Robbie Williams ...
John Dean
Do me a favour.
Anyone else want to shake him and say ''Ooo-er you an worrav yer dun wi
Frank-eh?''?
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John Dean
Oxford
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sally jenessen
incredible that fame can make the untalented, talented.
S.J.
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GC
>incredible that fame can make the untalented, talented.
How do you rate Nancy?
Zsa Zsa
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> >Frank didn't even compose it. All he did was sing it and not very well.
Oh my goodness how can you say that - I think it might be sacrelige!!!!
It's
> >incredible that fame can make the untalented, talented.
Well that's sort of true I suppose, esp. with regard to Steps. Did anyone
see TOTP last week, when the brunette was singing completely out of tune?
Tragic. But her eyes looked lovely and frightened, until her vanity/tone
deafness got the better of her and she thought she was doing alright.
>
> How do you rate Nancy?
She's the biz she is - and that duet is *marvellous*. And I'm afraid I also
like the Robbie and Nicole version as well - it's a great song, can't go
wrong, and that rhymes so it must be true.
Are you ready boots? Start walking.........
(groovy music)
Love Zsa Zsa
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>
CindyLover1969
> Do me a favour.
> Anyone else want to shake him and say ''Ooo-er you an worrav yer dun wi
> Frank-eh?''?
Oh yes, definitely. Whenever I hear that track on the radio I want to
throw something at it.
And speaking of insults against Frank Sinatra, who does Russell Watson
think he is calling his album "The Voice"? First the theme for the new
Star Trek show and now this...
CindyLover, wondering what'll happen if Nicole Kidman duets with a
real singer.
Ian F.
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> She's the biz she is - and that duet is *marvellous*. And I'm afraid I
also
> like the Robbie and Nicole version as well - it's a great song, can't go
> wrong, and that rhymes so it must be true.
Agree. Why does everyone think that RW is *trying to be Sinatra* with his
new album? All he's doing is singing, rather well, some old swing songs!
The album, IMO, is terrific, as was the TV show. More power to the lad's
elbow - if he just calms down a bit and stops swearing, he could be really,
really big in a few years.
Ian
Jeff Lawrence
Like Gary Barlow is now you mean? Or do you mean big as in famous?
Cheers
Jeff
John Dean
"Ian F." <ianfre@btopenworldputdotcomhere> wrote in message
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> > She's the biz she is - and that duet is *marvellous*. And I'm afraid I
> also
> > like the Robbie and Nicole version as well - it's a great song, can't go
> > wrong, and that rhymes so it must be true.
>
> Agree. Why does everyone think that RW is *trying to be Sinatra* with his
> new album?
Oh, I dunno. The Sinatra style Italian suit? The trademark pork-pie hat? The
jacket over the shoulder? The covering of so many of the (easier to sing,
not the classic) Sinatra songs? The rip-off cover art? The fact that his
publicists have been plugging the Sinatra line ever since the Albert hall
show was booked? I really dunno.
Anyway, 'Oo-er you an worrav yer done wi Jacq-eh?'
Zsa Zsa
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> > She's the biz she is - and that duet is *marvellous*. And I'm afraid I
> also
> > like the Robbie and Nicole version as well - it's a great song, can't go
> > wrong, and that rhymes so it must be true.
>
> Agree. Why does everyone think that RW is *trying to be Sinatra* with his
> new album? All he's doing is singing, rather well, some old swing songs!
I know - nothing wrong with that is there?
> The album, IMO, is terrific, as was the TV show. More power to the lad's
> elbow - if he just calms down a bit and stops swearing, he could be
really,
> really big in a few years.
I agree. Although I can see that he *can* be a bit of a tosser (well so can
everyone really can't they), I genuinely think that he is worthy of the
status of "Star", unlike most celebrities these days.
Love Zsa Zsa
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> Ian
>
John Dean
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> >
> > > She's the biz she is - and that duet is *marvellous*. And I'm afraid
I
> > also
> > > like the Robbie and Nicole version as well - it's a great song, can't
go
> > > wrong, and that rhymes so it must be true.
> >
> > Agree. Why does everyone think that RW is *trying to be Sinatra* with
his
> > new album? All he's doing is singing, rather well, some old swing
songs!
>
> I know - nothing wrong with that is there?
>
Frank used with as many of Frank's old backing band as are still alive
.........
