Welcome back Tyne Tees!
Alex Brown
Channel Three North East is dead.
Long Live Tyne Tees.
Bruce Gyngell's plot to get rid of ITV companies' individual identities
finally bit the dust at 9.25 this morning, as viewers in the North-East were
welcomed to "a new look here on Tyne Tees Television".
Okay, so the new idents aren't especially great, but they're a lot better
than the ghastly C3NE ones.
They've brought back the
TT
TV
type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
behind it in blue. It's vaguely reminiscent of the 1970s/early 80s logo in
yellow on blue, except the letters of the logo are sadly no longer joined up.
It generally looks a bit cheap IMO, but then Tyne Tees hasn't really ever
been noted for its lavish idents in the past - and who cares, it's no longer
Channel 3 North East. The main down-side however is that they've kept the
same awful jingle.
For the history of TTTV's logo, I can thoroughly recommend Andrew Paul
Bowden's Tyne Tees Logo Page at
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7947/tynetees.html
Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
Alex.
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Gillian Hardy
>Channel Three North East is dead.
>Long Live Tyne Tees.
>
>Bruce Gyngell's plot to get rid of ITV companies' individual identities
>finally bit the dust at 9.25 this morning, as viewers in the North-East were
>welcomed to "a new look here on Tyne Tees Television".
We in YTV land are still getting the occasional "welcome to Channel
Three in the Yorkshire region" but thankfully not quite as often as
when Gyngell was in charge. But as someone who spent three long years
in the North East ...welcome back Tyne Tees.
>Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
>Alex.
Nope, don't like the whole ITV '3' thing. ITV seem to try to
reeducate the masses into calling the channel 'Channel 3' or 'ITV3'
every five years or so, always without success.
Gillian - SAVE OUR OPAL FRUITS!!!
Ouroboros
Alex Brown <ICS...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote in article
<6e15hk$80s...@leeds.ac.uk>...
: Channel Three North East is dead.
: Long Live Tyne Tees.
:
: Bruce Gyngell's plot to get rid of ITV companies' individual identities
: finally bit the dust at 9.25 this morning, as viewers in the North-East
were
: welcomed to "a new look here on Tyne Tees Television".
: Okay, so the new idents aren't especially great, but they're a lot
better
: than the ghastly C3NE ones.
:
: They've brought back the
: TT
: TV
: type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
: behind it in blue. It's vaguely reminiscent of the 1970s/early 80s logo
in
: yellow on blue, except the letters of the logo are sadly no longer
joined up.
: It generally looks a bit cheap IMO, but then Tyne Tees hasn't really
ever
: been noted for its lavish idents in the past - and who cares, it's no
longer
: Channel 3 North East. The main down-side however is that they've kept
the
: same awful jingle.
:
: For the history of TTTV's logo, I can thoroughly recommend Andrew Paul
: Bowden's Tyne Tees Logo Page at
:
: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7947/tynetees.html
: Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
: Alex.
I have never seen it for real, but from what I've seen at various
websites, I think It looked cheap, tacky and stupid, So It was good at
summing up ITV ;) - Quite frankly I'm glad I live in the South, Though The
Carlton Logo isn't much to look at, not like the good old Thames Logo. BTW
You know the old Thames Logo, Did they use to have a presenter that you
actually saw, telling you what was going to be on, behind a desk, or was
that just me? Sadly this logo was lost when the generic ITV Ident kicked
in :(
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Sad Ken
In article <01bd4ba3$580de520$68e2abc3@default>, "Ouroboros"
<Do.not.send...@my.address.please> writes:
> BTW
>You know the old Thames Logo, Did they use to have a presenter that you
>actually saw, telling you what was going to be on, behind a desk, or was
>that just me?
I remember that happening at Christmas, Easter, etc. There were two men who
appeared doing that, Phillip and Tom. I can't remember their surnames. During
these holiday periods, they were often seen sitting not behind a desk, but on a
leather armchair in front of a roaring fire. Even in the dying days of Thames,
they had an announcer behind a desk for the overnight period.
Sad Ken.
Gus Ryan
Hello All,
Sad Ken wrote:
The "Tom" you're referring to is Tom Edwards.
After leaving Thames, I believe he went to the States. During
this point in his life, he was an alcoholic.
The last I heard of him was that he was on a BBC radio station
in Essex at the beginning of this decade.
I read about his alcoholism in one of the Sunday mags some time
ago.
As for Phillip, the surname you are looking for is "Elsmore".
He was virtually "Mr. Thames".
He was on Thames as long as I can remember Thames existing.
Since their demise, I have not heard anything of him.
Other Thames continuity people......
David Hamilton (circa73/74), Peter Marshall, Richard Skinner...
