>>> The mind boggles...

>>> I hoped it would.

>> I know, I'm still envisioning it...

> Yeah. The answer is, of course, my handbag. Remember?

<bracknell> A handbag!? </bracknell>


>>>> At least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.

>>> Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
>>> rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
>>> have to go back!

>> Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
>> would demand that David put his work before her.

> If he was ill, he couldn't!

Nah, Monica is the motherly type, not Phoebe - she'd keep working.


>>> And it doesn't fit on the screen.

>> You need a wider screen, girl. :)

> Totally.

What does Mrs.S say about that?


>>>>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?

>>>>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.

>>>>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!

>>>> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.

>>> No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.

>> Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.

> I haven't seen that. That must mean that "Jay And Silent Bob Strike
> Back" is a work of genius! My friend Sandy (of the cheesy hair) liked
> it a lot.

Oh, good-o!


>>>>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
>>>>>>> talk like that!

>>>>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?

>>>>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>>>>> movie.

>>>> Ah-hah...

>>> Which do you prefer then?

>> I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(

> You could choose anyway... but you'd just choose the same one.

Which one?


>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

> Yes. You said it first though.

Did I? When?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <20010921230212...@mb-cv.aol.com>,
velve...@aol.comDrpMePlz (Velvet Frogg) wrote:

>> From: Tennant Stuart ten...@argonet.co.uk

>>>> We have them in Europe too. Are yours in widescreen?

>>> Wide screen? No idea.

>> If you did have it, you'd know what I was talking about. The pictures are
>> specially enhanced horizontally, for viewing on a wide rectangular TV.

> Ah. Ok. Well I have a square tv..

Which is not best suited for watching movies - or football ether.


>> Oh, some of our movie channels do that during each daytime.

> waaah! I want that!

Oh well, you guys will catch up, one day I guess. :)


>>>> So how did Joey's TV set suddenly start showing porn?

>>> I don't know! I'm not in NY! I'm about 2000 miles south of him! And it
>>> was in the girl's apt.. Maybe they had porn and then realized the guys
>>> were now using it and had it turned off! And they just didn't want to
>>> tell anyone!

>> Oh, *what* an interesting theory! :)

> It is isn't it! Or maybe..... I don't know.

Well, all we know is that the porn was still going at the end of the
episode, and next week it was gone.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>In article <77c0196c.01092...@posting.google.com>,
>Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
>> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:<na.2489284abd...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
>>> Absolutely, lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.
>
>> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
>> ex-bedroom have a window?
>
>Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
>see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
>if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
>there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.


How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?

>>> I know, "Seinfeld" is relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the
>>> episodes are being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*,
>>> due to its cult status (which means that its audience is loyal but
tiny).
>
>> Did they ever show the one with CC?
>
>I guess, for they're at last showing the ninth season, 3½ years after it
>aired in America, and she was in 517 "The Wife". I've seen the episode on
>Paramount, and she was dreadfully under-used, but it aired 6 months before
>"Friends" began. However, when CC *was* allowed to do something, she was
>really quite good. If only they could have got Jerry to shut his mouth.


Lol, I'd love to see that. Hope they show it one day.

>>> If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
>>> other three were hungry enough to even try it.
>
>> I would have thought that they could last a little longer than that. I
>> can go without eating for about three days and from the looks of her,
>> so can Monica...
>
>Monica can do, but she'd look better if she put on more weight.


She would, but I guess she'll do for now.

>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
>>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.
>
>Ooh, great!


I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is getting old.

>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.
>
>Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.


Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.

>>>> My hair smells of Parma Violets.
>
>>> Oooooooohhhhh.....
>
>> I used to really like them! Can't eat them now.
>
>Oh, I thought Parma Violets were a flower scent in shampoo.


No, they're little purple sweets. Did you really never have them? I can't
eat them because they have gelatine and I'm a committed vegetarian.

>>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>>> Why won't you sing for us?
>
>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>> Have you forgot?
>
>> They won't let you play guitar,
>> And Smelly Cat's gone away so far
>
>It made your heart leap to sing,
>But Chandler moans it doesn't swing...


Back to the chorus. All together now!

Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Why won't you sing for us?
Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Have you forgot?

>>>> What animals would the others be, based on their names?


>
>>> An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.
>
>> Hehe, okay. Monica could be a monkey.
>
>Ooh, I didn't think of that!


What's a mongoose? Are they the things that eat snakes?

>>>>>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)
>
>>>>> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.
>
>>>> Can't wait!
>
>>> Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was already
>>> there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane the money he
>>> had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my parcel in. :(
>
>> Well, it got here this morning. :)
>
>Yeah, I don't understand this. I missed the post on Thursday afternoon,
>and you got the parcel on Friday morning! Efficient, or what?


Yep, all hail the postal service!

>>>>>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!
>
>>>>>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!
>
>>>>> The mind boggles...
>
>>>> I hoped it would.
>
>>> I know, I'm still envisioning it...
>
>> Yeah. The answer is, of course, my handbag. Remember?
>
><bracknell> A handbag!? </bracknell>


At least you didn't start talking about the cucumber sandwiches :)

>>>>> At least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.
>
>>>> Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
>>>> rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
>>>> have to go back!
>
>>> Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
>>> would demand that David put his work before her.
>
>> If he was ill, he couldn't!
>
>Nah, Monica is the motherly type, not Phoebe - she'd keep working.


Well David could get v. pregnant, then he wouldn't be allowed to fly. Wait,
there could be something wrong with that.

>>>> And it doesn't fit on the screen.
>
>>> You need a wider screen, girl. :)
>
>> Totally.
>
>What does Mrs.S say about that?


I haven't even attempted it.

>>>>>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?
>
>>>>>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma". I need to catch up.
>
>>>>>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!
>
>>>>> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.
>
>>>> No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.
>
>>> Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.
>
>> I haven't seen that. That must mean that "Jay And Silent Bob Strike
>> Back" is a work of genius! My friend Sandy (of the cheesy hair) liked
>> it a lot.
>
>Oh, good-o!


She also liked "Big Daddy" though.

>>>>>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
>>>>>>>> talk like that!
>
>>>>>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?
>
>>>>>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>>>>>> movie.
>
>>>>> Ah-hah...
>
>>>> Which do you prefer then?
>
>>> I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(
>
>> You could choose anyway... but you'd just choose the same one.
>
>Which one?


I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking *too*
high and helium-y. I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved
it! I kept laughing though.

>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?
>
>> Yes. You said it first though.
>
>Did I? When?


Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"

Owen Shiers

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Here you go Tennant, I might give it a try sometime in the next century...

CREAMSICLE CHEESECAKE
Serves: 6 to 8

2 packages (8 ounces each) cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup sugar
2 eggs
3/4 cup sour cream
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 teaspoon orange extract
2 drops yellow food color
1 drop red food color
One 9-inch graham cracker pie crust

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. In a large bowl, beat the cream cheese
and sugar until light and fluffy. Add the eggs, beat well. Add the sour
cream and vanilla, mix well. Place 1 cup of the mixture in a small bowl and
stir in the orange extract and the yellow and red food colors.
Pour the remaining cream cheese mixture into the pie crust. Drop the orange
cream cheese mixture into it by spoonfuls and swirl with a knife to
create a marbled effect. Bake for 30 to 35 minutes, or until firm around the
edges. (The center will be slightly loose.) Allow to cool for 1 hour then
cover and chill for at least 8 hours before serving.

NOTE: For a nice finishing touch, top each slice of cheesecake with a dollop
of whipped cream or whipped topping and half an orange slice just
before serving.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <wB_q7.1409$Ck.3...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>>> I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the worst ever

>>>> Oh no, there have been far worse (the hand twin to name but one) and
>>>> it was worth it for the look on Chandler & Monica's faces when it
>>>> seemed that Joey had undergone a mysterious transformation.

>>> Oh yeah, I forgot the hand twin....oh god.......I thought the end of
>>> season 5 was poor. The "Anavadaversary" joke was terrible.

>> I was in a bad place for that because the cliffhanger was spoilt for me.

> Sorry dude:(

Yeah, well. Shit happens. :(


>>>>> I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.

>>>> Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.

>> After I wrote that, I heard Channel 4 announce that they were pulling
>> the episode, so I had to switch the review. However, if you're keen to
>> discuss 712, I'll post the review for you (with spoiler space).

> Well I've downloaded 50% of 713, I should finish it by this evening so
> I'll watch it tonight and reply. I think we should stay clear of 712 for

> a while, it's funny, it never occurred to me that it could be insensitive
> at the time.

Okay, fair enough. I wonder if 712 will ever be shown, now.


>>> Wohoo! off to watch 710 (again) on S4C after this, I want to see the
>>> reaction on my sister's face when she sees Ross!

>> Oh yes?

> That was the only bit she found funny, she's only 13 though. I don't think
> she gets many of the jokes in friends. I certainly didn't at that age. As
> you age you appreciate the good acting and you get more of the jokes!

Maybe so, but that was the funniest bit for me too.


>> Your first task is to find out what sort of crust it should have, since
>> according to the transcript, Rachel says it's "graham cracker", but that
>> makes no sense to me. Maybe it will for you.

> I don't know, I'll do some research.

Cheers.


>>>>>> Buffay the Vampire Layer.

>>>>> I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title
>>>>> of a porn film.

>>>> They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
>>>> starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
>>>> followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
>>>> and directed by Jack Stephen.

>>> There's something unique, but yet disturbing about the fact that you
>>> knew all that Tennant!

>> Not really, I copied the entries from my private copy of the IMDb.

> I gusssed as much, I was only kidding ;)

Oh, you got me! :)


>>>>>> What about hedgehogs playing trains?

>>>>> Have you been drinking?

>>>> Don't you know about hedgehogs?

>>> Yes, they bark and drink dog food.

>> They also make paths in the long grass, which they run along nose to
>> rump, usually about 3 or 4 of them, making loud chuff-chuff noises.

> Seriously?!

Yep. It's males competing for females.


> Cool, i gotta check them out! (around here they're mostly lying nose to
> the road lying still unfortunately)

In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.


>>>>> Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.

>>>> The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?

>>> The 27 minute one?!

>> The NBC supersized version runs at NTSC speed in 28:02 which converts
>> to PAL speed at 26:55 (the ratio is 24/25 and ignore those idiot geeks
>> on UMTF who'll try to tell you otherwise) which is near enough. Note
>> that the DVD version runs 27:26 at PAL speed, 28:35 at NTSC speed.

>> Do you have the blooper show as well?

> Yeah I just checked it's the 28 minute one, I downloaded it off kazaa ages
> ago. It is the NTSC version because it's the nbc original. I must say I do
> notice the change in speed, their voices are much higher.

The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some people.


> And yes I have the blooper show!

Oh, well done! When C4 shows 715, my review will include the bloopers.


>> Hyperbolic functions always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become


>> sinh, cosh & tanh, which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h &
>> tan-h, but we had to call them shine, cosh & than which was totally
>> inconsistent.

> Well we've just started something similar to sin, cos & tan, I'll find out
> if it is the h-thing. And if we end up calling them shine, cosh and than
> I'll point it out!

Good onyer!


>> Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
>> indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
>> both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
>> got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
>> still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.

> Yeah, I can't imagine Joey in a relationship! All I'm saying is that a
> lot of the time, we hear about dates etc but nothing else. All the
> boyfriends/girlfriends dissapear.

Yes, I know what you mean, but the show is about just six people.


>>>> One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
>>>> waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)

>>> Probably like that Sphynx thing in egypt (with the nose) ;)

>> Lol, yes!

