Pan Am - episodes in wrong order?

[JNugent]

Last Saturday's edition had the public exhibition of the nude photographs*
and ended with them being sold to the unseen Andy Warhol.

At the beginning of that episode, the "Previously on..." bit had shown the
photographee preparing to be photographed.

This week's ep had that incident as the *last* scene of the unfolding story,
whereas last week's had it as something that had already happened.

OTOH, the wikipedia episode guide identifies last night (Ep 13) as being in
its correct place.

Curious.


[* Though what the fuss was about only Heaven knows.]

[Robert Neville]

Yes - American Broadcasting Corp (ABC) decided to show the episodes out of order
in the US, so they followed the same misordering in the UK. They have a history
of doing this (see Firefly), purportedly picking out what they feel are the
stronger episodes and airing them first. The fact that it totally screws up the
storyline continuity arc and generates massive amounts of confusion doesn't seem
to percolate through their heads.

Presumably the DVD will have them ordered correctly.

[JNugent]

:-(

I assume that the front-end "Previously" was assembled to suit the changed
(wrong) order?

[John Dean]

Wow, someone who actually gives a shit about PanAm. Respect.

--
John Dean
Oxford

[Robert Neville]

JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>I assume that the front-end "Previously" was assembled to suit the changed
>(wrong) order?

I would think so - i wasn't paying that close attention. Those clips typically
don't show up on the DVD.

[Sofa - Spud]

I missed it this week for the first time , Final destination three was
deemed more fun by the assembly here. It's the repetitious stuff about
the spying thats done it.

[Sofa - Spud]

I've watched it all the way through - give us a recommendation as to
what we should be watching , seriously , I asked this before and was
pointed to the stunning breaking bad.

[MelanieSands]

Aaargh - oh dear. I thought this guy photographing her was supposed to
be
Andy Warhol, as in the other episode she wants to buy back all the
photos
for 500 dollars and then hears that Andy Warhol likes them, so I
somehow
thought this new guy she smooches with in the dark room was supposed
to
be... and then thought, they might have put on the right wig and stuff
because he really doesn't look much like him...

so what happened between redheaded spylady and her Croatian Nico? Oh
man,
do they do this on purpose to see if we are paying attention? I did
think there was something missing somewhere, but I thought that was
due
to the Christmas break.

Melanie

[JNugent]

I also had to check the episode guide to find out who "Ginny" was (she's only
been in two previous episodes, and they were shown prior to Christmas).

[Felicity S.]

Robert Neville wrote:

> J.Nugent wrote:

>> Last Saturday's edition had the public exhibition of the nude

>> photographs and ended with them being sold to the unseen Andy Warhol.

>> At the beginning of that episode, the "Previously on..." bit had shown
>> the photographee preparing to be photographed.

>> This week's ep had that incident as the *last* scene of the unfolding
>> story, whereas last week's had it as something that had already happened.

>> OTOH, the wikipedia episode guide identifies last night (Ep 13) as
>> being in its correct place.

Yes, that is correct, but only for certain values of 'correct'. :)

> American Broadcasting Corp (ABC) decided to show the episodes out of
> order in the US, so they followed the same misordering in the UK. They
> have a history of doing this (see Firefly), purportedly picking out what
> they feel are the stronger episodes and airing them first. The fact that
> it totally screws up the storyline continuity arc and generates massive
> amounts of confusion doesn't seem to percolate through their heads.

Ummm, kind of. For starters, this is the chronological order...

1 "Pilot"
2 "We'll Always Have Paris"
3 "Ich Bin Ein Berliner"
4 "Eastern Exposure"
5 "One Coin in a Fountain"
6 "The Genuine Article"

13 "Romance Languages"

7 "Truth or Dare"
8 "Unscheduled Departure"
9 "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
10 "Secrets and Lies"
11 "Diplomatic Relations"
12 "New Frontiers"

14 "1964"

What actually happened is that "Romance Languages" was pulled because it
just wasn't good enough to air during the Sweeps. The episode finally went
out against the Grammy's, since nobody would be watching it anyway.

And that date was also the 32nd birthday of Christina Ricci, lucky her.


