Chart Commentary 26/5/12

[Paul Hyett]

Singles
-------
Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big
drop in sales.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Fun #2
Top 10 : Rihanna #6, Saturdays #7, D'banj #9
Top 20 : Scissor Sisters #12, Labrinth #17, Emeli Sande (MKOL) #19
Top 30 : Prof Green #27, Skepta #29
Top 40 : Skrillex #32, Ben Howard #37


Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Rascal Flatts #41,
wRetch 32 #46, Mark Ronson & Katy B #55, Glee Cast (IACBTMN) #69, Angus
& Julia Stone #72, Madonna (GGW) #73

Re-entries T75 : Donna Summer (IFL) #45, Lana Del Rey (VG) #62, RHCP
(UTB) #68, Alanis M (I) #74


Albums
------
Keane remain #1 - just.


New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Tenacious D #2, Ren Harvieu #5
Top 10 : Ben Howard #6, Garbage #10
Top 20 : Beach House #15, Glee Cast #17

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Engelbert Humperdink #21,
Morten Harket #37, Gossip #47, Santana #49,Best Coast #55, Niki & The
Dove #60, Willie Nelson #73, Simian Mobile Disco #74

Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53, Donna Summer (TJ-VBO) #67


Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.

Top 5 :
Top 10 : J-Lo, Labrinth, Paloma Faith
Top 20 :
Top 30 : Pitbull
Top 40 : Rumer

Albums
------
Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
guess.

Top 5 : Fun
Top 10 : Temper Trap
Top 20 : Slash, Tom Jones

Others : Eric Prydz, John Mayer

Doubtless I've missed entries by rock bands I've never heard of, as
always...
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> Singles
> -------
> Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big drop
> in sales.

Yeah, I saw that the OCC had mentioned that (even before we knew which way
it'd gone) so I guess her sales must be, what, 50% down?

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Fun #2

And so the band Chris Moyles refers to as Fun Period make a last-ditch run
top top the chart, having been in the UK to promote the imminent release of
their album. As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams showed up at
Radio 1 to cover 'Somebody That I Used To Know' and so can claim some of the
credit for that song managing a 17th week in the Top 10, and probably
selling its millionth copy soon if not already.
Some questions still remain though, like why you'd put so much autotune on
the vocal if it's still going to end up sounding that crap.

> Top 10 : Rihanna #6,

Ho-hum, another samey Rihanna single.

>Saturdays #7,

With a title as bland as '30 Days', which makes me think of tax demands
rather than anything fun, it's no shocker that this drab song has not really
done the business, and by the looks of its performance during this week,
it's attracted very little interest beyond the core fans.
It may not be the band's fault, but because of the way they're marketed,
they seem to have got themselves into a position where every single they
release is judged more for its failure to reach Number One than for any
success it actually does have. As a result, the title may not be an accurate
prediction of how long it spends in the Top 40.
On a positive note, I believe they've doubled the number of singles in the
Top 40 that are available on CD.

>D'banj #9

He's a few months late for the Charles Dickens bicentenary, but nonetheless
'Oliver Twist' becomes the first UK hit for Nigerian singer Dapo Oyebanjo,
and one of the biggest ever hits in this country for an African resident (as
distinct from people born in Africa who've established their careers in
Europe or North America). The single combines popular West African rhythms
with lyrics vaguely reminiscent of Lou Bega's 'Mambo No. 5' and I actually
quite like it, not least because it's distinctive.

> Top 20 : Scissor Sisters #12,

First single from their imminent fourth album (at least, the first single to
actually get released) and it's a collaboration with Calvin Harris although
in this instance he doesn't get an artist credit. It's not as painful to
listen to as their last comeback single 'Fire With Fire' but it's still not
putting them back into the Top 10. Perhaps the novelty is wearing off.

>Labrinth #17,

Since it has climbed, I'm now glad I saved up some facts for this week's
commentary. 'Express Yourself' is a cover of the Charles Wright Band's
classic funk track; the original was also sampled on NWA's hit of the same
name, which is almost certainly where Labrinth would have heard it first,
but this version is closer to the Charles Wright one, aside from the
re-written lyrics.

>Emeli Sande (MKOL) #19

Already her third solo Top 20 hit, and her sixth overall. It probably hasn't
even peaked yet.

> Top 30 : Prof Green #27,

Thanks to a timely price reduction, this third single of his album has
already outpeaked the second to become his highest-charting post-album
single yet. And I've never even heard this on the radio.

> Skepta #29

His fifth Top 40 single uses a sample of 'Gonna Make You Sweat' by C&C Music
Factory, following in the footsteps of hits by MVP and, er, George Sampson.
Neither of them made the Top 20 and by the looks of it neither will this.

> Top 40 : Skrillex #32,

Matching the peak of his previous hit, though that made several small climbs
once it had made the Top 40 so this might too.

> Ben Howard #37

Only heard the end of this. It sounded like James Morrison.

> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)

Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
show?

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Rascal Flatts #41,

A single that should theoretically have been a climber rather than an entry,
as a record company error (other than the fact they released this
toe-curling sub-Westlife preachfest in the first place, I mean) meant that
sales were split between the correct title 'Bless the Broken Road' and the
Freudian Slip 'Bless The Broekn Radio'. Since the single peaked at 76,
adding the few hundred sales under the other title would inevitably have
made this a T75 single in reality.
Still, it hasn't quite done enough this week to give them a first Top 40
hit, and if we're lucky they never will.

> wRetch 32 #46,

Under the circumstances, I though you'd be rushing to credit Ed Sheeran's
contribution to this hit.

> Mark Ronson & Katy B #55,

A single released to publicise a well-known drink and a well-known sporting
event. Here's hoping radio stations realise it's an advert and don't play it
for free, eh?

>Glee Cast (IACBTMN) #69,

Their hundredth Top 75 hit is a cover of the Jim Steinman-penned track that
has previously charted for Pandora's Box, Celine Dion and Meat Loaf. At
least it seems the sort of song that would suit this.

> Angus & Julia Stone #72,

You're correct here, although the OCC seem to have attributed it to Julia
Stone alone. Perhaps there was some confusion with her solo career, or maybe
they're as creeped out as I am at the thought of a brother and sister
singing 'You're The One That I Want' to each other.

>Madonna (GGW) #73

The intended second single from her album isn't even the second-highest
charting from it. It's only struggled into the Top 75 due to physical sales
early in the week; reportedly the entire album is being sold on CD for less
than four quid, so no wonder.