Even Sadder Gus.
Simon Tyers
What about the Central mid-80's on-screen announcers? All I can remember
is Gary Terraza (sp?) who went on to do a CITV factual programme,the
name of which currently escapes me,and was last seen/heard doing C4
announcements,around the time they showed their announcers in the studio
(an idea which Paramount Comedy take the piss out of with Phill Jupitus)
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Bods The Spod
Alex Brown dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
: Channel Three North East is dead.
: Long Live Tyne Tees.
I think Mike Neville was quite chuffed not to have to say Channel 3 North
East :)
: Bruce Gyngell's plot to get rid of ITV companies' individual identities
: finally bit the dust at 9.25 this morning, as viewers in the North-East were
: welcomed to "a new look here on Tyne Tees Television".
Anyone record this for prosperity?
: Okay, so the new idents aren't especially great, but they're a lot better
: than the ghastly C3NE ones.
Aren't great? Hmmm....
: They've brought back the
: TT
: TV
: type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
: behind it in blue. It's vaguely reminiscent of the 1970s/early 80s logo in
: yellow on blue, except the letters of the logo are sadly no longer joined up.
: It generally looks a bit cheap IMO, but then Tyne Tees hasn't really ever
: been noted for its lavish idents in the past - and who cares, it's no longer
: Channel 3 North East. The main down-side however is that they've kept the
: same awful jingle.
Yeah. I've thought for a long time that the jingle was dire. And I've
been meaning to record a copy to put on a certain web page for prosperity.
Except I forgot. Not that it really matters as they're using the same one
anyway. Boo!
To be honest I think the logo by itself is fine, its just the rather dull
moving ident thingy that's dull and boring.
: For the history of TTTV's logo, I can thoroughly recommend Andrew Paul
: Bowden's Tyne Tees Logo Page at
: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7947/tynetees.html
Eeek! I'm famous. Whatdya know... The first time I visit this ng and
someone is quoting my Urls :) Mind you, now I'll have to update the site
again...
: Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
: Alex.
I have had countless emails about the subject and I don't recall ever
having one from anyone who liked it. Indeed there was just as much hatred
to the spinny 3/Y logo that Yorkshire had.
Still Tyne Tees, its good to have you back.
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Simon Tyers
Bods The Spod wrote:
> ------ Wake Up With Bods, 6am-8am Fridays, Purple 105.4 FM, Durham ------
What a horrible thought. Still,nice to see another ukmrr'er joining the
(un)happy band on this ng.
Alex Brown
gil...@agnetha.demon.co.uk (Gillian Hardy) wrote:
>We in YTV land are still getting the occasional "welcome to Channel
>Three in the Yorkshire region" but thankfully not quite as often as
>when Gyngell was in charge.
I can't say I've heard this recently. I know someone who is a continuity
announcer for Yorkshire and TTTV, and she says that all references to
'Channel 3' have now been dropped. You may have noticed the swirly number 3's
behind the perpetually rotating YTV logo have gone.
>But as someone who spent three long years
>in the North East ...welcome back Tyne Tees.
>
>>Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
>>Alex.
>
>Nope, don't like the whole ITV '3' thing. ITV seem to try to
>reeducate the masses into calling the channel 'Channel 3' or 'ITV3'
>every five years or so, always without success.
Presumably they think that people are too stupid to be able to work out that
ITV is on button 3 on their remote control. So we look forward to Sky
renaming itself AUX/EXT :-)
>Gillian - SAVE OUR OPAL FRUITS!!!
And what about all the Kellog's cereals changing their names? 'Healthwise'
indeed!
Alex.
Alex.
Bods The Spod
Simon Tyers dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
: Bods The Spod wrote:
: > ------ Wake Up With Bods, 6am-8am Fridays, Purple 105.4 FM, Durham ------
: What a horrible thought. Still,nice to see another ukmrr'er joining the
: (un)happy band on this ng.
Are you insulting my top quality radio show?
Andrew shuts up not wanting this ng to degenerate to ukmrr levels... :O)
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Tim Stainthorpe
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, wossisname? oh, y'know, that Bods The Spod
<A.P.B...@durham.ac.uk>, uttered some gubbins:
>Simon Tyers dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
>: Bods The Spod wrote:
>: > ------ Wake Up With Bods, 6am-8am Fridays, Purple 105.4 FM, Durham ------
>: What a horrible thought. Still,nice to see another ukmrr'er joining the
>: (un)happy band on this ng.
>Are you insulting my top quality radio show?
You can be done for that you know.
>Andrew shuts up not wanting this ng to degenerate to ukmrr levels... :O)
You mis-spelled "reach the dizzying heights of excellence".