> I can't think of any building that would look like the fists though....

I know, that's why I didn't mention them.


>> It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.

> Yeah....I hate paying for crap movies...i.e. Planet of the Apes.

Oh, friends wanted to go see that, but I insisted on Shrek instead.


>>> I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!

>> It's what the Americans call an aubergine.

> Ohhhh...I prefer a bit of haddock myself ;)

Errr.. yes, if you like?


> Well I've seen every episode, apart from 720 and 722 and now that I look
> that them I must say I agree. Although I can't remember some season 6
> episodes well, I agree wholely with your list of bad episodes. The Eddie
> and Ultimate Fighting champion storylines were poor. I guess it's a case
> of me being picky!

Well, I reckon that "Friends" is so good, we can afford to be picky. :)

CandiGrrl

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> > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> > > > If you want to. Natasha Lyonne stabs somebody in the leg with a fork,
> > > > that's all.
> > > >
> > > Lol, interesting.....I wouldn't mind seeing that actually......
> >
> > It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.
>
> I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!

Go rent it, then! They dance with a vibrator also.

> > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
> > > >
> > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
> > >
> > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
> >
> > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
>
> Lol, is he/she a pedigree?

Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone Country
Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").

> > > > > > Well, never mind. I guess they just wanted some Monica/Rachel
> > > > > > flashbacks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, you win :)
> > > >
> > > > Just like the "I win!" guy!
> > >
> > > I'm sure your not that bad!
> >
> > Maybe, maybe not, wait and see!
>
> Oh c'mon, surely you don't scream "I win" after sex?!

You so don't want to know what I say after sex. :)

> > > > > Ok, you win again!
> > > >
> > > > Oh, it feels so good.
> > >
> > > Don't rub it in!
> >
> > Okay, I'll stop :)
> >
> Thanks, although, I do seem to be giving in a lot!

Yeah, but don't worry about it.

> > > > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
> > > >
> > > > Hehe, maybe.
> > >
> > > Especially in school!
> >
> > Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.
>
> Lucky bugger, thing is I'm in a Welsh secondary school and they're so strict
> for some freakish reason. We're not even allowed to speak English!

Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".

> > > > Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.
> > >
> > > Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"
> >
> > Yep - them, and mobile phones.
>
> Oh god I hate the things, can't stand them. Total waste of time and money.

They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
ringtones?

> > > > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
> > > >
> > > > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the mood,
> > > > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
> > >
> > > Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!
> >
> > It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you want
> > to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
> > breasts.
>
> Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read it....maybe they
> just want to look like discontented housewifes!

Maybe. It's not fashion though.

> > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
> > > >
> > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> > > >
> > > Fun! Gertrude
> >
> > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
>
> I know a Muriel!

I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.

> > > > > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
> > > >
> > > > That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her Kermit
> > > > fetish.
> > > >
> > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
> >
> > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
> > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
>
> That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show! That's so
> cool!

Yay! Hope they incorporate it.

> > > > Probably if I told it out loud I could spin it out for about 5 hours.
> > > > And I only got to the bit where he was eagerly awaiting her.
> > >
> > > Ah...please don't then!
> >
> > I wouldn't be so mean. It would be like torture.
>
> No, not as bad as the boxers in winter!

I could mix that into it somehow.

> > > > > > Sorry!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > We'll never speak of it again...
> > >
> > > Never....some things that have been said can never be repeated....
> >
> > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
>
> Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?

No! It's a tongue twister!

> > > > > > Crying, more like.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave
> rubbish
> > > > > massages!
> > > >
> > > > Aww, poor Mon!
> > >
> > > Well she deserves it for being cocky!
> >
> > No she doesn't!
>
> Yeah totally! Anyone who thinks they're the best at everything deserves a
> smack!

You'd really smack little Monica?

> > > Lol, ok, I only know one person like that and it's because they
> smoke....but
> > > I believ the nodules1
> >
> > I want to grow some.
>
> Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.

Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.

> > > > > > > > >> > ---o0o---


> > > > > > Yep, he's a total R&P fan!
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh no...! R&R forever!
> > > >
> > > > I think that none of them should get together. Not even C&M. I guess I
> > > > don't mind R&R though, and I think that J&M would have been nice. More
> > > > than one couple is pushing it though.
> > >
> > > I think 2 at the end is enough and pushing it.
> >
> > I just don't like the way it's saying that they can't remain platonic.
>
> Platwhat?

Just friends. I guess I prefer R&R to C&M though.

> > > > Maybe he just bought it so that he could melt it down into a really
> > > > funky looking bowl.
> > >
> > > Yeah, isn't it records they do that with?
> >
> > You can do it with CDs too. They also make good frisbees. And you can
> > throw them in the air and take a photo of them framed against the sky
> > and send it to the FBI with a note saying "I HAVE PROOF!!!!!"
>
> Lol, I've tried throwing cd's, that is very fun. Also I've tried braking
> cd's by throwing them against a wall and it's impossible!

I know! You have to snap them and at first they just sort of bend.
They finally snap though, all splintery.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9oiegg$12r$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>>>> ..lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.

>>> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
>>> ex-bedroom have a window?

>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
>> see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
>> if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
>> there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.

> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?

Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".


>>>> "Seinfeld" is relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the episodes
>>>> are being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*, due to
>>>> its cult status (which means that its audience is loyal but tiny).

>>> Did they ever show the one with CC?

>> I guess, for they're at last showing the ninth season, 3½ years after
>> it aired in America, and she was in 517 "The Wife". I've seen the
>> episode on Paramount, and she was dreadfully under-used, but it aired 6
>> months before "Friends" began. However, when CC *was* allowed to do
>> something, she was really quite good. If only they could have got Jerry
>> to shut his mouth.

> Lol, I'd love to see that. Hope they show it one day.

It's not much to see, sweetie. Is "Seinfeld" on Paramount at the mo?


>>>> If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
>>>> other three were hungry enough to even try it.

>>> I would have thought that they could last a little longer than that. I
>>> can go without eating for about three days and from the looks of her,
>>> so can Monica...

>> Monica can do, but she'd look better if she put on more weight.

> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.

Agreed.


>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
>>>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.

>> Ooh, great!

> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is getting old.

Lol, don't mix up the recipes!


>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.

>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.

> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.

Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?


>>>>> My hair smells of Parma Violets.

>>>> Oooooooohhhhh.....

>>> I used to really like them! Can't eat them now.

>> Oh, I thought Parma Violets were a flower scent in shampoo.

> No, they're little purple sweets. Did you really never have them? I
> can't eat them because they have gelatine and I'm a committed vegetarian.

I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.

At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.


>>>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>>>> Why won't you sing for us?

>>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>>> Have you forgot?

>>> They won't let you play guitar,
>>> And Smelly Cat's gone away so far

>> It made your heart leap to sing,
>> But Chandler moans it doesn't swing...

> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
> Why won't you sing for us?
> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
> Have you forgot?

Your heart & soul are torn apart,
David can't deserve your heart,
Since Ross is the one for you,
And then you will not feel blue.

Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Why won't you sing for us?
Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Have you forgot?


And now the last verse!


>>>>> What animals would the others be, based on their names?

>>>> An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.

>>> Hehe, okay. Monica could be a monkey.

>> Ooh, I didn't think of that!

> What's a mongoose? Are they the things that eat snakes?

Yes. They're also very good at killing rats.


>>>>>>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)

>>>>>> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.

>>>>> Can't wait!

>>>> Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was
>>>> already there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane
>>>> the money he had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my
>>>> parcel in. :(

>>> Well, it got here this morning. :)

>> Yeah, I don't understand this. I missed the post on Thursday afternoon,
>> and you got the parcel on Friday morning! Efficient, or what?

> Yep, all hail the postal service!

Hail!!!


>>>>>>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!

>>>>>>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!

>>>>>> The mind boggles...

>>>>> I hoped it would.

>>>> I know, I'm still envisioning it...

>>> Yeah. The answer is, of course, my handbag. Remember?

>> <bracknell> A handbag!? </bracknell>

> At least you didn't start talking about the cucumber sandwiches :)

Oh, I know better than that...


>>>>>> At least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.

>>>>> Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
>>>>> rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
>>>>> have to go back!

>>>> Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
>>>> would demand that David put his work before her.

>>> If he was ill, he couldn't!

>> Nah, Monica is the motherly type, not Phoebe - she'd keep working.

> Well David could get v. pregnant, then he wouldn't be allowed to fly.
> Wait, there could be something wrong with that.

Maybe he could stab a cop instead?


>>>>> And it doesn't fit on the screen.

>>>> You need a wider screen, girl. :)

>>> Totally.

>> What does Mrs.S say about that?

> I haven't even attempted it.

Try it.


>>>>>>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?

>>>>>>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma".
>>>>>>>> I need to catch up.

>>>>>>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!

>>>>>> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.

>>>>> No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.

>>>> Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.

>>> I haven't seen that. That must mean that "Jay And Silent Bob Strike
>>> Back" is a work of genius! My friend Sandy (of the cheesy hair) liked
>>> it a lot.

>> Oh, good-o!

> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.

Oh, with the Sprouse boys?


>>>>>>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
>>>>>>>>> talk like that!

>>>>>>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?

>>>>>>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>>>>>>> movie.

>>>>>> Ah-hah...

>>>>> Which do you prefer then?

>>>> I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(

>>> You could choose anyway... but you'd just choose the same one.

>> Which one?

> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking *too*
> high and helium-y.

I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.


> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
> laughing though.

Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?

There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)


>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

>>> Yes. You said it first though.

>> Did I? When?

> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"

Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)

Tennant Stuart

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Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Here you go Tennant, I might give it a try sometime in the next century...

> CREAMSICLE CHEESECAKE <SNIP>

> One 9-inch graham cracker pie crust <SNIP>

Oh, thanks Owen. So what's a graham cracker?

Jacqui

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Tennant Stuart wrote
> > CREAMSICLE CHEESECAKE <SNIP>
>
> > One 9-inch graham cracker pie crust <SNIP>
>
> Oh, thanks Owen. So what's a graham cracker?

Try digestive biscuits.

Jac

Owen Shiers

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> > > CREAMSICLE CHEESECAKE <SNIP>
> >
> > > One 9-inch graham cracker pie crust <SNIP>
> >
> > Oh, thanks Owen. So what's a graham cracker?
>
> Try digestive biscuits.
>
> Yeah I'm sure it's something like that...couldn't you like smush some
biscuits up?!

Owen


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>
> >>>>> I think the fake Joey storyline was one of the worst ever
>
> >>>> Oh no, there have been far worse (the hand twin to name but one) and
> >>>> it was worth it for the look on Chandler & Monica's faces when it
> >>>> seemed that Joey had undergone a mysterious transformation.
>
> >>> Oh yeah, I forgot the hand twin....oh god.......I thought the end of
> >>> season 5 was poor. The "Anavadaversary" joke was terrible.
>
> >> I was in a bad place for that because the cliffhanger was spoilt for
me.
>
> > Sorry dude:(
>
> Yeah, well. Shit happens. :(

I love that saying...


>
>
> >>>>> I just watched 712 and it was fantastic.
>
> >>>> Good! See my review, which should post itself at 9pm tonight.
>
> >> After I wrote that, I heard Channel 4 announce that they were pulling
> >> the episode, so I had to switch the review. However, if you're keen to
> >> discuss 712, I'll post the review for you (with spoiler space).
>
> > Well I've downloaded 50% of 713, I should finish it by this evening so
> > I'll watch it tonight and reply. I think we should stay clear of 712 for
> > a while, it's funny, it never occurred to me that it could be
insensitive
> > at the time.
>
> Okay, fair enough. I wonder if 712 will ever be shown, now.