Fliss

--
She said: Gotta go, the audition's at 4 and I still need my tan sprayed on.
He said: Best of luck! She said: It has nothing to do with luck.
She said: You just have to stand still and keep your eyes & mouth closed.

[MelanieSands]

Yes, they showed again sometime last night, and I had it on my digital
box
thing again, and she calls the photographer GRAHAME, so how could I
think
he was Andy Warhol? Then I remembered, yes, he photographed her on
the
plane in episode 2 or something.

Maybe they purposely mixed the episodes up so we'd sit up and pay
attention.
I only know, the dresses - on THEIR figures - are beautiful! At this
point
I wouldn't mind a season two, but of course that will never happen.

Melanie

[GordonD]

"Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote in message
news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.889679@orpheusnews...

> And that date was also the 32nd birthday of Christina Ricci, lucky her.

Dear God, little Wednesday is 32?
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

[Howard]

JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Curious.


I have stopped watching this series much exxxcept to watch Margot Robbie
and Karine Vanasse. I ususally watch it while I am working on something
so I don't have to endure the silly storylines.

Robbie is an absolutely classic beauty of staggering proportions, and
Vanasse's smile is as cute as cute can be ;)

It's such a pity that it is so hard to find good sexy wallpapers of
these gorgeous ladies...

H

PS: Yes I know ... I'm being that shallow ;)

[JNugent]

:-)

[Felicity S.]

Gordon D. wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:

>> And that date was also the 32nd birthday of Christina Ricci, lucky her.

> Dear God, little Wednesday is 32?

Yes, she was just 11 when she made that film.


Fliss

--
She said: His house was on a bluff over a lake. I always loved
the view, sunlight over water - my favourite spot.
He said: Yes, magical. Too bad you nuked it.

[Felicity S.]

Melanie Sands wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:

>> What actually happened is that "Romance Languages" was pulled
>> because it just wasn't good enough to air during the Sweeps.

>> The episode finally went out against the Grammy's, since nobody
>> would be watching it anyway.

> Maybe they purposely mixed the episodes up so we'd sit up and pay
> attention.

No, I just told you what actually happened.

> I only know, the dresses - on THEIR figures - are beautiful!

Thanks to 1960s girdles.

> At this point I wouldn't mind a season two, but of course that
> will never happen.

Sadly, we're not even getting the whole of season one.


Fliss

--
He said: Hey, that's good! She really looks...
You made her look beautiful.
He said: She *is* beautiful.

[GordonD]

"Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote in message

news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.889680@orpheusnews...

> Gordon D. wrote:
>
>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
>>> And that date was also the 32nd birthday of Christina Ricci, lucky her.
>
>> Dear God, little Wednesday is 32?
>
> Yes, she was just 11 when she made that film.

That's almost as bad as discovering that Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Janice
Rand in the first few episodes of 'Star Trek' - the blonde with the
basket-weave hairdo) is 81...

[Fred X]

Will these do?

http://img193.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1329919773883_2lo

http://img226.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1329920013972_351lo

Fred X

[Howard]

VERY nice Fred ... much appreciated. I'll get to work with Photoshop to
make a nice wallpaper for my 1680x105 screen now :)

Good watching !

Howard

[Howard]

MelanieSands <Melani...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I only know, the dresses - on THEIR figures - are beautiful!

Which is kind of ironic, considering none of them even needs one....

H

[Howard]

GordonD <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote in message
> news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.889680@orpheusnews...
> > Gordon D. wrote:
> >
> >> Felicity S. wrote:
> >
> >>> And that date was also the 32nd birthday of Christina Ricci, lucky her.
> >
> >> Dear God, little Wednesday is 32?
> >
> > Yes, she was just 11 when she made that film.
>
>
> That's almost as bad as discovering that Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Janice
> Rand in the first few episodes of 'Star Trek' - the blonde with the
> basket-weave hairdo) is 81...

OMG we're torturing ourselves now !!!

LOL


Howard

[JNugent]

What was that pop-up which appeared with that site?

[Howard]

Fred X <apa...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> Will these do?
>
> http://img193.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1329919773883_2lo
>
> http://img226.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1329920013972_351lo
>
> Fred X

By the way Fred ... how did you find these ? :-)

H

[Fred X]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:57:28 -0000, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm>
wrote:

I dunno was it porn?