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Tim Stainthorpe
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, wossisname? oh, y'know, that Simon Tyers
<hc9...@dmu.ac.uk>, uttered some gubbins:
>What about the Central mid-80's on-screen announcers? All I can remember
>is Gary Terraza (sp?)
Ah yes, remember it well. They all sat in front of a red curtain didn't
they? Perhaps I don't remember it as well as I thought...
Gillian Hardy
>I can't say I've heard this recently. I know someone who is a continuity
>announcer for Yorkshire and TTTV, and she says that all references to
>'Channel 3' have now been dropped. You may have noticed the swirly number 3's
>behind the perpetually rotating YTV logo have gone.
And about time too. The last time I heard 'Channel 3 in the Yorkshire
region' was during the Summer. Thankfully it hasn't been heard since.
I've also noticed that, only occasionally mind, the background is now
a darker blue than the yukky turquiose - though that makes an
appearance from time to time too.
Is Redvers Kyle still at YTV by the way?
>And what about all the Kellog's cereals changing their names? 'Healthwise'
>indeed!
What cereal is this? Special K or something I haven't heard of.
Wonder how long it will be before Twix is called Raider....
Marcus Durham
In article <01bd4ba3$580de520$68e2abc3@default>, Ouroboros <Do.not.send.
[snip]
>Did they use to have a presenter that you
>actually saw, telling you what was going to be on, behind a desk, or was
>that just me?
Ah, the days of David Hamilton and his armchair. Excellent stuff.
They should bring back the on-screen announcers. UK Gold had them for 8
months last year and I thought it worked bloody well. Sadly they were
axed with the UK TV revamp. Still, we'll never see the likes of Thames
again.
--
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Ouroboros******
Sad Ken <sad...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980310013...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
: In article <01bd4ba3$580de520$68e2abc3@default>, "Ouroboros"
: <Do.not.send...@my.address.please> writes:
:
: > BTW
: >You know the old Thames Logo, Did they use to have a presenter that you
: >actually saw, telling you what was going to be on, behind a desk, or
was
: >that just me?
: I remember that happening at Christmas, Easter, etc. There were two men
who
: appeared doing that, Phillip and Tom. I can't remember their surnames.
During
: these holiday periods, they were often seen sitting not behind a desk,
but on a
: leather armchair in front of a roaring fire. Even in the dying days of
Thames,
: they had an announcer behind a desk for the overnight period.
I know, It gave a much 'friendlier' approach, something that other
channels should addopt. I'd Much rather see a nice presenter behind a desk
instead of a baloon floating about goodness knows where.
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there's some kind of misunderstanding."
Darren K Lock
You guys don't know how hard it was to get the Ancillary Teletext on TT
ready in time. We only had two day's notice to revert back to our old
designs...but hey, that's showbusiness, I guess.
Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600 - You know it makes sense, Rodney.
Bods The Spod wrote in message <6e3812$il$1...@sirius.dur.ac.uk>...
>: Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
>: Alex.
>
>I have had countless emails about the subject and I don't recall ever
>having one from anyone who liked it. Indeed there was just as much hatred
>to the spinny 3/Y logo that Yorkshire had.
>
>Still Tyne Tees, its good to have you back.
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Ouroboros****** dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
- I know, It gave a much 'friendlier' approach, something that other
- channels should addopt. I'd Much rather see a nice presenter behind a desk
- instead of a baloon floating about goodness knows where.
Even Channel 4 seem to have stopped showing their announcers :(
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Paul Ratcliffe
Gillian Hardy wrote:
>
> Is Redvers Kyle still at YTV by the way?
I wondered that as well. But judging by the way by used to drink and
smoke (allegedly) when I visited YTV 13 years ago, I would somehow doubt
it. He did have a good voice though, no doubt created in part by... yep,
all the drinking and smoking :-)
Alex Brown
gil...@agnetha.demon.co.uk (Gillian Hardy) wrote:
>>I can't say I've heard this recently. I know someone who is a continuity
>>announcer for Yorkshire and TTTV, and she says that all references to
>>'Channel 3' have now been dropped. You may have noticed the swirly number
3's
>>behind the perpetually rotating YTV logo have gone.
>
>And about time too. The last time I heard 'Channel 3 in the Yorkshire
>region' was during the Summer. Thankfully it hasn't been heard since.
>I've also noticed that, only occasionally mind, the background is now
>a darker blue than the yukky turquiose - though that makes an
>appearance from time to time too.