Well I would have thought so, maybe when they re-run the series later on on
C4.


>
>
> >>> Wohoo! off to watch 710 (again) on S4C after this, I want to see the
> >>> reaction on my sister's face when she sees Ross!
>
> >> Oh yes?
>
> > That was the only bit she found funny, she's only 13 though. I don't
think
> > she gets many of the jokes in friends. I certainly didn't at that age.
As
> > you age you appreciate the good acting and you get more of the jokes!
>
> Maybe so, but that was the funniest bit for me too.

Oh yeah totally, but that was the only time she laughed...I suppose she just
didn't get any of thr other jokes.


>
>
> >> Your first task is to find out what sort of crust it should have, since
> >> according to the transcript, Rachel says it's "graham cracker", but
that
> >> makes no sense to me. Maybe it will for you.
>
> > I don't know, I'll do some research.
>
> Cheers.
>

I need more info on the Graham Cracker....report back later..


>
> >>>>>> Buffay the Vampire Layer.
>
> >>>>> I'm surprised that no-one else has come up with that as the title
> >>>>> of a porn film.
>
> >>>> They have, almost. First there was "Muffy the Vampire Layer" in 1992,
> >>>> starring P.J.Sparxx and directed by Jean-Pierre Ferrand; and that was
> >>>> followed in 1996 by "Buffy the Vampire Layer", starring Kristi Myst
> >>>> and directed by Jack Stephen.
>
> >>> There's something unique, but yet disturbing about the fact that you
> >>> knew all that Tennant!
>
> >> Not really, I copied the entries from my private copy of the IMDb.
>
> > I gusssed as much, I was only kidding ;)
>
> Oh, you got me! :)

"You almost gave me a heart-attack"


>
>
> >>>>>> What about hedgehogs playing trains?
>
> >>>>> Have you been drinking?
>
> >>>> Don't you know about hedgehogs?
>
> >>> Yes, they bark and drink dog food.
>
> >> They also make paths in the long grass, which they run along nose to
> >> rump, usually about 3 or 4 of them, making loud chuff-chuff noises.
>
> > Seriously?!
>
> Yep. It's males competing for females.
>
>
> > Cool, i gotta check them out! (around here they're mostly lying nose to
> > the road lying still unfortunately)
>
> In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
> shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.

Cool, I havn't seen a live hedgehog around here for ages. But I've never
seen a hedgehog in a city....but then again I don't live in a city!


>
>
> >>>>> Ok, I'll wait till then, though I have seen 715.
>
> >>>> The full version, or the mini version that was hacked to pieces?
>
> >>> The 27 minute one?!
>
> >> The NBC supersized version runs at NTSC speed in 28:02 which converts
> >> to PAL speed at 26:55 (the ratio is 24/25 and ignore those idiot geeks
> >> on UMTF who'll try to tell you otherwise) which is near enough. Note
> >> that the DVD version runs 27:26 at PAL speed, 28:35 at NTSC speed.
>
> >> Do you have the blooper show as well?
>
> > Yeah I just checked it's the 28 minute one, I downloaded it off kazaa
ages
> > ago. It is the NTSC version because it's the nbc original. I must say I
do
> > notice the change in speed, their voices are much higher.
>
> The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some people.

It definitely makes a difference, it's just when I've watched a lot of
episodes on video then watch an NTSC version it freaks me out!


>
>
> > And yes I have the blooper show!
>
> Oh, well done! When C4 shows 715, my review will include the bloopers.

I'm hoping to catch up with C4 by downloading the eps!


>
>
> >> Hyperbolic functions always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become
> >> sinh, cosh & tanh, which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h &
> >> tan-h, but we had to call them shine, cosh & than which was totally
> >> inconsistent.
>
> > Well we've just started something similar to sin, cos & tan, I'll find
out
> > if it is the h-thing. And if we end up calling them shine, cosh and than
> > I'll point it out!
>
> Good onyer!
>

I'm also doing physics! argh!


>
> >> Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
> >> indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
> >> both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
> >> got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
> >> still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.
>
> > Yeah, I can't imagine Joey in a relationship! All I'm saying is that a
> > lot of the time, we hear about dates etc but nothing else. All the
> > boyfriends/girlfriends dissapear.
>
> Yes, I know what you mean, but the show is about just six people.

Yeah....I suppose they'd ruin itif they included others...


>
>
> >>>> One wonders what the architectural equivalent of Ross
> >>>> waggling his elbows behind his ears would look like... :)
>
> >>> Probably like that Sphynx thing in egypt (with the nose) ;)
>
> >> Lol, yes!
>
> > I can't think of any building that would look like the fists though....
>
> I know, that's why I didn't mention them.

Lol, there's gotta be something....out there somewhere. A building can look
like anything now-days.


>
>
> >> It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.
>
> > Yeah....I hate paying for crap movies...i.e. Planet of the Apes.
>
> Oh, friends wanted to go see that, but I insisted on Shrek instead.

Lol, the rest of my family went to see Shrek and said it was amazing...the
end of planet of the apes is crap!


>
>
> >>> I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!
>
> >> It's what the Americans call an aubergine.
>
> > Ohhhh...I prefer a bit of haddock myself ;)
>
> Errr.. yes, if you like?

But why didn't Monica get quorn or something for Phoebe, surely eggplant
doesn't have the nutritional equivalent of steaks?


>
>
> > Well I've seen every episode, apart from 720 and 722 and now that I look
> > that them I must say I agree. Although I can't remember some season 6
> > episodes well, I agree wholely with your list of bad episodes. The Eddie
> > and Ultimate Fighting champion storylines were poor. I guess it's a case
> > of me being picky!
>
> Well, I reckon that "Friends" is so good, we can afford to be picky. :)
>

Yay! Ok then....oh yeah....I was gonna say although the Eddie storyline was
poor, I loved Chandler in it....Chandler driven to desparation is hilarious!
>
> Owen


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> > > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> > > > > If you want to. Natasha Lyonne stabs somebody in the leg with a
fork,
> > > > > that's all.
> > > > >
> > > > Lol, interesting.....I wouldn't mind seeing that actually......
> > >
> > > It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.
> >
> > I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!
>
> Go rent it, then! They dance with a vibrator also.

It just keeps getting better and better!


>
> > > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
> > > >
> > > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
> > >
> > > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
> >
> > Lol, is he/she a pedigree?
>
> Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone Country
> Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").

Because aren't mongrels supposed to be more clever?


>
> > > > > > > Well, never mind. I guess they just wanted some Monica/Rachel
> > > > > > > flashbacks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, you win :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Just like the "I win!" guy!
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure your not that bad!
> > >
> > > Maybe, maybe not, wait and see!
> >
> > Oh c'mon, surely you don't scream "I win" after sex?!
>
> You so don't want to know what I say after sex. :)

Ok, let's stop right there!


>
> > > > > > Ok, you win again!
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, it feels so good.
> > > >
> > > > Don't rub it in!
> > >
> > > Okay, I'll stop :)
> > >
> > Thanks, although, I do seem to be giving in a lot!
>
> Yeah, but don't worry about it.

Ok....I won't


>
> > > > > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hehe, maybe.
> > > >
> > > > Especially in school!
> > >
> > > Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.
> >
> > Lucky bugger, thing is I'm in a Welsh secondary school and they're so
strict
> > for some freakish reason. We're not even allowed to speak English!
>
> Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
> only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".

Yes but you don't say "pump" like "pump", you say it "pimp" !!


>
> > > > > Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.
> > > >
> > > > Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"
> > >
> > > Yep - them, and mobile phones.
> >
> > Oh god I hate the things, can't stand them. Total waste of time and
money.
>
> They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
> ringtones?

I'd have no reason to have one, I can't even get a reception where I live
and they cost loads!


>
> > > > > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the
mood,
> > > > > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!
> > >
> > > It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you want
> > > to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
> > > breasts.
> >
> > Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read it....maybe
they
> > just want to look like discontented housewifes!
>
> Maybe. It's not fashion though.

Ok, so is it makeup and sex and stuff then?


>
> > > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> > > > >
> > > > Fun! Gertrude
> > >
> > > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
> >
> > I know a Muriel!
>
> I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.

Well....ok technically speaking she's called Meriel....but we call her
Muriel to piss her off.


>
> > > > > > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
> > > > >
> > > > > That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her
Kermit
> > > > > fetish.
> > > > >
> > > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
> > >
> > > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
> > > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
> >
> > That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show!
That's so
> > cool!
>
> Yay! Hope they incorporate it.

Well we know Phoebe likes Sesame Street!


>
> > > > > Probably if I told it out loud I could spin it out for about 5
hours.
> > > > > And I only got to the bit where he was eagerly awaiting her.
> > > >
> > > > Ah...please don't then!
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be so mean. It would be like torture.
> >
> > No, not as bad as the boxers in winter!
>
> I could mix that into it somehow.
>
> > > > > > > Sorry!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > We'll never speak of it again...
> > > >
> > > > Never....some things that have been said can never be repeated....
> > >
> > > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
> >
> > Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?
>
> No! It's a tongue twister!

I know...how about "She sells sea shells on the sea shore, and the shells
that she sells are sea shells I'm sure"


>
> > > > > > > Crying, more like.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave
> > rubbish
> > > > > > massages!
> > > > >
> > > > > Aww, poor Mon!
> > > >
> > > > Well she deserves it for being cocky!
> > >
> > > No she doesn't!
> >
> > Yeah totally! Anyone who thinks they're the best at everything deserves
a
> > smack!
>
> You'd really smack little Monica?

Yeah if she was being all big-headed!


>
> > > > Lol, ok, I only know one person like that and it's because they
> > smoke....but
> > > > I believ the nodules1
> > >
> > > I want to grow some.
> >
> > Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.
>
> Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.

Damn!


>
> > > > > > > > > >> > ---o0o---
> > > > > > > Yep, he's a total R&P fan!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh no...! R&R forever!
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that none of them should get together. Not even C&M. I
guess I
> > > > > don't mind R&R though, and I think that J&M would have been nice.
More
> > > > > than one couple is pushing it though.
> > > >
> > > > I think 2 at the end is enough and pushing it.
> > >
> > > I just don't like the way it's saying that they can't remain platonic.
> >
> > Platwhat?
>
> Just friends. I guess I prefer R&R to C&M though.

Yeah me too.....R&R is like....fate....(Owen stares into space)


>
> > > > > Maybe he just bought it so that he could melt it down into a
really
> > > > > funky looking bowl.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, isn't it records they do that with?
> > >
> > > You can do it with CDs too. They also make good frisbees. And you can
> > > throw them in the air and take a photo of them framed against the sky
> > > and send it to the FBI with a note saying "I HAVE PROOF!!!!!"
> >
> > Lol, I've tried throwing cd's, that is very fun. Also I've tried braking
> > cd's by throwing them against a wall and it's impossible!
>
> I know! You have to snap them and at first they just sort of bend.
> They finally snap though, all splintery.

Yeah....I found that out the other day with those damn AOL trials, they're
so annoying!

Owen


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>In article <9oiegg$12r$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
><Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>
>>>>> ..lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.
>
>>>> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
>>>> ex-bedroom have a window?
>
>>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
>>> see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
>>> if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
>>> there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.
>
>> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?
>
>Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".


Oh, okay, that's been puzzling me.

