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Sofa - Spud
downloading it. Coming right after the last episodes of BSG, which in
themselves were some of the best TV I've *ever* seen, we thought it OK
but a little flat.
Now the series has been made and showing on Sky1 we've took the time to
watch the first episode again and download the rest of the series. It
was *superb* on second watching - really fantastic where they have set a
n alien world that looks normal enough but yet alien and futuristic too.
Can't wait now to burn the rest to DVD and make the time to watch them.
Funny thing - the legislator that was murdered, his glasses were the
same weird ones that Eldon Tyrell wore in Bladerunner - Hexagonal bottle
bottoms with a thinner bifocal strip in the middle. Huge things , very
noticeable.
Top quality stuff - lots of seeds for downloading too!
Enzo Matrix
> Now we saw the first episode of this BSG prequel last year after
> downloading it. Coming right after the last episodes of BSG, which in
> themselves were some of the best TV I've *ever* seen, we thought it OK
> but a little flat.
>
> Now the series has been made and showing on Sky1 we've took the time
> to watch the first episode again and download the rest of the series.
> It was *superb* on second watching - really fantastic where they have
> set a n alien world that looks normal enough but yet alien and
> futuristic too.
I like the dichot my of the society. They have interstellar travel,
computers providing a virtual world and even household appliances with
artificial intelligence. Yet their fashions and cars are from the 1950s.
In Tuesday's episode I noticed a Morris Traveller...
--
Enzo
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Sofa - Spud
I love that too the clothing, the whole thing. They've really thought
about this and it shows. Only seen the pilot but the rest of them are
hurtling down the lines as I type.
I'll look out for the car - I spotted a ford Focus in the pilot!
Enzo Matrix
> Enzo Matrix wrote:
>> Sofa - Spud wrote:
>>> Now we saw the first episode of this BSG prequel last year after
>>> downloading it. Coming right after the last episodes of BSG, which
>>> in themselves were some of the best TV I've *ever* seen, we thought
>>> it OK but a little flat.
>>>
>>> Now the series has been made and showing on Sky1 we've took the time
>>> to watch the first episode again and download the rest of the
>>> series. It was *superb* on second watching - really fantastic where
>>> they have set a n alien world that looks normal enough but yet
>>> alien and futuristic too.
>>
>> I like the dichot my of the society. They have interstellar travel,
>> computers providing a virtual world and even household appliances
>> with artificial intelligence. Yet their fashions and cars are from
>> the 1950s. In Tuesday's episode I noticed a Morris Traveller...
>>
>>
>
> I love that too the clothing, the whole thing.
And the fact that everyone smokes is really quite weird!
> I'll look out for the car - I spotted a ford Focus in the pilot!
It is in episode 4, right at the start when the cafe in bombed.
There is also one of those strange Citroen things that looks like Ed
Straker'c car.
Sofa - Spud
> Sofa - Spud wrote:
>> Enzo Matrix wrote:
>>> Sofa - Spud wrote:
>>>> Now we saw the first episode of this BSG prequel last year after
>>>> downloading it. Coming right after the last episodes of BSG, which
>>>> in themselves were some of the best TV I've *ever* seen, we thought
>>>> it OK but a little flat.
>>>>
>>>> Now the series has been made and showing on Sky1 we've took the time
>>>> to watch the first episode again and download the rest of the
>>>> series. It was *superb* on second watching - really fantastic where
>>>> they have set a n alien world that looks normal enough but yet
>>>> alien and futuristic too.
>>>
>>> I like the dichot my of the society. They have interstellar travel,
>>> computers providing a virtual world and even household appliances
>>> with artificial intelligence. Yet their fashions and cars are from
>>> the 1950s. In Tuesday's episode I noticed a Morris Traveller...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I love that too the clothing, the whole thing.
>
> And the fact that everyone smokes is really quite weird!
Good point
>
>
>> I'll look out for the car - I spotted a ford Focus in the pilot!