Zsa Zsa
But why is that a problem? OK, so Robbie's making a mint out of "paying
homage" to Frank - can't say I blame him. But for me, Frank will always be
The Master.
I miss him terribly, cos he was one of those rare types that just gets more
and more gorgeous, or am I bit *odd*? I don't mind being odd if this is
indeed the case.
Love Zsa Zsa
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Ian F.
> Not to mention that he went to LA to record the album in the same studios
> Frank used with as many of Frank's old backing band as are still alive
I'm not disputing any of the points you make in your posts, John. I'm just
saying that at no time has RW ever said, intimated, claimed or implied that
he is "doing an impression of Sinatra". It's just twaddle made up by those
who have no time for him.
The lad is a talent, IMO. It's as simple - or as difficult - as that.
Ian
Halmyre
They must need the money.
Halmyre
John Dean
all the clothes, publicity etc. Robbie is inviting comparison. It is
inevitably unfavourable.
BTW, did you know Blue Eyes could breath in through his nose while singing
out through his mouth? The secret of his ability to sustain effortlessly
those long molasses notes.
John Dean
"Ian F." <ianfre@btopenworldputdotcomhere> wrote in message
by singing Francis Albert's songs in FA's clothes in FA's studio with FA's
band and plastering FA's name all over the album. And, IMNSHO, he's crap at
it. He's not in the same league. If he wants to do Rat pack numbers, why
not dredge up some original treatments from the depths (shallows?) of his
musical abilities? There are lots of examples of original treatments of
classic songs that bring a whole new freshness - Cassidy's 'Over the
Rainbow', Flack's 'First Time Ever' or, for that matter, the Pistols' 'My
Way'.
If you sing in Blue Eyes' style, you get compared to Blue Eyes.
He's brilliant at being Robbie Williams & he can sing a bit. Someone should
tell him not to attempt dance steps of any kind & I think he would be more
successful as a comedian/impressionist - the old-style who would end his act
with a 'and now this is me' number.
wishy
ianfre@btopenworldputdotcomhere says...
No argument he's good at what he does and that he seems to be a generally
amiable and likeable bloke. But whoever's steering him along his current
course (and as John points out it's a pretty clearly cut Sinatra course)
is making a misjudgement. Firstly, the majority of his fan base are
unlikely to buy into it long term or in comparably great numbers,
secondly he's not good enough at it to bridge the gap between that
existing fan base and those who do enjoy these songs. When he's being
compared to Sinatra, unluckily for him, he's nowhere close to filling
those shoes.
Zsa Zsa
No I didn't know that - trust you to have access to such technical
information. ;o)
What's your fave Sinatra song John? Difficult isn't it..............
Love Zsa Zsa
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Zsa Zsa
>
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> There are lots of examples of original treatments of
> classic songs that bring a whole new freshness - Cassidy's 'Over the
> Rainbow', Flack's 'First Time Ever' or, for that matter, the Pistols' 'My
> Way'.
What marvellous examples of truly *brilliant* covers.
Love Zsa Zsa
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John Dean
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> >
With
> > all the clothes, publicity etc. Robbie is inviting comparison. It is
> > inevitably unfavourable.
> > BTW, did you know Blue Eyes could breath in through his nose while
singing
> > out through his mouth? The secret of his ability to sustain effortlessly
> > those long molasses notes.
>
> No I didn't know that - trust you to have access to such technical
> information. ;o)
>
> What's your fave Sinatra song John? Difficult isn't it..............
>
'Come Fly With me' - no contest, hands down winner. That song *is* Sinatra
apulco Bay
Zsa Zsa
Oh yeah. I really really like these as well:
The Summer Wind - I like the way he sings "My fickle friend" especially. I
think it's quite a funny song.
Something Stupid - well I've already waxed lyrical about that one I think.
It Was a Very Good Year
That's Life (of *course*)
The Lady is a Tramp (ditto)
oh, and btw, the Dolly Parton cover of I Get a Kick Out of You is
*SUPERB* - try it, you'll love it!!!!
>
> apulco Bay
Love and Frank, Zsa Zsa
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Paul O'Brien
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>Firstly, the majority of his fan base are
>unlikely to buy into it long term or in comparably great numbers,
>secondly he's not good enough at it to bridge the gap between that
>existing fan base and those who do enjoy these songs.
Well, they seem to be buying it for the moment. Besides, the album
seems to have been promoted more as a stopgap side project between
"real" Robbie Williams albums - always a good way of covering your
back in case everyone hates it.