>>>>> "Seinfeld" is relegated to a graveyard slot, even though the episodes
>>>>> are being shown on British network TV for the *first*time*, due to
>>>>> its cult status (which means that its audience is loyal but tiny).
>
>>>> Did they ever show the one with CC?
>
>>> I guess, for they're at last showing the ninth season, 3½ years after
>>> it aired in America, and she was in 517 "The Wife". I've seen the
>>> episode on Paramount, and she was dreadfully under-used, but it aired 6
>>> months before "Friends" began. However, when CC *was* allowed to do
>>> something, she was really quite good. If only they could have got Jerry
>>> to shut his mouth.
>
>> Lol, I'd love to see that. Hope they show it one day.
>
>It's not much to see, sweetie. Is "Seinfeld" on Paramount at the mo?


I don't know...

>>>>> If Joey had enjoyed the wax he would have eaten it all long before the
>>>>> other three were hungry enough to even try it.
>
>>>> I would have thought that they could last a little longer than that. I
>>>> can go without eating for about three days and from the looks of her,
>>>> so can Monica...
>
>>> Monica can do, but she'd look better if she put on more weight.
>
>> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.
>
>Agreed.


I have some pictures of her on the beach a couple of weeks ago, want me to
send you them? She looks nice.

>>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
>>>>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.
>
>>> Ooh, great!
>
>> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is getting
old.
>
>Lol, don't mix up the recipes!


Whyever not?

>>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.
>
>>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.
>
>> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.
>
>Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?


That was Friday!

>>>>>> My hair smells of Parma Violets.
>
>>>>> Oooooooohhhhh.....
>
>>>> I used to really like them! Can't eat them now.
>
>>> Oh, I thought Parma Violets were a flower scent in shampoo.
>
>> No, they're little purple sweets. Did you really never have them? I
>> can't eat them because they have gelatine and I'm a committed vegetarian.
>
>I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.
>
>At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.


You're always eating plums.

>>>>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>>>>> Why won't you sing for us?
>
>>>>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>>>>> Have you forgot?
>
>>>> They won't let you play guitar,
>>>> And Smelly Cat's gone away so far
>
>>> It made your heart leap to sing,
>>> But Chandler moans it doesn't swing...
>
>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>> Why won't you sing for us?
>> Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>> Have you forgot?
>
>Your heart & soul are torn apart,
>David can't deserve your heart,
>Since Ross is the one for you,
>And then you will not feel blue.
>
>Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>Why won't you sing for us?
>Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
>Have you forgot?


Tennant wants you to nab a friend,
Sometime before the series end,
Monica's brother is the one for you,
So hook up and don't feel "le poo"

Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Why won't you sing for us?
Phoebe girl, Phoebe girl,
Have you forgot?

>>>>>> What animals would the others be, based on their names?
>
>>>>> An albatross, a chinchilla, a flea & a bee, a mongoose, and a raccoon.
>
>>>> Hehe, okay. Monica could be a monkey.
>
>>> Ooh, I didn't think of that!
>
>> What's a mongoose? Are they the things that eat snakes?
>
>Yes. They're also very good at killing rats.


There's a mouse in my living room. It's running behind all the chairs and
people are screaming. Meanwhile I'm just sitting here calmly typing.

>>>>>>>> I prefer the cut version of that, I think :)
>
>>>>>>> You won't say that when you see 713-716, they're amazing.
>
>>>>>> Can't wait!
>
>>>>> Annoyingly, when I got to the village post office, the guy was
>>>>> already there filling up his sack, and by the time I'd given Diane
>>>>> the money he had just pulled the drawstring, so he refused to put my
>>>>> parcel in. :(
>
>>>> Well, it got here this morning. :)
>
>>> Yeah, I don't understand this. I missed the post on Thursday afternoon,
>>> and you got the parcel on Friday morning! Efficient, or what?
>
>> Yep, all hail the postal service!
>
>Hail!!!


*calls upon almighty powers to send a little black cloud to Tennant's house
where it hails down*

>>>>>>>>> We will fight them off with our pocket-forks!
>
>>>>>>>> And sock-knives! And spoons that live in other places!
>
>>>>>>> The mind boggles...
>
>>>>>> I hoped it would.
>
>>>>> I know, I'm still envisioning it...
>
>>>> Yeah. The answer is, of course, my handbag. Remember?
>
>>> <bracknell> A handbag!? </bracknell>
>
>> At least you didn't start talking about the cucumber sandwiches :)
>
>Oh, I know better than that...


Hey, guess what? I'm in a book! I'm famous! HA! (the HA! was adlibbing,
guess what movie that's from?)

>>>>>>> At least Pheebs didn't have chicken pox.
>
>>>>>> Yeah, but he could always bring her some noodle water and lick the
>>>>>> rim of the cup so that he caught it too and got sick leave and didn't
>>>>>> have to go back!
>
>>>>> Well that's what I might do, but people keep telling me that Phoebe
>>>>> would demand that David put his work before her.
>
>>>> If he was ill, he couldn't!
>
>>> Nah, Monica is the motherly type, not Phoebe - she'd keep working.
>
>> Well David could get v. pregnant, then he wouldn't be allowed to fly.
>> Wait, there could be something wrong with that.
>
>Maybe he could stab a cop instead?


He could take lessons from Phoebe, then there's no way he'd be able to get a
passport!

>>>>>> And it doesn't fit on the screen.
>
>>>>> You need a wider screen, girl. :)
>
>>>> Totally.
>
>>> What does Mrs.S say about that?
>
>> I haven't even attempted it.
>
>Try it.


Okay. She's here. This is the conversation.

Me: Mum, can we get widescreen?
Her: Widescreen what?
Me: Widescreen TV.
Her: Not at the moment, no.
Me: Please?
Her: Well, not at the moment, no.

I tried!

>>>>>>>>>> Have you seen 'Chasing Amy'?
>
>>>>>>>>> The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen is "Dogma".
>>>>>>>>> I need to catch up.
>
>>>>>>>> I have a movie poster of 'Chasing Amy' that he signed! Yay!
>
>>>>>>> Yay! I saw "Clerks" last night on Film Four. Not impressed.
>
>>>>>> No, I can't say I liked it too much either. 'Amy' was great though.
>
>>>>> Well, I liked "Dogma" a lot, so I guess it improves with each movie.
>
>>>> I haven't seen that. That must mean that "Jay And Silent Bob Strike
>>>> Back" is a work of genius! My friend Sandy (of the cheesy hair) liked
>>>> it a lot.
>
>>> Oh, good-o!
>
>> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.
>
>Oh, with the Sprouse boys?


I'll have to take your word for it, I haven't seen it.

>>>>>>>>>> I agree, Jennifer Tilly's voice is something else! I wish I could
>>>>>>>>>> talk like that!
>
>>>>>>>>> She has two voices in "Bound", which do you prefer?
>
>>>>>>>> The less high-pitched one. She sounds better towards the end of the
>>>>>>>> movie.
>
>>>>>>> Ah-hah...
>
>>>>>> Which do you prefer then?
>
>>>>> I'm a guy, so I don't get a choice. :(
>
>>>> You could choose anyway... but you'd just choose the same one.
>
>>> Which one?
>
>> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking *too*
>> high and helium-y.
>
>I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.


I like the other one better.

>> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
>> laughing though.
>
>Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?
>
>There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
>are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)


It's great! I love it!

>>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?
>
>>>> Yes. You said it first though.
>
>>> Did I? When?
>
>> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"
>
>Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)


Well it was still your idea!


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>
>>
>> > Yeah I just checked it's the 28 minute one, I downloaded it off kazaa
>ages
>> > ago. It is the NTSC version because it's the nbc original. I must say I
>do
>> > notice the change in speed, their voices are much higher.
>>
>> The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some people.
>
>It definitely makes a difference, it's just when I've watched a lot of
>episodes on video then watch an NTSC version it freaks me out!

I've never seen a US show on anything other than PAL, so I have never
heard this change of pitch thing.
>>
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net!

Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/


Owen Shiers

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> >
> >>
> >> > Yeah I just checked it's the 28 minute one, I downloaded it off kazaa
> >ages
> >> > ago. It is the NTSC version because it's the nbc original. I must say
I
> >do
> >> > notice the change in speed, their voices are much higher.
> >>
> >> The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some
people.
> >
> >It definitely makes a difference, it's just when I've watched a lot of
> >episodes on video then watch an NTSC version it freaks me out!
>
> I've never seen a US show on anything other than PAL, so I have never
> heard this change of pitch thing.
> >>
> --
Try downloading an episode.

Owen
>
>


CandiGrrl

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Owen Shiers wrote in message ...

>
>> > > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>> > > > > If you want to. Natasha Lyonne stabs somebody in the leg with a
>fork,
>> > > > > that's all.
>> > > > >
>> > > > Lol, interesting.....I wouldn't mind seeing that actually......
>> > >
>> > > It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.
>> >
>> > I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!
>>
>> Go rent it, then! They dance with a vibrator also.
>
>It just keeps getting better and better!


When you've seen it tell me what you think - and tell me if you thought it
was all about her breasts too!

>> > > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
>> > >
>> > > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
>> >
>> > Lol, is he/she a pedigree?
>>
>> Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone Country
>> Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").
>
>Because aren't mongrels supposed to be more clever?


I have no idea. It certainly works out with Cassie though!

>> > > > > > > Well, never mind. I guess they just wanted some Monica/Rachel
>> > > > > > > flashbacks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Ok, you win :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Just like the "I win!" guy!
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm sure your not that bad!
>> > >
>> > > Maybe, maybe not, wait and see!
>> >
>> > Oh c'mon, surely you don't scream "I win" after sex?!
>>
>> You so don't want to know what I say after sex. :)
>
>Ok, let's stop right there!


Good idea!

>> > > > > > Ok, you win again!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Oh, it feels so good.
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't rub it in!
>> > >
>> > > Okay, I'll stop :)
>> > >
>> > Thanks, although, I do seem to be giving in a lot!
>>
>> Yeah, but don't worry about it.
>
>Ok....I won't
>>
>> > > > > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hehe, maybe.
>> > > >
>> > > > Especially in school!
>> > >
>> > > Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.
>> >
>> > Lucky bugger, thing is I'm in a Welsh secondary school and they're so
>strict
>> > for some freakish reason. We're not even allowed to speak English!
>>
>> Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
>> only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".
>
>Yes but you don't say "pump" like "pump", you say it "pimp" !!


Cool!

>> > > > > Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"
>> > >
>> > > Yep - them, and mobile phones.
>> >
>> > Oh god I hate the things, can't stand them. Total waste of time and
>money.
>>
>> They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
>> ringtones?
>
>I'd have no reason to have one, I can't even get a reception where I live
>and they cost loads!


My dad has one. It's icky.

>> > > > > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in the
>mood,
>> > > > > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!
>> > >
>> > > It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you want
>> > > to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
>> > > breasts.
>> >
>> > Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read it....maybe
>they
>> > just want to look like discontented housewifes!
>>
>> Maybe. It's not fashion though.
>
>Ok, so is it makeup and sex and stuff then?


I really can't say I read it.

>> > > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
>> > > > >
>> > > > Fun! Gertrude
>> > >
>> > > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
>> >
>> > I know a Muriel!
>>
>> I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.
>
>Well....ok technically speaking she's called Meriel....but we call her
>Muriel to piss her off.


Meriel's prettier than Muriel.

>> > > > > > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her
>Kermit
>> > > > > fetish.
>> > > > >
>> > > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
>> > >
>> > > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
>> > > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
>> >
>> > That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show!
>That's so
>> > cool!
>>
>> Yay! Hope they incorporate it.
>
>Well we know Phoebe likes Sesame Street!