It's the same with the new TTTV logo. You'll find they use the darker idents
in the evening. On the previous YTV logo (the one with the charming pictures
of Yorkshire in the background), it went from a sort of creamy colour at
9.25am through to a yukky mid-blue around lunchtime to a dark-blue in the
evening, and then after News at Ten it went black with a neon 'Open 24 Hours'
sign behind the logo. Nice ;-)
>Is Redvers Kyle still at YTV by the way?
Never heard of him.
>>And what about all the Kellog's cereals changing their names? 'Healthwise'
>>indeed!
>
>What cereal is this? Special K or something I haven't heard of.
>Wonder how long it will be before Twix is called Raider....
Healthwise is the new name for Bran Flakes. Coco Pops have become Chocco
Krispies, and of course Fruit and Fibre has become Optima.
As for Twix, common sense prevailed surprisingly. Across the rest of the
world, Raiders have been renamed Twix.
Alex.
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Alex Brown
David Richards <dv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
>No. Whoever though C3NE was a good name was obviously under the
>influence at the time...
(...allegedly)
It was Bruce Gyngell. Rumours are that he wanted to officially change
Yorkshire Television to Channel 3 Yorkshire as well, but the chairman
wouldn't let it go ahead. Fine for Tyne Tees for some reason though.
Alex Brown
"Darren K Lock" <vro...@vrooom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>You guys don't know how hard it was to get the Ancillary Teletext on TT
>ready in time. We only had two day's notice to revert back to our old
>designs...but hey, that's showbusiness, I guess.
>
>Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600 - You know it makes sense, Rodney.
Yes, and the Radio Times obviously weren't told in time. They've still got
Channel 3 North East down for next week.
Paul Shields
Previously, in uk.media.tv.misc:
Paul Ratcliffe said:
>Gillian Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Is Redvers Kyle still at YTV by the way?
>
>I wondered that as well. But judging by the way by used to drink and
>smoke (allegedly) when I visited YTV 13 years ago, I would somehow doubt
>it. He did have a good voice though, no doubt created in part by... yep,
>all the drinking and smoking :-)
He was always very helpful towards younger chaps needing a start so I
believe.
I don't think he does continuity any more at YTV as I haven't heard
him for years. The last thing I heard him on was a Yorkshire Water ad
back in the 96 drought. I walked past him in the corridor at work when
he recorded that - it is very strange to hear a voice you've known for
years on an unfamiliar face.
Paul
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Ouroboros
BTS said...
: Ouroboros****** dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
: - I know, It gave a much 'friendlier' approach, something that other
: - channels should addopt. I'd Much rather see a nice presenter behind a
desk
: - instead of a baloon floating about goodness knows where.
:
: Even Channel 4 seem to have stopped showing their announcers :(
Oh yes, I remember that. Now and again they'd show what they looked
like... They should reintroduce that, IMHO.
Ouroboros - Who likes the circles, but also likes the origional C4 Logo.
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"What?!"
"Ugly naked guy got a thigh-master!"
"Ewwwwwwwwwwww!"
Gillian Hardy
>Healthwise is the new name for Bran Flakes.
Really!!??! What a totally crap name for Bran Flakes.
<ObTV> I don't ever remember seeing continuity announcers on YTV.
Perhaps it's something we were spared.
MidsMedia
Central TV Announcers from the Eighties........
Mike Prince
Gary Terzza
Simon Vance
Helen Lloyd
Linda Cunningham
Jo Wheeler
Stewart White
Su Evan
Avril Carson
Verity Martindill
Evadne Fisher
errrrrrr........anymore?
Sad Ken
In article <889575255.7340.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, "Darren K
Lock" <vro...@vrooom.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600
On Carlton/LWT's ancillary teletext, there's a test page on 699. So when on
that page, if one then presses their red fastext button, it will then go
looking for the seemingly impossible page 6AA. It might take a few goes round
to get there, but when it does....it's largely incomprehensible. Anyone seen it
before or knows what it all means?
Sad Ken
Paul Speller
Sad Ken wrote:
> the seemingly impossible page 6AA.
Doesn't sound at all impossible to those of us who like to partcipate in Bamber
Boozler's top quality quiz on Teletext, "Bamboozle". That uses loads of pages with
letters in their 'numbers'.
Paul
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Simon Tyers
David Richards wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 Simon Tyers wrote;
> >C4
> >announcements,around the time they showed their announcers in the studio
> >(an idea which Paramount Comedy take the piss out of with Phill Jupitus)
> I think Phil Jupitus is actually funny - whereas the 'Paramount announcer'
> is just unamusing. Either way the Paramount announcements seem pre-
> recorded adn occasionally played out in the wrong slot.
Yes,it's really Phill Jupitus (they occasionally do in-studio
pictures,hence my original C4 reference)
Simon Tyers
Tim Stainthorpe wrote:
> >Andrew shuts up not wanting this ng to degenerate to ukmrr levels... :O)
>
> You mis-spelled "reach the dizzying heights of excellence".