Fred X

[Fred X]

I'm a member of a number of forums that have all the latest HQ pics of
celebs. There's more HQ stills from Pan Am and pics from events available
if you want them.

Fred X

[Howard]

Ahh interesting.

Thanks for the offer, but it was only those ladies that interested me
right now :)

H

[JNugent]

Not explicitly, but I closed all the browser windows as soon as it came up.

[Fred X]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:02:54 -0000, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm>

Most free picture hosts have pop ups, it's nothing to be concerned about.
Now excuse me I've just got to place a deposit on a Porsche as I've just
become significantly richer.

Fred X

[Fred X]

Yeah, I meant did you want more pics of those two.

Fred X

[Howard]

Fred X <apa...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> >> I'm a member of a number of forums that have all the latest HQ pics of
> >> celebs. There's more HQ stills from Pan Am and pics from events
> >> available
> >> if you want them.
> >>
> >> Fred X
> >
> > Ahh interesting.
> >
> > Thanks for the offer, but it was only those ladies that interested me
> > right now :)
> >
>
> Yeah, I meant did you want more pics of those two.
>
> Fred X

If it's not too much trouble, yes please :-)

Is one of those groups a binary.celebs usenet one ?

H

[Fred X]

No it's proper forums like Celebutopia.net.

Fred X

[Fred X]

Here's the rest of the pictures. I did notice how Margot seems to be one
of those women who look a lot better the way she looks in the show
compared to how she looks in real life.

http://img184.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330269753185_805lo

http://img128.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330270312407_249lo

Fred X

[Howard]

Fred X <apa...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> >>
> >> If it's not too much trouble, yes please :-)
> >>
> >> Is one of those groups a binary.celebs usenet one ?
> >>
> >
> > No it's proper forums like Celebutopia.net.
> >
> > Fred X
>
> Here's the rest of the pictures. I did notice how Margot seems to be one
> of those women who look a lot better the way she looks in the show
> compared to how she looks in real life.
>
> http://img184.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330269753185_805lo
>
> http://img128.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330270312407_249lo
>
> Fred X

Thanks a heap Fred. Got them :)

Re Margot ... I suspect that this may be because a) God love her but she
doesn't seem to have great personal taste for how she dresses and does
her hair, and b) maybe she intentionally dresses 'down' to get away from
the celeb thing.

I also notice she seems very modest. She doesn't go in for risque
outfits or photoshoots. Good for her if that is true and yikes is she a
beauty.

Vanasse's sexy smile seems to be enhanced by the way she is made up in
Pan Am definitely.

Howard

[Fred X]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:09:28 -0000, Howard <Howar...@home.com> wrote:

> Fred X <apa...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> >>
>> >> If it's not too much trouble, yes please :-)
>> >>
>> >> Is one of those groups a binary.celebs usenet one ?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No it's proper forums like Celebutopia.net.
>> >
>> > Fred X
>>
>> Here's the rest of the pictures. I did notice how Margot seems to be one
>> of those women who look a lot better the way she looks in the show
>> compared to how she looks in real life.
>>
>> http://img184.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330269753185_805lo
>>
>> http://img128.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1330270312407_249lo
>>
>> Fred X
>
> Thanks a heap Fred. Got them :)
>
> Re Margot ... I suspect that this may be because a) God love her but she
> doesn't seem to have great personal taste for how she dresses and does
> her hair, and b) maybe she intentionally dresses 'down' to get away from
> the celeb thing.

Cassidy Freeman from Smallville is the same. She looks really hot and
classy
on the show, but in real she seems to have a terrible dress sense and
style.

Fred X

[Howard]

Fred X <apa...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> > Re Margot ... I suspect that this may be because a) God love her but she
> > doesn't seem to have great personal taste for how she dresses and does
> > her hair, and b) maybe she intentionally dresses 'down' to get away from
> > the celeb thing.
>
> Cassidy Freeman from Smallville is the same. She looks really hot and
> classy
> on the show, but in real she seems to have a terrible dress sense and
> style.
>
> Fred X

Probably also a testament to top professional make up artists and
stylists on these shows :)

Howard

[Fred X]

Indeed! But there are a few celebs who could do with hiring them when
they are off duty as well!