Yeah, and it helps explain why she chose to live with Monica!

>> > > > > Probably if I told it out loud I could spin it out for about 5
>hours.
>> > > > > And I only got to the bit where he was eagerly awaiting her.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ah...please don't then!
>> > >
>> > > I wouldn't be so mean. It would be like torture.
>> >
>> > No, not as bad as the boxers in winter!
>>
>> I could mix that into it somehow.
>>
>> > > > > > > Sorry!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We'll never speak of it again...
>> > > >
>> > > > Never....some things that have been said can never be repeated....
>> > >
>> > > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
>> >
>> > Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?
>>
>> No! It's a tongue twister!
>
>I know...how about "She sells sea shells on the sea shore, and the shells
>that she sells are sea shells I'm sure"


I found one the other day but I've forgotten it now. (What was the point in
writing that?)

>> > > > > > > Crying, more like.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she gave
>> > rubbish
>> > > > > > massages!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Aww, poor Mon!
>> > > >
>> > > > Well she deserves it for being cocky!
>> > >
>> > > No she doesn't!
>> >
>> > Yeah totally! Anyone who thinks they're the best at everything deserves
>a
>> > smack!
>>
>> You'd really smack little Monica?
>
>Yeah if she was being all big-headed!


Aww! I so wouldn't!

>> > > > Lol, ok, I only know one person like that and it's because they
>> > smoke....but
>> > > > I believ the nodules1
>> > >
>> > > I want to grow some.
>> >
>> > Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.
>>
>> Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.
>
>Damn!


I'll have to take up smoking then.

>> > > > > > > > > >> > ---o0o---
>> > > > > > > Yep, he's a total R&P fan!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Oh no...! R&R forever!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think that none of them should get together. Not even C&M. I
>guess I
>> > > > > don't mind R&R though, and I think that J&M would have been nice.
>More
>> > > > > than one couple is pushing it though.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think 2 at the end is enough and pushing it.
>> > >
>> > > I just don't like the way it's saying that they can't remain
platonic.
>> >
>> > Platwhat?
>>
>> Just friends. I guess I prefer R&R to C&M though.
>
>Yeah me too.....R&R is like....fate....(Owen stares into space)


Hehe!

>> > > > > Maybe he just bought it so that he could melt it down into a
>really
>> > > > > funky looking bowl.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yeah, isn't it records they do that with?
>> > >
>> > > You can do it with CDs too. They also make good frisbees. And you can
>> > > throw them in the air and take a photo of them framed against the sky
>> > > and send it to the FBI with a note saying "I HAVE PROOF!!!!!"
>> >
>> > Lol, I've tried throwing cd's, that is very fun. Also I've tried
braking
>> > cd's by throwing them against a wall and it's impossible!
>>
>> I know! You have to snap them and at first they just sort of bend.
>> They finally snap though, all splintery.
>
>Yeah....I found that out the other day with those damn AOL trials, they're
>so annoying!


I tried it out on a CD that came with a pizza once, something about chilis I
think.


Paul Hyett

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>>
>> I've never seen a US show on anything other than PAL, so I have never
>> heard this change of pitch thing.
>> --
>Try downloading an episode.
>
No thanks - I don't have broadband access, so it would cost more than
going out and buying an episode!

Owen Shiers

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> >>
> >> I've never seen a US show on anything other than PAL, so I have never
> >> heard this change of pitch thing.
> >> --
> >Try downloading an episode.
> >
> No thanks - I don't have broadband access, so it would cost more than
> going out and buying an episode!
> --

> I use a modem!>
>


Owen Shiers

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>
> Owen Shiers wrote in message ...
> >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> >> > > > > If you want to. Natasha Lyonne stabs somebody in the leg with a
> >fork,
> >> > > > > that's all.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > Lol, interesting.....I wouldn't mind seeing that actually......
> >> > >
> >> > > It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.
> >> >
> >> > I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!
> >>
> >> Go rent it, then! They dance with a vibrator also.
> >
> >It just keeps getting better and better!
>
>
> When you've seen it tell me what you think - and tell me if you thought it
> was all about her breasts too!

Ok....I'll *try* and look for it!


>
> >> > > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
> >> > >
> >> > > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
> >> >
> >> > Lol, is he/she a pedigree?
> >>
> >> Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone Country
> >> Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").
> >
> >Because aren't mongrels supposed to be more clever?
>
>
> I have no idea. It certainly works out with Cassie though!

Lol, well my dog is stupid anyway, and she's a mongrel!
>

>

> >> > > > > > Does sound a bit like perve though, have to be careful!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hehe, maybe.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Especially in school!
> >> > >
> >> > > Well I left school quite a few years ago so I guess I'm okay.
> >> >
> >> > Lucky bugger, thing is I'm in a Welsh secondary school and they're so
> >strict
> >> > for some freakish reason. We're not even allowed to speak English!
> >>
> >> Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
> >> only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".
> >
> >Yes but you don't say "pump" like "pump", you say it "pimp" !!
>
>
> Cool!

Yeah it's a hard language though


>
> >> > > > > Ross might have mentioned it to her though... evil writers.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes they are "minions of the anti-christ"
> >> > >
> >> > > Yep - them, and mobile phones.
> >> >
> >> > Oh god I hate the things, can't stand them. Total waste of time and
> >money.
> >>
> >> They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
> >> ringtones?
> >
> >I'd have no reason to have one, I can't even get a reception where I live
> >and they cost loads!
>
>
> My dad has one. It's icky.

ah....icky?!


>
> >> > > > > > > Fashion. Faaabulous, dahling.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Don't you read Vogue or Cosmo or something?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Cosmo isn't fashion. I read Vogue also, and Elle when I'm in
the
> >mood,
> >> > > > > but Harper's Bazaar whips all of them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wow, what the hell is cosmo then!
> >> > >
> >> > > It's what you read when you're a discontented housewife and you
want
> >> > > to know how to achieve better orgasms and disguise your lopsided
> >> > > breasts.
> >> >
> >> > Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read
it....maybe
> >they
> >> > just want to look like discontented housewifes!
> >>
> >> Maybe. It's not fashion though.
> >
> >Ok, so is it makeup and sex and stuff then?
>
>
> I really can't say I read it.

Ok Elle.


>
> >> > > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > Fun! Gertrude
> >> > >
> >> > > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
> >> >
> >> > I know a Muriel!
> >>
> >> I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.
> >
> >Well....ok technically speaking she's called Meriel....but we call her
> >Muriel to piss her off.
>
>
> Meriel's prettier than Muriel.

Yeah...people still call her Muriel...hehe


>
> >> > > > > > Ohhhhh I like that, how about Edwina aswell?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > That *is* funny! How about "Elmo"? It would go well with her
> >Kermit
> >> > > > > fetish.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
> >> > >
> >> > > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
> >> > > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
> >> >
> >> > That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show!
> >That's so
> >> > cool!
> >>
> >> Yay! Hope they incorporate it.
> >
> >Well we know Phoebe likes Sesame Street!
>
>
> Yeah, and it helps explain why she chose to live with Monica!

This is getting silly


>
> >> > > > > Probably if I told it out loud I could spin it out for about 5
> >hours.
> >> > > > > And I only got to the bit where he was eagerly awaiting her.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ah...please don't then!
> >> > >
> >> > > I wouldn't be so mean. It would be like torture.
> >> >
> >> > No, not as bad as the boxers in winter!
> >>
> >> I could mix that into it somehow.
> >>
> >> > > > > > > Sorry!
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We'll never speak of it again...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Never....some things that have been said can never be
repeated....
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
> >> >
> >> > Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?
> >>
> >> No! It's a tongue twister!
> >
> >I know...how about "She sells sea shells on the sea shore, and the shells
> >that she sells are sea shells I'm sure"
>
>
> I found one the other day but I've forgotten it now. (What was the point
in
> writing that?)

I don't really know!? I know more that I've forgotten!


>
> >> > > > > > > Crying, more like.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Yeah, just look at her reaction when Chandler told her she
gave
> >> > rubbish
> >> > > > > > massages!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Aww, poor Mon!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Well she deserves it for being cocky!
> >> > >
> >> > > No she doesn't!
> >> >
> >> > Yeah totally! Anyone who thinks they're the best at everything
deserves
> >a
> >> > smack!
> >>
> >> You'd really smack little Monica?
> >
> >Yeah if she was being all big-headed!
>
>
> Aww! I so wouldn't!
>

Anyone who's big-headed deserves a smack!

> >> > > > Lol, ok, I only know one person like that and it's because they
> >> > smoke....but
> >> > > > I believ the nodules1
> >> > >
> >> > > I want to grow some.
> >> >
> >> > Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.
> >>
> >> Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.
> >
> >Damn!
>
>
> I'll have to take up smoking then.

U smoke?
>

>
> >> > > > > Maybe he just bought it so that he could melt it down into a
> >really
> >> > > > > funky looking bowl.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yeah, isn't it records they do that with?
> >> > >
> >> > > You can do it with CDs too. They also make good frisbees. And you
can
> >> > > throw them in the air and take a photo of them framed against the
sky
> >> > > and send it to the FBI with a note saying "I HAVE PROOF!!!!!"
> >> >
> >> > Lol, I've tried throwing cd's, that is very fun. Also I've tried
> braking
> >> > cd's by throwing them against a wall and it's impossible!
> >>
> >> I know! You have to snap them and at first they just sort of bend.
> >> They finally snap though, all splintery.
> >
> >Yeah....I found that out the other day with those damn AOL trials,
they're
> >so annoying!
>
>
> I tried it out on a CD that came with a pizza once, something about chilis
I
> think.
>

It's very good therapy!

Owen
>


Tennant Stuart

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In article <Qihr7.6775$Ck.12...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Jacqui"
<sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote

>>> CREAMSICLE CHEESECAKE <SNIP>

> Try digestive biscuits.

Lol thanks, is that all it is?

So is "Graham Cracker" a brand name?

Why don't they call them Graham Cookies?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <mmjr7.7414$Ck.13...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> I wonder if 712 will ever be shown, now.

> Well I would have thought so, maybe when they re-run the series later on
> on C4.

Maybe.


>> That was the funniest bit for me too.

> Oh yeah totally, but that was the only time she laughed...I suppose she

> just didn't get any of the other jokes.


She'll discover it later.


> I need more info on the Graham Cracker....report back later..

Jacqui says that they're just digestive biscuits.


>> In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
>> shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.

> Cool, I havn't seen a live hedgehog around here for ages. But I've never
> seen a hedgehog in a city....but then again I don't live in a city!

I live in the countryside too, but there are still hedgehogs around.


>> The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some
>> people.

> It definitely makes a difference, it's just when I've watched a lot of
> episodes on video then watch an NTSC version it freaks me out!

You should listen to the French voices on the DVDs.


>>> And yes I have the blooper show!

>> Oh, well done! When C4 shows 715, my review will include the bloopers.

> I'm hoping to catch up with C4 by downloading the eps!

Big phone bills?


>>>> Hyperbolic functions always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become
>>>> sinh, cosh & tanh, which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h &
>>>> tan-h, but we had to call them shine, cosh & than which was totally
>>>> inconsistent.

>>> Well we've just started something similar to sin, cos & tan, I'll find
>>> out if it is the h-thing. And if we end up calling them shine, cosh
>>> and than I'll point it out!

>> Good onyer!

> I'm also doing physics! argh!

Doddle.


>>>> Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
>>>> indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
>>>> both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
>>>> got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
>>>> still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.