> Re-entries T75 : Donna Summer (IFL) #45,

Highest of five re-entries for her in the Top 200, for obvious reasons.
Nothing in the Top 40 though, possibly because the sales were split over so
many of her hits.

>Lana Del Rey (VG) #62,

I presume radio stations have returned to playing this now the follow-ups
have been and gone.

>RHCP (UTB) #68,

Sometimes I wish iTunes would try discounting less obvious songs from
catalogue acts instead of the obvious hits that get played on Heart FM.

>Alanis M (I) #74

Not to be confused with the many other pop stars called Alanis. Who knew my
1996 old chart thread was so influential.

> Albums
> ------
> Keane remain #1 - just.

Their first album since 2006 to manage more than one week at the top,
although I suspect this may flatter its actual sales. I'm sure they're way
down, and it'll probably fall a lot thanks to next week's more crowded
release schedule.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Tenacious D #2,

Third album from the comedy-rock duo which includes well-known actor Jack
Black - as with their debut set, theit backing group also includes Dave
Grohl on drums.
A limited-edition format adds two more songs and a DVD. The album also
exists in both clean and explicit versions, but there's little risk of
potential buyers picking up the wrong one by mistake: the explicit version
is the one with the massive penis on the cover.

>Ren Harvieu #5

A debut album from the much-tipped Salford singer, though its release has
been greatly delayed: this time last year she broke two vertebrae when
somebody fell on her. As somebody always looking for the local angle, I'm
pleased to report now that she's made a significant recovery now thanks to
the Royal National Orthaepedic Hospital in Stanmore.
She's now in a fit state to tour and promote this album, which features
songwriting input from Dave McCabe of the Zutons and Howie Payne (formerly
of fellow Liverpool band The Stands).

> Top 10 : Ben Howard #6,

Belated peak thanks to his intesive promotional activites this week.

> Garbage #10

The fifth studio album from Shirley Manson, Butch "Vot Do You Mean I Am
Vearing A" Vig, the bald bloke and the other one comes seven years after
their last one Bleed Like Me. It's released on their own Stun Volume label
after they parted company with their former major paymasters.
A few extra quid gets you a double CD with four extra songs and a different
coloured cover. Sadly, I got tired of them about 15 years ago so I'm not
going to bother. But people who do still like them have made this a fourth
consecutive (studio) Top 10 album.

> Top 20 : Beach House #15,

Their fourth album is the first to make the UK Top 75, though they only
narrowly missed out last time. For those not previously aware they're an
American duo (from Baltimore, Maryland, to be more exact) who specialise in
the sort of music known over there as "dream pop" and sometimes referred to
here as shoegaze or chillwave. They've also been compared to the Cocteau
Twins, and aptly enough this is released in the UK by Bella Union, a label
owned by that group's former bassist Simon Raymonde.
They haven't changed their style greatly on this record but they have
apparently put the CD version in a glow-in-the-dark sleeve (I say apparently
because I've only ever seen it in well-lit shops).

>Glee Cast #17

I believe this is the eighth album in the main series, not counting the
various mini-albums, Christmas specials, best-ofs etc. and the last release
from Season 3.
This season has of course been transmitted here by Sky and consequently lost
viewers, but there does seem to have been a slight revival in its fortunes
in recent weeks which has helped this to recover some degree of "normal"
chart performance after Volume 7 got no higher than 56 - though of course a
release date in May rather than December will also have helped.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Engelbert Humperdink #21,

His announcement as this year's Eurovision entry has provoked a rash of
compilations and catalogue releases from various labels, but this is the
official product, featuring the Eurosong itself: it's track 2 between
'Release Me' and his most recent Top 40 hit 'Quando Quando Quando'. The
subsequent 18 tracks include 'The Last Waltz' and other hits and cover
versions.

> Morten Harket #37,

Apparently this is the fifth solo album by the now-ex-A-Ha frontman, but the
first to chart in the UK: his only previous Top 75 appearance here was when
the single 'A Kind Of Christmas Card' spent a week at 53 in August(!) 1995.
It's already topped the Norwegian chart and gone Top 3 in Germany, but can't
quite match up to that success over here.
The ten tracks include radio single 'Scared Of Heights', a cover of
Scandinavian hit by his compatriot Espen Lind, who also co-wrote both the
Train songs that are currently in the Top 40. There's also a song written by
the Pet Shop Boys.

>Gossip #47,

Their fifth album comes six years after their breakthrough set Standing In
The Way Of Control (and more like five after people really started buying
it). It's produced by Brian Higgins of the famous Xenomania "hit factory",
but as usual when he works with somebody who hasn't won a reality show, it's
not been the sort of spectacular commercial success presumably hoped for.

>Santana #49,

An album two decades in the making, according to the cover. Santana has/have
of course released several albums in the last couple of decades, including
several with star guests, but what they apparently mean is that this is an
instrumental album featuring several tracks set aside from previous
sessions. Curiously there is one track with vocals anyway.

>Best Coast #55,

Second album from the Californian (hence their name) indie duo fronted by
singer Bethany Consentino, who apparently wants to shake off some of the
lo-fi slacker cat-lady image engendered by their first album and thus called
in big-name producer Jon Brion to give this record a slicker, more
radio-friendly sound. It also lasts longer than the first one, crossing the
half-hour mark even in its standard form: there's a version with bonus
tracks that lasts even longer. Reportedly this album is tipped for Top 10
success in their homeland, but over here it's not done much better than the
last one, having possibly fallen between two stools. It may or may not be
significant that I saw a copy of the CD in the £2 second-hand rack at Fopp
yesterday, ie six days after it was released.

> Niki & The Dove #60,

I had no idea that anybody who didn't post on Buzzjack liked this (well it
got a good review in the NME, but they're Swedish so that doesn't count). It
also inspired a customer of a well-known online retailer to write:
"When i got this in the post i went stragt up to my room to play it and wow
it was amazing such a good style none else is simeler to them it is so
unuswul but in an amazing wow i couldnt beleve my ears it was apsalotly
amazing if you don't by this album you are mising out on a big thing buy it
now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Who am I to disagree with that?

>Willie Nelson #73,

Though he made the singles chart as long ago as 1982 and enjoyed a big hit
with his Julio Iglesias duet in 1984, it took until 2008 for him to crack
the UK album chart with the best-of set Legend (possibly not the
best-selling album of that title).
His second chart album is a collection of collaborations, mostly with his
son Lukas Nelson, but there are also appearances from Merle Haggard, Sheryl
Crow and Snoop Dogg. No prizes for guessing what the song featuring the
latter guest is about.