Paul O'Brien
THE X-AXIS REVIEWS - http://www.esoterica.demon.co.uk
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Brevity is the sister of talent.
Zsa Zsa
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> John Dean <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
>
> >> But why is that a problem? OK, so Robbie's making a mint out of
"paying
> >> homage" to Frank - can't say I blame him. But for me, Frank will
always
> >> be The Master.
>
Brilliant ;o))))))
There was this daft Science Fiction quiz on This Morning with R and J a
couple of years back, the contestants were all sort of has been actors in
Dr. Who etc. This dizzy dumb blonde (Amy something, with the squeaky little
voice?) was asked "What would you call the The Master of the Universe?"
She replied
"Sir?"
which I thought was quite funny.
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> --
> John Keniry
Ian F.
> oh, and btw, the Dolly Parton cover of I Get a Kick Out of You
That's my idea of nothing to do...
Ian ;-)
Zsa Zsa
Ian F. <ianfre@btopenworldputdotcomhere> wrote in message
Very good ;o)
Each to his own I guess ;o))))
I have only met one person on line who really really loves Dolly Parton
*properly*, and that's me ;o) No in truth JJ does as well, and she's even
*met her* (flash bitch ;o))
But I don't care cos Graham Norton goes to Dollywood on Boxing Day. That'll
keep me going for *ages*.
Love Zsa Zsa
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S Macran
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, wishy wrote:
> When he's being
> compared to Sinatra, unluckily for him, he's nowhere close to filling
> those shoes.
That's true. I think Robbie's great but then I'm also a great fan of
Frank. The track on the album where the two sing together shows that
his voice doesn not belong on the same compilation. Sinatra's voice
is so rich, he sends shivers down my spine......
Sue
Tripitaka
Sometime on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:40:10 -0000, "Zsa Zsa"
<cdc...@supanet.com> stopped dithering and somehow managed to put the
letters in the correct order to type:
>I have only met one person on line who really really loves Dolly Parton
>*properly*, and that's me ;o)
Plenty of Dolly Parton fans about... *waves* A highly underrated
singer/songwriter IMNHO.
>But I don't care cos Graham Norton goes to Dollywood on Boxing Day. That'll
>keep me going for *ages*.
Ruby Flipper - TAPE please!!!!!
Joolz - who once considered applying for a job at Dollywood but didn't
think she'd be able to do an authentic Tennessee accent
--
God bless European unity
And all those who never sleep
Zsa Zsa
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>
> Sometime on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:40:10 -0000, "Zsa Zsa"
> <cdc...@supanet.com> stopped dithering and somehow managed to put the
> letters in the correct order to type:
>
> >I have only met one person on line who really really loves Dolly Parton
> >*properly*, and that's me ;o)
>
> Plenty of Dolly Parton fans about... *waves* A highly underrated
> singer/songwriter IMNHO.
Absolutely - have you heard the Little Sparrow album - she just gets better
and better...........
>
> >But I don't care cos Graham Norton goes to Dollywood on Boxing Day.
That'll
> >keep me going for *ages*.
>
> Ruby Flipper - TAPE please!!!!!
>
> Joolz - who once considered applying for a job at Dollywood but didn't
> think she'd be able to do an authentic Tennessee accent
I don't think it would matter. I think you just have to adopt the Dolly
philosophy.
I love Dolly, I really really do.
(The Dolly philosophy)
Love Zsa Zsa and Joshua
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John H
>
> What's your fave Sinatra song John? Difficult isn't
it..............
My vote would be for "It was a very good year".
For some inexplicable reason, "My Way" was apparently one of his most
popular songs. I reckon it was easily his WORST.
--
John Hudson, Gateshead, UK <jo...@saltwell.demon.co.uk>
Zsa Zsa
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> > What's your fave Sinatra song John? Difficult isn't
> it..............
>
> My vote would be for "It was a very good year".
>
> For some inexplicable reason, "My Way" was apparently one of his most
> popular songs. I reckon it was easily his WORST.
Me too, it makes me puke.
Sid Vicious did it *much* better.
Love Zsa Zsa
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Ruby Flipper
uk.media.tv.misc
>Plenty of Dolly Parton fans about... *waves*
*waves back*
>>But I don't care cos Graham Norton goes to Dollywood on Boxing Day. That'll
>>keep me going for *ages*.
>
>Ruby Flipper - TAPE please!!!!!
No problems!