>>> Yeah, I can't imagine Joey in a relationship! All I'm saying is that a
>>> lot of the time, we hear about dates etc but nothing else. All the

>>> boyfriends/girlfriends disappear.

>> Yes, I know what you mean, but the show is about just six people.

> Yeah....I suppose they'd ruin it if they included others...

Yes, they were very lucky to hit on a magic ensemble from the start.


> Lol, there's gotta be something....out there somewhere. A building can
> look like anything now-days.

Even Kylie?


>>>> It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.

>>> Yeah....I hate paying for crap movies...i.e. Planet of the Apes.

>> Oh, friends wanted to go see that, but I insisted on Shrek instead.

> Lol, the rest of my family went to see Shrek and said it was amazing...

Told ya.


>>>> end of planet of the apes is crap!

Isn't it the same as the old movie?


>>>>> I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!

>>>> It's what the Americans call an aubergine.

>>> Ohhhh...I prefer a bit of haddock myself ;)

>> Errr.. yes, if you like?

> But why didn't Monica get quorn or something for Phoebe, surely eggplant
> doesn't have the nutritional equivalent of steaks?

What's quorn?


>>> I guess it's a case of me being picky!

>> Well, I reckon that "Friends" is so good, we can afford to be picky. :)

> Yay! Ok then....oh yeah....I was gonna say although the Eddie storyline

> was poor, I loved Chandler in it....Chandler driven to desperation is
> hilarious!

I'm glad for you, but I so hated Eddie that it spoilt the other stories
in the three episodes - and some of them are very good.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9ol2v9$92i$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...

>>>>>> ..lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.

>>>>> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
>>>>> ex-bedroom have a window?

>>>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
>>>> see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
>>>> if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
>>>> there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.

>>> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?

>> Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".

> Oh, okay, that's been puzzling me.

Natch.


>>>> When CC *was* allowed to do something, she was really quite good. If


>>>> only they could have got Jerry to shut his mouth.

>>> Lol, I'd love to see that. Hope they show it one day.

>> It's not much to see, sweetie. Is "Seinfeld" on Paramount at the mo?

> I don't know...

Me neither.


>>>> Monica would look better if she put on more weight.

>>> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.

>> Agreed.

> I have some pictures of her on the beach a couple of weeks ago, want me
> to send you them? She looks nice.

Oh, yeah! :)


>>>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
>>>>>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.

>>>> Ooh, great!

>>> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is getting
>>> old.

>> Lol, don't mix up the recipes!

> Whyever not?

Dried petals in the pudding?


>>>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.

>>>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.

>>> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.

>> Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?

> That was Friday!

Eep, losing track of time again... :(


>> I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.

>> At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.

> You're always eating plums.

I've got an awful lot of plums!

Guess what I'm doing right now...

Yay! Well done! That was sooooo brillilliant, sweetie!

> There's a mouse in my living room. It's running behind all the chairs and
> people are screaming. Meanwhile I'm just sitting here calmly typing.

Good for you. You should get hold of some more mice, and get a real plague
going. Then offer to remove them in return for a digital widescreen TV.


>> Hail!!!

> *calls upon almighty powers to send a little black cloud to Tennant's
> house where it hails down*

Non-fattening chocolate!!!


> Hey, guess what? I'm in a book!

What what what?


> I'm famous! HA! (the HA! was adlibbing, guess what movie that's from?)

Something with Al Pacino in it?


>>> Well David could get v. pregnant, then he wouldn't be allowed to fly.
>>> Wait, there could be something wrong with that.

>> Maybe he could stab a cop instead?

> He could take lessons from Phoebe, then there's no way he'd be able to
> get a passport!

That's the idea!


>>>> What does Mrs.S say about a wider screen?

>>> I haven't even attempted it.

>> Try it.

> Okay. She's here. This is the conversation.

> Me: Mum, can we get widescreen?
> Her: Widescreen what?
> Me: Widescreen TV.
> Her: Not at the moment, no.
> Me: Please?
> Her: Well, not at the moment, no.

> I tried!

Well of courrrrrrse, if you're gonna do it like that.

You've gotta ask her in such a way that she can't say no.


>>> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.

>> Oh, with the Sprouse boys?

> I'll have to take your word for it, I haven't seen it.

Me neither - I had the chance, but didn't bother.


>>>> Which one?

>>> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking
>>> *too* high and helium-y.

>> I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.

> I like the other one better.

But of course. :)


>>> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
>>> laughing though.

>> Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?

>> There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
>> are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)

> It's great! I love it!

That's why I wanted so much for you to hear it.


>>>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

>>>>> Yes. You said it first though.

>>>> Did I? When?

>>> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"

>> Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)

> Well it was still your idea!

Strictly speaking, the suggestion was not that Monica still pines for
Richard, but that she might keep him safe in a corner of her heart. :)

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.ce20f44abf...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9ol2v9$92i$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart wrote in message ...
>
> >>>>>> ..lest we end up worrying about the size of Monica's bedrooms.
>
> >>>>> That didn't actually cross my mind until then - and does Rachel's
> >>>>> ex-bedroom have a window?
>
> >>>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows. Off the top of my head you can
> >>>> see that window in 606 "TOO the Last Night". It's rarely seen because
> >>>> if *you* go into the room you'll end up in Central Perk, which is why
> >>>> there's that awkward little wall sticking out just inside the door.
>
> >>> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?
>
> >> Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".
>
> > Oh, okay, that's been puzzling me.
>
> Natch.

It would still be dark in there though.

> >>>> When CC *was* allowed to do something, she was really quite good. If
> >>>> only they could have got Jerry to shut his mouth.
>
> >>> Lol, I'd love to see that. Hope they show it one day.
>
> >> It's not much to see, sweetie. Is "Seinfeld" on Paramount at the mo?
>
> > I don't know...
>
> Me neither.

Well never mind.

> >>>> Monica would look better if she put on more weight.
>
> >>> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.
>
> >> Agreed.
>
> > I have some pictures of her on the beach a couple of weeks ago, want me
> > to send you them? She looks nice.
>
> Oh, yeah! :)

I'll send you them when I reply to your email :)

> >>>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was. I'll
> >>>>>> send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.
>
> >>>> Ooh, great!
>
> >>> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is getting
> >>> old.
>
> >> Lol, don't mix up the recipes!
>
> > Whyever not?
>
> Dried petals in the pudding?

It adds a special flavour.

> >>>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.
>
> >>>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.
>
> >>> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.
>
> >> Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?
>
> > That was Friday!
>
> Eep, losing track of time again... :(

You're getting senile or something... j/k

> >> I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.
>
> >> At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.
>
> > You're always eating plums.
>
> I've got an awful lot of plums!
>
> Guess what I'm doing right now...

I wonder?

Why thankyou. It would just go whizzing up the charts!

> > There's a mouse in my living room. It's running behind all the chairs and
> > people are screaming. Meanwhile I'm just sitting here calmly typing.
>
> Good for you. You should get hold of some more mice, and get a real plague
> going. Then offer to remove them in return for a digital widescreen TV.

I like mice. They're sweet. My mother likes them too, that's the
problem. I'm not sure why she was screaming.

> >> Hail!!!
>
> > *calls upon almighty powers to send a little black cloud to Tennant's
> > house where it hails down*
>
> Non-fattening chocolate!!!

*ditto*

> > Hey, guess what? I'm in a book!
>
> What what what?

Tapehead's book. I'm in the thankyous bit.

> > I'm famous! HA! (the HA! was adlibbing, guess what movie that's from?)
>
> Something with Al Pacino in it?

No, forget about the "I'm famous" bit. Concentrate on the ad-libbing
and the HA!

> >>> Well David could get v. pregnant, then he wouldn't be allowed to fly.
> >>> Wait, there could be something wrong with that.
>
> >> Maybe he could stab a cop instead?
>
> > He could take lessons from Phoebe, then there's no way he'd be able to
> > get a passport!
>
> That's the idea!

Yay!

> >>>> What does Mrs.S say about a wider screen?
>
> >>> I haven't even attempted it.
>
> >> Try it.
>
> > Okay. She's here. This is the conversation.
>
> > Me: Mum, can we get widescreen?
> > Her: Widescreen what?
> > Me: Widescreen TV.
> > Her: Not at the moment, no.
> > Me: Please?
> > Her: Well, not at the moment, no.
>
> > I tried!
>
> Well of courrrrrrse, if you're gonna do it like that.
>
> You've gotta ask her in such a way that she can't say no.

How?

> >>> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.
>
> >> Oh, with the Sprouse boys?
>
> > I'll have to take your word for it, I haven't seen it.
>
> Me neither - I had the chance, but didn't bother.

You probably didn't miss much.

> >>>> Which one?
>
> >>> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking
> >>> *too* high and helium-y.
>
> >> I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.
>
> > I like the other one better.
>
> But of course. :)

Why of course?

> >>> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
> >>> laughing though.
>
> >> Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?
>
> >> There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
> >> are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)
>
> > It's great! I love it!
>
> That's why I wanted so much for you to hear it.

Thankyou!!

> >>>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?
>
> >>>>> Yes. You said it first though.
>
> >>>> Did I? When?
>
> >>> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"
>
> >> Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)
>
> > Well it was still your idea!
>
> Strictly speaking, the suggestion was not that Monica still pines for
> Richard, but that she might keep him safe in a corner of her heart. :)

She still does, probably. When she gazes upon her fiance and all seems
to be happy, a little part of her inside wishes that he had a
moustache and a cigar and the title of "Dr"...

CandiGrrl

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"Owen Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<SRLr7.3233$2K4.7...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
>
> > >> > > It's okay. It's mainly about her breasts though.
>
> > >> > I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that!
>
> > >> Go rent it, then! They dance with a vibrator also.
>
> > >It just keeps getting better and better!
>
> > When you've seen it tell me what you think - and tell me if you thought it
> > was all about her breasts too!
>
> Ok....I'll *try* and look for it!

Okay :)

> > >> > > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
>
> > >> > > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
>
> > >> > > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
>
> > >> > > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
>
> > >> > Lol, is he/she a pedigree?
>
> > >> Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone Country
> > >> Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").
>
> > >Because aren't mongrels supposed to be more clever?
>
> > I have no idea. It certainly works out with Cassie though!
>
> Lol, well my dog is stupid anyway, and she's a mongrel!

What kind? I used to have a bearded collie crossed with something
unidentifiable. She was really clever actually.

> > >> Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
> > >> only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".
> >
> > >Yes but you don't say "pump" like "pump", you say it "pimp" !!
>
> > Cool!
>
> Yeah it's a hard language though

I bet it is!

> > >> They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
> > >> ringtones?
>
> > >I'd have no reason to have one, I can't even get a reception where I live
> > >and they cost loads!
>
> > My dad has one. It's icky.
>
> ah....icky?!

Yeah, totally disgusting. It looks like a little toy or something.

> > >> > Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read
> it....maybe
> they
> > >> > just want to look like discontented housewifes!
>
> > >> Maybe. It's not fashion though.
>
> > >Ok, so is it makeup and sex and stuff then?
>
> > I really can't say I read it.
>
> Ok Elle.

I can't think of anything else to say now, Boris.

> > >> > > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
>
> > >> > > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
>
> > >> > > > Fun! Gertrude
>
> > >> > > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
>
> > >> > I know a Muriel!
>
> > >> I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.
>
> > >Well....ok technically speaking she's called Meriel....but we call her
> > >Muriel to piss her off.
>
> > Meriel's prettier than Muriel.
>
> Yeah...people still call her Muriel...hehe

Hehe, well, never mind.