>
> It is in episode 4, right at the start when the cafe in bombed.
>
> There is also one of those strange Citroen things that looks like Ed
> Straker'c car.
>
LOL I thought I was the only one that thought that of the C6!!!!
First time I saw one!
AC
"Sofa - Spud" <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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Really?
I watched the pilot and it barely held my interest. Optimistically, I have
been downloading the episodes, but I cannot bring myself to watch them after
the mess that was BSG. Been reading forums and the BSG NG and no one else
seems that enthusiastic. Then we hear that they are dragging back of cast
from BSG, which to my mind says "panic". Next, we get the "confidence"
statement form the SyFy channel, which plays to me like a FC chairman
stating full confidence in a manager.
So, I'm quite interested in finding out why you are so up for this show.
AC
Jeff Lawrence
> "Sofa - Spud" <comfyso...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:hm81t7$9iq$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Now we saw the first episode of this BSG prequel last year after
> > downloading it. Coming right after the last episodes of BSG, which in
> > themselves were some of the best TV I've *ever* seen, we thought it OK but
> > a little flat.
>
> > Now the series has been made and showing on Sky1 we've took the time to
> > watch the first episode again and download the rest of the series. It was
> > *superb* on second watching - really fantastic where they have set a n
> > alien world that looks normal enough but yet alien and futuristic too.
>
> > Can't wait now to burn the rest to DVD and make the time to watch them.
>
> > Funny thing - the legislator that was murdered, his glasses were the same
> > weird ones that Eldon Tyrell wore in Bladerunner - Hexagonal bottle
> > bottoms with a thinner bifocal strip in the middle. Huge things , very
> > noticeable.
>
> > Top quality stuff - lots of seeds for downloading too!
>
> Really?
>
> I watched the pilot and it barely held my interest.
I was the same. I just couldn't get into it. That annoying young girl
and her annoying tennis playing parents and that weird sex fetish
club. I was a big fan of BSG but this seems totally different. Or does
it improve after the first 15 mins?
Cheers
Jeff
Enzo Matrix
It's not a sex fetish club. It is a virtual world for teenagers where there
are no consequences for any actions. Hardly surprising that it becomes
anarchy.
Jeff Lawrence
> It's not a sex fetish club. It is a virtual world for teenagers where there
> are no consequences for any actions.
Ah, a bit like Facebook then?
Cheers
Jeff
AC
"Jeff Lawrence" <jeff.l...@orange.nl> wrote in message
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Dunno, but I am downloading it and reading all the fan stuff hoping that at
some point the show will kind of kick in to gear and become worth committing
to. Problem is, I loved BSG when it first came out, but it quickly became
obvious that despite the cylons having a plan, the writers clearly did not.
So, when it finished, I felt short changed and a bit pissed off with it. So,
clearly, I'm gonna worry about Caprica, which is something I should like.
But I don't want to waste my time all over again.
Another thing that put me off was that this was supposed to be more "grown
up". And the only evidence of that was some boobs wobbling about in the
pilot. Nah, not good enough. Yeah, I'm always up for some on screen boobies,
but not if they are the only result of something allegedly being grown up.
Soooo, I'm collecting the episodes, but I want to know if its worth it
before I get in to it and be potentially annoyed by it again.
I'm getting very suspicious of US shows these days.
AC
AC
LOL, yeah, exactly like facebook. Great call.
AC
J G Miller
> we thought it OK but a little flat.
The big problem is though, that the ratings keep slipping every week.
It may only be a little time before the show is canceled.
pete
The problem (well, the biggest) I have with Caprica is that they pretty much
covered the whole thing in the first double episode. Where did the cylons
come from? Well, after watching those 2 eps. we now know. Since then we've
basically had a soap opera - full of angst, emotions and personal stories
but NO SCIENCE FICTION.
However, the same could be said for the vast majority of BSG, too. So maybe
it was never meant to be an SF programme, merely a space opera.