This is no ukmrr *I* know... :)
Hywel Williams
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:28:47 GMT,there was a deathly silence as
mi...@SEE.SIG.FOR.EMAIL (Mike Henry) uttered these imortal words:
>It sounds like the PDC status page. Check the times and dates shown on
>the page - they should be of the programme currently being broadcast.
>Central have one, or used to (AFAIR) - despite the fact that they do NOT
>broadcast PDC. Channel 4 also have one on 4-Tel page 3AA (get their from
>399).
Yes - it't the status PDC page - it seems that most if not all
Intelfax run ancillary services have this page even if they're not
using PDC at the moment. The page also includes other information
which is specific to the broadcaster/teletext service I presume.
The PDC bit is the one in the middle which has 4 rows of information,
which if there is an active PDC service would tell you what each of
thye 4 streams of PDC signals are doing at the time. Some stations
don't carry a PDC service but do broadcast a PDC signal telling the
video recorder to use it's timer all the time. I presume this is so
that the VCR will be ready for proper PDC when(if) it comes. For more
details of this and anything else you wanted to know about PDC check
out http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~bandc/a.wiseman/625/pdc.htm
Channel 4 has an equivalant page on 399RED and I think Channel 5 has
one somewhere too but I watch C5 so infrequently that I'm not sure :-)
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BBC Research & Development
****** These opinions are mine and not Auntie's ******
Bods The Spod
Alex Brown dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
- David Richards <dv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
- >>Incidentally did ANYONE like the Channel 3 North East concept?
- >No. Whoever though C3NE was a good name was obviously under the
- >influence at the time...
- (...allegedly)
- It was Bruce Gyngell. Rumours are that he wanted to officially change
- Yorkshire Television to Channel 3 Yorkshire as well, but the chairman
- wouldn't let it go ahead. Fine for Tyne Tees for some reason though.
Indeed. The change was axed for Yorkshire because it would have 'led to
the loss of idnetity for Yorkshire' though why it was okay to screw up
Tyne Tees is anyones guess.
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In article <XtDxkXAp...@dv-8.demon.co.uk>, David Richards <dv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> said:
>>(an idea which Paramount Comedy take the piss out of with Phill Jupitus)
> Is that really Phil Jupitus? I've often thought it sounded a bit like him, but
> I think Phil Jupitus is actually funny - whereas the 'Paramount announcer'
> is just unamusing. Either way the Paramount announcements seem pre-
> recorded adn occasionally played out in the wrong slot.
It is indeed the rotund one. If you watch at 3:56 (just before they go
off-air), there's usually an in-vision gag with him (one of which features
his naked arse), followed by the best test-card on TV today!
Rod.
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Darren Meldrum
Sad Ken wrote on 12 Mar 1998 00:27:18 GMT:
>On Carlton/LWT's ancillary teletext, there's a test page on 699. So when on
>that page, if one then presses their red fastext button, it will then go
>looking for the seemingly impossible page 6AA. It might take a few goes round
>to get there, but when it does....it's largely incomprehensible. Anyone seen it
>before or knows what it all means?
Teletext is actually a hexadecimal system so the letters A to F are
perfectly valid. In fact page numbers run from 100 to 8FF. However due to
the fact that most remote controls only have ten digits on them, the hex
pages are not used very often, and usually only in conjunction to fasttext
keys.
6AA on ITV and 3AA on CH4 and 5AA on Channel 5 are all teletext system /
PDC status pages. They follow a common format (and page number) because
they all use equipment supplied by Intelfax. It basically tells you when
the teletext encoder was last rebooted, recent commands sent and if PDC
enabled, details of the current PDC codes being transmitted. Watch the 6AA
on Carlton on Friday from 5.10pm and you will see the conversion of the
service from Carlton Plus to LWT 600 Plus.
Other secret pages not widely advertised are 3BB on Channel 4 and 379 on
ITV.
The BBC used to have a status page in the 500s but that was removed in Oct
96.
Samples of these pages can be found in the "Teletext Then and Now" section
of my web pages.
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Darren K Lock
I know what it means...
Sad Ken wrote in message <19980312002...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>In article <889575255.7340.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, "Darren K
>Lock" <vro...@vrooom.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>>Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600
>
>On Carlton/LWT's ancillary teletext, there's a test page on 699. So when on
>that page, if one then presses their red fastext button, it will then go
>looking for the seemingly impossible page 6AA. It might take a few goes
round
>to get there, but when it does....it's largely incomprehensible. Anyone
seen it
>before or knows what it all means?