Fred X

[Truebrit]

>> JNugent wrote:
> > Last Saturday's edition had the public exhibition of the nude
> > photographs* and ended with them being sold to the unseen Andy Warhol.
>
> > At the beginning of that episode, the "Previously on..." bit had
> > shown the photographee preparing to be photographed.
>
> > This week's ep had that incident as the *last* scene of the unfolding
> > story, whereas last week's had it as something that had already
> > happened.
> > OTOH, the wikipedia episode guide identifies last night (Ep 13) as
> > being in its correct place.
>
> > Curious.
>
> > [* Though what the fuss was about only Heaven knows.]
>
> "John Dean" <john-d...@fraglineone.net> wrote:
> Wow, someone who actually gives a shit about PanAm. Respect.
>

"Sofa - Spud" <comfy...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I've watched it all the way through - give us a recommendation as to
what we should be watching , seriously , I asked this before and was
pointed to the stunning breaking bad.

Justified. season 3 is now airing if you are interested, I find it almost as
entertaining as, Breaking Bad but not quite. :-)
Truebrit.

[Felicity S.]

Truebrit wrote:

> Sofa - Spud wrote:

>> John Dean wrote:
>>> JNugent wrote:

>>> Last Saturday's edition had the public exhibition of the nude
>>> photographs* and ended with them being sold to the unseen Andy Warhol.

>>> At the beginning of that episode, the "Previously on..." bit had
>>> shown the photographee preparing to be photographed.

>>> This week's ep had that incident as the *last* scene of the unfolding
>>> story, whereas last week's had it as something that had already
>>> happened. OTOH, the wikipedia episode guide identifies last night (Ep
>>> 13) as being in its correct place.

>> Wow, someone who actually gives a shit about Pan Am. Respect.

> I've watched it all the way through - give us a recommendation as to

> what we should be watching, seriously, I asked this before and was

> pointed to the stunning breaking bad.

> Justified. season 3 is now airing if you are interested, I find it
> almost as entertaining as, Breaking Bad but not quite. :-)

I had to read this three times in disbelief that season 3 of Pan Am is now
airing, until I wondered if there is a TV show called Justified. Yes?


Fliss

--
He said: This is ridiculous, she offered me a ride! I thought you're my friend?
She said: You're my friend with a small F, my friend with a big F is your wife.
He said: If you want to hurt my wife, then screw you! And that's with a big F.

[Truebrit]

>> >>> John Dean wrote:
>>>> JNugent wrote:
>
>>>> Last Saturday's edition had the public exhibition of the nude
>>>> photographs* and ended with them being sold to the unseen Andy Warhol.
>
>>>> At the beginning of that episode, the "Previously on..." bit had
>>>> shown the photographee preparing to be photographed.
>
>>>> This week's ep had that incident as the *last* scene of the unfolding
>>>> story, whereas last week's had it as something that had already
>>>> happened. OTOH, the wikipedia episode guide identifies last night (Ep
>>>> 13) as being in its correct place.
>
>>> Wow, someone who actually gives a shit about Pan Am. Respect.
>>

>>Sofa - Spud wrote:
>> I've watched it all the way through - give us a recommendation as to
>> what we should be watching, seriously, I asked this before and was
>> pointed to the stunning breaking bad.
>>

>>Truebrit wrote:
>> Justified. season 3 is now airing if you are interested, I find it
>> almost as entertaining as, Breaking Bad but not quite. :-)

> "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote:
> I had to read this three times in disbelief that season 3 of Pan Am is now
> airing, until I wondered if there is a TV show called Justified. Yes?
>

It seems perfectly clear to me. Spud was asking to be directed to shows to
watch and he included the comment he had been directed to the show called,
Breaking Bad by this method. I was merely pointing him to a show called
Justified and, commenting that is was in its third season.
Sorry if you were confused, Fliss. It was not my intention,
Truebrit.

[cqt...@hotmail.com]

Just watched this series and it's amusing reading the posts about the actresses from 5 years ago