Re: The Apprentice
Matt Wheeler
<benrobe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114210505.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I read in a newspaper that James caused some trouble after the show
>at
> Saira's weddding. Does anybody have any info on this?. Could this be
> because either he gets kicked out or because she wins?.
>
It won't be because she wins, as the winner is yet to be decided.
Apparently the Live final is May 4th. (according to a story on
digitalspy.co.uk)
which, given its the week after next, either means two are going this
week, or the final is between 3.
<see http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds20784.html>
> I was shocked to see Miriam get fired last week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben Smith.
>
Thanatos
>I read in a newspaper that James caused some trouble after the show at
>Saira's weddding. Does anybody have any info on this?. Could this be
>because either he gets kicked out or because she wins?.
#I wanna kiss the bride...#
--
"It's not my bloody fault that people spent too much money on
cheese and didn't sort themselves out!" - Paul Torrisi
Roland Perry
Apr 2005, Matt Wheeler <sp...@007jbond.freeserve.co.uk> remarked:
>It won't be because she wins, as the winner is yet to be decided.
>Apparently the Live final is May 4th. (according to a story on
>digitalspy.co.uk)
>which, given its the week after next, either means two are going this
>week, or the final is between 3.
>
><see http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds20784.html>
Yes, why do they say the final is between two? Or is this week's
"surprise" going to be that two are fired?
And we are still no closer to understanding where the clip of Paul
saying to Saira "You can't f*cking fire me" fits in (it looks like a
team discussion, but they are on opposite teams).
--
Roland Perry
Thanatos
wrote:
From what I've read, there are no teams this week. Basically, they
all seem to be competing against each other in a round of interviews.
As this is a break from the normal format, it's possible that the
eliminations will be done differently (no teams means no gathering of
one team in the boardroom) so we may lose two of the remaining four at
the end of the programme.
As they're not working in teams, it's entirely possible for Paul and
Saira to be brought together at some point during the show. My bet
would be on some sort of practice interviews between the contestants,
during which Saira jokingly sacks Paul, and hence the clip.
Roland Perry
Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Thanatos <Than...@blueREMOVEyonder.co.uk> remarked:
>Basically, they
>all seem to be competing against each other in a round of interviews.
>As this is a break from the normal format, it's possible that the
>eliminations will be done differently (no teams means no gathering of
>one team in the boardroom)
I think they'll just gather all four of them in the boardroom.
--
Roland Perry
Curious_Orange
Thanatos wrote:
> As they're not working in teams, it's entirely possible for Paul and
> Saira to be brought together at some point during the show. My bet
> would be on some sort of practice interviews between the contestants,
> during which Saira jokingly sacks Paul, and hence the clip.
... yes.... it was me wot suggested that possibility :) I take it I'll
be up for a share in the winnings then on your bet?! :-p
Curious_Orange
Matt Wheeler wrote:
> <benrobe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1114210505.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >I read in a newspaper that James caused some trouble after the show
> >at
> > Saira's weddding. Does anybody have any info on this?. Could this
be
> > because either he gets kicked out or because she wins?.
> >
>
> It won't be because she wins, as the winner is yet to be decided.
> Apparently the Live final is May 4th. (according to a story on
> digitalspy.co.uk)
> which, given its the week after next, either means two are going this
> week, or the final is between 3.
ahhh but the 4th of May is a Thursday. That still allows for 2 more
shows on the Wednesdays, to go from 4>3, and then 3>2 with the final
live show the following night.
In fact *possible spoiler*....
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in the book of the series, I think the last task for the 2 remaining
individuals is an "event management" job. What's to say that this
final task, might even be organising/producing - to some level- the
final live show itself?
the success of which will decide the final winner?
Seems like a nice elegant way to decide the final winner.
Alan Hope
>Matt Wheeler wrote:
>> <benrobe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1114210505.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >I read in a newspaper that James caused some trouble after the show
>> >at
>> > Saira's weddding. Does anybody have any info on this?. Could this
>be
>> > because either he gets kicked out or because she wins?.
>> It won't be because she wins, as the winner is yet to be decided.
>> Apparently the Live final is May 4th. (according to a story on
>> digitalspy.co.uk)
>> which, given its the week after next, either means two are going this
>> week, or the final is between 3.
>ahhh but the 4th of May is a Thursday.