>
>Sad Ken
>
>
Ouroboros
: In article <889575255.7340.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, "Darren
K
: Lock" <vro...@vrooom.demon.co.uk> writes:
:
: >Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600
:
: On Carlton/LWT's ancillary teletext, there's a test page on 699. So when
on
: that page, if one then presses their red fastext button, it will then go
: looking for the seemingly impossible page 6AA. It might take a few goes
round
: to get there, but when it does....it's largely incomprehensible. Anyone
seen it
: before or knows what it all means?
Teletext is actually Hexadecimal (I.E aswell as the pages being numbered
using 0-9 i.e 698, 699, they have the A-F digits aswell so it can go up to
699, 69A, 69B and so on, including 6AA all the way up to 6FF) This means
there are a few pages containing hidden text that are used. Inthiscase
it's PDC info, and not of very much interest.
Can you actually get handsets that have the A-F chrs on them?
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Ouroboros
Darren Meldrum <darren...@meldrum.co.uk> wrote in article
<351136fb...@news.meldrum.co.uk>...
: Sad Ken wrote on 12 Mar 1998 00:27:18 GMT:
:
: >On Carlton/LWT's ancillary teletext, there's a test page on 699. So
when on
: >that page, if one then presses their red fastext button, it will then
go
: >looking for the seemingly impossible page 6AA. It might take a few goes
round
: >to get there, but when it does....it's largely incomprehensible. Anyone
seen it
: >before or knows what it all means?
:
: perfectly valid. In fact page numbers run from 100 to 8FF. However due
to
: the fact that most remote controls only have ten digits on them, the hex
: pages are not used very often, and usually only in conjunction to
fasttext
: keys.
How come it only goes up to 8FF? why not up to FFF then? and for that
matter why not 000 - 0FF?
Hywel Williams
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:59:50 GMT,there was a deathly silence as
mi...@SEE.SIG.FOR.EMAIL (Mike Henry) uttered these imortal words:
>On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:04:39 GMT, hy...@REMOVETHIS.pobox.co.uk (Hywel
>Williams) wrote:
>
>>Some stations
>>don't carry a PDC service but do broadcast a PDC signal telling the
>>video recorder to use it's timer all the time. I presume this is so
>>that the VCR will be ready for proper PDC when(if) it comes.
>
>Hang on a minute - I don't like the look of that "if"!
>
The "if" is there because at least one ITV company has decreed in the
past that PDC is "obsolete", to be superceded by signalling in digital
TV when it arrives. I won't name the company but if you take a good
look at the letters from the various companies listed on Andrew
Wiseman's PDC pages you'll soon guess which TV companies are unlikely
to implement PDC in the near future...
Darren Meldrum
Ouroboros wrote on 12 Mar 1998 23:42:01 GMT:
>How come it only goes up to 8FF? why not up to FFF then? and for that
>matter why not 000 - 0FF?
There are only three binary bits available for the magazine number, which
would allow 0 to 7 or 1 to 8. The latter appears to have been chosen
universally.
The other five bits in that byte are use to identify which row (0 to 24 or
more) is being transmitted.
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Simon Tyers
Rod Begbie wrote:
> It is indeed the rotund one. If you watch at 3:56 (just before they go
> off-air), there's usually an in-vision gag with him (one of which features
> his naked arse), followed by the best test-card on TV today!
Ah,the chicken and the highway. Do the cars still flash their lights?
Paul Burgin
In article <35092A...@dmu.ac.uk> Simon Tyers <hc9...@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
>Ah,the chicken and the highway. Do the cars still flash their lights?
And honk their horns, yes!
P.
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Darren Meldrum
Mike Henry wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:09 GMT:
>On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:33:53 GMT, darren...@meldrum.co.uk (Darren
>Meldrum) wrote:
>>Other secret pages not widely advertised are 3BB on Channel 4 and 379 on
>>ITV.
>
>How do you get to 3BB on C4? Ta!
Fasttext from 399 takes you to 3AA, 3BB, 3AE and 3AF.
3AA is the teletext/PDC status page
3BB is yet another PDC status page
3AE is a datacast service, listing names and addresses
3AF is a load of digits, with occasional phone numbers.
Marcus Durham
In article <351136fb...@news.meldrum.co.uk>, Darren Meldrum
<darren...@meldrum.co.uk> cheerily wrote:
[snip]
>Other secret pages not widely advertised are 3BB on Channel 4 and 379 on
>ITV.
What does it mean though? It's some sort of graph.
--
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Darren Meldrum
Marcus Durham wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:30:30 +0000:
>What does it mean though? It's some sort of graph.
It mainly about the number of updates queued to send to each of the
regional teletext computers.