> > >> > > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
>
> > >> > > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think about
> > >> > > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
>
> > >> > That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the show!
> That's so
> > >> > cool!
>
> > >> Yay! Hope they incorporate it.
>
> > >Well we know Phoebe likes Sesame Street!
>
> > Yeah, and it helps explain why she chose to live with Monica!
>
> This is getting silly

Maybe a little bit...

> > >> > > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
>
> > >> > Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?
>
> > >> No! It's a tongue twister!
>
> > >I know...how about "She sells sea shells on the sea shore, and the shells
> > >that she sells are sea shells I'm sure"
>
> > I found one the other day but I've forgotten it now. (What was the point
> in
> > writing that?)
>
> I don't really know!? I know more that I've forgotten!

Do you ever wonder what the point in this thread is? Lol.

> > >> You'd really smack little Monica?
>
> > >Yeah if she was being all big-headed!
>
> > Aww! I so wouldn't!
>
> Anyone who's big-headed deserves a smack!

I don't think she was even being that big-headed. She was just trying
to do something nice!

> > >> > Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.
>
> > >> Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.
>
> > >Damn!
>
> > I'll have to take up smoking then.
>
> U smoke?

Sure, as from one day.

> > I tried it out on a CD that came with a pizza once, something about chilis
> I
> > think.
>
> It's very good therapy!

Yeah, it so is! I'm thinking of killing my Britney Spears CD (don't
ask!).

Paul Hyett

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considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>> >> --
>> >Try downloading an episode.
>> >
>> No thanks - I don't have broadband access, so it would cost more than
>> going out and buying an episode!
>> --
>> I use a modem!>

... and your lottery win to pay for the phone calls? :)

Paul Hyett

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this

considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>>> In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
>>> shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.
>
>> Cool, I havn't seen a live hedgehog around here for ages. But I've never
>> seen a hedgehog in a city....but then again I don't live in a city!
>
>I live in the countryside too, but there are still hedgehogs around.
>
Funny you should mention hedgehogs - I just saw one last night for the
first time in years!

Owen Shiers

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> >> >> --
> >> >Try downloading an episode.
> >> >
> >> No thanks - I don't have broadband access, so it would cost more than
> >> going out and buying an episode!
> >> --
> >> I use a modem!>
>
> ... and your lottery win to pay for the phone calls? :)
> --
£0 - ntl
>
>


Owen Shiers

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> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >711 "TOW All the Cheesecakes"
> >

>


> > > >> > > > > > Not in the same house as a dog!
> >
> > > >> > > > > I have a dog too. My dog didn't mind.
> >
> > > >> > > > Wow! My dog eats cats for breakfast.
> >
> > > >> > > My dog's too stupid to be able to catch one.
> >
> > > >> > Lol, is he/she a pedigree?
> >
> > > >> Yes, she's a purebred Irish setter. Her show name is Orstone
Country
> > > >> Lass but we just call her Cassie (or "That damn dog").
> >
> > > >Because aren't mongrels supposed to be more clever?
> >
> > > I have no idea. It certainly works out with Cassie though!
> >
> > Lol, well my dog is stupid anyway, and she's a mongrel!
>
> What kind? I used to have a bearded collie crossed with something
> unidentifiable. She was really clever actually.

Urm Lab/Sheff bull I think, she's got a really gentle nature


>
> > > >> Well then the perve/peeve thing shouldn't be a problem, right? The
> > > >> only thing I can say in Welsh is "moron". And "pump".
> > >
> > > >Yes but you don't say "pump" like "pump", you say it "pimp" !!
> >
> > > Cool!
> >
> > Yeah it's a hard language though
>
> I bet it is!

I can't still say the alphabet even though I'm fluent!


>
> > > >> They really are! And what's with those covers, and the S Club 7
> > > >> ringtones?
> >
> > > >I'd have no reason to have one, I can't even get a reception where I
live
> > > >and they cost loads!
> >
> > > My dad has one. It's icky.
> >
> > ah....icky?!
>
> Yeah, totally disgusting. It looks like a little toy or something.

Is it toy enough for a dog to accidentally chew?.....hehe


>
> > > >> > Ahh.....but that doesn't explain why most girls my age read
> > it....maybe
> > they
> > > >> > just want to look like discontented housewifes!
> >
> > > >> Maybe. It's not fashion though.
> >
> > > >Ok, so is it makeup and sex and stuff then?
> >
> > > I really can't say I read it.
> >
> > Ok Elle.
>
> I can't think of anything else to say now, Boris.

Ok...I'll delete this part of the convo!


>
> > > >> > > > > > Ok Glenda ;)
> >
> > > >> > > > > Glad you agree, Mavis. (Well, why not)
> >
> > > >> > > > Fun! Gertrude
> >
> > > >> > > So am I a "G" name? That's okay with me, Muriel.
> >
> > > >> > I know a Muriel!
> >
> > > >> I think I have an auntie somewhere named Muriel.
> >
> > > >Well....ok technically speaking she's called Meriel....but we call
her
> > > >Muriel to piss her off.
> >
> > > Meriel's prettier than Muriel.
> >
> > Yeah...people still call her Muriel...hehe
>
> Hehe, well, never mind.

Another conv. that's running thin...you never know what to do when it gets
down to "ok"


>
> > > >> > > > Ok we might aswell go onto Big Bird now!
> >
> > > >> > > Monica Big-Bird Geller. Definitely has a ring. And just think
about
> > > >> > > Monica Big-Bird Bing!
> >
> > > >> > That has to be a definite option! We should send it into the
show!
> > That's so
> > > >> > cool!
> >
> > > >> Yay! Hope they incorporate it.
> >
> > > >Well we know Phoebe likes Sesame Street!
> >
> > > Yeah, and it helps explain why she chose to live with Monica!
> >
> > This is getting silly
>
> Maybe a little bit...

But I like sillyness....are you a monty python fan?


>
> > > >> > > Yeah like "Red lolly yellow lolly".
> >
> > > >> > Have you been eating red lollies with something in them?
> >
> > > >> No! It's a tongue twister!
> >
> > > >I know...how about "She sells sea shells on the sea shore, and the
shells
> > > >that she sells are sea shells I'm sure"
> >
> > > I found one the other day but I've forgotten it now. (What was the
point
> > in
> > > writing that?)
> >
> > I don't really know!? I know more that I've forgotten!
>
> Do you ever wonder what the point in this thread is? Lol.

Yes....all the time!


>
> > > >> You'd really smack little Monica?
> >
> > > >Yeah if she was being all big-headed!
> >
> > > Aww! I so wouldn't!
> >
> > Anyone who's big-headed deserves a smack!
>
> I don't think she was even being that big-headed. She was just trying
> to do something nice!

Boasting isn't nice!


>
> > > >> > Can you grow them? I think that voice is sexy.
> >
> > > >> Yeah me too but I don't think you can grow them. That sucks.
> >
> > > >Damn!
> >
> > > I'll have to take up smoking then.
> >
> > U smoke?
>
> Sure, as from one day.
>
> > > I tried it out on a CD that came with a pizza once, something about
chilis
> > I
> > > think.
> >
> > It's very good therapy!
>
> Yeah, it so is! I'm thinking of killing my Britney Spears CD (don't
> ask!).

Yes! Please do! OK a deal...you break Britney I'll break Spice Girls!

Owen


Owen Shiers

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>
> >> I wonder if 712 will ever be shown, now.
>
> > Well I would have thought so, maybe when they re-run the series later on
> > on C4.
>
> Maybe.

I think if it's long enough after the tradgedy they will.


>
>
> >> That was the funniest bit for me too.
>
> > Oh yeah totally, but that was the only time she laughed...I suppose she
> > just didn't get any of the other jokes.
>
>
> She'll discover it later.

I did...I discovered it very late! Wish I had earlier


>
>
> > I need more info on the Graham Cracker....report back later..
>
> Jacqui says that they're just digestive biscuits.

Yeah that's all I could find...and you mush them or something...


>
>
> >> In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
> >> shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.
>
> > Cool, I havn't seen a live hedgehog around here for ages. But I've never
> > seen a hedgehog in a city....but then again I don't live in a city!
>
> I live in the countryside too, but there are still hedgehogs around.

Can I ask where? (I like typecasting-but I can't typecast you! It's too
late!)


>
>
> >> The pitch change doesn't worry me, but annoys the hell out of some
> >> people.
>
> > It definitely makes a difference, it's just when I've watched a lot of
> > episodes on video then watch an NTSC version it freaks me out!
>
> You should listen to the French voices on the DVDs.

Oh god.....


>
>
> >>> And yes I have the blooper show!
>
> >> Oh, well done! When C4 shows 715, my review will include the bloopers.
>
> > I'm hoping to catch up with C4 by downloading the eps!
>
> Big phone bills?

£0 - the wonders of ntl


>
>
> >>>> Hyperbolic functions always annoyed me because sin, cos & tan become
> >>>> sinh, cosh & tanh, which to me should be pronounced sine-h, coz-h &
> >>>> tan-h, but we had to call them shine, cosh & than which was totally
> >>>> inconsistent.
>
> >>> Well we've just started something similar to sin, cos & tan, I'll find
> >>> out if it is the h-thing. And if we end up calling them shine, cosh
> >>> and than I'll point it out!
>
> >> Good onyer!
>
> > I'm also doing physics! argh!
>
> Doddle.

Stop it! I'm also doing art ( you can't say that's easy!)


>
>
> >>>> Oh, well earlier on was different. When the show began, Monica was
> >>>> indeed an oat-sowin', field-playin' juggler, while Ross & Rachel were
> >>>> both escaping from marriages (but from opposite ends), Joey had just
> >>>> got out of a three year relationship, and both Phoebe & Chandler were
> >>>> still in relationships though we don't know how long they'd lasted.
>
> >>> Yeah, I can't imagine Joey in a relationship! All I'm saying is that a
> >>> lot of the time, we hear about dates etc but nothing else. All the
> >>> boyfriends/girlfriends disappear.
>
> >> Yes, I know what you mean, but the show is about just six people.
>
> > Yeah....I suppose they'd ruin it if they included others...
>
> Yes, they were very lucky to hit on a magic ensemble from the start.

Yeah...didn't JA audition for Monica?


>
>
> > Lol, there's gotta be something....out there somewhere. A building can
> > look like anything now-days.
>
> Even Kylie?

I don't know about that one....


>
>
> >>>> It's worth watching as long as you don't pay for it.
>
> >>> Yeah....I hate paying for crap movies...i.e. Planet of the Apes.
>
> >> Oh, friends wanted to go see that, but I insisted on Shrek instead.
>
> > Lol, the rest of my family went to see Shrek and said it was amazing...
>
> Told ya.

Why do you always have to be right! I might get it on VCD or something since
they all want to watch it again...


>
>
> >>>> end of planet of the apes is crap!
>
> Isn't it the same as the old movie?

No he goes back to earth but everyone is an ape! ahhh! (is that the same as
the original-or wasn't the original something to do with the statue of
liberty?)


>
>
> >>>>> I've always wondered....What the hell is an eggplant?!
>
> >>>> It's what the Americans call an aubergine.
>
> >>> Ohhhh...I prefer a bit of haddock myself ;)
>
> >> Errr.. yes, if you like?
>
> > But why didn't Monica get quorn or something for Phoebe, surely eggplant
> > doesn't have the nutritional equivalent of steaks?
>
> What's quorn?

Meat substitute, but does it have protein?