Not this year it ain't.
From BBC Listings for Wed. 4 May:
21:00 The Apprentice (Digital Widescreen) Reality TV series in which
14 candidates compete for the position of apprentice to multi-
millionaire Alan Sugar. Two candidates are left and for their final
task they're each told to organise a party on one of two rival luxury
Thames riverboats. They have just three days to dream up a theme, sell
the tickets, organise the entertainment and manage the event itself.
But then they are hit with problems with the staff and the weather.
(T)
So there you go.
--
AH
Thanatos
Curious_Orange
Alan Hope wrote:
> >ahhh but the 4th of May is a Thursday.
>
> Not this year it ain't.
lol.... wonder what happened there. I'm blaming this windows calendar
;) or maybe Im the next Dr Who and I just dont realise it yet.
> From BBC Listings for Wed. 4 May:
>
> 21:00 The Apprentice (Digital Widescreen) Reality TV series in which
> 14 candidates compete for the position of apprentice to multi-
> millionaire Alan Sugar. Two candidates are left and for their final
> task they're each told to organise a party on one of two rival luxury
> Thames riverboats. They have just three days to dream up a theme,
sell
> the tickets, organise the entertainment and manage the event itself.
> But then they are hit with problems with the staff and the weather.
> (T)
>
> So there you go.
ah.. thats cheating if you are reading the BBC listings . Where's the
fun in speculating? ;)
so my understanding/guess would be there'll be a final live segment
tacked onto the end of the show where the winner will be decided.
Whats the betting they'll move that big illuminated boardroom table,
and Alan's high backed leather chair into a TV studio and do the final
firing/hiring bit in front of a live TV audience. Could be quite
amusing.
(oh dear... just had another thought. They might ask the audience to
"vote interactively on keypads" or something for who performed best in
the final task... lets hope not!)
Alan Hope
>Whats the betting they'll move that big illuminated boardroom table,
>and Alan's high backed leather chair into a TV studio and do the final
>firing/hiring bit in front of a live TV audience. Could be quite
>amusing.
That would be hard on AMS. I wonder how many takes he needs to get his
lines right of a normal week.
>(oh dear... just had another thought. They might ask the audience to
>"vote interactively on keypads" or something for who performed best in
>the final task... lets hope not!)
I would be very upset if they pulled that sort of shit at the last
minute.
It's funny to think that for the whole series, the viewer has in fact
been the worst informed member of the equation.
The teams know everything that went on where their team was, and a bit
about the others maybe. Nick and Margaret shadow them (we don't
actually know to what extent) and report back to AMS.
But we, the viewer, get snippets of this and snippets of that. We
don't see what N&M see, and we certainly aren't party to what the team
members see. I don't believe for a minute AMS avails himself of all of
N&M's experience and expertise, but I do think they work for him and
so would know exactly what to tell him to get the point across.
So we're actually scrabbling around in the dark,
comparatively-speaking.
That's why it would be ludicrous to turn it over to the public at this
or any other stage. There's simply too much to take in. This is not
like watching a couple do the paso doble, or listening to some
fuckskull with a haircut sing a song.
This is real life, and the results matter more than you could ever
know.
Well not really, but you get a shadow of my drift, I hope.
--
AH
At my signal, unleash Heck
Curious_Orange
Alan Hope wrote:
> Curious_Orange goes:
> >(oh dear... just had another thought. They might ask the audience to
> >"vote interactively on keypads" or something for who performed best
in
> >the final task... lets hope not!)
>
> I would be very upset if they pulled that sort of shit at the last
> minute.
reading some of the posts over at http://www.theinternetforum.info it
seems that the "live" final is being filmed the day before, on Tuesday
3rd May, for showing on the 4th.
seems like a good scenario for the winner's name to leak out onto the
internet, before the final show is broadcast. Will just have to bury my
head in the sand in that case! :)
Roland Perry
14:49:13 on Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Curious_Orange
<curious...@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Whats the betting they'll move that big illuminated boardroom table,
>and Alan's high backed leather chair into a TV studio and do the final
>firing/hiring bit in front of a live TV audience. Could be quite
>amusing.
That's the way it was done in the USA Apprentice, and the producers are
following the format quite closely.