> Simian Mobile Disco #74

Their third album, meaning that they can now claim a bigger back catalogue
than the original Simian. As with their last album, they rely on sampled
vocals rather than guest stars on this occasion, but this hasn't performed
as well as previous work commercially.

> Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53,

Has the special offer started up again or has it just returned from budget
chart exile?

>Donna Summer (TJ-VBO) #67

As in the singles chart, this has presumably suffered somewhat from sales
being spread over multiple compilations.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.

Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper their
fans wanted.

> Top 10 : J-Lo,

Haven't heard this at all but apparently it's being played a lot on the
telly. I presume that means the song's rubbish but she waves her arse around
in the video.

>Labrinth,

Not sure it has the momentum to climb this far yet, AIUI there's no vid.

> Paloma Faith

I vaguely hope so, just to avoid all the whining I'll have to scroll through
on the forums otherwise. At this point I'm about 50/50 on whether she can do
it though.

> Top 30 : Pitbull

Flopping so far, but publicity for the film could help it.

> Top 40 : Rumer

Doesn't seem too likely on previous form.

> Albums
> ------
> Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
> guess.
>
> Top 5 : Fun

Hmm... I'm not sure about this, since the single hasn't been as big as
Gotye's (and that seems the most obvious comparison). Has it charted on
import at all?

> Top 10 : Temper Trap

You do realise this isn't the album that 'Sweet Disposition' is on?
I don't really know how this will do, although The Big Pink haven't set a
great precedent.

> Top 20 : Slash,

This is another of those magazine covermount releases, so it won't have any
CD sales included in the chart. It might chart on downloads (as he did last
time) but not at this height.

> Tom Jones

Considering that his last album went in at 2 after being Number 1 on all the
mids, and that he's now appearing twice a week on a popular singing contest,
I think he might be at least a contender to top the chart.

> Others : Eric Prydz,

Dubious IMO, if he couldn't chart an album before off the back of massive
hit singles.

>John Mayer

Inexplicably doing well on Amazon, so yes.

> Doubtless I've missed entries by rock bands I've never heard of, as
> always...

Jealous as I am of the implication that you've never heard of the Cult, I'm
afraid they have to be considered and it's just about possible that the
Enemy have enough fans left to scrape T75 at today's sales levels.
Moving into other areas, there's a comeback set from Saint Etienne (a band,
perhaps, but not really rock) and Far East Movement did actually chart their
last album so we can't totally rule them out.
Meanwhile, there are albums by solo artists too: Joe Bonamassa was unlucky
to miss the Top 10 with his last (solo) album and should be safe for at
least T20. You may not be aware that Gaz Coombes used to be the lead singer
of Supergrass - but I suspect a lot of people aren't so he may not get far.
On the other hand, Paul Buchanan is unlikely to face such problems.

Chris
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[Chris Brown]

On May 20, 11:46 pm, "Chris Brown" <extreme_r...@yahoospam.com> wrote:
> "Paul Hyett" <vidcap...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
>

PS - have just heard that Robin Gibb has died. Strong possibility of
some Bee Gees re-entries then.

[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 20 May 2012 at 23:46:00, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big
>>drop in sales.
>
>Yeah, I saw that the OCC had mentioned that (even before we knew which
>way it'd gone) so I guess her sales must be, what, 50% down?

I know Fun registered a sales increase (though *why* is a mystery), so
must have sold >52.7k. I would guess 55k-ish.

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Fun #2
>
>And so the band Chris Moyles refers to as Fun Period make a last-ditch
>run top top the chart, having been in the UK to promote the imminent
>release of their album.

Ah, *that* explains the sales increase, though still not why anybody
would buy the turgid crap in the first place...

>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams

That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
album this year?

>Some questions still remain though, like why you'd put so much autotune
>on the vocal if it's still going to end up sounding that crap.

Perhaps not unconnected...
>
>> Top 10 :

>
>>Saturdays #7,
>
>With a title as bland as '30 Days', which makes me think of tax demands
>rather than anything fun, it's no shocker that this drab song has not
>really done the business

So what's new. :p

>
>> Top 20 : Scissor Sisters #12,
>
>First single from their imminent fourth album (at least, the first
>single to actually get released)

Huh?

> It's not as painful to listen to as their last comeback single 'Fire
>With Fire' but it's still not putting them back into the Top 10.
>Perhaps the novelty is wearing off.

Surely that happened long ago?

>
>> Top 30 : Prof Green #27,
>
>Thanks to a timely price reduction, this third single of his album has
>already outpeaked the second to become his highest-charting post-album
>single yet. And I've never even heard this on the radio.

Nor have I, but that's because I don't listen to the radio - well
certainly not any channel likely to play it anyway. :p

>
>> Ben Howard #37
>
>Only heard the end of this. It sounded like James Morrison.

Sounded more like Jason Mraz, to me.

>
>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>
>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
>show?

Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.

>
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) :
>

>> wRetch 32 #46,
>
>Under the circumstances, I though you'd be rushing to credit Ed
>Sheeran's contribution to this hit.

I'd have to hear it, first...

>
>> Angus & Julia Stone #72,
>
>You're correct here, although the OCC seem to have attributed it to
>Julia Stone alone. Perhaps there was some confusion with her solo career

She's had a solo career?

>, or maybe they're as creeped out as I am at the thought of a brother
>and sister singing 'You're The One That I Want' to each other.

No worse than that XF duo, surely?

>
>> Re-entries T75 : Donna Summer (IFL) #45,
>
>Highest of five re-entries for her in the Top 200, for obvious reasons.
>Nothing in the Top 40 though, possibly because the sales were split
>over so many of her hits.

Or because she died too late in the week...

>
>>Lana Del Rey (VG) #62,
>
>I presume radio stations have returned to playing this now the
>follow-ups have been and gone.

Or because it was covered on The Voice?

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> Keane remain #1 - just.
>
>Their first album since 2006 to manage more than one week at the top,
>although I suspect this may flatter its actual sales.

20k, if they're lucky...

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Tenacious D #2,
>
>Third album from the comedy-rock duo which includes well-known actor
>Jack Black - as with their debut set, theit backing group also includes
>Dave Grohl on drums.