Ouroboros
: Ouroboros wrote on 12 Mar 1998 23:42:01 GMT:
:
: >How come it only goes up to 8FF? why not up to FFF then? and for that
: >matter why not 000 - 0FF?
:
: There are only three binary bits available for the magazine number,
which
: would allow 0 to 7 or 1 to 8. The latter appears to have been chosen
: universally.
:
: The other five bits in that byte are use to identify which row (0 to 24
or
: more) is being transmitted.
Or more? can you have more then? 's interesting. Or is that just for
fastext?
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Ouroboros
: Mike Henry wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:09 GMT:: >>Other secret pages not widely advertised are 3BB on Channel 4 and 379
on
: >>ITV.
: >
: >How do you get to 3BB on C4? Ta!
:
: Fasttext from 399 takes you to 3AA, 3BB, 3AE and 3AF.
:
: 3AA is the teletext/PDC status page
: 3BB is yet another PDC status page
: 3AE is a datacast service, listing names and addresses
: 3AF is a load of digits, with occasional phone numbers.
Phone numbers? That doesn't sound V. innocent.
Darren Meldrum
Ouroboros wrote on 13 Mar 1998 23:13:32 GMT:
>Or more? can you have more then? 's interesting. Or is that just for
>fastext?
Fasttext, PDC, Channel identification, commercial datacasting, there are
all sorts of extras transmitted on teletext.
Try reading
http://swan.ml.org/~robin/pdc/teletext.html
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~bandc/a.wiseman/625/pdc.htm
There was a nice summary at
http://freespace.virgin.net/g.macgregor/teletext.htm
but it has disappeared now. Anyone know where it went?
Rob Hardy
Darren Meldrum wrote in message <3511e399...@news.meldrum.co.uk>...
>There was a nice summary at
>http://freespace.virgin.net/g.macgregor/teletext.htm
>but it has disappeared now. Anyone know where it went?
Tis at http://gkm.home.ml.org/teletext.htm (as linked to from
http://teletext.home.ml.org/links.html :)
http://www.databroadcasting.co.uk/ also has some interesting stuff.
Rob.
Jerome O'Donohoe
I felt a huge disturbance in the force when On Fri, 13 Mar 1998
12:45:13 +0000, Simon Tyers <hc9...@dmu.ac.uk> wrote:
>Rod Begbie wrote:
>
>> It is indeed the rotund one. If you watch at 3:56 (just before they go
>> off-air), there's usually an in-vision gag with him (one of which features
>> his naked arse), followed by the best test-card on TV today!
>
>Ah,the chicken and the highway. Do the cars still flash their lights?
Depends if the guys in the gallery at Nickelodeon press "play" on the
Tektronix profile server that the "chicken" as it's referred to, comes
from when they go home at 7pm. Otherwise the transmission guys have
to run upstairs to set it off!
<talkback> "Oi! Can you put the chicken up? Is anybody still there?
</talkback>
Cheers!
Jerome
Jerome O'Donohoe,Dubbing Mixer, Digital Sound Editor blah blah
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Ouroboros
: Ouroboros wrote on 13 Mar 1998 23:13:32 GMT:
:
: >Or more? can you have more then? 's interesting. Or is that just for
: >fastext?
:
: Fasttext, PDC, Channel identification, commercial datacasting, there are
: all sorts of extras transmitted on teletext.
:
: Try reading
:
: http://swan.ml.org/~robin/pdc/teletext.html
: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~bandc/a.wiseman/625/pdc.htm
: There was a nice summary at
: http://freespace.virgin.net/g.macgregor/teletext.htm
: but it has disappeared now. Anyone know where it went?
Thanx, for the URLS. Liked your website BTW V. interesting, the bits about
oracle, teletext etc.
Jonathan Sanderson
Alex Brown <ICS...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
> They've brought back the
> TT
> TV
> type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
You'll be pleased to know that, thanks to Granada, the giant gold
plastic spinning Yorkshire logo has disappeared from the Leeds TV Centre
foyer, too.
Shame, really. It always made me chuckle. I kept suggesting that they
sell tiny mantlepiece versions in the gift shop, but there we are.
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'If I had more time, I would have written you a shorter letter' (Pascal)
Alex Brown
jona...@quern.demon.co.uk (Jonathan Sanderson) wrote:
>Alex Brown <ICS...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> They've brought back the
>> TT
>> TV
>> type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
>
>You'll be pleased to know that, thanks to Granada, the giant gold
>plastic spinning Yorkshire logo has disappeared from the Leeds TV Centre
>foyer, too.
Does this mean that it's about to disappear from our TV screens as well?