Fred X
That sounds like the writers come from the Torchwood school of "adult"
writing.
Fred X
Fred X
That make a change then as usually the fashions in sci-fi shows just look
like variations of the clothes that people wore at the time that the
show was made. Just look at the flares and zip heavy outfits on Space 1999!
Fred X
Enzo Matrix
I think that's exactly how the writers pitched it to the studio.
But there are still plenty of questions to be answered. At the moment, Zoe's
consciousness will only work in that robot body. How did they get over that
problem? Were the rest of the Cylons human consciousnesses in robot bodies
or were they articificial intelligences?
It seems clear that the monotheistic religion of the Cylons stemmed from
Zoe's beliefe in the one, true god, but if the Cylons were in fact human
consciousnesses, how did they come to accept a religion that is widely
reviled in colonial society? And if the Cylons are AIs, why would they want
a religion anyway?
Jeff Lawrence
> I think that's exactly how the writers pitched it to the studio.
>
> But there are still plenty of questions to be answered. At the moment, Zoe's
> consciousness will only work in that robot body. How did they get over that
> problem? Were the rest of the Cylons human consciousnesses in robot bodies
> or were they articificial intelligences?
>
> It seems clear that the monotheistic religion of the Cylons stemmed from
> Zoe's beliefe in the one, true god, but if the Cylons were in fact human
> consciousnesses, how did they come to accept a religion that is widely
> reviled in colonial society? And if the Cylons are AIs, why would they want
> a religion anyway?
All very interesting. Will there be more naked boobs?
Cheers
Jeff
Basil Jet
>
> And if the Cylons are
> AIs, why would they want a religion anyway?
The next step after artificial intelligence is artificial stupidity. Then
you get artificial chavs.
--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.
Sofa - Spud
Well in this they have freed themselves from all that , they can be
anything as it's alien. Smart really.
Yet thinking about Space 1999 when I watched it as a kid it was
dizzyingly modern!
Yet we say the future didn't pan out like that but there is probably
more computing power in this living room than in the whole of the USA
when S1999 was made!
Sofa - Spud
We love all things Scu Fi here - I'm willing to give this a go, I like
the premise of the show , set on an alien planet. I liked the back story
idea and how it all pans out. BSG had many slow moments early on but
sticking with it we got to see some of the most fantastic TV.
I can't wait to see the rest!
Sofa - Spud
But you have to agree the first series of BSG had some head scratching
moments, the whole alter ego thing going on was confusing first off.
Sofa - Spud
Am I in the wrong place then - FB seems tame where I am!
Sofa - Spud
How did you work out the Cylons had a plan but the writers didn't? Who
wrote the Cylons part? :)
The show evolved and the ending was superb - still reckon it was some of
the best TV we've *ever* seen. Yes there were some dead ends and weird
bits but on the whole the thing panned out. What show of 4 series has it
al mapped out from day 1?
So, clearly, I'm gonna worry about Caprica,
> which is something I should like. But I don't want to waste my time all
> over again.
By downloading if it doesn't work then you haven't missed out - we
watched many BSG episodes back to back.
>
> Another thing that put me off was that this was supposed to be more
> "grown up". And the only evidence of that was some boobs wobbling about
> in the pilot. Nah, not good enough. Yeah, I'm always up for some on
> screen boobies, but not if they are the only result of something
> allegedly being grown up.
I reckon grown up means deeper - more back story, Katee Sackhoff got
jiggy more than once in BSG. I think they want this more drama based
than special effects like the space battle scenes - which really made
BSG , you have to agree those were *awesome*.
>
> Soooo, I'm collecting the episodes, but I want to know if its worth it
> before I get in to it and be potentially annoyed by it again.
>
> I'm getting very suspicious of US shows these days.
>
You're stressing yourself needlessly - you are setting your bar too high.
Sofa - Spud
Or just a drama - on an alien world.