>A limited-edition format adds two more songs and a DVD. The album also
>exists in both clean and explicit versions, but there's little risk of
>potential buyers picking up the wrong one by mistake: the explicit
>version is the one with the massive penis on the cover.

That's not a nice way to describe Jack Black... :p

>
>>Ren Harvieu #5
>
>A debut album from the much-tipped Salford singer

One I might buy at some point.
>
>> Garbage #10

>A few extra quid gets you a double CD with four extra songs and a
>different coloured cover. Sadly, I got tired of them about 15 years ago
>so I'm not going to bother. But people who do still like them have made
>this a fourth consecutive (studio) Top 10 album.

Though probably on well under 10k

>
>> Top 20 : Beach House #15,
>
>Their fourth album is the first to make the UK Top 75

Which is presumably why I've never heard of them before.

>
>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Engelbert Humperdink #21,
>
>His announcement as this year's Eurovision entry has provoked a rash of
>compilations and catalogue releases from various labels, but this is
>the official product, featuring the Eurosong itself: it's track 2
>between 'Release Me' and his most recent Top 40 hit 'Quando Quando
>Quando'.

I don't remember that - was it in 1969 or something? 8)

>
>>Santana #49,
>
>An album two decades in the making, according to the cover. Santana
>has/have of course released several albums in the last couple of
>decades, including several with star guests, but what they apparently
>mean is that this is an instrumental album featuring several tracks set
>aside from previous sessions. Curiously there is one track with vocals
>anyway.

Then how is it an 'instrumental' album??
>
>>Best Coast #55,

> Reportedly this album is tipped for Top 10 success in their homeland,
>but over here it's not done much better than the last one, having
>possibly fallen between two stools.

Or because it sounds like someone producing two of them? :p

>
>> Niki & The Dove #60,
>
>I had no idea that anybody who didn't post on Buzzjack liked this

Or even knew it existed?

>
>>Willie Nelson #73,
>
>Though he made the singles chart as long ago as 1982 and enjoyed a big
>hit with his Julio Iglesias duet in 1984, it took until 2008 for him to
>crack the UK album chart with the best-of set Legend (possibly not the
>best-selling album of that title).

Oh well, at least he's someone I've actually heard of.

>
>> Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53,
>
>Has the special offer started up again or has it just returned from
>budget chart exile?

No, it's been hovering just outside the top 75 for a while.

>
>>Donna Summer (TJ-VBO) #67
>
>As in the singles chart, this has presumably suffered somewhat from
>sales being spread over multiple compilations.

And/or lack of stock, since her fans are likely to be middle-aged now,
and therefore prefer physical product to downloads, especially for
albums.

>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>
>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper
>their fans wanted.

Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.

>
>> Top 10 : J-Lo,
>
>Haven't heard this at all but apparently it's being played a lot on the
>telly. I presume that means the song's rubbish but she waves her arse
>around in the video.

Interestingly, the rap-free version is at #194 on iTunes, partly due to
me.

>
>>Labrinth,
>
>Not sure it has the momentum to climb this far yet, AIUI there's no vid.

You say that like its a *bad* thing...

>
>> Paloma Faith
>
>I vaguely hope so, just to avoid all the whining I'll have to scroll
>through on the forums otherwise. At this point I'm about 50/50 on
>whether she can do it though.

Safe to say her album will out-chart this single, though.

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
>>guess.

Or *was*, until Robin Gibb died - now their 'Number Ones' album will
surely leap from 34-1.

>>
>> Top 5 : Fun
>
>Hmm... I'm not sure about this, since the single hasn't been as big as
>Gotye's (and that seems the most obvious comparison). Has it charted on
>import at all?

Not that I've seen - but very few ever do, so that's hardly conclusive.

>
>> Tom Jones
>
>Considering that his last album went in at 2 after being Number 1 on
>all the mids, and that he's now appearing twice a week on a popular
>singing contest, I think he might be at least a contender to top the
>chart.

Or was, until...

[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 20 May 2012 at 16:39:33, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoo.com>
wrote in uk.music.charts :

Especially as the time of the week is more conducive than for Donna
Summer...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 20 May 2012 at 23:46:00, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big
>>> drop in sales.
>>
>>Yeah, I saw that the OCC had mentioned that (even before we knew which way
>>it'd gone) so I guess her sales must be, what, 50% down?
>
> I know Fun registered a sales increase (though *why* is a mystery),

I'm going to make a wild guess that more people bought it last week than
this.

> so must have sold >52.7k. I would guess 55k-ish.

Nearer 58k, apparently, which suggests a real uptick right at the end of the
week.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Fun #2
>>
>>And so the band Chris Moyles refers to as Fun Period make a last-ditch run
>>top top the chart, having been in the UK to promote the imminent release
>>of their album.
>
> Ah, *that* explains the sales increase, though still not why anybody would
> buy the turgid crap in the first place...

Fair point.

>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams

Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
single, as it'd be so massively different without that.

> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new album
> this year?

I'm sure not many people know this, but I'm not actually one of the blokes
from Paramore.

>>Some questions still remain though, like why you'd put so much autotune on
>>the vocal if it's still going to end up sounding that crap.
>
> Perhaps not unconnected...

Well, I'm pretty sure it was connected to something, otherwise it wouldn't
have worked.

>>> Top 10 :
>>
>>>Saturdays #7,
>>
>>With a title as bland as '30 Days', which makes me think of tax demands
>>rather than anything fun, it's no shocker that this drab song has not
>>really done the business
>
> So what's new. :p

Nothing, apparently. If there's one thing worse than a band who keep cashing
on trends, it's a band who keep cashing in trends when they're not even
trendy any more.

>>> Top 20 : Scissor Sisters #12,
>>
>>First single from their imminent fourth album (at least, the first single
>>to actually get released)
>
> Huh?

They announced a collaboration with Azaelia Banks as the first single and it
got as far as a video but was than cancelled.

>> It's not as painful to listen to as their last comeback single 'Fire With
>> Fire' but it's still not putting them back into the Top 10. Perhaps the
>> novelty is wearing off.
>
> Surely that happened long ago?

You'd think.

>>> Top 30 : Prof Green #27,
>>
>>Thanks to a timely price reduction, this third single of his album has
>>already outpeaked the second to become his highest-charting post-album
>>single yet. And I've never even heard this on the radio.
>
> Nor have I, but that's because I don't listen to the radio - well
> certainly not any channel likely to play it anyway. :p

I do and I still haven't. I'm guessing it's sold more by the video.