I hope so - it still makes me seasick :-/
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Jonathan Sanderson dribbled some goo into uk.media.tv.misc...
- Alex Brown <ICS...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
- > They've brought back the
- > TT
- > TV
- > type logo, now in gold with the north-east coastline just about visible
- You'll be pleased to know that, thanks to Granada, the giant gold
- plastic spinning Yorkshire logo has disappeared from the Leeds TV Centre
- foyer, too.
<Apologies for naff post>
LOL!
- Shame, really. It always made me chuckle. I kept suggesting that they
- sell tiny mantlepiece versions in the gift shop, but there we are.
Well I'd buy one...
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In article <GM7s2jAG...@zenn.demon.co.uk>, Marcus Durham
<Mar...@zenn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> In article <351136fb...@news.meldrum.co.uk>, Darren Meldrum
> <darren...@meldrum.co.uk> cheerily wrote:
> [snip]
> >ITV.
>
> What does it mean though? It's some sort of graph.
Could be something to do with the regions or txs.
Potentially rather interesting if I knew what it is was!
Tim.
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/tim.m
You haven't got anything better to do.
Andrew Wiseman
Darren K Lock wrote:
>
> You guys don't know how hard it was to get the Ancillary Teletext on
> TT ready in time. We only had two day's notice to revert back to our
> old designs...but hey, that's showbusiness, I guess.
>
> Tyne Tees Ancillary Teletext p600 - You know it makes sense, Rodney.
So how long before http://www.intelfax.co.uk gets updated to reflect the
change?
For those who haven't seen the new TTTV logo, the ITV website at
http://www.itv.co.uk are proudly showing it off. Just go to "Your ITV
Region" and choose Tyne Tees to see it. Pity, they didn't change the
text, which still talks about Tyne Tees being relaunched as Channel 3
North East.
Andrew
Andrew Wiseman
Talking about ancillary teletext page 6AA and the strange numbers
thereon, Darren K Lock wrote:
>
> I know what it means...
Then tell us :-)
Meanwhile, I have a harder one for you...
How come the Intelfax web site http://www.intelfax.co.uk lists "5 Text"
as one of its teletext services? I thought "5 Text" was produced by "Sky
5 Text" who bid £1.5m for the privilege.
Andrew
Robert Hampton
In article <351D018A...@base.org>, Andrew Wiseman <6...@base.org>
wrote:
>
> How come the Intelfax web site http://www.intelfax.co.uk lists "5 Text"
> as one of its teletext services? I thought "5 Text" was produced by "Sky
> 5 Text" who bid £1.5m for the privilege.
>
> Andrew
Intelfax do the Channel 5 ancillary service on pages 500+, in much the same
way as they do 4-Tel for Channel 4.
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Andrew Wiseman
Robert Hampton wrote:
>
> Intelfax do the Channel 5 ancillary service on pages 500+, in much the same
> way as they do 4-Tel for Channel 4.
Are you sure?
You see, if Intelfax do the ancillary text service on C5 and Sky5Text do
the main service, how come they look the same?
Or put another way, if you want the ancillary and main text services to
have the same look and feel, why bother paying two different companies
to do it?
Andrew
Robert Hampton
In article <351FB7CF...@base.org>, Andrew Wiseman <6...@base.org>
wrote:
> You see, if Intelfax do the ancillary text service on C5 and Sky5Text do
> the main service, how come they look the same?
It's certainly changed since the last time I looked at it. I'm positive
Intelfax used to do it.
Darren Meldrum
Andrew Wiseman wrote on Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:18:39 +0100:
>Are you sure?
>You see, if Intelfax do the ancillary text service on C5 and Sky5Text do
>the main service, how come they look the same?
>Or put another way, if you want the ancillary and main text services to
>have the same look and feel, why bother paying two different companies
>to do it?
Channel 5 pay <whoever> to do their Ancillary Teletext P500.
Sky5Text pay the ITC for permission to broadcast their teletext service, it
needn't have anything to do with Channel 5, in the same way that Teletext
Ltd have nothing to do with ITV or Channel 4.
I certainly didn't see any announcement that Intelfax were running C5 Text,
although it has been long known that they are using their equipment. On the
other hand I find it hard to believe that C5 would be doing it themselves.
Darren K Lock
D'OH!
Intelfax does do C5 Ancillary Text...
SkyText wants everything to look the same now...they like a more uniform
approach.
May we never speak about this ever again...
Robert Hampton wrote in message ...
>In article <351FB7CF...@base.org>, Andrew Wiseman <6...@base.org>
>wrote:
>> You see, if Intelfax do the ancillary text service on C5 and Sky5Text do
>> the main service, how come they look the same?
>