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> remarked:
>From BBC Listings for Wed. 4 May:
>
>21:00 The Apprentice (Digital Widescreen) Reality TV series in which
>14 candidates compete for the position of apprentice to multi-
>millionaire Alan Sugar. Two candidates are left and for their final
>task they're each told to organise a party on one of two rival luxury
>Thames riverboats. They have just three days to dream up a theme, sell
>the tickets, organise the entertainment and manage the event itself.
>But then they are hit with problems with the staff and the weather.
>(T)
So, if it's a "live" final, the BBC already know what the weather is
going to be like on the 1-3rd May??
No, I suspect this will be like the USA Apprentice, where the first
"live" final was a pre-recorded task, followed by pre-recorded
boardroom, and a very short "as live" segment at the end.
Matthew (I think it was) has said that there are three contestants who
don't get to hear "you're fired", which would be true if there were
three finalists and one heard "you're hired". But that theory doesn't
fit a two-person final, nor explain what device they'll use to get rid
of two this week. It doesn't seem very likely that one of them resigns
(which is the only explanation I can think of that fits all the facts).
--
Roland Perry
Steve Walton
wrote:
>In message <1114379353.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, at
cheers I was off early to check out the format, but got disctracted by
some search answer of other!
Oddly this series pays no reference to Trump's format in the
end-titles, but I am sure they are contracted to strictly stick to the
same. Even the Older male / female aids for AMS were chosen with the
Trump format in mind.
Thats why, IMHO, Branson would never have been good for this format
Steve
Curious_Orange
hmmm I think I read somewhere that in the US version, 2 people are in
fact fired after the interview prog.
Maybe you can confirm or deny this, as you yourself have seen the US
series.
Curious_Orange
Roland Perry wrote:
> Matthew (I think it was) has said that there are three contestants
who
> don't get to hear "you're fired", which would be true if there were
> three finalists and one heard "you're hired".
have you read any of Matthews "diary" postings over at that
http://www.theinternetforum.info/forum2//index.php?act=ST&f=90&t=7439&s=8ec611bd306095e40e4669ac2564281e
they're quite interesting to read (if a little long and rambling.. but
I think he voice recorded them, then typed them up verbatim, which
explains the writing style.)
this little reference to Miriam had me laughing...
"I was accused of cheating by the girls when I arrived,
"they cheated, they cheated, they cheated", by the girl with the
big boobies from the Caribbean, I've forgotten what her name is
(Miriam)"
Mullen/Single Locust/Matthew from the Apprentice.... never seen
together in the same room at the same time. Hmmmmmm!
Tim Miller
>
> Matthew (I think it was) has said that there are three contestants who
> don't get to hear "you're fired", which would be true if there were
> three finalists and one heard "you're hired". But that theory doesn't
> fit a two-person final, nor explain what device they'll use to get rid
> of two this week. It doesn't seem very likely that one of them resigns
> (which is the only explanation I can think of that fits all the
> facts).
Adele resigned, didn't she?
Tim (tm)
Roland Perry
05:41:58 on Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Curious_Orange <mfm...@dsl.pipex.com>
remarked:
>hmmm I think I read somewhere that in the US version, 2 people are in
>fact fired after the interview prog.
>
>Maybe you can confirm or deny this, as you yourself have seen the US
>series.
It was a long time ago (I watched it when it first ran). I don't
remember an interview task, but the final was definitely between two -
one had to run a charity golf tournament (presided over by a very grumpy
Trumpy) and I forget what the other event was, but I'm fairly sure it
was easier as Trump wasn't heckling all the way through.
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
2005, Tim Miller <ne...@economic-truth.co.uk> remarked:
It's possible that you could stretch what he said to include the
(earlier) resignation by Adele, but it's a long shot.
--
Roland Perry
Alan Hope
>Roland Perry wrote:
Matthew sounds, to be honest, as if he didn't really understand what
the programme was about. All that complaining about camera crews, well
yes it's a TV programme luv. It was more about entertainment than
about business, well duh.
I happen to think Matthew was brought in as a novelty eccentric, and
though he would never see that, he does point out several times that
AMS wanted rid of him asap. I think he'd have lasted longer if he'd
been a more entertaining eccentric. But he wasn't. If you read his
ramblings, you'll find that what he's learned from the whole
experience is, "My ideas are better than other people's". So, he's
learned nothing, in other words.
--
AH