>>> Ben Howard #37
>>
>>Only heard the end of this. It sounded like James Morrison.
>
> Sounded more like Jason Mraz, to me.

Maybe if he cleared his throat.
But you've heard more of the song so you're probably right.

>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>
>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
>>show?
>
> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.

This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?

>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) :
>>
>>> wRetch 32 #46,
>>
>>Under the circumstances, I though you'd be rushing to credit Ed Sheeran's
>>contribution to this hit.
>
> I'd have to hear it, first...

Actually, that's a good point because he could be rapping too couldn't he?

>>> Angus & Julia Stone #72,
>>
>>You're correct here, although the OCC seem to have attributed it to Julia
>>Stone alone. Perhaps there was some confusion with her solo career
>
> She's had a solo career?

Yes, I heard her on Loose Ends a few weeks ago (the radio show, obviously,
not the band).

>>, or maybe they're as creeped out as I am at the thought of a brother and
>>sister singing 'You're The One That I Want' to each other.
>
> No worse than that XF duo, surely?

Fortunately I've repressed that memory (if I ever had it).

>>> Re-entries T75 : Donna Summer (IFL) #45,
>>
>>Highest of five re-entries for her in the Top 200, for obvious reasons.
>>Nothing in the Top 40 though, possibly because the sales were split over
>>so many of her hits.
>
> Or because she died too late in the week...

Well, that too - but Etta James died at a similar stage and still managed to
sneak T40 at the last minute because the sort of people who rush onto iTunes
when somebody dies only knew two of her songs.

>>>Lana Del Rey (VG) #62,
>>
>>I presume radio stations have returned to playing this now the follow-ups
>>have been and gone.
>
> Or because it was covered on The Voice?

Maybe, I'd already forgotten that.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Keane remain #1 - just.
>>
>>Their first album since 2006 to manage more than one week at the top,
>>although I suspect this may flatter its actual sales.
>
> 20k, if they're lucky...

They weren't (quite)...

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Tenacious D #2,
>>
>>Third album from the comedy-rock duo which includes well-known actor Jack
>>Black - as with their debut set, theit backing group also includes Dave
>>Grohl on drums.
>
>>A limited-edition format adds two more songs and a DVD. The album also
>>exists in both clean and explicit versions, but there's little risk of
>>potential buyers picking up the wrong one by mistake: the explicit version
>>is the one with the massive penis on the cover.
>
> That's not a nice way to describe Jack Black... :p

I thought somebody might make that joke. I thought it might even have been
me.

>>>Ren Harvieu #5
>>
>>A debut album from the much-tipped Salford singer
>
> One I might buy at some point.

Even I can't rule it out.

>>> Garbage #10
>
>>A few extra quid gets you a double CD with four extra songs and a
>>different coloured cover. Sadly, I got tired of them about 15 years ago so
>>I'm not going to bother. But people who do still like them have made this
>>a fourth consecutive (studio) Top 10 album.
>
> Though probably on well under 10k

Well guessed.

>>> Top 20 : Beach House #15,
>>
>>Their fourth album is the first to make the UK Top 75
>
> Which is presumably why I've never heard of them before.

I suppose it might be, but probably not.

>>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Engelbert Humperdink #21,
>>
>>His announcement as this year's Eurovision entry has provoked a rash of
>>compilations and catalogue releases from various labels, but this is the
>>official product, featuring the Eurosong itself: it's track 2 between
>>'Release Me' and his most recent Top 40 hit 'Quando Quando Quando'.
>
> I don't remember that - was it in 1969 or something? 8)

You're only 30 years out.
Er, it was in 1999, during the easy-listening revival, not 1939. His last
before that was in 1972 though.

>>>Santana #49,
>>
>>An album two decades in the making, according to the cover. Santana
>>has/have of course released several albums in the last couple of decades,
>>including several with star guests, but what they apparently mean is that
>>this is an instrumental album featuring several tracks set aside from
>>previous sessions. Curiously there is one track with vocals anyway.
>
> Then how is it an 'instrumental' album??

No, I didn't get that bit either

>>>Best Coast #55,
>
>> Reportedly this album is tipped for Top 10 success in their homeland, but
>> over here it's not done much better than the last one, having possibly
>> fallen between two stools.
>
> Or because it sounds like someone producing two of them? :p

You've heard her singing voice then?

>>> Niki & The Dove #60,
>>
>>I had no idea that anybody who didn't post on Buzzjack liked this
>
> Or even knew it existed?

Why would you assume that? I know where Las Vegas is, doesn't mean I want to
go there.

>>>Willie Nelson #73,
>>
>>Though he made the singles chart as long ago as 1982 and enjoyed a big hit
>>with his Julio Iglesias duet in 1984, it took until 2008 for him to crack
>>the UK album chart with the best-of set Legend (possibly not the
>>best-selling album of that title).
>
> Oh well, at least he's someone I've actually heard of.

And thus proves my point about Niki & The Dove and Beach House?

>>> Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53,
>>
>>Has the special offer started up again or has it just returned from budget
>>chart exile?
>
> No, it's been hovering just outside the top 75 for a while.

Hmm. Probably a genuine sales rise then, even with sales down overall.
I don't know why this isn't in the budget chart though.

>>>Donna Summer (TJ-VBO) #67
>>
>>As in the singles chart, this has presumably suffered somewhat from sales
>>being spread over multiple compilations.
>
> And/or lack of stock, since her fans are likely to be middle-aged now, and
> therefore prefer physical product to downloads, especially for albums.

Not sure either of those things can be taken as read nowadays, nor indeed do
I know what was going on with the stock levels.

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>>
>>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper their
>>fans wanted.
>
> Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.

But of course that doesn't account for bundles or CD sales.

>>> Top 10 : J-Lo,
>>
>>Haven't heard this at all but apparently it's being played a lot on the
>>telly. I presume that means the song's rubbish but she waves her arse
>>around in the video.
>
> Interestingly, the rap-free version is at #194 on iTunes, partly due to
> me.

It's not *that* interesting. But this isn't looking like a great week for
Pitbull.

>>>Labrinth,
>>
>>Not sure it has the momentum to climb this far yet, AIUI there's no vid.
>
> You say that like its a *bad* thing...

Actually, I didn't imply it was a good or a bad thing.

>>> Paloma Faith
>>
>>I vaguely hope so, just to avoid all the whining I'll have to scroll
>>through on the forums otherwise. At this point I'm about 50/50 on whether
>>she can do it though.
>
> Safe to say her album will out-chart this single, though.