>
>
> >>> I guess it's a case of me being picky!
>
> >> Well, I reckon that "Friends" is so good, we can afford to be picky. :)
>
> > Yay! Ok then....oh yeah....I was gonna say although the Eddie storyline
> > was poor, I loved Chandler in it....Chandler driven to desperation is
> > hilarious!
>
> I'm glad for you, but I so hated Eddie that it spoilt the other stories
> in the three episodes - and some of them are very good.
>

> That was one of the times in Friends where I really got freaked
out...Eddie was so weird..u ended up feeling for Chandler!

Owen

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01092...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<na.ce20f44abf...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>>> Does Rachel's ex-bedroom have a window?

>>>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows.

>>> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?

>> Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".

> It would still be dark in there though.

Why?


>>>>>> Monica would look better if she put on more weight.

>>>>> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.

>>>> Agreed.

>>> I have some pictures of her on the beach a couple of weeks ago, want
>>> me to send you them? She looks nice.

>> Oh, yeah! :)

> I'll send you them when I reply to your email :)

They're quite intimate, where did you get them?

(Answer that in the email if you prefer).


>>>>>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was.
>>>>>>>> I'll send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.

>>>>>> Ooh, great!

>>>>> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is
>>>>> getting old.

>>>> Lol, don't mix up the recipes!

>>> Whyever not?

>> Dried petals in the pudding?

> It adds a special flavour.

Oh, so *that's* what makes it the best chocolate pudding with custard
there ever was! Okay, I trust you. :)


>>>>>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.

>>>>>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.

>>>>> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.

>>>> Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?

>>> That was Friday!

>> Eep, losing track of time again... :(

> You're getting senile or something... j/k

Ech, it's true. Don't go past twenty, Mari...


>>>> I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.

>>>> At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.

>>> You're always eating plums.

>> I've got an awful lot of plums!

>> Guess what I'm doing right now...

> I wonder?

This is where I'd quote the Latin for "grin" if I knew what it was...

Are you going to include a recording of you singing it on the CD?


>> You should get hold of some more mice, and get a real plague going.
>> Then offer to remove them in return for a digital widescreen TV.

> I like mice. They're sweet. My mother likes them too, that's the
> problem. I'm not sure why she was screaming.

Maybe it was because there were more than FIVE mice??? ;)


>>>> Hail!!!

>>> *calls upon almighty powers to send a little black cloud to Tennant's
>>> house where it hails down*

>> Non-fattening chocolate!!!

> *ditto*

Yayy!! <runs outside the house> but there's been no fall of non-fattening
chocolate, just a pile of logs by the door, and I know about them. :(


>>> Hey, guess what? I'm in a book!

>> What what what?

> Tapehead's book. I'm in the thankyous bit.

Gosh!


>>> I'm famous! HA! (the HA! was adlibbing, guess what movie that's from?)

>> Something with Al Pacino in it?

> No, forget about the "I'm famous" bit. Concentrate on the ad-libbing
> and the HA!

I didn't associate Al Pacino with fame, it was the HA!

But ad-libbing suggests Robin Williams.


>>>>>> What does Mrs.S say about a wider screen?

>>>>> I haven't even attempted it.

>>>> Try it.

>>> Okay. She's here. This is the conversation.

>>> Me: Mum, can we get widescreen?
>>> Her: Widescreen what?
>>> Me: Widescreen TV.
>>> Her: Not at the moment, no.
>>> Me: Please?
>>> Her: Well, not at the moment, no.

>>> I tried!

>> Well of courrrrrrse, if you're gonna do it like that.

>> You've gotta ask her in such a way that she can't say no.

> How?

That's where you use your inside knowledge...


>>>>> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.

>>>> Oh, with the Sprouse boys?

>>> I'll have to take your word for it, I haven't seen it.

>> Me neither - I had the chance, but didn't bother.

> You probably didn't miss much.

No.


>>>>>> Which one?

>>>>> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking
>>>>> *too* high and helium-y.

>>>> I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.

>>> I like the other one better.

>> But of course. :)

> Why of course?

You're not a man.


>>>>> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
>>>>> laughing though.

>>>> Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?

>>>> There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
>>>> are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)

>>> It's great! I love it!

>> That's why I wanted so much for you to hear it.

> Thankyou!!

YW babe.


>>>>>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?

>>>>>>> Yes. You said it first though.

>>>>>> Did I? When?

>>>>> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"

>>>> Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)

>>> Well it was still your idea!

>> Strictly speaking, the suggestion was not that Monica still pines for
>> Richard, but that she might keep him safe in a corner of her heart. :)

> She still does, probably. When she gazes upon her fiance and all seems
> to be happy, a little part of her inside wishes that he had a
> moustache and a cigar and the title of "Dr"...

Ewww... gross.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <z64G4LE+...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>>>> In urban areas the hedgehog population is evolving. If you suddenly
>>>> shine a bright light on some of them, the animal will run away.

>>> Cool, I havn't seen a live hedgehog around here for ages. But I've
>>> never seen a hedgehog in a city....but then again I don't live in a
>>> city!

>> I live in the countryside too, but there are still hedgehogs around.

> Funny you should mention hedgehogs - I just saw one last night for the
> first time in years!

More hedgehogs means fewer slugs, is my motto.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.6fbee34abf...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01092...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.ce20f44abf...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>>> Does Rachel's ex-bedroom have a window?
>
> >>>> Oh yes, all four bedrooms have windows.
>
> >>> How can it then, if it's up against another apartment?
>
> >> Light wells. Check out the singing guy in 419 "TOW All the Haste".
>
> > It would still be dark in there though.
>
> Why?

Lol, that's just the impression I get. I'm not an architect or
anything, don't listen to me!

> >>>>>> Monica would look better if she put on more weight.
>
> >>>>> She would, but I guess she'll do for now.
>
> >>>> Agreed.
>
> >>> I have some pictures of her on the beach a couple of weeks ago, want
> >>> me to send you them? She looks nice.
>
> >> Oh, yeah! :)
>
> > I'll send you them when I reply to your email :)
>
> They're quite intimate, where did you get them?
>
> (Answer that in the email if you prefer).

A friend sent them to me. He knows I like CC so he writes to me and
tells me what she's doing and if she's okay and sends me pictures too
:)

> >>>>>>>> I make the best chocolate pudding with custard there ever was.
> >>>>>>>> I'll send you & Seran some one day. I'll have a go tomorrow.
>
> >>>>>> Ooh, great!
>
> >>>>> I'll do it tonight when I've tidied my room. My pot pourri is
> >>>>> getting old.
>
> >>>> Lol, don't mix up the recipes!
>
> >>> Whyever not?
>
> >> Dried petals in the pudding?
>
> > It adds a special flavour.
>
> Oh, so *that's* what makes it the best chocolate pudding with custard
> there ever was! Okay, I trust you. :)

Yeah, it's like peach-scented chocolate pourri pudding.

> >>>>>>> Today I got bored and so I made potato cakes for breakfast.
>
> >>>>>> Hah, it's Saturday afternoon, and I still haven't eaten yet today.
>
> >>>>> Me either, I think I ate yesterday though. I'm not sure.
>
> >>>> Oh! You made potato cakes for breakfast, but you didn't eat any?
>
> >>> That was Friday!
>
> >> Eep, losing track of time again... :(
>
> > You're getting senile or something... j/k
>
> Ech, it's true. Don't go past twenty, Mari...

I probably won't.

> >>>> I just don't eat sweets. Well, hardly ever.
>
> >>>> At this very instant, I'm eating a delicious plum.
>
> >>> You're always eating plums.
>
> >> I've got an awful lot of plums!
>
> >> Guess what I'm doing right now...
>
> > I wonder?
>
> This is where I'd quote the Latin for "grin" if I knew what it was...

I don't know either :(

No...

> >> You should get hold of some more mice, and get a real plague going.
> >> Then offer to remove them in return for a digital widescreen TV.
>
> > I like mice. They're sweet. My mother likes them too, that's the
> > problem. I'm not sure why she was screaming.
>
> Maybe it was because there were more than FIVE mice??? ;)

She'd probably still be happy. She'd think they were cute and then
she'd throw them out of the back door.

> >>>> Hail!!!
>
> >>> *calls upon almighty powers to send a little black cloud to Tennant's
> >>> house where it hails down*
>
> >> Non-fattening chocolate!!!
>
> > *ditto*
>
> Yayy!! <runs outside the house> but there's been no fall of non-fattening
> chocolate, just a pile of logs by the door, and I know about them. :(

My powers must have failed! Or else it dissolves before it reaches the
ground.

> >>> Hey, guess what? I'm in a book!
>
> >> What what what?
>
> > Tapehead's book. I'm in the thankyous bit.
>
> Gosh!

Yeah, isn't that cool!

> >>> I'm famous! HA! (the HA! was adlibbing, guess what movie that's from?)
>
> >> Something with Al Pacino in it?
>
> > No, forget about the "I'm famous" bit. Concentrate on the ad-libbing
> > and the HA!
>
> I didn't associate Al Pacino with fame, it was the HA!
>
> But ad-libbing suggests Robin Williams.

Nononononono.

> >>>>>> What does Mrs.S say about a wider screen?
>
> >>>>> I haven't even attempted it.
>
> >>>> Try it.
>
> >>> Okay. She's here. This is the conversation.
>
> >>> Me: Mum, can we get widescreen?
> >>> Her: Widescreen what?
> >>> Me: Widescreen TV.
> >>> Her: Not at the moment, no.
> >>> Me: Please?
> >>> Her: Well, not at the moment, no.
>
> >>> I tried!
>
> >> Well of courrrrrrse, if you're gonna do it like that.
>
> >> You've gotta ask her in such a way that she can't say no.
>
> > How?
>
> That's where you use your inside knowledge...

I don't have any.

> >>>>> She also liked "Big Daddy" though.
>
> >>>> Oh, with the Sprouse boys?
>
> >>> I'll have to take your word for it, I haven't seen it.
>
> >> Me neither - I had the chance, but didn't bother.
>
> > You probably didn't miss much.
>
> No.
>
>
> >>>>>> Which one?
>
> >>>>> I don't know. You choose. She sounds better when she isn't talking
> >>>>> *too* high and helium-y.
>
> >>>> I have to choose the voice she uses to manipulate men.
>
> >>> I like the other one better.
>
> >> But of course. :)
>
> > Why of course?
>
> You're not a man.

How would you know? Um, I mean, no, I'm not a man. :)

> >>>>> I watched it last night btw and you were right, I loved it! I kept
> >>>>> laughing though.
>
> >>>> Toldya, it's like a party, isn't it?
>
> >>>> There's a wonderful moment when Gershon thinks to ask if she & Tilly
> >>>> are really *supposed* to be totally dominating the proceedings... :)
>
> >>> It's great! I love it!
>
> >> That's why I wanted so much for you to hear it.
>
> > Thankyou!!
>
> YW babe.
>
>
> >>>>>>>> You're not saying Monica still pines for Richard, are you?
>
> >>>>>>> Yes. You said it first though.
>
> >>>>>> Did I? When?
>
> >>>>> Somewhere around "As maybe Monica still does for Richard Burke?"
>
> >>>> Oh *that*! Mere friendly provocation, you know me. :)
>
> >>> Well it was still your idea!
>
> >> Strictly speaking, the suggestion was not that Monica still pines for
> >> Richard, but that she might keep him safe in a corner of her heart. :)
>
> > She still does, probably. When she gazes upon her fiance and all seems
> > to be happy, a little part of her inside wishes that he had a
> > moustache and a cigar and the title of "Dr"...
>
> Ewww... gross.

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