Sofa - Spud
Good point - very good point. They might have seen themselves as *more*
human - human plus - the next stage. Often in BSG it seemed they were
the ones who might have inherited Earth, being more *entitled* yet still
managed to destroy themselves with infighting. They needed the religion
to sort of justify their existence or they are *just* machines.
It'd be good to see the first cylon war then the time they left.
The worry I have is now the money has run out they might pull it rather
than carry on a risk the money.
J G Miller
> Produced using artificial insemination.
Brave New World.
Fred X
wrote:
The thing is that the Apollo programme was already winding down when
they made the show, so they might have guessed that we wouldn't end up
living on the moon. Still, the Eagles looked really cool and I never
could afford the Dinky model. *sniff*
Fred X
Sofa - Spud
I had the Airfix model! I always liked the eagles, in one episode where
they find a space graveyard the front section came off and flew alone.
Then there were the Hawk fighter from one episode!
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/images/space/wg/spwg0032.jpg
Tricky Dicky
"Fred X" <alex...@himki.net> wrote in message
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I had an Eagle Freighter which had a winch with a magnet to pick up little
barrels of radioactive waste
Marvellous stuff
Tricky
Enzo Matrix
Babylon 5. There were things alluded to in the first season that only
became important in season 4. In one case the allusion was only seen on the
headline of a newspaper which was being read by a non-speaking extra.
pete
I don't think it's fair comparing modern stuff with classics like B5.
For a start, contemporary shows are churned out "by committee" where
the story (such as it is) has to please everyone - a little, so as to
get as wide an audience as possible. Plus they never know from 1 series
to the next if they're going to get canned, so have little scope for
trying for "the big idea" and not much incentive, too.
I doubt we'll ever get another B5, the need for instant financial
returns and week-by-week viewing figures makes it impossible to resist
the pressure of sacrificing a story's integrity. Also, todays writers
just don't seem to be up to the task. :-(
Enzo Matrix
Joss Whedon is. jms still is.
Sadly, these days we get hacks like JJ Abrams. :-(
Fred X
I remember it well, but I really wanted the one with the passenger pod.
And talking of pods, Thunderbird 2 as well.
Fred X
Fred X
wrote:
Yeah, I've got a tatty Airfix catalogue of 1979 I think it is, that had
that Hawk fighter in it although I had to watch some recent repeats of
S1999 to remind myself where in the show it actually appeared.
Fred X
Fred X
I hate shows that do stuff like that! Do they ever think of those viewers
who don't study every frame of every episode? :)
Fred X
pete
You can still be entertained by it, just like you don't have to be an English
Lit. graduate to read a book, or a wine critic to have a glass. However for
people who do pay attention, there is a feeling of satisfaction when some
loose ends get tied up. It shows the writers respect the audience. Having a
multi-layered storyline is an indication of an accomplished writer. It also
means the people who do "get it" are more likely to re-watch the programme,
buy the DVDs and still be talking about it 15 years later.
Sofa - Spud
It featured for 2 mins!
Sofa - Spud
Didn't it have both?
Sofa - Spud
To be honest we downloaded B5 the first series and just couldn't get
into it, the costumes the clanging music , the look of the 80's about
it. I'd heard so much about it and really wanted to like it but just
Fred X
wrote:
Well you could buy two different versions as you can see towards the bottom
of this webpage, which also has a lot other impressive Eagle models on it.
http://www.eagletransporter.com/alleagles.asp
Fred X
Fred X
wrote:
That's why I thought it was something they had just made up for
an Airfix model! When I was a kid I was a Star Wars fan, but I only
saw the film once at the cinema, so when I saw toys of the Y-Fighters
I couldn't even remember them being in the film!
Fred X
Fred X
Exactly it's for the anal geeks to feel smug about themselves! :)
Fred X
Fred X
wrote:
> pete wrote:
Same with me. To me it just seemed like a soap opera in space with
shiny fake looking effects made on a PC. (...yes I know)
Fred X