Yeah, unless she puts on a massive spurt and gets to Number One!

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
>>> guess.
>
> Or *was*, until Robin Gibb died - now their 'Number Ones' album will
> surely leap from 34-1.

"Surely"?
I mean, it's bound to get a sales boost and I'd certainly have been
predicting it for re-entry had it not already been in the chart anyway.
Possibly one of their other compilations will re-chart though: Ultimate Bee
Gees seems to be doing best online.
As for a Number One though, they didn't even come close when Maurice Gibb
died so we can't assume it will this time either.

>>> Top 5 : Fun
>>
>>Hmm... I'm not sure about this, since the single hasn't been as big as
>>Gotye's (and that seems the most obvious comparison). Has it charted on
>>import at all?
>
> Not that I've seen - but very few ever do, so that's hardly conclusive.

Surely the question is how many albums that have failed to chart on import
get this high on domestic release?

>>> Tom Jones
>>
>>Considering that his last album went in at 2 after being Number 1 on all
>>the mids, and that he's now appearing twice a week on a popular singing
>>contest, I think he might be at least a contender to top the chart.
>
> Or was, until...

...He had his last hit single to date collaborating with Robin Gibb?

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 21 May 2012 at 21:59:40, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big
>>>> drop in sales.
>>>
>>>Yeah, I saw that the OCC had mentioned that (even before we knew which way
>>>it'd gone) so I guess her sales must be, what, 50% down?
>>
>> I know Fun registered a sales increase (though *why* is a mystery),
>
>I'm going to make a wild guess that more people bought it last week than
>this.
>
>> so must have sold >52.7k. I would guess 55k-ish.
>
>Nearer 58k, apparently, which suggests a real uptick right at the end of the
>week.

Indeed.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------

>
>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>
>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>
>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new album
>> this year?
>
>I'm sure not many people know this, but I'm not actually one of the blokes
>from Paramore.

I never said you were, but you always seem to know more about
forthcoming album releases than I do, especially rock ones.

>
>>>> Top 30 : Prof Green #27,
>>

>> Nor have I, but that's because I don't listen to the radio - well
>> certainly not any channel likely to play it anyway. :p
>
>I do and I still haven't. I'm guessing it's sold more by the video.

My above comment applies there too (with minor adjustments).

>
>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>
>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
>>>show?
>>
>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>
>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?

Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete idiot
who cares nothing about factual accuracy'...

>
>>>>Lana Del Rey (VG) #62,
>>>
>>>I presume radio stations have returned to playing this now the follow-ups
>>>have been and gone.
>>
>> Or because it was covered on The Voice?
>
>Maybe, I'd already forgotten that.

Or never knew it?
>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------

>>>> Garbage #10
>>
>>>A few extra quid gets you a double CD with four extra songs and a
>>>different coloured cover. Sadly, I got tired of them about 15 years ago so
>>>I'm not going to bother. But people who do still like them have made this
>>>a fourth consecutive (studio) Top 10 album.
>>
>> Though probably on well under 10k
>
>Well guessed.

Not that difficult, since only the top 5/6 have been selling >10k
recently. :(

>
>>>>Willie Nelson #73,
>>>
>>>Though he made the singles chart as long ago as 1982 and enjoyed a big hit
>>>with his Julio Iglesias duet in 1984, it took until 2008 for him to crack
>>>the UK album chart with the best-of set Legend (possibly not the
>>>best-selling album of that title).
>>
>> Oh well, at least he's someone I've actually heard of.
>
>And thus proves my point about Niki & The Dove and Beach House?

I must've missed that?

>
>>>> Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53,
>>>
>>>Has the special offer started up again or has it just returned from budget
>>>chart exile?
>>
>> No, it's been hovering just outside the top 75 for a while.
>
>Hmm. Probably a genuine sales rise then, even with sales down overall.
>I don't know why this isn't in the budget chart though.

Because it's more than £3.69?

>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>>>
>>>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper their
>>>fans wanted.
>>
>> Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.
>
>But of course that doesn't account for bundles or CD sales.

Hey, that's my line... :p

>
>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
>>>> guess.
>>
>> Or *was*, until Robin Gibb died - now their 'Number Ones' album will
>> surely leap from 34-1.
>
>"Surely"?

No 'don't call me Shirley' line?

>As for a Number One though, they didn't even come close when Maurice
>Gibb died so we can't assume it will this time either.

But album sales are in the toilet ATM, so it wouldn't take much...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 21 May 2012 at 21:59:40, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Rita Ora just hangs on at #1 (by just 1k, apparently), despite a big
>>>>> drop in sales.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, I saw that the OCC had mentioned that (even before we knew which
>>>>way
>>>>it'd gone) so I guess her sales must be, what, 50% down?
>>>
>>> I know Fun registered a sales increase (though *why* is a mystery),
>>
>>I'm going to make a wild guess that more people bought it last week than
>>this.
>>
>>> so must have sold >52.7k. I would guess 55k-ish.
>>
>>Nearer 58k, apparently, which suggests a real uptick right at the end of
>>the
>>week.
>
> Indeed.

They were down in the middle of the week, weren't they?

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>>
>>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>>
>>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
>>> album
>>> this year?
>>
>>I'm sure not many people know this, but I'm not actually one of the blokes
>>from Paramore.
>
> I never said you were,

Now, was my joke too subtle or just too poor to dignify with
acknowledgement?

> but you always seem to know more about forthcoming album releases than I
> do, especially rock ones.

That doesn't really apply to bands you like more than me, though. Or ones
whose releases would have this much hype.

>>>>> Top 30 : Prof Green #27,
>>>
>>> Nor have I, but that's because I don't listen to the radio - well
>>> certainly not any channel likely to play it anyway. :p
>>
>>I do and I still haven't. I'm guessing it's sold more by the video.
>
> My above comment applies there too (with minor adjustments).

I don't know what key it's in, I've never heard it...

>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>
>>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
>>>>show?
>>>
>>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>>
>>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?
>
> Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete idiot who
> cares nothing about factual accuracy'...

That doesn't make the song any better though. In any case presumably
somebody told him it was a new entry, he didn't just make it up.

>>>>>Lana Del Rey (VG) #62,
>>>>
>>>>I presume radio stations have returned to playing this now the
>>>>follow-ups
>>>>have been and gone.
>>>
>>> Or because it was covered on The Voice?
>>
>>Maybe, I'd already forgotten that.
>
> Or never knew it?

I can't remember! :P

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Garbage #10
>>>
>>>>A few extra quid gets you a double CD with four extra songs and a
>>>>different coloured cover. Sadly, I got tired of them about 15 years ago
>>>>so
>>>>I'm not going to bother. But people who do still like them have made
>>>>this
>>>>a fourth consecutive (studio) Top 10 album.
>>>
>>> Though probably on well under 10k
>>
>>Well guessed.
>
> Not that difficult, since only the top 5/6 have been selling >10k
> recently. :(

Also, not very many people would want to buy a Garbage album in 2012.

>>>>>Willie Nelson #73,
>>>>
>>>>Though he made the singles chart as long ago as 1982 and enjoyed a big
>>>>hit
>>>>with his Julio Iglesias duet in 1984, it took until 2008 for him to
>>>>crack
>>>>the UK album chart with the best-of set Legend (possibly not the
>>>>best-selling album of that title).
>>>
>>> Oh well, at least he's someone I've actually heard of.
>>
>>And thus proves my point about Niki & The Dove and Beach House?
>
> I must've missed that?

You'd heard of him before he charted an album.

>>>>> Re-entries : Abba (18H) #53,
>>>>
>>>>Has the special offer started up again or has it just returned from
>>>>budget
>>>>chart exile?
>>>
>>> No, it's been hovering just outside the top 75 for a while.
>>
>>Hmm. Probably a genuine sales rise then, even with sales down overall.
>>I don't know why this isn't in the budget chart though.
>
> Because it's more than £3.69?

Not in any shop I've ever seen it, but I know it's about the dealer price
really.
I don't see how they could get away with charging more than four quid for it
when it's in competition with Abba Gold.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper their
>>>>fans wanted.
>>>
>>> Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.
>>
>>But of course that doesn't account for bundles or CD sales.
>
> Hey, that's my line... :p

Is that what Example would have called the song if he'd released it himself?

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Once again there is no stand-out new release, so the #1 is anybody's
>>>>> guess.
>>>
>>> Or *was*, until Robin Gibb died - now their 'Number Ones' album will
>>> surely leap from 34-1.
>>
>>"Surely"?
>
> No 'don't call me Shirley' line?

No, it didn't seem the right time.

>>As for a Number One though, they didn't even come close when Maurice Gibb
>>died so we can't assume it will this time either.
>
> But album sales are in the toilet ATM, so it wouldn't take much...

True, but Maurice Gibb died in January and still couldn't get an album into
the Top 5. And there was no competition from downloads of individual tracks
then.

According to rumours on Twitter, the Top 3 on the Tuesday Mids are Joe
Bonamassa, John Mayer and Paul Buchanan. Even at a time of low sales there's
a big WTF in there.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 at 21:11:46, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.media.tv.misc :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------

>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>>>
>>>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>>>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>>>
>>>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
>>>>album
>>>> this year?
>>>
>>>I'm sure not many people know this, but I'm not actually one of the blokes
>>>from Paramore.
>>
>> I never said you were,
>
>Now, was my joke too subtle or just too poor to dignify with
>acknowledgement?

Yes.

>
>> but you always seem to know more about forthcoming album releases
>>than I do, especially rock ones.
>
>That doesn't really apply to bands you like more than me, though. Or
>ones whose releases would have this much hype.

You mean - virtually none?

>
>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a reality
>>>>>show?
>>>>
>>>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>>>
>>>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?
>>
>> Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete
>>idiot who cares nothing about factual accuracy'...
>
>That doesn't make the song any better though. In any case presumably
>somebody told him it was a new entry, he didn't just make it up.

He must have the charts in front of him, surely?

>
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper their
>>>>>fans wanted.
>>>>
>>>> Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.
>>>
>>>But of course that doesn't account for bundles or CD sales.
>>
>> Hey, that's my line... :p
>
>Is that what Example would have called the song if he'd released it himself?

Huh?
>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------

>According to rumours on Twitter, the Top 3 on the Tuesday Mids are Joe
>Bonamassa, John Mayer and Paul Buchanan. Even at a time of low sales
>there's a big WTF in there.
>

I'll believe this when I see it, and not before.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 May 2012 at 21:11:46, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.media.tv.misc :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>>>>
>>>>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>>>>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>>>>
>>>>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
>>>>> album
>>>>> this year?
>>>>

>>

>>> but you always seem to know more about forthcoming album releases than I
>>> do, especially rock ones.
>>
>>That doesn't really apply to bands you like more than me, though. Or ones
>>whose releases would have this much hype.
>
> You mean - virtually none?

I thought we were talking about Paramore?

>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a
>>>>>>reality
>>>>>>show?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>>>>
>>>>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?
>>>
>>> Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete idiot
>>> who cares nothing about factual accuracy'...
>>
>>That doesn't make the song any better though. In any case presumably
>>somebody told him it was a new entry, he didn't just make it up.
>
> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?

Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.

>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> The Wanted look dead certs for #1 next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, although I'm not sure if they got the Big Top 40 chart-topper
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>fans wanted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now not looking as certain, as they are only 5% above Fun on iTunes.
>>>>
>>>>But of course that doesn't account for bundles or CD sales.
>>>
>>> Hey, that's my line... :p
>>
>>Is that what Example would have called the song if he'd released it
>>himself?
>
> Huh?

You may or may not be aware that 'Chasing The Sun' was written by Example,
and that a lot of his recent material has dealt with over-indulgence in
artificial stimulants eg. [no pun intended!] 'Stay Awake' or 'Midnight Run'.
This isn't totally dissimilar from those but like most boyband songs it
avoids direct drug references.

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>According to rumours on Twitter, the Top 3 on the Tuesday Mids are Joe
>>Bonamassa, John Mayer and Paul Buchanan. Even at a time of low sales
>>there's a big WTF in there.
>>
> I'll believe this when I see it, and not before.

But you probably never will see the Tuesday mids now.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Wed, 23 May 2012 at 20:11:01, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>>>>>
>>>>>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>>>>>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
>>>>>> album
>>>>>> this year?
>>>>>
>
>>>
>>>> but you always seem to know more about forthcoming album releases than I
>>>> do, especially rock ones.
>>>
>>>That doesn't really apply to bands you like more than me, though. Or ones
>>>whose releases would have this much hype.
>>
>> You mean - virtually none?
>
>I thought we were talking about Paramore?

Well, not compared to urban or dance, anyway...

>
>>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a new
>>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a
>>>>>>>reality
>>>>>>>show?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete idiot
>>>> who cares nothing about factual accuracy'...
>>>
>>>That doesn't make the song any better though. In any case presumably
>>>somebody told him it was a new entry, he didn't just make it up.
>>
>> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?
>
>Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
>version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.

But he should *remember* - that's my point.

>
>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>

>>>> Hey, that's my line... :p
>>>
>>>Is that what Example would have called the song if he'd released it
>>>himself?
>>
>> Huh?
>
>You may or may not be aware that 'Chasing The Sun' was written by
>Example, and that a lot of his recent material has dealt with
>over-indulgence in artificial stimulants eg. [no pun intended!] 'Stay
>Awake' or 'Midnight Run'.

I wouldn't know - I avoid his songs like the plague...

> This isn't totally dissimilar from those but like most boyband songs
>it avoids direct drug references.

The main 'overdose' *they* induce seems to be oestrogen... 8)

>
>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>According to rumours on Twitter, the Top 3 on the Tuesday Mids are Joe
>>>Bonamassa, John Mayer and Paul Buchanan. Even at a time of low sales
>>>there's a big WTF in there.
>>>
>> I'll believe this when I see it, and not before.
>
>But you probably never will see the Tuesday mids now.

Even so, two of the three seem to be there on the latest ones. :o

Mind you, even Adele's 71st week sales will probably prevail over their
1st week sales, in the end... :p

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:TOHxnlSJ...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Wed, 23 May 2012 at 20:11:01, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As part of the promotion, they and Hayley Williams
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Presumably they brought her along to sing Janelle Monae's part of the
>>>>>>single, as it'd be so massively different without that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That reminds me - are Paramore actually going to be releasing a new
>>>>>>> album
>>>>>>> this year?
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> but you always seem to know more about forthcoming album releases than
>>>>> I
>>>>> do, especially rock ones.
>>>>
>>>>That doesn't really apply to bands you like more than me, though. Or
>>>>ones
>>>>whose releases would have this much hype.
>>>
>>> You mean - virtually none?
>>
>>I thought we were talking about Paramore?
>
> Well, not compared to urban or dance, anyway...

Yeah, because you can't move for publicity when Chicane release(s) an album.

>>>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maybe he's just not used to re-entries that aren't because of a
>>>>>>>>reality
>>>>>>>>show?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or perhaps a more obvious explanation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This song is so awful he's repressed all memory of hearing it before?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I was thinking along the lines of 'Reggie being a complete idiot
>>>>> who cares nothing about factual accuracy'...
>>>>
>>>>That doesn't make the song any better though. In any case presumably
>>>>somebody told him it was a new entry, he didn't just make it up.
>>>
>>> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?
>>
>>Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
>>version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.
>
> But he should *remember* - that's my point.

Indeed he should but, in fairness to him, he might not be willing to
contradict what's in front of him.

>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, that's my line... :p
>>>>
>>>>Is that what Example would have called the song if he'd released it
>>>>himself?
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>
>>You may or may not be aware that 'Chasing The Sun' was written by Example,
>>and that a lot of his recent material has dealt with over-indulgence in
>>artificial stimulants eg. [no pun intended!] 'Stay Awake' or 'Midnight
>>Run'.
>
> I wouldn't know - I avoid his songs like the plague...

The titles are a bit of a clue.

>> This isn't totally dissimilar from those but like most boyband songs it
>> avoids direct drug references.
>
> The main 'overdose' *they* induce seems to be oestrogen... 8)

Do they, actually? I don't think I've ever heard f them attracting the same
sort of hysteria as Justin Bieber or One Direction.

>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------

> Mind you, even Adele's 71st week sales will probably prevail over their
> 1st week sales, in the end... :p

Quite likely actually.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Thu, 24 May 2012 at 22:25:58, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>

>>>>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>

>>>> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?
>>>
>>>Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
>>>version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.
>>
>> But he should *remember* - that's my point.
>
>Indeed he should but, in fairness to him, he might not be willing to
>contradict what's in front of him.

So all we need to do is send him a bottle marked 'eat this poison'? :p

>
>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>

>>>You may or may not be aware that 'Chasing The Sun' was written by Example,
>>>and that a lot of his recent material has dealt with over-indulgence in
>>>artificial stimulants eg. [no pun intended!] 'Stay Awake' or 'Midnight
>>>Run'.
>>
>> I wouldn't know - I avoid his songs like the plague...
>
>The titles are a bit of a clue.
>

A bit cryptic, though.

>
>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>
>> Mind you, even Adele's 71st week sales will probably prevail over their
>> 1st week sales, in the end... :p
>
>Quite likely actually.

But will hers prevail over *everyone* else?

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:bxCD4Ufc...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Thu, 24 May 2012 at 22:25:58, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>
>>>>> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
>>>>version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.
>>>
>>> But he should *remember* - that's my point.
>>
>>Indeed he should but, in fairness to him, he might not be willing to
>>contradict what's in front of him.
>
> So all we need to do is send him a bottle marked 'eat this poison'? :p

Drink?

>>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>
>>>>You may or may not be aware that 'Chasing The Sun' was written by
>>>>Example,
>>>>and that a lot of his recent material has dealt with over-indulgence in
>>>>artificial stimulants eg. [no pun intended!] 'Stay Awake' or 'Midnight
>>>>Run'.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't know - I avoid his songs like the plague...
>>
>>The titles are a bit of a clue.
>>
> A bit cryptic, though.

Yeah, maybe the record company wouldn't let him call it "I got coked off my
tits and couldn't sleep".

>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>
>>> Mind you, even Adele's 71st week sales will probably prevail over their
>>> 1st week sales, in the end... :p
>>
>>Quite likely actually.
>
> But will hers prevail over *everyone* else?

I don't think she'll outsell all the other albums put together.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 at 19:58:42, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Coldplay/RiRi #30 (also a new peak, but *not* a
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>> entry, as Reggie claimed). 8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He must have the charts in front of him, surely?
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, but presumably it's sent through by the OCC so it will be their
>>>>>version, which often does list re-entries as NEs.
>>>>
>>>> But he should *remember* - that's my point.
>>>
>>>Indeed he should but, in fairness to him, he might not be willing to
>>>contradict what's in front of him.
>>
>> So all we need to do is send him a bottle marked 'eat this poison'? :p
>
>Drink?

What else would a bottle contain?